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Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: danuputra on 04:48 AM - 12/30/13
Just 1 simple question when is it ready ??
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Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 05:03 AM - 12/30/13
Tip: OBsIV knows the answer. :D
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Post by: manaus on 06:45 AM - 12/30/13
XIM 4 will be ready when it is ready...it must be or should be "state of art" product.
I am really worry about the beta...I have XimEdge and would like to use it till Xim4 is out.  ;)
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Post by: stason40 on 06:59 AM - 12/30/13
I am every day, check this forum is beta XIM4 or not. ;)
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Post by: manaus on 07:06 AM - 12/30/13
I do it, at least, twice a day

Beta for XimEdge Pleeeeease  ;D :P
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Post by: mindworm22 on 08:18 AM - 12/30/13
Sunday
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Post by: budmonster on 08:29 AM - 12/30/13
I think more like Julember
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Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 08:33 AM - 12/30/13
February 29th
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Post by: Arqos on 08:38 AM - 12/30/13
people are starting to foam at the mouth. can we please just get the beta at its current state... we can't wait any longer.
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Post by: bigmasta on 08:39 AM - 12/30/13
1 Day after Armageddon
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Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 09:13 AM - 12/30/13
Free beer tomorrow, free beta tomorrow
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Post by: manaus on 09:54 AM - 12/30/13
I see...the people that are "against" the beta, are the ones that play PS?!
Why is that?  ::) :P
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Post by: Od1n on 09:59 AM - 12/30/13
Id would say: When its done
;)
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Post by: willthetech on 10:03 AM - 12/30/13
Just 1 simple question when is it ready ??

I considered the idea to see if there any oracles still alive, to see if I can get the answer…but most likely she or he will just tell me how the world is going to end and when, which I am not interested on… and I’ll ask for my money back.
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Post by: mist4fun on 10:37 AM - 12/30/13
Current goal is Q1 2014.
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Post by: damstr on 11:35 AM - 12/30/13
I'm excited for the XIM4 but more excited for the beta. That is what will hold people over till XIM4.

Come out just tell us what BT4 adapter works so I can go buy it already!
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Post by: lukemedway_uk on 01:11 PM - 12/30/13
Lol I am looking forward to the beta as well, the sticks are driving me crazyyyyy!!
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Post by: The Pfhor on 01:19 PM - 12/30/13
I see...the people that are "against" the beta, are the ones that play PS?!
Why is that?  ::) :P

C'mon! No one here is "against" the beta. We all want it to be done ASAP even if there is not PS4 support at the beginning. Why? Well for me personally, I only have a PS4 at the moment so I would like it out so the powers that be can focus on the PS4 and making the beta and XIM4 work on that system. Which I also believe, needs to be the priority and main focus after the initial beta release (PS4 support that is).
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 02:18 PM - 12/30/13
Come out just tell us what BT4 adapter works so I can go buy it already!

This is kind of bugging me as well.  The beta is due to be out next week.  I don't understand why we haven't heard which type of BT adapters work.  If they are still testing different types that is great........just tell us which ones they know work. 

Some people will have to order one as they may not have a store nearby that carries them.  I don't understand why this is such a big secret.  It's going to be frustrating if I have to order one and wait another 5 days for it to come in. :-\  Not that I would have any choice tho.......lol.
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Post by: Arqos on 04:08 PM - 12/30/13
Come out just tell us what BT4 adapter works so I can go buy it already!

This is kind of bugging me as well.  The beta is due to be out next week.  I don't understand why we haven't heard which type of BT adapters work.  If they are still testing different types that is great........just tell us which ones they know work. 

Some people will have to order one as they may not have a store nearby that carries them.  I don't understand why this is such a big secret.  It's going to be frustrating if I have to order one and wait another 5 days for it to come in. :-\  Not that I would have any choice tho.......lol.

Yep. seems like they are having fun with the Alpha and dont want to share... We should have gotten this info by now.
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Post by: manaus on 05:22 PM - 12/30/13
Agree!
 :o 8)

Come out just tell us what BT4 adapter works so I can go buy it already!

This is kind of bugging me as well.  The beta is due to be out next week.  I don't understand why we haven't heard which type of BT adapters work.  If they are still testing different types that is great........just tell us which ones they know work. 

Some people will have to order one as they may not have a store nearby that carries them.  I don't understand why this is such a big secret.  It's going to be frustrating if I have to order one and wait another 5 days for it to come in. :-\  Not that I would have any choice tho.......lol.

Yep. seems like they are having fun with the Alpha and dont want to share... We should have gotten this info by now.
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Post by: mcdonamw on 05:47 PM - 12/30/13
SMH... typical.  Given an inch, demand a mile.  I'd like to get my BT adapter info just like everyone else but until they are ready to release that information... chill out.  "We should have that info by now"... wow.  Really?
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 06:09 PM - 12/30/13
SMH... typical.  Given an inch, demand a mile.  I'd like to get my BT adapter info just like everyone else but until they are ready to release that information... chill out.  "We should have that info by now"... wow.  Really?

We have no choice but to wait so it is what it is. 8)   However, it's not like we're asking for The Colonels (KFC for you younger folks) secret recipe here......lol.  There might be a perfectly good explanation why the info. is not being released.  It would be nice to know either way.
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Post by: mindworm22 on 06:36 PM - 12/30/13
Current goal is Q1 2014.

Which, to be clear, means my statement of "Sunday" could still be true.  I just didn't say which one, of course...

 =)
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Post by: danuputra on 01:29 AM - 12/31/13
Id would say: When its done
;)

hahaha any estimate date your highnest od1n ;D ??
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Post by: CameronMC on 02:29 AM - 12/31/13
XIM BETA Winter 2015.
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Post by: JayinThaz on 02:56 AM - 12/31/13
XIM BETA Winter 2015.
if that is what it takes then so be it.Crazy thing i been using my controller so much on the ps4 I go Positive now.Just them long distance shots i been my mouse!
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Post by: CameronMC on 03:41 AM - 12/31/13
Same here JayinThaz, I've been getting my overall K/D up to around 2.0 from 0.8 when I first got the console which is good for me using the PAD. (Battlefield 4)

But still long distance is where I fail :(
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Post by: izzy on 04:36 AM - 12/31/13
Come out just tell us what BT4 adapter works so I can go buy it already!

This is kind of bugging me as well.  The beta is due to be out next week.  I don't understand why we haven't heard which type of BT adapters work.  If they are still testing different types that is great........just tell us which ones they know work. 

Some people will have to order one as they may not have a store nearby that carries them.  I don't understand why this is such a big secret.  It's going to be frustrating if I have to order one and wait another 5 days for it to come in. :-\  Not that I would have any choice tho.......lol.

Yep. seems like they are having fun with the Alpha and dont want to share... We should have gotten this info by now.

Alpha aren't having any fun yet.
The exact bluetooth adapter required hasn't been decided yet

Hey everyone, just an update, we have picked a few BT adapters from Amazon and they'll be here on Thursday (couldn't get them sooner because of New Years). If they check out I'll send out the recommendations. Hopefully by then the last bugs will be fixed and we can get drops out to the Alpha Testers. After that, general Beta.
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Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 08:18 AM - 12/31/13
Getting excited!!!! I can actually pull the xbone back out of storage.
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Post by: joecheve on 08:27 AM - 12/31/13
XIM BETA Winter 2015.
if that is what it takes then so be it.Crazy thing i been using my controller so much on the ps4 I go Positive now.Just them long distance shots i been my mouse!


Me too!  I do well in TDM and ok in others.  Forget sniping or long shots though....
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Post by: abc123 on 09:46 AM - 12/31/13
is this thing done yet? I mean i've been patient for like 2 weeks or something...that's years in Sesame street time
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Post by: invalidsyntax on 05:57 PM - 12/31/13
Do you guys have a sign up for like the Edge that will tell me when its available for purchase? I'm missing my XIM on the PS4 :-(
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Post by: Leftfieldgenecide on 05:59 PM - 12/31/13
Do you guys have a sign up for like the Edge that will tell me when its available for purchase? I'm missing my XIM on the PS4 :-(

Time will tell dear fellow, time will tell.
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Post by: rezneffix on 06:07 PM - 12/31/13
Do you guys have a sign up for like the Edge that will tell me when its available for purchase? I'm missing my XIM on the PS4 :-(

Hey the xim4 for the PS4 may not be available right away. However the PS4 owners on this forum are very optimistic that all the issues will be sorted out and I am sure we will get some sort of an update soon after or at the same time as the BETA release.
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Post by: Od1n on 12:20 PM - 01/01/14
Do you guys have a sign up for like the Edge that will tell me when its available for purchase? I'm missing my XIM on the PS4 :-(

yes, you can subscribe to the xim development blog
as soon as theres a big announcement, such as xim for PS4 aka the xim4 release itself this topic will get an update
an email then will be sent to you

development blog: http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=3819.0
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Post by: KingAfrica on 02:02 PM - 01/03/14
If you can't wait...Try and build a Wc11cE mod, it's not too difficult just time consuming, mine works flawlessly with the PS4 and Edge.
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Post by: Matteo91to on 02:18 PM - 01/03/14
Im sad, i want the xim4. And i don' t wanna purchase CronusMax. Uff, im soo sad. Can u tell if the project going well??? Im really exited.
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Post by: abc123 on 02:54 PM - 01/03/14
mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.
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Post by: gunit2004 on 05:44 PM - 01/03/14
mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.

Any indication on who the Alpha testers are or how they are chosen?
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 05:49 PM - 01/03/14
Any indication on who the Alpha testers are or how they are chosen?

That will be the Xim team and a few other people that are very close to them I imagine. 
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Post by: abc123 on 12:03 AM - 01/04/14
That will be the Xim team and a few other people that are very close to them I imagine. 

i agree
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Post by: PS3_UK on 07:19 AM - 01/04/14
If you can't wait...Try and build a Wc11cE mod, it's not too difficult just time consuming, mine works flawlessly with the PS4 and Edge.

I think 'flawlessly' might be an exaggeration because there's no smart translator support. :(
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Post by: litnin on 08:29 AM - 01/04/14
mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.

General availability for what? The xim4 final release or the beta?
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Post by: KingAfrica on 10:07 AM - 01/04/14
If you can't wait...Try and build a Wc11cE mod, it's not too difficult just time consuming, mine works flawlessly with the PS4 and Edge.

I think 'flawlessly' might be an exaggeration because there's no smart translator support. :(

I'm using the ST for Ghosts, seems spot on to me. After setting up my mouse ballistics curve it feels great, if it didn't I wouldn't waste my time playing. The mod is a temporary tool so I can at least use my PS4 with a M/K configuration until perfection arrives ;)
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 10:53 AM - 01/04/14
mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.

General availability for what? The xim4 final release or the beta?

For the beta.  :)
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Post by: Doom Wad on 12:44 PM - 01/04/14
I hope the final product is soon after the beta. I tried playing CoDG with the xb1 controller, and my K/D ratio is taking a pounding. Godspeed, developers!
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Post by: litnin on 01:04 PM - 01/04/14
mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.

General availability for what? The xim4 final release or the beta?

For the beta.  :)

So we're still talking over a week for the beta release?
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 01:57 PM - 01/04/14
So we're still talking over a week for the beta release?

Yeah it will most likely be 2-3 weeks before the general public sees the beta.
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Post by: KingAfrica on 03:54 PM - 01/04/14
If you can't wait...Try and build a Wc11cE mod, it's not too difficult just time consuming, mine works flawlessly with the PS4 and Edge.

I think 'flawlessly' might be an exaggeration because there's no smart translator support. :(

I'm using the ST for Ghosts, seems spot on to me. After setting up my mouse ballistics curve it feels great, if it didn't I wouldn't waste my time playing. The mod is a temporary tool so I can at least use my PS4 with a M/K configuration until perfection arrives ;)

It's not quite 100% as it's the PS3 config I'm using. On ADS the lack of PS4 ST is apparent but still highly playable
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Post by: sputnik on 10:26 PM - 01/04/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x3S0xS2hdi4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x3S0xS2hdi4)
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Post by: Calcifer on 09:07 AM - 01/05/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x3S0xS2hdi4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x3S0xS2hdi4)
I would be the kid to keep smelling the xim4 lol
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Post by: xRickyTick on 04:51 AM - 01/06/14
I've been lurking for a while now... went to order the edge and it had just sold out. Can't wait to try this setup, I'm "pretty good" with a controller but excited to go to this setup! Hope it comes sooner than later!!! The new product looks awesome.
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Post by: Atlasprime on 11:41 AM - 01/06/14
I am typically a patient person but perhaps not? Really really really thought a beta wouldve been out by now. I feel bad for you guys! Idk what i would do if I still had to use the controller on X1.
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Post by: NinjaX2 on 01:06 PM - 01/06/14
hey look another one of these threads.

the answer is simple really...sit there...clasp your hands together....and wait.

Making posts doesnt really do anything except clutter the forums. It isnt going to make it come any faster.

OBsIV is pretty good about making announcements when it is time to make the announcement.

He wont give yo uthe details generally because you people who boviously do not get it would hold him to that forever.

If he said...saturday..and it wasnt out saturday...you would burn him at the stake.

So rather than set "possible dates" he will probably make the announcement when its time to release it.

Until then all of this is just nonsense.
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Post by: abc123 on 01:14 PM - 01/06/14
hey look another one of these threads.

the answer is simple really...sit there...clasp your hands together....and wait.

Making posts doesnt really do anything except clutter the forums. It isnt going to make it come any faster.

OBsIV is pretty good about making announcements when it is time to make the announcement.

He wont give yo uthe details generally because you people who boviously do not get it would hold him to that forever.

If he said...saturday..and it wasnt out saturday...you would burn him at the stake.

So rather than set "possible dates" he will probably make the announcement when its time to release it.

Until then all of this is just nonsense.

mist starts testing it on mid-next week and start building X1 STs for CoDG and BF4. Assuming that goes well, then the Alpha testers will have it for a week. If that goes well, then, general availability.

is what he has given us which is all we will get :)
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Post by: flst81 on 08:56 PM - 01/08/14
If he said...saturday..and it wasnt out saturday...you would burn him at the stake.

completely agree. Just the mention of Mist getting it by midweek has most foaming at the mouth and expecting the beta out like yesterday and then wanting final product out within a day or two after that. People people people cant rush a great product to market. Let us all be patient and be happy and grateful when it drops.
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Post by: flst81 on 09:07 PM - 01/08/14
So its been a few minutes since my last post and I was wondering if the beta is out yet? J/k

Just being an @#$% sorry fellas.
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Post by: Soulo on 12:51 AM - 01/09/14
hey look another one of these threads.

the answer is simple really...sit there...clasp your hands together....and wait.

Making posts doesnt really do anything except clutter the forums. It isnt going to make it come any faster.

OBsIV is pretty good about making announcements when it is time to make the announcement.

He wont give yo uthe details generally because you people who boviously do not get it would hold him to that forever.

If he said...saturday..and it wasnt out saturday...you would burn him at the stake.

So rather than set "possible dates" he will probably make the announcement when its time to release it.

Until then all of this is just nonsense.

Well said...... 

I feel like I should save your post and just paste it in the next 5 threads that pop up over the next couple of days.  FFS you dont even need to search anymore there's 2 threads titled with the words "beta" and "xim4" in it just looking at the Discussions page and then this one as well.   Not to mention at the very top of it all WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT NEXT GEN XIM (this is an info thread) just that alone pretty much says it all to me.  Maybe the fonts need to be 10x bigger so they don't get overlooked.   
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Post by: roads on 04:05 AM - 01/09/14
Q2
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Post by: attila4go on 08:19 AM - 01/09/14
Q2

:D

I'd be personally disappointed if anything related to next-gen XIM goes past Q1-2014.
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Post by: roads on 08:44 AM - 01/09/14
Q2
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Post by: MokkNoir on 11:13 AM - 01/10/14
I have to say...

 WOW!!!!!

Just discovered the video and I'm drooling. Long, long time gamer that played my first FPS on BattleZone in the arcade where I lived a major portion of my childhood. Got into the pc era with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake...etc, etc, etc

However, I've never really been a console person since I'm a KB/M kinda guy, which is disappointing considering the attention showered on the console market as evidenced by the meager or complete lack of a PC section in gaming shops. Wasted a lot of money on trying to get a KB/M working properly in the past, but it was always a major disappointment. 

But, now I'm thinking all that is about to change. I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

Hats off to what appears to be an awesome project surrounded by an air of integrity, which is refreshing in light of so many that are only concerned with making a fast buck with their technological junk.

Now it's just a matter of waiting...and Tom Petty said it best, the waiting is the hardest part.
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Post by: shantzonpoint on 11:29 AM - 01/10/14
I have to say...

 WOW!!!!!

Just discovered the video and I'm drooling. Long, long time gamer that played my first FPS on BattleZone in the arcade where I lived a major portion of my childhood. Got into the pc era with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake...etc, etc, etc

However, I've never really been a console person since I'm a KB/M kinda guy, which is disappointing considering the attention showered on the console market as evidenced by the meager or complete lack of a PC section in gaming shops. Wasted a lot of money on trying to get a KB/M working properly in the past, but it was always a major disappointment. 

But, now I'm thinking all that is about to change. I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

Hats off to what appears to be an awesome project surrounded by an air of integrity, which is refreshing in light of so many that are only concerned with making a fast buck with their technological junk.

Now it's just a matter of waiting...and Tom Petty said it best, the waiting is the hardest part.

Welcome aboard. You'll find 80-90% of ximmers are old school pc gamers (myself included). 
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Post by: abc123 on 12:14 PM - 01/10/14
I have to say...

 WOW!!!!!

Just discovered the video and I'm drooling. Long, long time gamer that played my first FPS on BattleZone in the arcade where I lived a major portion of my childhood. Got into the pc era with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake...etc, etc, etc

However, I've never really been a console person since I'm a KB/M kinda guy, which is disappointing considering the attention showered on the console market as evidenced by the meager or complete lack of a PC section in gaming shops. Wasted a lot of money on trying to get a KB/M working properly in the past, but it was always a major disappointment. 

But, now I'm thinking all that is about to change. I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

Hats off to what appears to be an awesome project surrounded by an air of integrity, which is refreshing in light of so many that are only concerned with making a fast buck with their technological junk.

Now it's just a matter of waiting...and Tom Petty said it best, the waiting is the hardest part.

ahoy matey!
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Post by: solly on 03:41 PM - 01/10/14
I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

you sir, are a genius for not getting the cart in front of the horse. I wish I had waited for Xim4 before investing in the Xbox One early adopter program. I need very strong medicine in my system in order to play Bf4 with a controller.
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Post by: jaygax on 04:56 PM - 01/10/14
before consoles, there was delta force, half-life, counter strike, quake, unreal tournament, wolfenstein, etc...... reminiscing the 90's!

XIM is the bridge from PC to consoles where old and mature gamers like us still kicks @#$%!!!
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Post by: Soulo on 12:26 AM - 01/11/14
I have to say...

 WOW!!!!!

Just discovered the video and I'm drooling. Long, long time gamer that played my first FPS on BattleZone in the arcade where I lived a major portion of my childhood. Got into the pc era with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake...etc, etc, etc

However, I've never really been a console person since I'm a KB/M kinda guy, which is disappointing considering the attention showered on the console market as evidenced by the meager or complete lack of a PC section in gaming shops. Wasted a lot of money on trying to get a KB/M working properly in the past, but it was always a major disappointment. 

But, now I'm thinking all that is about to change. I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

Hats off to what appears to be an awesome project surrounded by an air of integrity, which is refreshing in light of so many that are only concerned with making a fast buck with their technological junk.

Now it's just a matter of waiting...and Tom Petty said it best, the waiting is the hardest part.
Hello there good sir!  Welcome and you will not be disappointed.  As mentioned there are a lot of old school pc gamers here from various backgrounds,games,teams etc etc... myself as well.
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Post by: NY Dynasty on 06:11 AM - 01/11/14
I have to say...

 WOW!!!!!

Just discovered the video and I'm drooling. Long, long time gamer that played my first FPS on BattleZone in the arcade where I lived a major portion of my childhood. Got into the pc era with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake...etc, etc, etc

However, I've never really been a console person since I'm a KB/M kinda guy, which is disappointing considering the attention showered on the console market as evidenced by the meager or complete lack of a PC section in gaming shops. Wasted a lot of money on trying to get a KB/M working properly in the past, but it was always a major disappointment. 

But, now I'm thinking all that is about to change. I'm impressed and will be slapping my $$$ down on the counter the first moment I have to get a XIM 4, which will obviously be followed by the purchase of a next gen console.

Hats off to what appears to be an awesome project surrounded by an air of integrity, which is refreshing in light of so many that are only concerned with making a fast buck with their technological junk.

Now it's just a matter of waiting...and Tom Petty said it best, the waiting is the hardest part.
Hello there good sir!  Welcome and you will not be disappointed.  As mentioned there are a lot of old school pc gamers here from various backgrounds,games,teams etc etc... myself as well.

yes welcome...I myself was never an old time PCer, I just wanted to kick butt on the 360 in bad company 2, xim3 was worth the 150 I paid!  Instead on kb, I used the PS nav, I hope they keep that setup, I'm refusing to play bf4 for the xb1 that I got for xmas from my bro in law until x4 comes out so hurry up devs!!!!  plus, i heard bf4 is trash right now so I guess I can wait...
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: danuputra on 06:17 AM - 01/14/14
HEEEELLLPPPP I NEED XIM 4 immediately...  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Seriyev on 06:26 AM - 01/24/14
I will say us in Denmark we first get the Xbone in Q4, so I hope the Xim 4 is out then ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Santigold on 06:58 AM - 01/24/14
I will say us in Denmark we first get the Xbone in Q4, so I hope the Xim 4 is out then ;)

dude Q4? Drive to nearest town in germany, walk in any electronic store and pick one up that is collecting dust already. Or just order it at any big electronic store, even amazon.de.. they will deliver to you no problem.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Boltman on 07:59 AM - 01/24/14
I'm still waiting for the rest of the sentence in the title of the thread.

It's like a cliffhanger...

When XIM4 is ready...

When XIM4 is ready what!? Yes? Go on!?

When XIM4 is ready, WHAT!? TELL ME DAMNIT!!!!??
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 11:01 AM - 01/24/14
I'm still waiting for the rest of the sentence in the title of the thread.

It's like a cliffhanger...

When XIM4 is ready...

When XIM4 is ready what!? Yes? Go on!?

When XIM4 is ready, WHAT!? TELL ME DAMNIT!!!!??
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Its just poor English. I think its supposed to be "When will the xim4 be ready for release?" Lol. Hey I could be totally wrong.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Boltman on 11:27 AM - 01/24/14
You're right rez, I was just trying to be a comedian lol.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 11:45 AM - 01/24/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 11:55 AM - 01/24/14
You're right rez, I was just trying to be a comedian lol.

Lol I know it hasnt been that long but I already feel like it was last century when we got an update on the xim4. Cant wait for thr beta release so that we can move into the pre-order phase.
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 11:55 AM - 01/24/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.

That estimate sounds pretty reasonable. Although I hope it gets released faster.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 11:58 AM - 01/24/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.

That estimate sounds pretty reasonable. Although I hope it gets released faster.

I just wish I would have waited on purchasing XBOX ONE. I figured things would be further along development wise with XIM4.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 12:23 PM - 01/24/14
I suspect once titanfall releases the boards will be crazy again asking for updates and much more if it's not released by then.  Either way we all know it's worth the wait and we will have a beta to use in the meantime.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 12:57 PM - 01/24/14
I suspect once titanfall releases the boards will be crazy again asking for updates and much more if it's not released by then.  Either way we all know it's worth the wait and we will have a beta to use in the meantime.

I wonder if Titanfall will be a $60 game since it has no single player.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 01:10 PM - 01/24/14
Its EA.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: izzy on 07:09 AM - 01/25/14
Its EA.

'Nuff said.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Od1n on 09:14 AM - 01/25/14
more importantly i hope Titanfall is playable when its released
seeing what EA did to BF4 i hope for a smooth launch for Titanfall

a new competitor to the fps genre could suffer a lot more from a rough start than an established franchise with loyal fans that can ignore bugs for a while
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: wdmyers on 11:23 AM - 01/25/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.

That's a pretty significant delay versus the original Q1 estimate.  Can anyone from the dev team chime in and provide us with an update (if any) on the launch of the finished good?  Thanks. 
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Kevin-D-Lee on 11:32 AM - 01/25/14
more importantly i hope Titanfall is playable when its released
seeing what EA did to BF4 i hope for a smooth launch for Titanfall

a new competitor to the fps genre could suffer a lot more from a rough start than an established franchise with loyal fans that can ignore bugs for a while

I wouldn't worry about it, the devs behind the game have taken steps to assure that what happened to CoD will not happen to TITANFALL. 

#1.  Respawn OWNS the rights to the TITANFALL franchsie

This means they can simply find a different publisher if EA pisses them off enough

#2.  EA has no say in the direction of the game

Respawn is in complete control

#3.  Not using EA servers

TITANFALL will be the first game to make use of the new servers MS has been setting up for the X1 network.  There should be no server issues.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: milkman on 12:23 PM - 01/25/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.

What happened to the Q1 2014 estimate?? I'll probably go suicidal If have to wait till September for the XIM4 release.....
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 12:29 PM - 01/25/14
Last official statement I recall is still Q1 of 2014.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: litnin on 12:31 PM - 01/25/14
My guess is Q3 2014 before it's actually in the store and selling to everyone on the XIM site.

That's a pretty significant delay versus the original Q1 estimate.  Can anyone from the dev team chime in and provide us with an update (if any) on the launch of the finished good?  Thanks.

Maybe an update on the beta would be more realistic.... And relevent at this point in time.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 12:43 PM - 01/25/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: JayinThaz on 12:45 PM - 01/25/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.


Take your sweet time.I know its all gonna be worth it at the end.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: wdmyers on 01:03 PM - 01/25/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

Thanks for the update.  Any progress on finalizing the mold for the housing?
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: PlaDale on 01:56 PM - 01/25/14

Its EA.

That's the same thing I say when people think titanfall will remain xbox exclusive if it's successful
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Uber Pooch on 03:20 PM - 01/25/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

But this doesn't answer the questions asked here if the Q1 ETA is still on track. I'm guessing (hopefully incorrectly) that this isn't happening. It was back in early December when beta testing was being discussed and we're not even past alpha. People are now projecting Q3 so an official timeline would be great. I just need to know if I have to waste money on a XIM4 alternative for Titanfall since I have a XIM3 and not the Edge.

Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: litnin on 03:27 PM - 01/25/14
Take your sweet time.I know its all gonna be worth it at the end.

God bless ya son  ......  Roughly translated as 'OMG will you hurry up already'.  ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: manaus on 05:12 PM - 01/25/14
So, it is the BT adapter, which is the "bad boy"...cant we do this without it?  :)

I hope this BT adapter is readily available...is it really mandatory to beta? (still didn't quite understand its necessity, sorry  ::) )

We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: haspko39 on 02:47 AM - 01/26/14
Yes, good point. Is bluetooh dungle a must? As far as I followed, XIM manager could be run with USB cable or built-in BT on PC as well, right?

So, it is the BT adapter, which is the "bad boy"...cant we do this without it?  :)

I hope this BT adapter is readily available...is it really mandatory to beta? (still didn't quite understand its necessity, sorry  ::) )

We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: PapaD on 03:12 AM - 01/26/14
Is the BT you guys are having issues with for the use of PS4??
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RML on 08:30 AM - 01/26/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

OBs if the issues are all fixable via updates and not hardware related why not let us use it as well? We understand it will be buggy, thats part of the reasoning for a beta right? It's not like you're going to scare away new customers with a few bugs. Everyone that will be participating is already a customer! We're all EDGE owners, we know XIM stands alone when it comes to quality and service. So please dont be soo gunshy! If 4E is even close give it to us. No one expects it to be perfect or even 80%, it's a BETA. We just want to stop sitting on our hands, which is silly if we can help. Now if theres still some kind of Hardware issue then color me concerned! Please let us know. You're shooting for a 1st quarter XIM 4 release, Beta time is quickly evaporating. I'm beggining to wish I'd bought a Cronus Max to use my Edge as I haven't played a game on my XB1 in over a month. I just keep holding out for your beta, like alot of other folks around here.
 
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: roads on 09:09 AM - 01/26/14
Its perfection that is the aim, not you playing asap. If that was not so there would have been a wired Edge nextgen from day one for the ONE. If you also have a PS4 build the W11ce thing. It relaxes.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 10:04 AM - 01/26/14
The amount of inpatients and misinformation is astounding.

Q3? Someone completely made that up, with no solid facts or info. Calm yo self.

Why isn't he releasing the Alpha to the Beta testers? Because there are still some significant bugs to be worked out. Each testing phase progresses to the next as the previous phase becomes stable. It's significantly easier to trouble shoot a variety of bugs when the sample group is smaller. If, for example, the alpha group was 10 people and the beta was 300, then imagine the difference in magnitude  of number of problems that would crop up.

The alpha is still buggy. Wait. The beta will have it's own share of bugs and issues. There is absolutely no reason to rush, other than a lack of patients. Rushing will cause small bugs to be big, and big bugs to be monsters.

Patients.
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: PlaDale on 10:31 AM - 01/26/14
Rook is among the outpatients, you should listen to him of you ever want to get released.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:33 AM - 01/26/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

OBs if the issues are all fixable via updates and not hardware related why not let us use it as well? We understand it will be buggy, thats part of the reasoning for a beta right? It's not like you're going to scare away new customers with a few bugs. Everyone that will be participating is already a customer! We're all EDGE owners, we know XIM stands alone when it comes to quality and service. So please dont be soo gunshy! If 4E is even close give it to us. No one expects it to be perfect or even 80%, it's a BETA. We just want to stop sitting on our hands, which is silly if we can help. Now if theres still some kind of Hardware issue then color me concerned! Please let us know. You're shooting for a 1st quarter XIM 4 release, Beta time is quickly evaporating. I'm beggining to wish I'd bought a Cronus Max to use my Edge as I haven't played a game on my XB1 in over a month. I just keep holding out for your beta, like alot of other folks around here. 

I did consider this, but, it's about what we can handle. The Beta is going to be *large*. If there are fundamental issues it's going to be impossible for us to handle all the support issues/anger/frustration while continuing to build the product. The Alpha testers need to be 100% working first -- they are almost there. We will know more tomorrow.
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 10:38 AM - 01/26/14
Rook is among the outpatients, you should listen to him of you ever want to get released.

Meh, autocorrect. Whatevs.
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Uber Pooch on 10:43 AM - 01/26/14
Rook is among the outpatients, you should listen to him of you ever want to get released.

Meh, autocorrect. Whatevs.

It auto-corrects to words that don't exist?
Title: Re: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 10:54 AM - 01/26/14
Rook is among the outpatients, you should listen to him of you ever want to get released.

Meh, autocorrect. Whatevs.

It auto-corrects to words that don't exist?

....

It's a medical term, hence Boat's little comment.

Inpatient: A patient who is admitted to a hospital or clinic for treatment that requires at least one overnight stay.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Uber Pooch on 11:08 AM - 01/26/14
I get you inpatient reference (funny btw), but couldn't understand how someone gets from impatience to inpatients and then keeps using patients instead of patience throughout the post. I kept asking myself what does the lack of sick people have to do with this discussion? If anything I think there are more people sick of this discussion instead of fewer. ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RML on 12:04 PM - 01/26/14
We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

OBs if the issues are all fixable via updates and not hardware related why not let us use it as well? We understand it will be buggy, thats part of the reasoning for a beta right? It's not like you're going to scare away new customers with a few bugs. Everyone that will be participating is already a customer! We're all EDGE owners, we know XIM stands alone when it comes to quality and service. So please dont be soo gunshy! If 4E is even close give it to us. No one expects it to be perfect or even 80%, it's a BETA. We just want to stop sitting on our hands, which is silly if we can help. Now if theres still some kind of Hardware issue then color me concerned! Please let us know. You're shooting for a 1st quarter XIM 4 release, Beta time is quickly evaporating. I'm beggining to wish I'd bought a Cronus Max to use my Edge as I haven't played a game on my XB1 in over a month. I just keep holding out for your beta, like alot of other folks around here. 

I did consider this, but, it's about what we can handle. The Beta is going to be *large*. If there are fundamental issues it's going to be impossible for us to handle all the support issues/anger/frustration while continuing to build the product. The Alpha testers need to be 100% working first -- they are almost there. We will know more tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply OBs.

I understand your concerns and none of us want the beta to become a distraction for XIM 4 developement. I'll look forward to an update tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 12:33 PM - 01/26/14
I hope this will be relevant this coming week. ;)

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Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 12:39 PM - 01/26/14
I keep saying the beta is more like a gift to us to help hold us over.  The beta has to be good becuase there are just way too many angry/unreasonable tools that are going to comment on the beta. 

Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RML on 01:39 PM - 01/26/14
I keep saying the beta is more like a gift to us to help hold us over.  The beta has to be good becuase there are just way too many angry/unreasonable tools that are going to comment on the beta.

More like a peace offering to calm the already angry/tools. But let's not go down that path on the Edge again.

But you're right, credit to XIM for trying to appease us. They surely didn't have to as we would all buy the XIM4 anyways.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: AlphaCentauri on 11:33 AM - 01/27/14
iirc the beta will be available for everyone..

Does that mean I will need to buy a new device after beta ended, as it could change some stuff? Or is that done by software updates?

greets :]
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 11:45 AM - 01/27/14
The beta is on going to be available to all edge users.  Yes you will need to buy a Xim4. The beta will not be supported once the xim4 is released.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: AlphaCentauri on 11:49 AM - 01/27/14
Oh, I though you can order the XIM 4 for beta testing, didn't know beta would only be available for the Edge. Thanks for clarifiying.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: hakwack on 01:59 PM - 01/27/14
Just 1 simple question when is it ready ??
Just 1 simple Answer When its ready !!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: bcall on 06:46 PM - 01/27/14
I have a thought that's probably crazy, but not having xim on my xbone has driven me crazy. :) Would it be possible to open an Alpha plus?  What I mean is, could you make available whatever is being used by the alpha testers right now with the express understanding that those of us brave/crazy enough to try it will absolutely keep our mouths shut if anything is amiss (I.e., we will not @#$%, moan or even post). We will, instead, keep our own private notes about any bugs/issues. Then, when you officially release the beta we will see if any of these issues still exist and only then will we inform you of them. This could be a win/win if everyone follows those rules. :)

We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

OBs if the issues are all fixable via updates and not hardware related why not let us use it as well? We understand it will be buggy, thats part of the reasoning for a beta right? It's not like you're going to scare away new customers with a few bugs. Everyone that will be participating is already a customer! We're all EDGE owners, we know XIM stands alone when it comes to quality and service. So please dont be soo gunshy! If 4E is even close give it to us. No one expects it to be perfect or even 80%, it's a BETA. We just want to stop sitting on our hands, which is silly if we can help. Now if theres still some kind of Hardware issue then color me concerned! Please let us know. You're shooting for a 1st quarter XIM 4 release, Beta time is quickly evaporating. I'm beggining to wish I'd bought a Cronus Max to use my Edge as I haven't played a game on my XB1 in over a month. I just keep holding out for your beta, like alot of other folks around here. 

I did consider this, but, it's about what we can handle. The Beta is going to be *large*. If there are fundamental issues it's going to be impossible for us to handle all the support issues/anger/frustration while continuing to build the product. The Alpha testers need to be 100% working first -- they are almost there. We will know more tomorrow.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 07:00 PM - 01/27/14
That just sounds like more work than it has to be. Let the alpha run it's course the beta will be here soon enough!
I have a thought that's probably crazy, but not having xim on my xbone has driven me crazy. :) Would it be possible to open an Alpha plus?  What I mean is, could you make available whatever is being used by the alpha testers right now with the express understanding that those of us brave/crazy enough to try it will absolutely keep our mouths shut if anything is amiss (I.e., we will not @#$%, moan or even post). We will, instead, keep our own private notes about any bugs/issues. Then, when you officially release the beta we will see if any of these issues still exist and only then will we inform you of them. This could be a win/win if everyone follows those rules. :)

We are working very closely with the Alpha testers and are finding bugs that are being addressed. Most of the Android issues have been fixed and we have XIM Manager running on all sorts of hardware from Kitkat all the way back to Gingerbread (which is just about all Android devices out there).

We are currently blocked on the BT adapter. We have an $10 equivalent to what we will be shipping with on Amazon worldwide, but, it's giving some of our testers issues. We need to fix these before the Beta goes out.

OBs if the issues are all fixable via updates and not hardware related why not let us use it as well? We understand it will be buggy, thats part of the reasoning for a beta right? It's not like you're going to scare away new customers with a few bugs. Everyone that will be participating is already a customer! We're all EDGE owners, we know XIM stands alone when it comes to quality and service. So please dont be soo gunshy! If 4E is even close give it to us. No one expects it to be perfect or even 80%, it's a BETA. We just want to stop sitting on our hands, which is silly if we can help. Now if theres still some kind of Hardware issue then color me concerned! Please let us know. You're shooting for a 1st quarter XIM 4 release, Beta time is quickly evaporating. I'm beggining to wish I'd bought a Cronus Max to use my Edge as I haven't played a game on my XB1 in over a month. I just keep holding out for your beta, like alot of other folks around here. 

I did consider this, but, it's about what we can handle. The Beta is going to be *large*. If there are fundamental issues it's going to be impossible for us to handle all the support issues/anger/frustration while continuing to build the product. The Alpha testers need to be 100% working first -- they are almost there. We will know more tomorrow.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 07:03 PM - 01/27/14
Bcall the beta is very close man don't know when but I pray every night to the xim gods to bestow on to us thy beta.

Seriously though there's just too many unreasonable people for that to work.  Would be aweslme though.  I cursed loud enough my neighbors think I'm crazy.  I hate controllers
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 02:36 AM - 01/28/14
judging by the mess the inpatient and the uninformed or even the incapable are doing to the forum i'd say OBsIV is making the right move. things would get out of hand with an open alpha almost certainly..
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: k-crip on 06:28 AM - 01/28/14
Dear all,
Please, understand that there are a lot of people in this forum whose mother tongue is not English. For example, mine is Spanish.
If you were born in a place where all the people speak English, your English will be almost perfect, and surely you will have advantage over the internet for this reason.

Getting back to the topic, I understand that XIM team is going to release a beta test for the XIMEdge users to test it on their next-gen consoles. The suggestions received from this beta would be used by XIM team to release the new XIM4 alpha.

I have seen people here mocking about the release date of the first units of XIM4. Please do not do this. That is because people not experienced in how XIM releases its products (like me) could get confused.
As far as I understand, XIM team were selecting a enclosure for XIM4 (maybe they already have it). Now they are developing a robust FW/SW for their new product.

Do you know if there are any HW differences between the first units produced and the last ones? I mean, the HW inside a XIM Edge is the same for those who bought it at first release than at the end? I ask you this because I plan to buy a XIM4 as soon as XIM team releases it.

Hope that we can get one XIM4 each of us ar the end of February. My best wishes to the XIM team in their new product line.

Best regards from the sunny Spain.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:28 AM - 01/28/14
k-crip, I apologize if there were members of the community confusing things concerning release. The Beta is ready. The issue is finding a reliable source of Bluetooth adapters for exiting Edge owners so that can test out the XIM4 firmware. There are a couple of vendors on Amazon with compatible $10 adapters (with Prime shipping) -- which is great. But, the quality/stability of these adapters are terrible. I'd say 1 out of 4 either outright don't work or fail to initialize often. We are trying to locate a better source of Bluetooth adapters for the Beta.

Yes, the retail Edge hardware has never changed.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: wdmyers on 10:43 AM - 01/28/14
Are you guys just trying to find a "cheap" adapter so the beta isn't cost prohibitive?  If so, is there an adapter that's consistent but may be a premium product? 
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 11:11 AM - 01/28/14
Good to know that that's the last thing you all have left to figure out. Would maybe a more pricey adapter offer better stability and be more compatible? I realize more compatible really doesn't make sense because either it works or it doesn't but you know what I mean. Haha
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 11:18 AM - 01/28/14
It doens't need to be lowest cost it would be nice but if it cant be done then it's all good and understandable.  I think everyone would be just fine purchasing a quality BT adapter as opposed to cheap and causing problems and frustration.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 11:19 AM - 01/28/14
^^ yeah if there was a $20 adapter but 100% worked with no issues I wouldn't care and buy it in a heart beat. I think 90% of the people on here feel the same way.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: GreyMouser on 11:22 AM - 01/28/14
k-crip, I apologize if there were members of the community confusing things concerning release. The Beta is ready. The issue is finding a reliable source of Bluetooth adapters for exiting Edge owners so that can test out the XIM4 firmware. There are a couple of vendors on Amazon with compatible $10 adapters (with Prime shipping) -- which is great. But, the quality/stability of these adapters are terrible. I'd say 1 out of 4 either outright don't work or fail to initialize often. We are trying to locate a better source of Bluetooth adapters for the Beta.

Yes, the retail Edge hardware has never changed.

I haven't kept up with things (no XB1 or PS4), but have you tried this? (LINK (http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10308&cs_id=1030801&p_id=9386&seq=1&format=2)). It's backwards compatible with Bluetooth 2.1+EDR.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 11:41 AM - 01/28/14
Agreed. If there is a better adapter that consistently works, I think it would be better to just buy that, even if it's $10 or $15 more.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Amarce on 11:51 AM - 01/28/14
I bought 3 different adapters the day he announced there would be a beta just in case one wouldn't work when beta arrived
lol........ Seems so long ago there's high chance one of them is lost by now
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: wildsoldier on 12:50 PM - 01/28/14
Hello,

I haven't post here for a while. I bought my xim edge a few weeks before ps4 release. The edge was an upgrade to the computer based first xim1(black box edition) that i had. I was reading the forum for a while and notice that the beta is going to be available for edge users. I was wondering how this is going to work are we buying the xim beta for $xxx amount of dollars and when xim4 final release is out we need to buy for another $xxx amount of dollars? Would it be a free upgrade from beta to final? Software update? Or no one knows yet?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zenigame96 on 01:13 PM - 01/28/14
Agreed. If there is a better adapter that consistently works, I think it would be better to just buy that, even if it's $10 or $15 more.

+1000. I'd much rather spend a few extra dollars to get the beta sooner haha.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mcdonamw on 01:14 PM - 01/28/14
Hello,

I haven't post here for a while. I bought my xim edge a few weeks before ps4 release. The edge was an upgrade to the computer based first xim1(black box edition) that i had. I was reading the forum for a while and notice that the beta is going to be available for edge users. I was wondering how this is going to work are we buying the xim beta for $xxx amount of dollars and when xim4 final release is out we need to buy for another $xxx amount of dollars? Would it be a free upgrade from beta to final? Software update? Or no one knows yet?

Most of this information is in the INFO thread:  http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=29121.0

Though, as this information isn't really organized in a clear and concise (read: FAQ style) manner... I'll attempt to answer your question here to the best of my ability...  Please I welcome any corrections from anyone with more accurate knowledge.

*ahem*

The Edge will receive a version of the XIM4 code, aka XIM4E, (for free) and will require you to purchase extra hardware to run the beta as intended (e.g. a Bluetooth dongle for remote configuration via phone, as well as a powered USB hub for your peripherals if needed).

Once XIM4 is released, you will need to purchase the new XIM4, which will also ship with a BT dongle included (as well as built in BT transmitter for PS4 compatibility).  You would use your existing USB hub, if necessary.

Also, when XIM4 releases, the beta firmware for the EDGE will no longer be supported and will not receive new updates, e.g. smart translators, bug fixes, etc.  You will need to revert the EDGE to it's legacy x360/PS3 firmware which will only work on those platforms, though will receive continued support/fixes/translators.

I'm just sorta hazy on the BT pieces. 


Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 01:15 PM - 01/28/14
Hello,

I haven't post here for a while. I bought my xim edge a few weeks before ps4 release. The edge was an upgrade to the computer based first xim1(black box edition) that i had. I was reading the forum for a while and notice that the beta is going to be available for edge users. I was wondering how this is going to work are we buying the xim beta for $xxx amount of dollars and when xim4 final release is out we need to buy for another $xxx amount of dollars? Would it be a free upgrade from beta to final? Software update? Or no one knows yet?

beta is free for all Edge owners. will be available for xbox one in days/weeks. PS4 later.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: wildsoldier on 01:18 PM - 01/28/14
uhmm...makes sense!!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: scacs on 01:22 PM - 01/28/14
Once XIM4 is released, you will need to purchase the new XIM4, which will also ship with a BT dongle included (as well as built in BT transmitter for PS4 compatibility).  You would use your existing USB hub, if necessary.

Why would you need a USB hub? Will xim4 have enough ports for the controller in + mouse + keyboard? Would the hub be for using more devices than that?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 01:24 PM - 01/28/14
You will only need the hub for beta with your Edge. Unless there are bluetooth devices out there that will not be supported by XIM4's onboard bluetooth. Then you will need your hub for the extra bluetooth adapter.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Amarce on 01:27 PM - 01/28/14
I also believe, although it wasn't clearly stated, that the beta won't fully be dropped until XIM4 has been out for a reasonable time. It would be a little unlike obsiv to instantly cut us off again before we receive the xim4. As I said, this is only my opinion based on past and expectations of it taking time for orders to be filled.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: scacs on 01:30 PM - 01/28/14
You will only need the hub for beta with your Edge. Unless there are bluetooth devices out there that will not be supported by XIM4's onboard bluetooth. Then you will need your hub for the extra bluetooth adapter.

Will a wired mouse and keyboard be supported without a hub on the x4?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 01:32 PM - 01/28/14
You will only need the hub for beta with your Edge. Unless there are bluetooth devices out there that will not be supported by XIM4's onboard bluetooth. Then you will need your hub for the extra bluetooth adapter.

Will a wired mouse and keyboard be supported without a hub on the x4?

yes XIM4 will have 3 or 4 USB ports like XIM3 and XIM Edge before it.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mcdonamw on 01:33 PM - 01/28/14
I also believe, although it wasn't clearly stated, that the beta won't fully be dropped until a reasonable time after XIM4 is out. It would be a little unlike obsiv to instantly cut us off again before we receive the xim4. As I said, this is only my opinion based on past and expectations of it taking time for orders to be filled.

I don't think they are building some sort of time-bomb to stop the beta from working at a specific date.  I believe they are just going to stop ongoing development on the beta firmware and will no longer offer new smart translators, trouble support, etc. for the XIM4E once the production XIM4 releases.   In essence you could run the beta as long as you want, as long as it meets all of your needs and isn't malfunctioning.

Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 01:34 PM - 01/28/14
I also believe, although it wasn't clearly stated, that the beta won't fully be dropped until XIM4 has been out for a reasonable time. It would be a little unlike obsiv to instantly cut us off again before we receive the xim4. As I said, this is only my opinion based on past and expectations of it taking time for orders to be filled.

why do you believe the edge beta will be out after the xim4?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 01:36 PM - 01/28/14
I read it like that at first too Beezles. By dropped he meant dropping support.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mcdonamw on 01:37 PM - 01/28/14
I also believe, although it wasn't clearly stated, that the beta won't fully be dropped until XIM4 has been out for a reasonable time. It would be a little unlike obsiv to instantly cut us off again before we receive the xim4. As I said, this is only my opinion based on past and expectations of it taking time for orders to be filled.

why do you believe the edge beta will be out after the xim4?

I think he means, the beta won't be cut off while we're still awaiting shipment for our new XIM4 once it's ordered.  I.E. the beta will continue to be available until we get our XIM4 in hand.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Amarce on 01:38 PM - 01/28/14
Do you think xim4 releases on day 1, and day 2 all orders are filled, shipped, and all customers are plugging in their xim4s? It will take time to fill all orders... Wouldnt you want to have your adapter working until you possess the new one? I'm sure obsiv thought of this.
Yes mist, dropped I meant support dropped. You got it
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 01:41 PM - 01/28/14
Do you think xim4 releases on day 1, and day 2 all orders are filled, shipped, and all customers are plugging in their xim4s? It will take time to fill all orders... Wouldnt you want to have your adapter working until you possess the new one? I'm sure obsiv thought of this.
Yes mist, dropped I meant support dropped. You got it

ok, ya - that makes much more sense!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Amarce on 01:42 PM - 01/28/14
😆👍
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 01:45 PM - 01/28/14
mist it seems that dealing with mostly you one gets a bit spoiled, after all not all mods are as skilled as you (flaws apart) so maybe we should really be more appreciative of your duties and attributes ^^

PS: not even sorry for off topic, excuse me guys.  ;D
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 02:03 PM - 01/28/14
Thanks?  :)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:06 PM - 01/28/14
lol
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 02:08 PM - 01/28/14
i have a feeling ak-xs doesn't like me  expecting a 2 page report on why, tomorrow
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 02:15 PM - 01/28/14
And this is why I continue checking these forums.  It's like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get. 
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 02:22 PM - 01/28/14
^ Momma always said that
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Boltman on 02:31 PM - 01/28/14
Thanks?  :)

lol

Exactly.

lmao
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 02:32 PM - 01/28/14
i have a feeling ak-xs doesn't like me  expecting a 2 page report on why, tomorrow

His complements are often slightly backhanded.

Regardless, the mods all do a great job. Except Odin. He smells like bratwurst.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Boltman on 02:33 PM - 01/28/14
More like Liverwurst to me.   :P
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 02:46 PM - 01/28/14
More like Liverwurst to me.   :P

Fair point. Fresh bratts aren't that bad ... it's the liverwurst that slays my nares.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 03:00 PM - 01/28/14
Doesn't everyone have trays of fresh brats at their disposal?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 03:18 PM - 01/28/14
i have a feeling ak-xs doesn't like me  expecting a 2 page report on why, tomorrow

LOL join the club.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 03:31 PM - 01/28/14
even when i drop a simple random appreciative remark for reasons best not discussed, i get rook tailing in with fresh instigation. i've never been stalked by a person who is ignoring me with an forum feature before..

must be the most effective ignoring ever done too.

it was a genuine compliment mist. i just needed 'stuff' to happen to realize it, you are not without your flaws - story of any human's life.

i have a feeling ak-xs doesn't like me  expecting a 2 page report on why, tomorrow

LOL join the club.

that would be impossible. i don't like people by default, if they are worthy they will join the club of people i like or people that i don't mind, otherwise they remain in the default section.

and look the other person who is using the ignore feature on me but can't avoid talking about me every day. ^^
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Boltman on 04:09 PM - 01/28/14
Do you like me ak?       

 ;D
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: jmc on 04:20 PM - 01/28/14
i have a feeling ak-xs doesn't like me  expecting a 2 page report on why, tomorrow

The length estimate was reasonable.  However, you couldn't possibly have really thought 24 hours later...
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 04:23 PM - 01/28/14
I was going more along the lines that I wouldn't check this topic until tomorrow.  Ak bugs everyone one way or another. Just like I have friends that bug me every once in a while. I'm sure I annoy people here and there.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 04:38 PM - 01/28/14
Well since you brought it up..

just kidding.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Uber Pooch on 04:42 PM - 01/28/14
^^ yeah if there was a $20 adapter but 100% worked with no issues I wouldn't care and buy it in a heart beat. I think 90% of the people on here feel the same way.

Couldn't care less what the adapter costs. If it makes the XIM4 works then I'm all in. :)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 04:50 PM - 01/28/14
Do you like me ak?       

 ;D

you need to ask? surely you jest  ;D


Couldn't care less what the adapter costs. If it makes the XIM4 works then I'm all in. :)

^this. i think that sums up most of us and our opinion. ^^
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Ixt on 07:38 PM - 01/28/14
Same about cost of adapter, and lmao @ the mist "compliment" / reaction.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Drow Elf Drizzt on 09:51 PM - 01/28/14
Back to raise a little hell...think I found my first target ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: roads on 09:53 PM - 01/28/14
People in the German section are asking if the XIM4 will have support for PS4 at release or later by firmware update. In other words Obsiv, do you plan releasing the XIM4 for the ONE as soon as possible or wait until the Edge beta has undergone PS4 testing?
This information is totally uninteresting to the competition but for the group order its important. At this time you pack almost 50 XIM4 in a package and send them over to Germany. Much nicer than labelling 50 unique boxes.
So organized these Germans...
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 10:05 PM - 01/28/14
So organized these Germans...

LOL and effective.. i wonder if this has anything to do why German Engineering and mastery of exact sciences are so great..
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:49 PM - 01/28/14
XIM4 will not be blocked by PS4. No matter when PS4 support comes in it'll just be Beta tested at that point in the product cycle. Either using Edge (XIM4E) or XIM4.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 11:10 PM - 01/28/14
Obsiv and luck finding a different BT adapter?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: roads on 11:48 PM - 01/28/14
XIM4 will not be blocked by PS4. No matter when PS4 support comes in it'll just be Beta tested at that point in the product cycle. Either using Edge (XIM4E) or XIM4.

OK so to be clear you are still aiming the Q1 release for the XIM4 with Xbox ONE support. Maybe a language barrier, I just dont get it. The PS4 support will come later, on those same devices, tested on the Edge beta or directly on the XIM4, if that is already released?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Akelis10 on 11:56 PM - 01/28/14
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that its been long enough and the Beta should be out by now for both the xbox1 and PS4. these consoles have been out for 2 months already. I understand you guys are working on the XIM 4 but beta should be out.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 12:02 AM - 01/29/14
XIM4 will not be blocked by PS4. No matter when PS4 support comes in it'll just be Beta tested at that point in the product cycle. Either using Edge (XIM4E) or XIM4.

ok now this must go to the infothread so we can forever keep it and let it shine where the shadow of doubt decided to come lurking.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Soulo on 01:12 AM - 01/29/14
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that its been long enough and the Beta should be out by now for both the xbox1 and PS4. these consoles have been out for 2 months already. I understand you guys are working on the XIM 4 but beta should be out.

No, you only speak for yourself.   
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 01:20 AM - 01/29/14
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that its been long enough and the Beta should be out by now for both the xbox1 and PS4. these consoles have been out for 2 months already. I understand you guys are working on the XIM 4 but beta should be out.

They are working on the beta. What is used in the beta will be used in XIM4. This is the purpose of testing during the beta, so that a stable XIM4 launch is possible.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 01:49 AM - 01/29/14
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that its been long enough and the Beta should be out by now for both the xbox1 and PS4. these consoles have been out for 2 months already. I understand you guys are working on the XIM 4 but beta should be out.

please say that you are trolling...

and i don't think you speak for a lot of people really.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: neme on 02:17 AM - 01/29/14
please say that you are trolling...

and i don't think you speak for a lot of people really.

+1 Like :)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: lukemedway_uk on 02:38 AM - 01/29/14
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that its been long enough and the Beta should be out by now for both the xbox1 and PS4. these consoles have been out for 2 months already. I understand you guys are working on the XIM 4 but beta should be out.

So... Based on your expert knowledge of software development, perhaps you can provide some reasons why you think it should be out already, given that they have only had 2 months to build it?

What are your qualifications to make a statement like this?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: k-crip on 05:21 AM - 01/29/14
Could you please explain what do you mean with XIM4E?
Is going to be a Edge version of XIM4?
Which difference will have one version against the other?
Obviously, XIM3 came with LCD. That is why XIM Edge was released to lower the price and avoid the LCD screen.
But, as far as I understand, XIM4 will come in a enclosure similar to XIM Edge, so, no need to release a XIM4Edge to lower the price of the full XIM4.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 05:34 AM - 01/29/14
Could you please explain what do you mean with XIM4E?
Is going to be a Edge version of XIM4?
Which difference will have one version against the other?
Obviously, XIM3 came with LCD. That is why XIM Edge was released to lower the price and avoid the LCD screen.
But, as far as I understand, XIM4 will come in a enclosure similar to XIM Edge, so, no need to release a XIM4Edge to lower the price of the full XIM4.

the xim4E is the xim edge beta to replicate the xim4
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 05:38 AM - 01/29/14
Could you please explain what do you mean with XIM4E?
Is going to be a Edge version of XIM4?
Which difference will have one version against the other?
Obviously, XIM3 came with LCD. That is why XIM Edge was released to lower the price and avoid the LCD screen.
But, as far as I understand, XIM4 will come in a enclosure similar to XIM Edge, so, no need to release a XIM4Edge to lower the price of the full XIM4.

XIM4E = XIMEdge beta = the beta that will enable a sample of XIM4 features on XIMEdge.

which serves 2 purposes:
- stop all the deaths of poor people with next gen consoles and games that cannot wait to get a XIM to play with on such consoles+games.

- test the XIM4 software before it is released so that when it is, it's nearly issue free.


are you not entertained?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: zig3mix on 08:32 AM - 01/29/14
Someone turn on the lights!
Im in the dark here!

wheres z xim 4!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 08:34 AM - 01/29/14
Someone turn on the lights!
Im in the dark here!

wheres z xim 4!

http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=29121.0
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Trepx on 12:33 PM - 01/29/14
Ummmmm.... I'm here for the gangbang?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 12:34 PM - 01/29/14
Ummmmm.... I'm here for the gangbang?

did the GroupMe army send you?  (inside joke)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: manaus on 01:25 PM - 01/29/14
I hope it is worldwide available...dont care about the price.  :)

k-crip, I apologize if there were members of the community confusing things concerning release. The Beta is ready. The issue is finding a reliable source of Bluetooth adapters for exiting Edge owners so that can test out the XIM4 firmware. There are a couple of vendors on Amazon with compatible $10 adapters (with Prime shipping) -- which is great. But, the quality/stability of these adapters are terrible. I'd say 1 out of 4 either outright don't work or fail to initialize often. We are trying to locate a better source of Bluetooth adapters for the Beta.

Yes, the retail Edge hardware has never changed.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 02:56 PM - 01/29/14
Any usb hub will be fine?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: shantzonpoint on 08:42 PM - 01/29/14
Any usb hub will be fine?

As long as it has four ports.  I bought a powered USB hub but OBsiv said he was confident that power consumption was low enough that a powered hub wasn't necessary.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: manaus on 07:53 AM - 01/30/14
Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 08:39 AM - 01/30/14
Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

no idea, but when OBsIV releases the info - you'll know about it
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: manaus on 09:09 AM - 01/30/14
I understand that Beezles...small problem for me is that I live in the middle of the Amazon jungle, there are not so many options of adapters around here, and if I order via ebay, it may take up to a month to arrive :-)

Anyway...I hope to know it soon.  ;)

Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

no idea, but when OBsIV releases the info - you'll know about it
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Pinda NL on 09:46 AM - 01/30/14
Do we need a bluetooth dongle to connect the xim edge or do we only need the bluetooth for smartphone app? i dont have a android smartphone or device and im not planning to buy one but buying a bluetooth dongle i can live with.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 10:02 AM - 01/30/14
I'm still trying to figure this out. If we don't have an Android device how will people use the beta?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 10:04 AM - 01/30/14
I'm still trying to figure this out. If we don't have an Android device how will people use the beta?

PC
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:04 AM - 01/30/14
Use the PC app.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:08 AM - 01/30/14
Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

We are very close on closing on the BT adapter used for the Beta. If all goes well, it will be announced this weekend. Then, mid-next week the Beta will start.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 10:10 AM - 01/30/14
This hasn't been demo'd yet has it?

Didn't Obsiv say the PC app would look like the Android app or am I just imagining things? Also will it be available on Mac?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:12 AM - 01/30/14
No the PC app hasn't been demoed. One of our Alpha Testers is using it on Mac (through PC emulation).
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 10:15 AM - 01/30/14
Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

We are very close on closing on the BT adapter used for the Beta. If all goes well, it will be announced this weekend. Then, mid-next week the Beta will start.

Hi ObsIV

Will the initial beta release include PS4 support or will that come later?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 10:23 AM - 01/30/14
No the PC app hasn't been demoed. One of our Alpha Testers is using it on Mac (through PC emulation).
AWESOME!

I was thinking of getting a Surface 2 Pro. Haven't used Windows 8 yet is it like backwards compatible with 7 if that makes sense?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: manaus on 10:27 AM - 01/30/14
Thanks ObsIV  ;D

Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

We are very close on closing on the BT adapter used for the Beta. If all goes well, it will be announced this weekend. Then, mid-next week the Beta will start.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 10:31 AM - 01/30/14
Actually I forgot about my wifes computer but I don't think it has Bluetooth. I would have to buy 2 of whatever bluetooth adapters Obsiv says to get so I can connect to my laptop. Shame because my Mac has bluetooth. haha
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: roads on 10:32 AM - 01/30/14
No the PC app hasn't been demoed. One of our Alpha Testers is using it on Mac (through PC emulation).

That would be Mindworm.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:34 AM - 01/30/14
Initial Beta will be Xbox One only. Orbital is finishing audio passthrough for it and after that he is on to PS4 support.

Concerning the Surface Pro 2 post, take a good look at the Dell Venue line. Even the $250 one is amazing and it runs full Windows 8 without issue.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:34 AM - 01/30/14
No the PC app hasn't been demoed. One of our Alpha Testers is using it on Mac (through PC emulation).

That would be Mindworm.

Beezles.
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Post by: Beezles on 10:39 AM - 01/30/14
No the PC app hasn't been demoed. One of our Alpha Testers is using it on Mac (through PC emulation).

That would be Mindworm.

Beezles.

O.O
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Post by: tuffrabit on 10:40 AM - 01/30/14
You just got outed by the boss... prepare your inbox.
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Post by: Beezles on 10:41 AM - 01/30/14
ya, cat's outta the bag
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Post by: damstr on 10:42 AM - 01/30/14
Haha as I just sent a PM asking about the PC emulation software.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 10:46 AM - 01/30/14
I figured everyone assumed all the mods were Alpha Testers. Sorry about that.
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Post by: roads on 10:54 AM - 01/30/14
Od1n tests alpha? :D
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: haspko39 on 11:12 AM - 01/30/14
Bluetooth adapter e-blue V4 + EDR
Should it work?

We are very close on closing on the BT adapter used for the Beta. If all goes well, it will be announced this weekend. Then, mid-next week the Beta will start.

Comeon OBsIV, release beta before this weekend. One more weekend without xim4e is unbearable...:(
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 11:14 AM - 01/30/14
Even if the software were released you likely wouldn't be able to order and receive the right bluetooth adapter in time anyway.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that this weekend is out.
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Post by: mist4fun on 11:24 AM - 01/30/14
Agreed. Set your expectations accordingly.
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Post by: SuponjiBobu on 01:11 PM - 01/30/14
We are very close on closing on the BT adapter used for the Beta. If all goes well, it will be announced this weekend. Then, mid-next week the Beta will start.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif)
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Post by: rezneffix on 01:35 PM - 01/30/14
Initial Beta will be Xbox One only. Orbital is finishing audio passthrough for it and after that he is on to PS4 support.

Concerning the Surface Pro 2 post, take a good look at the Dell Venue line. Even the $250 one is amazing and it runs full Windows 8 without issue.

Cool sounds good.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: JayinThaz on 03:22 PM - 01/30/14
sigh....Guess i will sell my ps4 and go back to PC then :'(
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 03:26 PM - 01/30/14
sigh....Guess i will sell my ps4 and go back to PC then :'(

Why? After X1 audio passthrough PS4 support will take priority.

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Post by: mr_clark on 03:53 PM - 01/30/14
sigh....Guess i will sell my ps4 and go back to PC then :'(

Wow. Sounds like a bit of an over reaction there.

I'd love to have a XIM4 working on my PS4 yesterday but let's think logically about this. First, the developers are working their butts off to get this device rolled out as soon as possible but ONLY when it's working well. Do you want them to rush and release a buggy piece of crap?

Secondly, nowhere was it stated that it would be out in January. The last thing I read seems to say they're still on target for a Q1 release date. Well, last time I looked, we're only 1/3 of the way through the quarter.

So relax. Grab a drink and let's look forward to the best darn device being released when it's ready.

Just my 2 cents worth.

PS: Sorry if I'm stepping on any toes. I'm brand new here and maybe I should just bite my tongue. Let me know if I'm overstepping any sort of rules (written or unwritten).

Thanks!
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Post by: Threewheels on 04:13 PM - 01/30/14
sigh....Guess i will sell my ps4 and go back to PC then :'(


awesome,  sell it to me please.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Sgt8Bit on 04:22 PM - 01/30/14
Beta starting next week??  I hate to sound skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by: damstr on 04:34 PM - 01/30/14
Beta starting next week??  I hate to sound skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it.
The key thing is Obsiv said "if everything goes well" so yeah. Perfect world mid next week. I expect it the following weekend.

Everyone wants to know when its coming out so Obsiv tries his best to give a rough estimate and people take that as a solid release date. lmao
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Post by: RookCheck on 05:00 PM - 01/30/14
Beta starting next week??  I hate to sound skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it.
The key thing is Obsiv said "if everything goes well" so yeah. Perfect world mid next week. I expect it the following weekend.

Everyone wants to know when its coming out so Obsiv tries his best to give a rough estimate and people take that as a solid release date. lmao

^^

It was estimated to be end of January ... and zomg, it is!

Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Od1n on 05:19 PM - 01/30/14
Initial Beta will be Xbox One only. Orbital is finishing audio passthrough for it and after that he is on to PS4

Lets hope you will be on it too to accelerate the process

Sucks to see voice passthrough for a beta has a higher priority :(
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 06:20 PM - 01/30/14
It only makes sense to completely finish the Xbox One beta out there first as soon as possible so people can start testing the software.

It will only benifit the PS4 XIM experience in the end anyway.

Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 06:31 PM - 01/30/14
Initial Beta will be Xbox One only. Orbital is finishing audio passthrough for it and after that he is on to PS4

Lets hope you will be on it too to accelerate the process

Sucks to see voice passthrough for a beta has a higher priority :(

Od1n, we want to have our Xbox One product major-feature-complete before moving on.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: UnRyValD on 06:41 PM - 01/30/14
I don't understand why people just don't get a cronus to use with their edge or 3 if they got to have support now.

I've been using it for a month with 360 profiles and I can't tell the difference.

It's alot better than those poor ps4 people who have to spend 400$ for their only solution.
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Post by: CameronMC on 06:54 PM - 01/30/14
I was going to get CronusMAX when it was first announced working with XIM on Xbox One, but then everyone kept giving hope that BETA would be in about 2 weeks and that 2 weeks has taken forever ;)

So let's hope the mid next week for BETA is for real, I'd so much prefer using the BETA!
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Post by: quanchi on 07:23 PM - 01/30/14
Just a quick question ... i am seeing all this talk about the correct bluetooth adapter for the beta launch ... but from what i gather the beta launch is only for xboxone "at this moment". Do people need bluetooth adapters for the ximedge beta launch to work properly for the xboxone? or is all this talk about bluetooth adapters for ps4 support (**xim edge ps4 beta launch support**)? sorry if this is beating the dead horse ... im not a forums expert by any means :)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 07:38 PM - 01/30/14
You need a BT adapter regardless of what your are using the XIM beta on. Whatever will work for the XB1 will work for the PS4.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Sgt8Bit on 07:52 PM - 01/30/14
The key thing is Obsiv said "if everything goes well" so yeah. Perfect world mid next week. I expect it the following weekend.

Everyone wants to know when its coming out so Obsiv tries his best to give a rough estimate and people take that as a solid release date. lmao

I totally get that an appreciate the fact that Obsiv provides ETAs (remember what the E stands for).  Problem is "if everything goes well".  So far they have not...lol.  Little minor things creep up and causes a delay. 

Although the systems have only been released for 2 month, I can recall expecting the beta to arrive around Christmas/New Years, as it was coming soon then too.  But here we are heading into Feb, beta-less.  And that is because Obsiv wants somewhat perfection to be released as the beta (not going elaborate more on this as it can cause a thread closing debate).

That being said, I'm sure it will finally be dropping soon.  I'm just thankful I have a CMax to have held me over the past month.  If I was exclusively waiting for the beta, I think I would've gone insane (or I would have regretted buying my X1 on launch as I would have been playing on my Xbox 360 with my XIM Edge/3)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: GuNStArHeRo on 07:54 PM - 01/30/14
I don't understand why people just  ???don't get a cronus to use with their edge or 3 if they got to have support now.

I've been using it for a month with 360 profiles and I can't tell the difference.

It's alot better than those poor ps4 people who have to spend 400$ for their only solution.

not my only solution i play just fine with a controller i just like mouse for dat aim lol. $400 price tag is a bit beast idc what amount of time and tools the person put into making it. if they were smart they'd drop the price to sell more units but i guess they feel supply and demand makes the price right ???
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: PlaDale on 07:56 PM - 01/30/14

sigh....Guess i will sell my ps4 and go back to PC then :'(

Agreed, I just threw my ps4 in the trash and beat my kid
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: izzy on 08:01 PM - 01/30/14
It only makes sense to completely finish the Xbox One beta out there first as soon as possible so people can start testing the software.

It will only benifit the PS4 XIM experience in the end anyway.

Says the Xbone owner
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Post by: GuNStArHeRo on 08:01 PM - 01/30/14
Agreed, I just threw my ps4 in the trash and beat my kid

hahaha LMAO!!!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 08:04 PM - 01/30/14
The CM has help me maintain my sanity for awhile now but I'm ready to be in the beta!
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: damstr on 08:05 PM - 01/30/14
It only makes sense to completely finish the Xbox One beta out there first as soon as possible so people can start testing the software.

It will only benifit the PS4 XIM experience in the end anyway.

Says the Xbone owner
I have both....
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: izzy on 08:07 PM - 01/30/14
It only makes sense to completely finish the Xbox One beta out there first as soon as possible so people can start testing the software.

It will only benifit the PS4 XIM experience in the end anyway.

Says the Xbone owner
I have both....

Thats even worse.

I hate you so much right now.

Lol. Just kidding.

Best of both worlds. Nice
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: CameronMC on 10:31 PM - 01/30/14
Sgt8Bit is right though, @#$% happens and because of that.. If no Bluetooth info comes out this weekend and/or BETA isn't happening next week. I'm going to bite the bullet and buy myself the CronusMAX to use with EDGE, mainly because I feel like that $600 machine is a waste of money since I've barely touched it since the console release date haha.

And forget BETA completely, just come back for XIM4 release :P
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Post by: mcdonamw on 10:43 PM - 01/30/14
Says the Xbone owner

XBoner?
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mcdonamw on 10:53 PM - 01/30/14
And forget BETA completely, just come back for XIM4 release :P

Try as you might.. there's no way in hell you'll be able to forego the free beta when it's available.  It'll call your name in your sleep!  You'll end up getting it.. buying the necessary BT adapter and hub... then realize how stupid it was for you to waste $60 on a hack solution that prevents you from being able to talk to other people in game (if playing COD, anyway)...   

People need to just relax.  Playing with the controller is not THAT bad.  I hated it at first... I had a 1.2 KD in COD... stuck needles in a voodoo doll of OBsIV... but over the past few months my skills came back and I'm up to 2.10 and increasing as I am dominating people more and more.

Sure I still miss the fine tuned shots while being able to instant 360 when playing on max sensitivity, but at this point I don't expect the XIM4 to really increase my game play much more than I am dealing with right now.  It'll let me play more recklessly (I prefer run-n-gun play) while not having to be scared of dying as much, but in the end my scores now with controller are back to what I was getting with my XIM3 on 360.  It's called adapting!  Try it.
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Post by: RML on 11:09 PM - 01/30/14
Yeah I give up. No more BF4 with a controller. There's no way I'm going to spend another min. Trying to get used to a stupid gpad again unless Xim shuts the doors! Going to buy something tmw to tide me over, probably AC Black Flag.
 
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: CameronMC on 11:10 PM - 01/30/14
I don't know about your country, but I live in the middle of no where (One shop town) so the cost of either fuel/gas to drive hours to a big computer shop or shipping for the hub and dongle + the costs of those things will be similar to CronusMAX and honestly the voice doesn't bother me, I use Skype on the PC as I only play with ONE friend and not talking to random kids on Xbox Live doesn't bother me either.

My setup is Astro Mixamp, USB in PC and Optical in Xbox One.. so I get good sound and voice using my PC for the voice, and Xbox for game sound ;) so I don't need the audio pass-through, since I only have one Xbox LIVE friend.. rest are PC Gamers.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mcdonamw on 11:17 PM - 01/30/14
Yeah then maybe it's not that big a deal for you.. so by all means go for it.  I still think there's no way you'll pass on the beta once it's here.  Just saying ;).  But more power to ya!
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: rezneffix on 12:27 AM - 01/31/14
Yeah I give up. No more BF4 with a controller. There's no way I'm going to spend another min. Trying to get used to a stupid gpad again unless Xim shuts the doors! Going to buy something tmw to tide me over, probably AC Black Flag.

Its a fun game. Should keep you busy for a while. The piracy part where you attack other ships is just endless fun. And when you get bored you can get back to land and do other stuff. My approach to the whole xim situation is simply to enjoy other games till it arrives for the ps4. Over the past few years I overlooked countless fun singleplayer games just to play on cod with the xim. This is a good time to take a break!
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Post by: CameronMC on 12:49 AM - 01/31/14
@mcdonamw If people say, holy @#$% my K/D went up so much from using the X1 Smart Translator vs the 360 Smart Translator.. then maybe BETA will be coming this way ;)
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Post by: lukemedway_uk on 02:08 AM - 01/31/14
If anything I think my k/d will go down with the xim as I'll need to get used to mouse and keyboard again. I don't care though because it just feels better to use a mouse.

Glad I have used the controller though as at least I now have the map knowledge.
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Post by: GuNStArHeRo on 04:22 AM - 01/31/14
Over the past few years I overlooked countless fun singleplayer games just to play on cod with the xim. This is a good time to take a break!

i'm guilty of that as well but i over looked singleplayer games to play Gears of War's multiplayer.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 06:24 AM - 01/31/14
Has the enclosure process begun?

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Post by: singlecoilpickup on 12:45 PM - 01/31/14
Zach, why are you obsessed with the enclosure? This is like the 19th time you've been asking about the enclosure.

OBsIV has said the enclosure is not a concern. Move on.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: OBsIV on 01:23 PM - 01/31/14
Has the enclosure process begun?

Yes.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RML on 01:24 PM - 01/31/14
^ 19th time is a charm!  ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 01:30 PM - 01/31/14
$20 says it gets asked about at least one more time.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 01:44 PM - 01/31/14
Has the enclosure process begun?

Yes.

Awesome
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 02:27 PM - 01/31/14
maybe he is just lookng for closure  ;)
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 02:31 PM - 01/31/14
maybe he is just lookng for closure  ;)

Is that a pun encased in your post?
Title: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: Beezles on 02:33 PM - 01/31/14

maybe he is just lookng for closure  ;)

Is that a pun encased in your post?
I'm sure it is, case closed.
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: ak-xs on 03:11 PM - 01/31/14
the PUNisher would be proud guys..
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: roads on 03:13 PM - 01/31/14
Is thst the case?
Title: Re: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: RookCheck on 07:10 PM - 01/31/14
maybe he is just lookng for closure  ;)

Is that a pun encased in your post?

It is. And it's glorious.

/tear
Title: Re: WHEN XIM 4 is READY ??
Post by: mist4fun on 08:21 PM - 01/31/14
Aww you broke the chain. 7 extra days until beta for you only. :)