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Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: PS3_UK on 01:43 PM - 10/30/13
Heh. The only person whose 'knowledge' matters is OBsIV, who from the other thread seems reluctant to disclose the state of his knowledge/ what educated guesses he's able to make because he's worried about people stealing his ideas. This is going to end up as a 'try to second guess OBsIV's thoughts' thread... :)

One point I would make is that even if OBsIV doesn't come out with anything quickly, I bet other companies will get to market quickly with controller converters like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ps2+controller+adapter+to+ps3&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=24520475454&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8202268141735080661&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9muuxyoeou_b

That should tie us over until OBsIV comes out with something.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:30 PM - 10/30/13
Heh. The only person whose 'knowledge' matters is OBsIV

agreed

This is merely a dedicated space for you guys to compile info you notice as it comes along.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: CameronMC on 03:43 AM - 10/31/13
XIM4 on which console first?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: roads on 04:06 AM - 10/31/13
He didn’t say , this is not a question-thread honey, just post if you have a spy that works in the XIMtech garage. Likely the XIM4 will do both when its released.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: RML on 02:47 PM - 10/31/13
this is not a question-thread honey, just post if you have a spy that works in the XIMtech garage.

LMFAO....

That's the hardest I've laughed allll day. Holy Crap!

Back to topic, Sry TuFF.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 09:52 AM - 11/04/13
No Edge / XIM3 on nextgens
ETA XIM4 Q1 2014
 
Then my XIM 3 is going up for sale!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Choo on 12:43 PM - 11/04/13
Does OBsIV have most of the specs ready to go for the next XIM device?  In other words, is the XIM team really just waiting on receiving next-gen consoles in order to finalize the software and connectivity for the next-gen xim?


I remember the wait for xim3... it was quite long, but oh my goodness was it worth it!  :)


I will not buy a kb/m converter product from any other company than XIM.  The XIM product is the best on the planet.  I will definitely be pre-ordering as soon as it is available to pre-order.


I personally hope the XIM4 launches before Bungie's next game, Destiny.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 01:21 PM - 11/04/13
Info thread, not a Q&A :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 02:10 PM - 11/07/13
Reminds me of when the XIM 2 was released. You paid, got an order number and if I remember correctly there was a thread that would be updated every so often stating which orders were completed and shipped out.

Oh the good ol' days. haha
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: coldrushy on 08:34 AM - 11/11/13
As someone who doesn't follow these boards as intently as everyone else, and wouldn't know where to look for all the tidbits of information that may have been leaked along the way, thanks for posting this.

This might be kind of obvious, but assuming there is a new gen. Xim, will it be compatible for both PS4 and XBOX1? I have the XIM3 for Xbox, but was thinking about trying the PS4 as something new. I would not get the PS4 if there were no plans to build a XIM for it.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Atomfire on 08:37 AM - 11/11/13
As someone who doesn't follow these boards as intently as everyone else, and wouldn't know where to look for all the tidbits of information that may have been leaked along the way, thanks for posting this.

This might be kind of obvious, but assuming there is a new gen. Xim, will it be compatible for both PS4 and XBOX1? I have the XIM3 for Xbox, but was thinking about trying the PS4 as something new. I would not get the PS4 if there were no plans to build a XIM for it.

It is clear there will be a next gen Xim and I believe it should support Xbox One and PS4 but obviously no guarantee's at this point something might come up when they get their hands on the consoles.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Xenon on 03:56 PM - 11/11/13
long and short of it will be a super xim3-->xim4 style monster that will have this uber capacitive touch screen to do all your configurations with. It will continue to support standard translators with all the beauty and customisation the xim3 allows plus more.

not forgetting that it will also have an IOS/Android app which allows you to configure and change your configs in real time on the fly or simply nfc new configs to the xim4 device.

oh i forgot to mention that there will be a bluetooth 4.0 usb adaptor which connects to your pc and means you can update firmware etc straight over the air without having to plug it in ofcourse.

ps. #keepthedreamalive
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:00 PM - 11/11/13
Bump
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Hazeem on 11:58 PM - 11/11/13
long and short of it will be a super xim3-->xim4 style monster that will have this uber capacitive touch screen to do all your configurations with. It will continue to support standard translators with all the beauty and customisation the xim3 allows plus more.

not forgetting that it will also have an IOS/Android app which allows you to configure and change your configs in real time on the fly or simply nfc new configs to the xim4 device.

oh i forgot to mention that there will be a bluetooth 4.0 usb adaptor which connects to your pc and means you can update firmware etc straight over the air without having to plug it in ofcourse.

ps. #keepthedreamalive

wow xenon this by far the gadget of the year, can't imagine the price :D.

for me i believe it should be a fusion between XIM3 & EDGE.

1) there will be or will not be a screen (i like my xim3).

2) support both consoles.

3) it will support standard translator/Ballistics curve.

4) it will store more smart translators.

5) wireless Nav.

Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 04:17 PM - 11/12/13
Backwards compatible

cross gen cross platform - 1xim and 4 consoles
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Xenon on 01:15 PM - 11/13/13
remember the most important thing to do is let everyone know that xim is the best adaptor out there. the more support there is, the bigger the community etc. the more likely it is we get better hardware / more RnD done by the Obsiv.

edit: forgot to mention the nextgen xim will have an SD slot to backup/transfer/store etc.
Also wifi for reasons i have not figured out yet.

#keepthedreamalive
#Obsivmakemeoneprettyplease
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: facade on 06:25 PM - 11/13/13
Price undertermined yet

Doesn't matter. My wallet is ready
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: NinjaX2 on 02:36 PM - 11/14/13
I want standard configs..I want to turn my next gen XIM into a XIM2 please. :(
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: awdterror on 12:23 PM - 11/15/13
Has there been any mention of a trade-up program?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Xenon on 12:45 PM - 11/15/13
i hope to god that standard configs are never dropped. for the simple fact that I have spent alot of time tweaking and testing some of my configs going back to my xim2.

as much as i like ST's sometimes no matter how much you tweak em, they just don't feel right, yes from a technical point of view it may be just "in my head" but I still like the ability to use them moving forward.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Emanuel on 07:11 AM - 11/16/13
Just don´t get rid of ballistics please! They´re what made XIm Edge awesome, can´t live without them.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Lurkin374 on 08:36 AM - 11/16/13
will it be going back to an lcd screen? I still own 2 xim3's and prefer them over edge even though I don't own an edge. reason being color blind is a pain when the colors are not very different. red/green don't cut it.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: roads on 09:21 AM - 11/16/13
this is an info thread get out
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 09:32 AM - 11/16/13
dont worry ill clean it up later again
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Nudedude on 02:26 PM - 11/16/13
So it seems like there will be next gen XIM for next gen consoles, please take my money :)

I live in Finland and for our doom Microsoft is going to release Xbox1 here in somewhere early next year. (just like spoiling NOKIA isn´t enough :D ) So i got some extra time to wait for XIM4.

It will cost around 150$? Will be released maybe quite soon after Xbox1 is on stock? :)

But one big thing to concentrate when creating new XIM, as a "high end PC" player i can easily notise quite much some input lag / what ever lag with XIM edge + Xbox360 compared to PC. Let those tester / developers take a note. Maybe its not XIMs fault but machines itself, hope next gen consoles are better with that too.  Áim lag is spoiling "touch" when playing with mouse.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 10:57 AM - 11/17/13
it will cost at max $150.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Ditch Pickler on 09:12 PM - 11/17/13
Will xim4 have a screen like xim3?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 10:04 PM - 11/17/13
Will xim4 have a screen like xim3?
no. however there is a secret feature that will let you use a screen to configure the XIM, but we still don't know details. most likely it will be a smartphone companion app, so while it won't have the screen you will be able to use it as if it had.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Jlira on 01:48 PM - 11/18/13
Roads,
Thanks for the update.  Can you please confirm - the xim edge as-is will not work on XB1 but will function with the hub/dongle?  Any idea when these will be available?  I'd like to use the Edge on XB1.

Christmas gift from Obsiv:

If Orbital sees this fit, the Edge will be used a last time in a huge Betatest for some of the XIM4 features. The Edge will then discontinued sadly. So let that those lamps glow und plugs go hot a last time. You will have to buy hub and BT Dongle.

EDGE WILL SUPPORT NEXTGENS FOR A SHORT TIME
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 02:02 PM - 11/18/13
Roads,
Thanks for the update.  Can you please confirm - the xim edge as-is will not work on XB1 but will function with the hub/dongle?  Any idea when these will be available?  I'd like to use the Edge on XB1.

NO. we still don't know anything about XB1 support. wait until they come out.
for now what OBsIV said is that there might be a beta with a special FirmWare update for XIM Edge that would limit functionality and allow for PS4 support temporarily. to be crystal clear, it should also work for XB1 but we can only confirm that AFTER they arrive at OBsIV's door or equivalent.

the hub is required because we will probably need more than 3 USBs on XIM for some particular situations - not clear yet - and my guess is it's solely for the BT dongle. any hub will do but i recommend a powered one.

said BlueTooth dongle you can buy today, it's an Asus something something and it will be required for using the companion app for smartphones that enable screen of the phone to be used to configure the XIM.

if you search the forum for info on how to use the PSMove Nav controller on XIMEdge wirelessly you will find the BT dongle identification
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Ditch Pickler on 11:49 PM - 11/18/13
Will xim4 have a screen like xim3?
no. however there is a secret feature that will let you use a screen to configure the XIM, but we still don't know details. most likely it will be a smartphone companion app, so while it won't have the screen you will be able to use it as if it had.

Thats great news!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Sinezia on 09:19 AM - 11/20/13
OMG I cant wait for new XIM <3
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Neildo on 11:08 AM - 11/20/13
An idea about the relase date of beta firmware on Xim Edge ?

Somes informations that I have missed on the progress of work on this firmware ?

Thx.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: BionicTbag on 12:54 PM - 11/20/13
Roads,
Thanks for the update.  Can you please confirm - the xim edge as-is will not work on XB1 but will function with the hub/dongle?  Any idea when these will be available?  I'd like to use the Edge on XB1.

NO. we still don't know anything about XB1 support. wait until they come out.
for now what OBsIV said is that there might be a beta with a special FirmWare update for XIM Edge that would limit functionality and allow for PS4 support temporarily. to be crystal clear, it should also work for XB1 but we can only confirm that AFTER they arrive at OBsIV's door or equivalent.

the hub is required because we will probably need more than 3 USBs on XIM for some particular situations - not clear yet - and my guess is it's solely for the BT dongle. any hub will do but i recommend a powered one.

said BlueTooth dongle you can buy today, it's an Asus something something and it will be required for using the companion app for smartphones that enable screen of the phone to be used to configure the XIM.

if you search the forum for info on how to use the PSMove Nav controller on XIMEdge wirelessly you will find the BT dongle identification


eta 2 @#$% long days....im ordering mine tonight to be delivered on jan 1
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Boltman on 05:54 PM - 11/20/13
You guys are on the spot with these quick updates to what we know.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: glenn37216 on 05:50 PM - 11/21/13
edit   .. ak ur fast.  ;D
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 06:47 PM - 11/21/13
edit   .. ak ur fast.  ;D

well took you 1-2h xP

RML is faster than me when he is here!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: scrotesmd on 04:02 AM - 11/23/13
Anyone know why the beta is only open to dim edge? That blows
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: swikelius on 04:12 AM - 11/23/13
As previously stated, the xim3 does not have the memory to support it
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: scrotesmd on 04:16 AM - 11/23/13
Thanks for the reply, I'll borrow my brother's edge
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: PhilAshio on 01:19 AM - 11/24/13
Okay, will keep that in mind for the future.

What I'm curious about is if a Xim4 is released for Xbox One first, if it will have PS4 support patched in later when it's viable or if there will be a separate device.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: BLITZ on 08:47 AM - 11/24/13
Can someone link me to the forum or page where it lists all the details about XIM4, I'm not too sure whether I should sell my edge or not or what's happening any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: RML on 09:07 AM - 11/24/13
This isn't a question answer thread, but I feel for you so I will answer anyways. There isn't a XIM4 detail thread. No one knows yet what the XIM4 is except XIM. What we do know is that the PS4 only communicates with the DS4 controller via BT. This means the PS4 may not be supported with an XIM product for an undetermined amount of time. E.I. BT causes (possibly) too much lag and wired isn't working.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: LordNikon on 12:25 PM - 11/24/13
Well, I for one would like the XIM4 to be more like the XIM3 in regards to the LCD screen. That was a very useful thing to have, love it! If you are so inclined to take suggestions from loyal users =). Thanks so much for your work on this, you guys rock!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wasko69 on 11:37 AM - 11/25/13
Many thanks for the answer Odin.
I hope to gen some stable config for BF4 on my xone, maybe for titanfall.

W8 for miscrosoft to able usb keyboard&mouse on xone.

What should i do to partecipate to open beta?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Zenigame96 on 11:52 AM - 11/25/13
Many thanks for the answer Odin.
I hope to gen some stable config for BF4 on my xone, maybe for titanfall.

W8 for miscrosoft to able usb keyboard&mouse on xone.

What should i do to partecipate to open beta?

More details for the beta are coming next week. Until then, we're all in the dark on exactly how participation goes, but I've read somewhere on here that you will potentially need a USB Bluetooth adapter (a specific one, perhaps the same one used to set up a wireless sony nav on the XIM Edge.) to make it work.

As far as whether the Xbox One can support Keyboard and Mouse natively via it's W8 interface (I think that's what you were trying to say), it's theoretically possible. There was a game on PS3 (MAG?) that had Mouse support. The issue is that developers don't include the functionality in the console versions of their games, so it will likely never happen. I actually prefer that things stay this way because it will keep OBsIV in business. :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wasko69 on 02:16 PM - 11/25/13
Many thanks for the answer Odin.
I hope to gen some stable config for BF4 on my xone, maybe for titanfall.

W8 for miscrosoft to able usb keyboard&mouse on xone.

What should i do to partecipate to open beta?

More details for the beta are coming next week. Until then, we're all in the dark on exactly how participation goes, but I've read somewhere on here that you will potentially need a USB Bluetooth adapter (a specific one, perhaps the same one used to set up a wireless sony nav on the XIM Edge.) to make it work.

As far as whether the Xbox One can support Keyboard and Mouse natively via it's W8 interface (I think that's what you were trying to say), it's theoretically possible. There was a game on PS3 (MAG?) that had Mouse support. The issue is that developers don't include the functionality in the console versions of their games, so it will likely never happen. I actually prefer that things stay this way because it will keep OBsIV in business. :)

How much would cost this adapter?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Matteo91to on 06:48 PM - 11/25/13
Firstable, i hope that xim will be cheaper than the actual xim :). But what do you think about the coming out!!! I hope im not an irrespectable for who work on the project, i know that you work hard for us and community gamer, but can you answer me? Im really exited for the xim next gen!!!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 06:55 PM - 11/25/13
It will cost less than 150$ release unknown but most likely before 1. quartal 2014
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: anony on 07:45 PM - 11/25/13
Less than 150 = 149.99
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wunderdunce on 11:13 PM - 11/25/13
To be honest if it was more than 150 I would still get it, the convenience and fun that it provides in allowing me to use my mouse on my Xbox One is priceless.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: supasonic on 04:42 AM - 11/26/13
To be honest if it was more than 150 I would still get it, the convenience and fun that it provides in allowing me to use my mouse on my Xbox One is priceless.
^This
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Post by: mist4fun on 02:40 PM - 11/26/13
bump
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Post by: joecheve on 09:51 AM - 11/27/13
Christmas gift from Obsiv:

If Orbital sees this fit, the Edge will be used a last time in a huge Betatest for some of the XIM4 features. The Edge will then discontinued sadly. So let that those lamps glow und plugs go hot a last time. You will have to buy hub and BT Dongle.

EDGE WILL SUPPORT NEXTGENS FOR A SHORT TIME

OK pardon my ignorance but what is the usb hub and Bluetooth dongle?  how much do they cost?  I have a ps4 and I just suck using controller...  i need my m/kb back ASAP!  Lol
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: attila4go on 10:13 AM - 11/27/13
Christmas gift from Obsiv:

If Orbital sees this fit, the Edge will be used a last time in a huge Betatest for some of the XIM4 features. The Edge will then discontinued sadly. So let that those lamps glow und plugs go hot a last time. You will have to buy hub and BT Dongle.

EDGE WILL SUPPORT NEXTGENS FOR A SHORT TIME

OK pardon my ignorance but what is the usb hub and Bluetooth dongle?  how much do they cost?  I have a ps4 and I just suck using controller...  i need my m/kb back ASAP!  Lol

http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Bluetooth+dongle+price (http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Bluetooth+dongle+price)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: PlaDale on 09:52 PM - 11/27/13
32 BIT ARM PROCESSOR

Doesn't the Edge as well?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Soulo on 10:56 PM - 11/27/13
Christmas gift from Obsiv:

If Orbital sees this fit, the Edge will be used a last time in a huge Betatest for some of the XIM4 features. The Edge will then discontinued sadly. So let that those lamps glow und plugs go hot a last time. You will have to buy hub and BT Dongle.

EDGE WILL SUPPORT NEXTGENS FOR A SHORT TIME

OK pardon my ignorance but what is the usb hub and Bluetooth dongle?  how much do they cost?  I have a ps4 and I just suck using controller...  i need my m/kb back ASAP!  Lol

http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Bluetooth+dongle+price (http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Bluetooth+dongle+price)

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Oxxy on 01:42 AM - 11/28/13
Christmas gift from Obsiv:

If Orbital sees this fit, the Edge will be used a last time in a huge Betatest for some of the XIM4 features. The Edge will then discontinued sadly. So let that those lamps glow und plugs go hot a last time. You will have to buy hub and BT Dongle.

EDGE WILL SUPPORT NEXTGENS FOR A SHORT TIME

OK pardon my ignorance but what is the usb hub and Bluetooth dongle?  how much do they cost?  I have a ps4 and I just suck using controller...  i need my m/kb back ASAP!  Lol

Well I'm ignoring your ignorance because you sound clueless.

Anyway that's the risk you take being an early adopter of a new console. It wasn't hard to anticipate that a new xim wouldn't be ready for numerous months down the track. Be patient and wait till Q1 next year.

That's all you can do.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: InvictaVultis on 05:48 PM - 11/30/13
Will there be some big announcement, e-mail notification or maybe there is some newsletter option? I do not want to miss a chance to get N-GEN XIM for PS4. Definitely i will buy one.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 06:17 PM - 11/30/13
Yes. There will be an announcement soon.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Gnice4u on 08:24 PM - 11/30/13
I hope we get support of PS Move as well.  It + my mouse back FPS games a joy.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 08:34 PM - 11/30/13
I hope we get support of PS Move as well.  It + my mouse back FPS games a joy.

you will have support for the PSMove Nav both wired and wireless i'm sure..
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: beansberry on 12:20 PM - 12/02/13
I hope that will work with my Mac or iOS.  On bt assuming for st updating.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Mallez on 12:37 PM - 12/02/13
Hi all,

Finally was able to get on the boards by going non Hotmail account. haha

I'm so ready for beta testing :).  Picked up my X1 this weekend (Target actually had a couple left on Friday), and BF4 is calling me!

I'm soooo bad with the controller. LOL.

More than happy to flash my Edge and provide testing feedback...

Love your product, can't wait for beta.. did I mention that? ;)

Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: beansberry on 09:38 PM - 12/02/13
I hope that it will work with OSX and iOS using BT.  Assuming that the ST are downloaded/installed via BT.

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Post by: beansberry on 10:07 PM - 12/02/13
sorry about all the multiple posts.  they weret showing up!
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Post by: damstr on 10:22 PM - 12/02/13
Yeah definitely crossing fingers for iOS and OSX support.  I always had to dig up my old crappy laptop before to do anything software wise with the XIM3.
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Post by: ak-xs on 10:49 PM - 12/02/13
Yeah definitely crossing fingers for iOS and OSX support.  I always had to dig up my old crappy laptop before to do anything software wise with the XIM3.

you can 'virtualise' windows.. takes a couple of GBs but it's seamless...
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wunderdunce on 12:14 AM - 12/03/13
@ak-xs yep thats what I do. I run Windows 8 in VmWare Fusion and only run it when I need something that requires Windows.  Other than that OSX FTMFW   :P
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:38 AM - 12/03/13
if it was running OSX on windows it would be a nightmare but really one of the most usual things for OSX users is to do that and have not troubles with stuff that only works on "the other OS". i had never seen people that complained about something like this before. if it was something big or that you'd need on the main partition i'd understand perfectly ofc, but not the case at all..
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: BionicTbag on 08:53 AM - 12/03/13
No Edge / XIM3 on nextgens
ETA XIM4 Q1 2014
 
Then my XIM 3 is going up for sale!


XIM3 on ebay are going for $50USD, I paid $250.. I will be keeping mine just like I iwll be keeping all my games and my old xbox.


it was a mistake log ago when I sold my atari, and my nintendo @#$%.


keeping this expensive @#$% forever, cause you cant get back what you have  in it...


not to mention for all my @#$% games, I not only have the game, but the expansion packs too.. which cannot be sold...
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: BionicTbag on 08:54 AM - 12/03/13
@ak-xs yep thats what I do. I run Windows 8 in VmWare Fusion and only run it when I need something that requires Windows.  Other than that OSX FTMFW   :P


piss poor choice going with MAC-crapware. = for users that dont know how to think, just want to click and have stuff happen.




"I want to push the button" OR "water go down the hole"


(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110818234713/looneytunes/images/b/b5/Plucky-duck.jpg)



Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Long Duk Dong on 11:11 AM - 12/03/13
Hi all!

First off I'm excited like everyone else is for the Xim4. I read some where that the XIM4 will be made to work on "all 4 consoles." But that the PS4 version will take some time to get up and running. So my question is this: If we purchase the XIM4 when it releases to use with X1 and then when the PS4 version is available, will we (owners of the XIM4 for the X1) be able to install an update to be able to use the XIM4 with our PS4's? I hope I am not restating what has been asked and answered prior.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 02:50 PM - 12/03/13
So my question is this: If we purchase the XIM4 when it releases to use with X1 and then when the PS4 version is available, will we (owners of the XIM4 for the X1) be able to install an update to be able to use the XIM4 with our PS4's? I hope I am not restating what has been asked and answered prior.

Thanks!

hi, welcome. oh yes, that's a given.. it will be a Firmware update if it's release only for X1 at first. but to be honest i don't believe the XIM will be sold before PS4 support is achieved.

nice graf btw
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Long Duk Dong on 08:45 AM - 12/04/13
 hi, welcome. oh yes, that's a given.. it will be a Firmware update if it's release only for X1 at first. but to be honest i don't believe the XIM will be sold before PS4 support is achieved.

nice graf btw
[/quote]

Thanks! Next to playing games, graff is my favorite pastime.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Deadkrash on 11:49 AM - 12/04/13
Was just on a Xim competitors forum and they just said that their next Gen KBM solution is official dead on the PS4 due to sony encryption. So the competition is getting thinner. I really hope XIM can figure this out as the KBM options on the PS4 are becoming bleak..
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: aeo on 12:07 PM - 12/04/13
Source? Just curious if it was cronus?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: abc123 on 12:44 PM - 12/04/13
And this topic finally gets troll bombed...now it will be impossible to find information on it WOOHOO
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Deadkrash on 01:43 PM - 12/04/13
Source? Just curious if it was cronus?

No it was TUACT
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: b1indsight on 03:40 PM - 12/04/13
I believe this is the post for the source.

http://www.tuact.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=60&func=view&catid=10&id=11991&lang=en#12156
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Rambos_BFF on 05:59 PM - 12/04/13
I believe this is the post for the source.

http://www.tuact.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=60&func=view&catid=10&id=11991&lang=en#12156

Yep, they said they're giving up until 3rd party stuff comes out. They're going all out on the xb1.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: OBsIV on 07:20 PM - 12/04/13
3rd party meaning licensed wired controllers for PS4? If they are depending on that then it's likely the Xbox 360 model. Something we are going to avoid at all costs (i.e. making the customer buy another device to use our product).
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Deadkrash on 07:31 PM - 12/04/13
3rd party meaning licensed wired controllers for PS4? If they are depending on that then it's likely the Xbox 360 model. Something we are going to avoid at all costs (i.e. making the customer buy another device to use our product).

I hoping beyond hope that you can somehow figure out how to make me a new customer.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: willthetech on 10:13 AM - 12/05/13
3rd party meaning licensed wired controllers for PS4? If they are depending on that then it's likely the Xbox 360 model. Something we are going to avoid at all costs (i.e. making the customer buy another device to use our product).

@OBsIV..although I see ur point here and admired your loyalty to your customers, I am worry that this mindset somehow will hurt the PS4 users in this community. I am sure you will do anything possible to find a solution but at the same time, how long is too long? If the ps4 users can have XIM4 functionality by buying a third party device (if one is ever available of course), would you reconsider and allow this to happen? Better yet why not right away? Again not trying to be a Dbag here or demanding things but I know that if I have to buy the xim4 and something else to make it work…I would buy it no questions asks…
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:44 AM - 12/05/13
Sure, our USB passthrough is generic, so, if a 3rd party device comes out before we figure out wireless, then, we can add support easily. But, we'd continue to figure out wireless (and not requiring a 3rd party controller).
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: RML on 10:45 AM - 12/05/13
3rd party meaning licensed wired controllers for PS4? If they are depending on that then it's likely the Xbox 360 model. Something we are going to avoid at all costs (i.e. making the customer buy another device to use our product).

I hoping beyond hope that you can somehow figure out how to make me a new customer.

Thats easy, buy an Xbox!  :P

As far as Tuact goes they simply cant compete with XIM.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 10:58 AM - 12/05/13
OBsIV,

I know you said you aren't ready to release XIM4 for sales quite yet, but when do we get the announcement of what XIM4 actually is? I'd be surprised if you didn't have the features planned. I'd think at this point you'd just be finishing up what will be the XIM4.

Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:50 AM - 12/05/13
I don't like announcing something that I can't show. The difference between all talk/on-paper vs. actual working systems.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: metr0 on 12:09 PM - 12/05/13
I don't like announcing something that I can't show. The difference between all talk/on-paper vs. actual working systems.

everytime you post something i get a little excited.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Soulo on 12:51 PM - 12/05/13
I don't like announcing something that I can't show. The difference between all talk/on-paper vs. actual working systems.

everytime you post something i get a little excited.

HAHAHA At least I am not the only one!  :P
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mmatt123 on 01:30 PM - 12/05/13
Just been reading through all the info given,  im very interested in purchasing one of these im just wondering when they will be available?  Anytime of time scale?  before new year? early next year? or longer?

Thanks

Matt
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 01:33 PM - 12/05/13
read the topic :P

obsiv said he would be disappointed if the xim4 wasnt ready by Q1 2014, thats the only timeframe we have right now :)

i will delete your post later cause this topic should stay infos only
heres the discussion part of this topic

http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=29184.75;topicseen
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: lukemedway_uk on 01:40 PM - 12/05/13
Nothing is confirmed at the moment mate, it's all speculation.

As soon as it does come out though I'll be using the QuickDraw perk with my credit card!

A beta for the edge will be coming first though by the sounds of it, so if you already have this device then is expect this to come out soonish since it'll most likely just be software updates. I imagine following the testing they can get a good understanding of the requirements for each of the consoles and then build the final xim4 device!

It's totally unclear at this time though, as I say... It's all speculation!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: R3MiX on 12:35 AM - 12/06/13
I don't like announcing something that I can't show. The difference between all talk/on-paper vs. actual working systems.

everytime you post something i get a little excited.


+1
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Mallez on 10:32 AM - 12/06/13
Sure, our USB passthrough is generic, so, if a 3rd party device comes out before we figure out wireless, then, we can add support easily. But, we'd continue to figure out wireless (and not requiring a 3rd party controller).

I'd just like to say that even "if" there was generic 3rd party support enabled for mouse and keyboard, I'd still support OBsIV as you won't get the added benefits of the quick change profiles, the tuning functionality, etc.

I hope everyone waits and supports OBsIV and XIM vs going to competitors (and wait for Beta and Xim4 like I'm going to do :).  Even if they come out with something quicker, it's clear they are working on Xim4 beta heavily.

I'm also drooling for beta and waiting with quick-draw CC for beta testing hub order and eventual Xim4 for X1.

XIM is the only product that allows me to enjoy my consoles :).  As a fan of BF and MW series (and an old dog with M/KB), XIM has reinvigorated my need for non-hacking 1st person shooters (on console).  PC is dead to me now due to the "less" cheating on consoles.

<new X1 console owner that is still using his 360 more due to XIM ! LOL>

I'd also like to thank OBsIV and the other admins/moderators for keeping active on the threads.  It's great to see the support!

And yes, I too am twitching waiting for beta and playing 64 player madness on BF4 ;).

Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Boltman on 12:07 PM - 12/06/13
I'd just like to say that even "if" there was generic 3rd party support enabled for mouse and keyboard, I'd still support OBsIV as you won't get the added benefits of the quick change profiles, the tuning functionality, etc.

I hope everyone waits and supports OBsIV and XIM vs going to competitors (and wait for Beta and Xim4 like I'm going to do :).  Even if they come out with something quicker, it's clear they are working on Xim4 beta heavily.

I'm also drooling for beta and waiting with quick-draw CC for beta testing hub order and eventual Xim4 for X1.

XIM is the only product that allows me to enjoy my consoles :).  As a fan of BF and MW series (and an old dog with M/KB), XIM has reinvigorated my need for non-hacking 1st person shooters (on console).  PC is dead to me now due to the "less" cheating on consoles.

<new X1 console owner that is still using his 360 more due to XIM ! LOL>

I'd also like to thank OBsIV and the other admins/moderators for keeping active on the threads.  It's great to see the support!

And yes, I too am twitching waiting for beta and playing 64 player madness on BF4 ;).

Nice post & well said Mallez and Welcome!

Even though I'm sure you've been lurking these forums well before your 3 posts hehe.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Mallez on 12:29 PM - 12/06/13

[/quote]

Nice post & well said Mallez and Welcome!

Even though I'm sure you've been lurking these forums well before your 3 posts hehe.
[/quote]

Thanks for the welcome!

Yes, I've lurked for a short time before I bought an Edge.  I only picked up an X1 when my friend txt'd me from the line at Target on Black Friday "Hey, in line at target, they have a couple of Xbox 1s left, and I can get you one.  Picking it up for you". He already preordered his, and I still hadn't closed with my business manager (i.e. wife) my "need" for an X1!  He wanted friends to play Xbone with, but I really can't do it with the controller :P.

It also took me awhile to have a non Hotmail account to register with :P. 

Yes, I am going to wait for the Beta and Xim4 (as painful as it's been with the xbone just sitting there. LOL).

I think it's a great product, and boy o boy it's going to be hard not having the beta for the Xmas break around work :P.

Will just have to play on the 360 I guess :P. 

XIM is an awesome product, that really is pushing me away from the PC.  I hope everyone waits and supports XIM.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Zenigame96 on 12:36 PM - 12/06/13
I think it's a great product, and boy o boy it's going to be hard not having the beta for the Xmas break around work :P.

Will just have to play on the 360 I guess :P. 

Maybe I'm being too hopeful but I'm holding my breath hoping that the beta will be before Christmas... Ironically I don't get a Christmas break this year (aside from the actual holiday) because I already used all my PTO... I just really want a reason to actually use my XBONE. Hahaha
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 12:55 PM - 12/06/13
I was thinking the beta would start right around Christmas/New Year.  If Obsiv is hoping to have the Xim4 out by Q1 of 2014, the beta should be coming real soon.  They'll need a little time to collect and process all the positive/negative data.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Kevin-D-Lee on 01:09 PM - 12/06/13
I don't visit and / or post on these boards often but I am a XIM 3 owner, I cannot wait for the XIM 4! 

Being a disabled gamer (Cerebral Palsy) the XIM 3 increased not only my performance but my enjoyment on the last generation of consoles.  I can play on a controller... however M/K works so much better for me on a level you guys may not be able to properly visualize.  Keep up the good work, I look forward to spending $150 on the XIM 4 in Q1 2014

Sadly I do not have the XIM Edge, good luck testing guys!  I'll check in more often.

Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Au1d Yin on 02:16 PM - 12/06/13
I don't visit and / or post on these boards often but I am a XIM 3 owner, I cannot wait for the XIM 4! 

Being a disabled gamer (Cerebral Palsy) the XIM 3 increased not only my performance but my enjoyment on the last generation of consoles.  I can play on a controller... however M/K works so much better for me on a level you guys may not be able to properly visualize.  Keep up the good work, I look forward to spending $150 on the XIM 4 in Q1 2014

Sadly I do not have the XIM Edge, good luck testing guys!  I'll check in more often.


This post for me speaks volumes about the Xim that OBsIV invented ... it is much much more than a bit of kit you can use to own console players.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 03:42 PM - 12/06/13
I don't visit and / or post on these boards often but I am a XIM 3 owner, I cannot wait for the XIM 4! 

Being a disabled gamer (Cerebral Palsy) the XIM 3 increased not only my performance but my enjoyment on the last generation of consoles.  I can play on a controller... however M/K works so much better for me on a level you guys may not be able to properly visualize.  Keep up the good work, I look forward to spending $150 on the XIM 4 in Q1 2014

Sadly I do not have the XIM Edge, good luck testing guys!  I'll check in more often.


This post for me speaks volumes about the Xim that OBsIV invented ... it is much much more than a bit of kit you can use to own console players.

A real good friend of mine has a birth defect which caused him to hardly have any use of his right arm (he has other problems as well).  He has control of a few fingers so with help from the Xim, he can use a mouse to aim/shoot with.  He couldn't use a controller because of the multiple buttons.  He used to pc game (that's how we met 15 years ago) but he always preferred consoles for their simplicity.  He's very excited for the Xim4 as well.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Kevin-D-Lee on 06:26 PM - 12/06/13
I don't visit and / or post on these boards often but I am a XIM 3 owner, I cannot wait for the XIM 4! 

Being a disabled gamer (Cerebral Palsy) the XIM 3 increased not only my performance but my enjoyment on the last generation of consoles.  I can play on a controller... however M/K works so much better for me on a level you guys may not be able to properly visualize.  Keep up the good work, I look forward to spending $150 on the XIM 4 in Q1 2014

Sadly I do not have the XIM Edge, good luck testing guys!  I'll check in more often.


This post for me speaks volumes about the Xim that OBsIV invented ... it is much much more than a bit of kit you can use to own console players.

I noticed earlier in the discussion that someone had mentioned that the built-in M/K support console is basic at best, I completely agree and would never trust a developer to understand my needs.  On top of being a disabled gamer I am left handed, I have never seen a console game that supports K/M allow users to remap the controls on the keyboard so that lefties like myself could play comfortably.  The XIM 3 (Soon 4) allows me to customize my experience as much or as little as I want and THAT is what truly sets this product apart from the other M/K adapters out there.

I hope you guys work fast, always remember your device has the ability to make a big difference in the lives of those of us who are either born different or so happen to suffer through an accident.  It means a lot to us that we are being provided a tool that allows us to play games as naturally as we possibly can.


Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 11:03 PM - 12/06/13
if you guys want to help just email/contact big major games news sites and tell them about XIM and for them to make an article about it. tell them your story so others like you who may still not know about the XIM can improve their lives.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: alexpantazis on 09:37 AM - 12/08/13
Thanks for keeping at the XIM4 so quickly. I understand that the PS4 functionality will take longer but am anxious as everyone else.  Can't wait to buy one and get back to being competitive.  Love the PS4 and the controller but my FPS stats are horrific right now.  I just reached a new High K/D ratio of 0.28 using the controller HA!

Come on XIM4 for PS4!

Thanks again for all your hard work on this!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: metr0 on 11:48 AM - 12/08/13
maybe we will hear something about the beta this week. it will be funny how quiet this forum gets once xim4 is released.

...maybe obsiv is holding back on the beta release to keep traffic up...its a conspiracy
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: kbelch79 on 02:07 PM - 12/08/13
Corect me if I'm wrong here but if the beta for the Edge comes out and then you start to ship XIM4 will you stop the support for the Edge too Xbox one? I only ask because i see two way for  Xim to make money. One is to have a one time upgrade price to keep up dating the Edge and the other to sale new Xim4's.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 02:22 PM - 12/08/13
Corect me if I'm wrong here but if the beta for the Edge comes out and then you start to ship XIM4 will you stop the support for the Edge too Xbox one? I only ask because i see two way for  Xim to make money. One is to have a one time upgrade price to keep up dating the Edge and the other to sale new Xim4's.

It was made clear on the Xim4 (sticky thread) that once the beta is over, the edge will no longer be supported for the new consoles.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: helpmeout on 07:45 AM - 12/09/13
Corect me if I'm wrong here but if the beta for the Edge comes out and then you start to ship XIM4 will you stop the support for the Edge too Xbox one? I only ask because i see two way for  Xim to make money. One is to have a one time upgrade price to keep up dating the Edge and the other to sale new Xim4's.

It was made clear on the Xim4 (sticky thread) that once the beta is over, the edge will no longer be supported for the new consoles.

I just want to know , how will they STOP the support for the Edge once xim4 is released? I mean how does the software just STOP working if you dont hook it up the the cpu?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: OMGsus on 08:03 AM - 12/09/13
It won't necessarily stop working, but we won't support it. There are  features that are going into the next XIM that edge (or any other adapter for that matter) wont be even technically capable of matching. So all this talk about others being first... Getting our existing hardware working on next gen consoles isn't the issue, so "first" is debatable. We chose to use more capable hardware for ease of use and power with new features using the unmatched and often aped translations. Making it great with awesome features on more capable hardware takes a little time.

In any case, we are excited for anyone getting past the connectivity hurdle with the next gen consoles. The sooner the better for all.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 09:24 AM - 12/09/13
its very ironic that if anyone actually breaks the issues at hand that is not XIM first it will be OBsIV's time to ride on other's work. most of what is out there today has used the things OBsIV was first to discover. it's only fair that they do some of the heavy lifting this time once in history...

and there are some devices that are pretty close to what XIM2 did or at least work well for COD, but they are no where close to being as versatile and user friendly as the XIM. these 2 factors move WHOLE INDUSTRIES. look at the iPhone for one, or the iPad for that matter.. MS and others had that YEARS before Apple, yet because of user unfriendliness and some other minor reasons they meant nothing and Apple took Billions. people choose iOS because of user friendliness vs andoid to this day. people buy consoles because it's plug and play, not just because they are cheap, consoles would be doomed by now if they were just cheaper gamingPCs as that gap is starting to disappear.

TLDR
what's the point of XIM Edge supporting PS4/xbone if you lack STs to the games except Ghosts and BF4, and you have no standardTranslators? ?

bf4 may be around for 2 years, but everybody knows Ghosts will die in a couple of months and a new COD will take its place. that for people that only game a single FPS in their consoles..
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: metr0 on 09:24 AM - 12/09/13
so if the edge is not technically able to offer the new features of xim4 and you guys have it working for xbox one already why not release it now?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 09:27 AM - 12/09/13
so if the edge is not technically able to offer the new features of xim4 and you guys have it working for xbox one already why not release it now?

 ::)

i think we need an infographic or drawing of some kind to answer that in a way you will be pleased with.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: metr0 on 09:59 AM - 12/09/13
so if the edge is not technically able to offer the new features of xim4 and you guys have it working for xbox one already why not release it now?

 ::)

i think we need an infographic or drawing of some kind to answer that in a way you will be pleased with.

how soon do you think the infograph or drawing will be released?  ;D
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 10:16 AM - 12/09/13
LOL GG well played sir!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: xMetuZx on 05:19 PM - 12/13/13

I'm gaming with XIM4 right now on Xbox One and we are close to finishing up the last piece (wireless config). We will be able to give an estimate at the end of this week.


Looks like we will have more info at the end of the week.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/66/Iffem_shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: DuckBlind on 04:09 PM - 12/15/13
Where are these quotes coming from. Is there an irc channel?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 04:13 PM - 12/15/13
Where are these quotes coming from. Is there an irc channel?

You're question is going to be deleted as will this response as this is only an update sticky.  Most are from quotes taken from post replies and some are from pm's.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 04:20 PM - 12/15/13
At the same time I'll be stressing XIM4 for days with our "input monkeys" (Edges modified to generate non-stop random input). The point is that you all need high quality even though this is a "Beta".

I'm very ignorant when it comes to tech talk.  Can somebody translate this for me?......lol.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 05:02 PM - 12/15/13
Where are these quotes coming from. Is there an irc channel?

We're getting small snippets of information leading up the the official announcement. When that happens it will be detailed, clear, and easy to find. In the meantime if you keep active on the forum you can find these snippets, or just follow this thread and the community will post them.


At the same time I'll be stressing XIM4 for days with our "input monkeys" (Edges modified to generate non-stop random input). The point is that you all need high quality even though this is a "Beta".

I'm very ignorant when it comes to tech talk.  Can somebody translate this for me?......lol.

He's using a macro that continuously "uses" a set of Edges to test for stability.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Boltman on 08:57 PM - 12/15/13
So does this mean the xim4 will be announced tomorrow?

Quote
Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)

I know, it's hard to read and understand.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: black dynamite on 10:21 PM - 12/15/13
Sweet
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: deadmaninc on 12:47 PM - 12/16/13
Will the Xim4E or XIM4 for that matter also support the previous-gen consoles?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: r2d2 on 12:53 PM - 12/16/13
What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 12:53 PM - 12/16/13
XIM4 yes
XIM4E dont know, we will have to see


edit: mist loves to split topics eh? :P
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: user1986 on 10:20 PM - 12/18/13
So how will XIM4 work in general for the PS4, will it have some sort of bluetooth stick too? I didn't get it. What will XIM4 have to do with Bluetooth in the PS4?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:31 PM - 12/18/13
That info is unknown at this point. When that has been commented on it will be include in the info thread.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 04:02 PM - 12/19/13
Being the prototype xim4 has been confirmed working on the xbone.  Could the Xim team please release which USB bluetooth adapters are compatible so we can buy (or order) one?  It would be greatly appreciated.  That way we're not potentially having to wait another 2-5 days once the beta is released.

I'm guessing the beta is in the alpha stage (if that makes sense ???) right now........lol.  I'm not whining about when the beta will be released.  I just want to be prepared for it whenever it is.  8)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: lukemedway_uk on 05:01 AM - 12/20/13
To be honest I can see why they might not divulge the info right now. They're doing testing remember so if they say to people that x adapter works and then hit a snag further down the line, that would no doubt piss a lot of people off if it meant having to get a different adapter.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 06:04 AM - 12/20/13
To be honest I can see why they might not divulge the info right now. They're doing testing remember so if they say to people that x adapter works and then hit a snag further down the line, that would no doubt piss a lot of people off if it meant having to get a different adapter.

If this is the case, then yes it is understandable. I was thinking the bluetooth was more of a black/white scenario where either it communicates or it doesn't.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: hawesome45 on 10:24 AM - 12/20/13
Thanks again for all the hard work on the XIM Next gen compatibility. Any news when a BETA will be released for the current XIM3 on Xbone? I'm willing and ready to a a test dummy.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: GuNStArHeRo on 10:32 AM - 12/20/13
Thanks again for all the hard work on the XIM Next gen compatibility. Any news when a BETA will be released for the current XIM3 on Xbone? I'm willing and ready to a a test dummy.

Thanks!

XIM3 doesn't get beta support fro next gen consoles.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: NinjaX2 on 11:04 AM - 12/20/13
Info thread, not a Q&A :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:18 AM - 12/20/13
Pre title change and merge. Come on give me some credit.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 11:41 AM - 12/20/13
Pre title change and merge. Come on give me some credit.

your new best toy - split topics ;)
especially with the "what we know topic" haha
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: yesterday on 12:28 PM - 12/20/13
Jonesing for this beta...
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: NY Dynasty on 05:05 AM - 12/21/13
I just got my XB1 and not planning on buying BF4 until XIM4 comes out.  Plus, heard a lot of issues with the game anyway so why rush it...
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 05:14 AM - 12/21/13
I just got my XB1 and not planning on buying BF4 until XIM4 comes out.  Plus, heard a lot of issues with the game anyway so why rush it...

what exactly do you suppose "This is an info thread. Not a Q&A" means? just curious. if you think personal info is the type that the thread was made for you are interpreting it wrong. this is strickly for displaying info about XIM4 in one place so people can easily keep track. comments like yours ruin it and only make the mods have to keep doing babysitter work, just so you know.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 08:25 AM - 12/21/13
dont worry ak, mist is not the only one who can split/merge topics  8) :P
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: bradmiller705 on 09:36 AM - 12/21/13
I just got my XB1 and not planning on buying BF4 until XIM4 comes out.  Plus, heard a lot of issues with the game anyway so why rush it...

what exactly do you suppose "This is an info thread. Not a Q&A" means? just curious. if you think personal info is the type that the thread was made for you are interpreting it wrong. this is strickly for displaying info about XIM4 in one place so people can easily keep track. comments like yours ruin it and only make the mods have to keep doing babysitter work, just so you know.
This is not the "This is an info thread. Not a Q&A" thread. This is the one labeled  "What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)". Think your in the wrong one buddy, lol.   But either way guess his comment was off topic.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 10:04 AM - 12/21/13

Jumping the gun a little are we ak?  Just relax.  Even if he posted in the wrong section one of the moderators will move it.  It's what they are here for.  It's really none of your concern anyway.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 10:05 AM - 12/21/13
its not aks fault, the initial posts were done in the "dont post" topic
i just took them and transfered them into this topic so i dont need to delete them :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 10:15 AM - 12/21/13
its not aks fault, the initial posts were done in the "dont post" topic
i just took them and transfered them into this topic so i dont need to delete them :)

Oh ok  :-[.  It still isn't his concern though.  :P
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: cornf13x on 12:25 PM - 12/21/13
I have a question about the Xim Edge Beta firmware....Which wired controller will it require be hooked to the Edge, a wired Xbox 360 controller,  or a wired XB1 controller?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: sabry68120 on 12:30 PM - 12/21/13
when a beta?  ;D
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 12:31 PM - 12/21/13
I have a question about the Xim Edge Beta firmware....Which wired controller will it require be hooked to the Edge, a wired Xbox 360 controller,  or a wired XB1 controller?

most likely the Xbox One controller
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Choo on 12:43 PM - 12/21/13
Will the XIM4 be out by Titanfall release??
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Soulo on 12:44 PM - 12/21/13
You know you can just click on Obsivs name and then click show posts and within a couple of minutes of reading you all will have the same amount of info we all do without asking the same questions over and over.  That's the quickest way to find your own answers. Just an fyi
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: cornf13x on 06:21 PM - 12/21/13
How long after the big announcement on Monday before I'm able to play with Kb&M on my Xim Edge on the XB1?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 06:26 PM - 12/21/13
I'm sure that's the question we would all like to know!
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 06:53 PM - 12/21/13
I'm willing to bet that question will be answered on Monday as well.  :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 06:59 PM - 12/21/13
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/2823363.jpg)
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: sabry68120 on 04:09 AM - 12/22/13
I hope Monday I want more
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Matteo91to on 08:57 PM - 12/22/13
What u think about the price of the new xim?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Kevin-D-Lee on 09:13 PM - 12/22/13
What u think about the price of the new xim?

I don't think they've announced a price, though they've been saying no more than $150
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: modwarfare on 09:57 PM - 12/22/13
likely 149.99 although anything below that would be just a bonus

at least that is what he said before xim3 came out and it was 149.99
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 10:14 PM - 12/22/13
LOL i really hope we are getting like a $100-120 price tag this go'round.

screen was supposed to be the main reason for 3's heavy price. given there are now smartphones for less than 100 bucks and lot of processing power, memory,all the radios and a bunch of more stuff it really puzzles me that a XIM4 can be so expensive. it needs to cover quite more than just the cost though, the profit margin has to be high...
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: AusRED5 on 10:15 PM - 12/22/13
It all depends on what kind of setup and components he uses.
XIM3 has a digital display... making it costly.

Either way, I'll be buying.
The cost is WELL WORTH the price! ;)
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: d13unholy on 10:22 PM - 12/22/13
39 minutes until monday.... lol
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Timmie3054 on 10:23 PM - 12/22/13
39 minutes until monday.... lol

I assume it will be like the XIM Edge with no screen, but have the option to use a smart phone connected via bluetooth to do your configurations.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: RML on 10:36 PM - 12/22/13
What u think about the price of the new xim?

$99.   <------- (this is completely false)

$10.00 rebate if you post a video on Youtube of you cursing while smashing a CronusMax!

^
(a blatant lie)
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Loki on 08:40 AM - 12/23/13
It all depends on what kind of setup and components he uses.
XIM3 has a digital display... making it costly.

Either way, I'll be buying.
The cost is WELL WORTH the price! ;)

+1x?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 08:51 AM - 12/23/13
my guess is that the price will be lower than 100$
its sort of a sonic barrier for customers, 99,95$ is my guess
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: xbladr on 09:18 AM - 12/23/13
I agree with Od1n it would be difficult to sell over 100 I would think as a peripheral add on at this stage. I think everyone will see the sub 100 and be pumped if you get over that 99.99 number people start to question spending it.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 09:25 AM - 12/23/13
I'm hoping that along with the XIM 4 annoucement we also get a heads up on what bluetooth adapters are compatible. The beta following a couple days after that.

Today is the day!
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 09:27 AM - 12/23/13
Yeah we do need a BT approved list.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Vad1m Ukra1ne on 09:31 AM - 12/23/13
Wait XIM4 comes without buid in Bluetooth? Correct me please if I'm wrong
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: coldrushy on 09:40 AM - 12/23/13
My understanding is that you'll need a BT adapter for the BETA. The XIM4, I believe, will be packaged with BT functionality already incorporated.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 09:41 AM - 12/23/13
I don't think the Bluetooth will be built into the XIM4 but rather come with the adapter.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: coldrushy on 09:44 AM - 12/23/13
Interesting. So it will be packaged with a separate adapter? Wouldn't it just be easier to build in BT functionality -- especially given that production is not underway yet?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Fade2Blak on 09:48 AM - 12/23/13
I am pretty sure BT is built in because he said if you have a computer that is BT capable now then you will not need an adapter for the Beta.  The full info will be released sometime today.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 09:49 AM - 12/23/13
Interesting. So it will be packaged with a separate adapter? Wouldn't it just be easier to build in BT functionality -- especially given that production is not underway yet?

This is a quote from Obsiv so maybe you are correct in saying that it will have BT built in. How else would the XIM4 talk to the BT adapter connected to the PC if it didn't have it built in right?

XIM4 will ship with a BT adapter in the event that your PC doesn't have BT. For the Beta, yes, you'll need to pick up additional hardware to participate.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 09:51 AM - 12/23/13
I am pretty sure BT is built in because he said if you have a computer that is BT capable now then you will not need an adapter for the Beta.  The full info will be released sometime today.
Regaurdless you will NEED to buy an adapter (along with a USB hub) for the XIME Beta this has already been confirmed. XIM Edge definitely doesn't have BT built into it so it has to communicate somehow and we already know that its not going to be through USB.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 09:53 AM - 12/23/13
The full info will be released sometime today.

I hope we get a detailed video.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Fade2Blak on 09:55 AM - 12/23/13
I am pretty sure BT is built in because he said if you have a computer that is BT capable now then you will not need an adapter for the Beta.  The full info will be released sometime today.
Regaurdless you will NEED to buy an adapter (along with a USB hub) for the XIME Beta this has already been confirmed. XIM Edge definitely doesn't have BT built into it so it has to communicate somehow and we already know that its not going to be through USB.
  He asked about the XIM4, not the Beta. 
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: coldrushy on 09:58 AM - 12/23/13
Interesting. So it will be packaged with a separate adapter? Wouldn't it just be easier to build in BT functionality -- especially given that production is not underway yet?

This is a quote from Obsiv so maybe you are correct in saying that it will have BT built in. How else would the XIM4 talk to the BT adapter connected to the PC if it didn't have it built in right?

XIM4 will ship with a BT adapter in the event that your PC doesn't have BT. For the Beta, yes, you'll need to pick up additional hardware to participate.

Thanks for the quote. Yeah, after reading that, I can see how someone would think a separate adapter would be included with the XIM4 rather than built in. Seems kind of odd to be separate, but maybe he didn't anticipate the PS4 issue and so the XIM4 prototype was already designed without BT? Maybe it's easier for him just to buy bulk BT adapters and throw them in with the XIM4 rather than circling back to include it as a built in feature. I guess as long as its included in some type of form or fashion it really doesn't matter....
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: coldrushy on 10:00 AM - 12/23/13
I am pretty sure BT is built in because he said if you have a computer that is BT capable now then you will not need an adapter for the Beta.  The full info will be released sometime today.
Regaurdless you will NEED to buy an adapter (along with a USB hub) for the XIME Beta this has already been confirmed. XIM Edge definitely doesn't have BT built into it so it has to communicate somehow and we already know that its not going to be through USB.
  He asked about the XIM4, not the Beta.

Right. So I think for the BETA, you will need to buy some sort of BT adaptor. For XIM4, it sounds like BT capabilities are being provided in some sort of form or fashion (ie, built in or included adaptor).
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Fade2Blak on 10:01 AM - 12/23/13
The full info will be released sometime today.

I hope we get a detailed video.
  If ObSiv keeps to past form, we will have a red carpet roll out.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 10:06 AM - 12/23/13
Where I'm from it's Tuesday morning, when was OBsIV believed to bring some news, was it Monday evening his time or just sometime during his Monday?

Not trying to be an @#$%, just wondering if I should go to bed or stay awake a little longer for the news.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 10:07 AM - 12/23/13
All I know is I'm refreshing this site like an addict haha
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Fade2Blak on 10:16 AM - 12/23/13
Where I'm from it's Tuesday morning, when was OBsIV believed to bring some news, was it Monday evening his time or just sometime during his Monday?

Not trying to be an @#$%, just wondering if I should go to bed or stay awake a little longer for the news.
  If you go to bed it will be like Christmas morning when you wake up because the site will surely have been updated by then.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Boltman on 10:53 AM - 12/23/13
Where I'm from it's Tuesday morning, when was OBsIV believed to bring some news, was it Monday evening his time or just sometime during his Monday?

Not trying to be an @#$%, just wondering if I should go to bed or stay awake a little longer for the news.

Where are you?

It is early Monday morning here in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Zenigame96 on 11:08 AM - 12/23/13
Where I'm from it's Tuesday morning, when was OBsIV believed to bring some news, was it Monday evening his time or just sometime during his Monday?

Not trying to be an @#$%, just wondering if I should go to bed or stay awake a little longer for the news.
  If you go to bed it will be like Christmas morning when you wake up because the site will surely have been updated by then.

Based on the following post from OBsIV I'd be surprised if we see anything in the next few hours:

Everyone, I apologize for the delay. Over the next couple of days, you'll see the site start changing around with items about XIM4. Followed up by Monday night with a dev blog update with a video many details about XIM4. We are still working on the Beta -- we are hurrying, believe me. :)

Get some sleep and enjoy the spoils of new info when you awake/shortly thereafter!
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 11:26 AM - 12/23/13
I would think it's gonna be late in the afternoon sometime.  I hope not to late tho.  If the beta info. is released (which I don't think is going to happen) I would like to know early enough so I can go buy the needed periphials to make it work.  I'm not going to be home tomorrow and of course nothing is open on Christmas.  :)
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 12:00 PM - 12/23/13

Where are you?

It is early Monday morning here in Los Angeles.

Melbourne, Australia.

It's currently 5AM as I post this on Tuesday the 24th of December.

...I'm going to bed because there is still 4-8 hours before OBsIV posts the news.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: sabry68120 on 03:36 PM - 12/23/13
no firmware xim edge ?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: Uber Pooch on 04:23 PM - 01/14/14
There will be a lot of information flying around once the beta starts. I know everyone is anxious about it. mist already has a build and has reported a lot of good bugs. Orbital is working through a couple BT connection issues with the phone. Once he is done I'll pass another build to mist (likely tonight, maybe tomorrow). Based on his feedback, I'll then forward to the Alpha testers.

Relative time frame update.

Can you clarify "relative". Is this still on target for a Q1 release date? This sounds like they're behind schedule with only about two months left in the timeline.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: cornf13x on 04:26 PM - 01/17/14
I think this has been answered ..but I want to confirm. When the XIMEdge beta drops, are we going to need a BT adapter to use it? If so, can we at least know which BT adapter to get? I don't want to screw around when that beta drops, I want to play.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:35 PM - 01/17/14
I don't want people to buy something (BT adapters) if we find out there is an issue. Alpha testers bought them and are starting test them. I promise to let everyone know what they need as soon as I can. If all goes well, it'll be next week.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Zacharybinx34 on 05:00 PM - 01/17/14
I don't want people to buy something (BT adapters) if we find out there is an issue. Alpha testers bought them and are starting test them. I promise to let everyone know what they need as soon as I can. If all goes well, it'll be next week.

You the man!


Sorry, I am sure the constant questions get old when you are working as fast as you can, but could you take a minute to talk about how you expect getting the enclosure and assembly line (w/e it's called) in operation faster this time than what went wrong with the XIM3.

I think for a lot of us who have been around pre-XIM3, we are worried that this could end up Q2+ before we have hands on an actual XIM4 unit - and being one who doesn't have a XIM Edge, that would be a pretty major bummer.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: bcall on 07:05 PM - 01/17/14
I don't want people to buy something (BT adapters) if we find out there is an issue. Alpha testers bought them and are starting test them. I promise to let everyone know what they need as soon as I can. If all goes well, it'll be next week.

Guess it's going to be a long weekend for us would be beta testers. :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: litnin on 03:00 PM - 01/20/14
So what exactly will the beta be? Is it just a software/firmware update for the ximedge or is there some hardware involved?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 04:05 PM - 01/20/14
So what exactly will the beta be? Is it just a software/firmware update for the ximedge or is there some hardware involved?

Both.  We'll get the firmware update for the edge when the beta is officially released.  Testers will need to buy a bluetooth adapter and USB hub on their own.  We should find out which BT adapters are compatible in the near future.  An android OS phone is preferred but you can use a pc to make configs. to your edge.  You can find out more info. here.

http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=29121.0
Title: Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: lukemedway_uk on 07:17 AM - 01/21/14
So what exactly will the beta be? Is it just a software/firmware update for the ximedge or is there some hardware involved?

Both.  We'll get the firmware update for the edge when the beta is officially released.  Testers will need to buy a bluetooth adapter and USB hub on their own.  We should find out which BT adapters are compatible in the near future.  An android OS phone is preferred but you can use a pc to make configs. to your edge.  You can find out more info. here.

http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=29121.0

Any advice on which USB hub to go for?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 08:06 AM - 01/21/14
a powered USB hub should do the trick. any model should work without issue but if you want to be cautious just wait for official recommendations as they will come in due time before the beta arrives or simultaneously.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 10:46 AM - 01/21/14
I bought a powered USB hub but OBsiv said he was confident power consumption was low enough that a powered hub isn't needed.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:05 PM - 01/21/14
I bought a powered USB hub but OBsiv said he was confident power consumption was low enough that a powered hub isn't needed.

true. 95% of mice and keyboard setups don't need a powered hub, but since most of those (powered hubs) will run without power just fine and the price difference is so low can't hurt to cover all bases which is why i made such recommendation.

my setup has xmas lights and donut makers so i have had the need for a powered solution for XIMing in the past  ;D
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: nataku_0 on 04:28 PM - 01/22/14
Question:
How long will production take? I mean the physical encasing and packaging of the XIM4? Just seems like it might take a while to get that going after Beta is done...March being right around the corner, is this totally doable? I'm just genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 04:33 PM - 01/22/14
Keep in mind, they don't have to wait for the beta to conclude to produce the production hardware. They can produce a bunch of hardware and then flash the golden master of the software to it later.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: nataku_0 on 07:03 PM - 01/22/14
Keep in mind, they don't have to wait for the beta to conclude to produce the production hardware. They can produce a bunch of hardware and then flash the golden master of the software to it later.

I see, so really everything can be set in terms of design, even though the software isn't. Hope Obsiv and co. have already started it....
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 07:35 PM - 01/22/14
Keep in mind, they don't have to wait for the beta to conclude to produce the production hardware. They can produce a bunch of hardware and then flash the golden master of the software to it later.

I see, so really everything can be set in terms of design, even though the software isn't. Hope Obsiv and co. have already started it....

he said he was starting this week or something iirc..
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: 3MIX_Edge on 10:52 PM - 01/23/14
Any real ides on what BT adapter we'll need for the beta?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 11:18 PM - 01/23/14
I heard we might not need a hub after all?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 11:37 PM - 01/23/14
I heard we might not need a hub after all?

where did you hear that?

you will need a hub if you want to use the BT functionality since you will need 4 USB devices for that and XIMEdge only has 3 USB ports...........
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wunderdunce on 11:54 PM - 01/23/14
Someone asked about Bluetooth again? I think this is a Unicorn we can safely let die.   ;D


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Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:57 AM - 01/24/14
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Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: stason40 on 06:06 AM - 01/24/14
I wanted to know "XIM4Beta" make new opportunities for the Xbox360?
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Od1n on 07:56 AM - 01/24/14
I wanted to know "XIM4Beta" make new opportunities for the Xbox360?

there will be all the xim4 features in the beta so yes there are new opportunities
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: wunderdunce on 06:58 PM - 01/24/14
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Title: Re: What we know about next gen XIM (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: Long Duk Dong on 11:43 AM - 01/28/14
Great news on the beta... not so much on the BT's.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Penitus Oculatus on 12:03 PM - 01/28/14
Beta is ready just need the @#$% BT adapters!

k-crip, I apologize if there were members of the community confusing things concerning release. The Beta is ready. The issue is finding a reliable source of Bluetooth adapters for exiting Edge owners so that can test out the XIM4 firmware. There are a couple of vendors on Amazon with compatible $10 adapters (with Prime shipping) -- which is great. But, the quality/stability of these adapters are terrible. I'd say 1 out of 4 either outright don't work or fail to initialize often. We are trying to locate a better source of Bluetooth adapters for the Beta.

Yes, the retail Edge hardware has never changed.

Are BT adapters absolutely necessary to participate in the beta? Can we still connect via USB to a computer and edit it there? Because I don't have an Android device in my house except for my mother's phone, anyways.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: haspko39 on 12:25 PM - 01/28/14
Beta is ready just need the @#$% BT adapters!

k-crip, I apologize if there were members of the community confusing things concerning release. The Beta is ready. The issue is finding a reliable source of Bluetooth adapters for exiting Edge owners so that can test out the XIM4 firmware. There are a couple of vendors on Amazon with compatible $10 adapters (with Prime shipping) -- which is great. But, the quality/stability of these adapters are terrible. I'd say 1 out of 4 either outright don't work or fail to initialize often. We are trying to locate a better source of Bluetooth adapters for the Beta.

Yes, the retail Edge hardware has never changed.

Are BT adapters absolutely necessary to participate in the beta? Can we still connect via USB to a computer and edit it there? Because I don't have an Android device in my house except for my mother's phone, anyways.

Agree. Maybe it is much better to let users find the best BT adaptors during beta and share here to create a compability list. This would be faster and reliable.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 12:32 PM - 01/28/14

Agree. Maybe it is much better to let users find the best BT adaptors during beta and share here to create a compability list. This would be faster and reliable.


Disagree. The average user has no idea how to appropriately do hardware compatibility checks or produce sane debugging/testing processes. Letting users just go buy whatever and try to confirm compatibility would be nothing but a giant cluster.

You'd have tons of people claiming compatibility for buggy hardware that only works in certain circumstances and plenty of people on the opposite side claiming something doesn't work when the problem is just user error.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:32 PM - 01/28/14
Are BT adapters absolutely necessary to participate in the beta? Can we still connect via USB to a computer and edit it there? Because I don't have an Android device in my house except for my mother's phone, anyways.

no.
yes.

use your mothers phone when you can. it is worth it to do so. when you can't forget about it.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:34 PM - 01/28/14
Disagree. The average user has no idea how to appropriately do hardware compatibility checks or produce sane debugging/testing processes. Letting users just go buy whatever and try to confirm compatibility would be nothing but a giant cluster.

You'd have tons of people claiming compatibility for buggy hardware that only works in certain circumstances and plenty of people on the opposite side claiming something doesn't work when the problem is just user error.

you forgot FU*K after "cluster".

and i couldn't agree more with you.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 12:35 PM - 01/28/14
One of the reasons for having the beta is to test it's new features across a wide array of devices. If you were to not use the BT function your contribution would be limited.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: haspko39 on 12:39 PM - 01/28/14

Agree. Maybe it is much better to let users find the best BT adaptors during beta and share here to create a compability list. This would be faster and reliable.


Disagree. The average user has no idea how to appropriately do hardware compatibility checks or produce sane debugging/testing processes. Letting users just go buy whatever and try to confirm compatibility would be nothing but a giant cluster.

You'd have tons of people claiming compatibility for buggy hardware that only works in certain circumstances and plenty of people on the opposite side claiming something doesn't work when the problem is just user error.
Of course it will not be completely left to users volition/findings, but there will be a master list which are going to be known, working ones. Users will just feedback the other model BT adaptors which may be cheaper or common available ones so that this will contribute the beta process to final release.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: damstr on 12:56 PM - 01/28/14
Wait what are we suppose to use with the beta if we don't have an Android device? Will there be a compatible Windows app that we can use if we have a BT4 laptop?
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Arqos on 01:09 PM - 01/28/14
is there a BT adapter that is maybe in the 20-40 dollar range that we know works for sure? i wouldnt mind spending 50 dollars or so at this point to buy a 100 percent working BT Adapter to beta test with.. Maybe we shouldnt be using a cheap one in the first place...

i was very sad to hear the news today about beta being delayed... i would be happy to help in anyway possible...

Arqos
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mist4fun on 01:13 PM - 01/28/14
Wait what are we suppose to use with the beta if we don't have an Android device? Will there be a compatible Windows app that we can use if we have a BT4 laptop?

I don't think that has been confirmed for beta yet. But there will be a PC app for XIM4, Obsiv has talked about the PC app being identical to the mobile app.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 01:15 PM - 01/28/14
Wait what are we suppose to use with the beta if we don't have an Android device? Will there be a compatible Windows app that we can use if we have a BT4 laptop?

usually people call it XIM Manager. sooo, yeah, you can still use the wireless features of XIM4 with just your average PC with BT..
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: gunit2004 on 05:32 PM - 01/28/14
Ughh... knowing that the beta is ready and it is just the bluetooth adapters holding it back really sucks. Impatience level just increased  :P

I have a bluetooth adapter lying around that I want to try lol.
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: mcdonamw on 04:21 PM - 01/30/14
dunno if it's necessary or not, but Mist, can you rename this thread to reflect the name change in the "what we know thread"?  E.g.   XIM4-XIM4E FAQ + What we know  (Discussion thread).
Title: Re: XIM4-XIM4E FAQ + What we know (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: Uber Pooch on 09:14 PM - 03/17/14
Enclosure design is already done -- and it looks amazing. :)

sexy news

So what does this all mean for an updated ETA... or is Q1 still on track?
Title: Re: XIM4-XIM4E FAQ + What we know (This is an info thread. Not a Q&A)
Post by: shantzonpoint on 05:05 AM - 03/18/14

Enclosure design is already done -- and it looks amazing. :)

sexy news

So what does this all mean for an updated ETA... or is Q1 still on track?
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I would "assume" that everything is in place and out for production? OBsiv also mentioned that the orginal order number is in the 5 digit number.   So it could be 10,000-99,999 which also leads me to think the it's in production.  I highly doubt it will be available by the end of the month though.  My guess would be mid April or so.  Wow I just typed a crapload of possible BS.......lol.  ;D
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Lunatico on 11:55 AM - 03/19/14
I believe my question was already answered by someone, but I couldn't find it (even with the search option).

The beta phase of the XIM4E needs you to buy the BT Dongle pointed out by Obsiv (the Laird BT820), and also the a 4 Ports USB Hub. Fine!

However, will us still need the same equipment for the definitive version of XIM4, regarding the use of a BT dongle and USB hub ? Or not ?

I'm asking because since I live in Brazil, a good powered 4 port usb hub won't be hard to find around here, but the specific Laird BT820 BT Dongle will. Since I doubt the XIM4 will take more than 2 months to start selling, and since everything bought from the USA takes at least 40 days to get here using USPS, I would like to get started NOW and order both Laird BT Dongle and the Belkin hub to be sure everything will work fine with the XIM4 when it gets in my hands.

Thanks in advance.

Lunatico
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: HE2T3R on 11:57 AM - 03/19/14
Xim 4 is all you need..... And love.
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Doom Wad on 12:28 PM - 03/19/14
Will the xim4 be backwards compatible? I still have friends that play Call of Duty on the 360. 
Title: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: ak-xs on 12:33 PM - 03/19/14
Will the xim4 be backwards compatible? I still have friends that play Call of Duty on the 360.

it will work on PS3, PS4, xbone and 360
Title: Re: Re: What we know about next gen xim (This is where you discuss the sticky)
Post by: Cameron3395 on 12:35 PM - 03/19/14
Will the xim4 be backwards compatible? I still have friends that play Call of Duty on the 360. 
Yes