Great timing grey. This was posted as i was making my topic lmao
Its not gonna be a solid solution for hardcore gamers, but I like how they want to find alternatives to Windows. Again if devs were using OpenGL more often it would be no problem.
But MS beeing corrupt pricks as they are, made certain arrangements with game studios to use their directx. this way gamers have no other choice but to buy windows.
They said there will be three announcements this week. I bet we'll see the steambox announcement as well.
I don't think the rumored Steambox will run Crysis at ultra on sub $300 hardware, but I'm anxious to see what they come out with the next few days.
Steam OS, Steambox, a bundle of the two, and how much would you want to bet that Half Life 3 will find its way into the mix.
What better way to showcase a new product than to bundle it with a groundbreaking series.
since it's free - i'm curious as to how a dual boot would work on my machine
Odd question -- I'm sitting here with a copy of the Red Box for PS3 with HL2 on it. The mechanics were so crazy with my XIM1 I never bothered to go play through. Ignoring nostalgia and all that, is it worth the time to go through?
If steambox is this small cube they showed as a prototype, they can stick it else where. It had the size of Oyua and we all know its garbage. My smart phone is 10x more powerful than Oyau.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/09/25/nvidia-pledge-to-help-linuxs-open-source-driver-community/
http://www.atomicgamer.com/news/4189/nvidia-suddenly-wants-to-improve-linux-drivers
Wow, that controller is something new. Just wow, no one had the idea before. The PS4 and Boner controller now look like from the past century.
(http://cdn4.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/rljKewyz3M/prototypes.jpg)
can't knock it till you try it
Lets do a quick think. Controller means closed system controller only play. This would mean hacking/cheating patrol by Steam? Or how do they want this to be playable? Now lets pray this controller will be wired so Obs can XIM it. I would indeed like 90fps XBlive like gameplay without M$ and even Sonys feeble hardware consoles.
wait, we can't use mouse and keyboard on steamOS!?
this is very interesting. read this article to learn why openGL drivers are shite. good reading https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/#cuthere
Why do people STILL think PC gaming is dying? Have you seen the gigantic variety of games and models over the years? The indie and kickstarter games? The modding community and community created games? The amount of choice in games PC completely @#$% all over console now, what do you miss out on? Halo? Killzone? apart from that all the good FPS for you fps junkies are on PC let alone other genres.
PC gaming has always been on the rise along with gaming in general. Pc sales are in decline as mobiles / tablets / laptops are now more affordable and cater for those specific needs. However pc gaming and pc hardware sales have always been on the increase and have been doing incredibly well. Let alone the growth of games and populations.
There is no innovation on consoles, all the innovation in gaming comes from PC let alone the progression of technology that is progressed and taken from PC then put into a box and labeled a console.
If the steamOS/steambox if it takes off, it wont "save" pc gaming, it was never in trouble
There are over 1 billion PC gamers, with total revenue hitting $20 billion. China represented a good portion of the growth, with the nation accounting for $6.8 billion of the revenue, good for a 9 percent boost year-over-year.
PC gaming has massive momentum atm especially at the end of console life, with consoles now with x86 cpu's and steam bringing pc gaming to the lounge, microsoft and sony are going to lose a lot of $ on long term profit plans.
Dont expect much from OpenGL atm. OpenGL support was very poor and intentionally crippled by microsoft marketing to promote directx on windows. "focus our energies on improving and evolving our own Windows graphics platform", as opengl being somewhat open source. Pretty sure MS removed support since vista
(http://i.imgur.com/hycd4ld.gif)
Here are the specifications for Valve's 300 prototypes.
The 300 prototype units will ship with the following components:
GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
CPU: some boxes with Intel i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB GDDR5 (GPU)
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 in high
Wow, that controller is something new. Just wow, no one had the idea before. The PS4 and Boner controller now look like from the past century.
(http://cdn4.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/rljKewyz3M/prototypes.jpg)
it's clear that valve made lot's of research on this and they have been at it for quite some time as we knew from previous reports that did not disclose details about the controller but it seems to have pros and cons vs normal "classic" controllers
Are you sure what you saw wasn't the piston?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xi3-piston-steam-box-amd,24458.html
This will also kill the keyboard & mouse converter & marks the end of XIM. :'(i agree with everything but that. the mechanics used will be the same for analog stick or touchpad so it still is useless to me vs mouse. and like me, any XIM owner etc
Their earlier prototype controller was a standard controller with a trackball instead of analog sticks. Maybe this one's a lot better cuz they totally changed the earlier prototype.
They can make a big move in gaming history here. If it is then is Hackintosh compatible and XBMC works on it, I will laugh my @#$% off. Of course its easy to fail this one. Throw the kb with controllers together - fail. Allow hacking - fail. Bad community system - fail. No OS multiboot - fail.
Are you sure what you saw wasn't the piston?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xi3-piston-steam-box-amd,24458.html
Obviously Valve almost totally changed its blueprint of Steambox. The current prototype is way different than that Gabe Newell was showing I think at last year's CES. It was a very small box with modular design & power probably about the same as Ouya ;D. Now it's fast becoming a PC with Steam OS. I don't know what's next they gonna change but it looks like they're going to turn Steambox into PC. I'm confused of what Valve's doing. They kept on changing everything.
I'm going off of memory but Gabe said their will be many manufacturers and variations but Valve will have it's own steam box as well.
That’s why it has to be Linux based as M$ wont like Steam after the Bone preorders are cancelled. There just are not not many Linux games.
How far has the graphics compatibility improved over the past 3 years? I remember running into problem after problem for several months on linux when trying to get certain games to run.That’s why it has to be Linux based as M$ wont like Steam after the Bone preorders are cancelled. There just are not not many Linux games.
true but you can play any windows game on linux no problem. it impacts performance a bit though but still it's better that not running at all:
http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
people think linux running system owner's don't game because of the compatibility issues, we are not the mac hipsters that have only a handful of IT people on it, Linux users are known for coding skills xD
In my experience, i'd say linux users are known for coding skills cuz they're constantly trying to make things work because of the fact there are so many problems with gaming on linux (and other basic applications, drivers, etc)
Looks incredibly responsive but for FPS it didn't seem to have the speed and accuracy I would have if I was pointing & clicking and just the same as if I was using an analog (just going by the speed of how he had to slow down to slowly guide his thumb to the targets head)
Of course this could have just been because he was trying to get used to it as well.
Looks incredibly responsive but for FPS it didn't seem to have the speed and accuracy I would have if I was pointing & clicking and just the same as if I was using an analog (just going by the speed of how he had to slow down to slowly guide his thumb to the targets head)
Of course this could have just been because he was trying to get used to it as well.
Looks like something you would just get better and better at.
I'm surprised that no one made mention of the HL3 bits. An internal leak of a dev team for the game, and a copyright application in Europe for the HL3 title.
Not very surprising, but rather good news that we'll get HL3 soon.
AK too short - skipped.
The SteamOS and the controller are the most exciting element of the 'next gen' for me. I've got a beast (or rather it was 18months ago) of a pc with a huge back catalogue on Steam - but with the massive downside that it is stuck in my office room upstairs. So having the ability to stream from my main PC to a smaller device ... perhaps my laptop connected to the tv for instance ... well imho, combine that with a decent controller that gets anywhere near m/kb and I'll have my perfect living room solution.
I've got a beast (or rather it was 18months ago) of a pc with a huge back catalogue on Steam
That is a downside I can see, your backlog may be useless on Steam Linux. Will they be able to convince game devs to port release date games?
Linix nerds unite! Get those compilers warmed up, Steam OS is here.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/valve-first-version-of-steamos-to-be-released-to-the-masses-on-friday/
I'll be off to the side waiting for someone to do all the leg work and release a pre-compiled option.
Linix nerds unite! Get those compilers warmed up, Steam OS is here.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/valve-first-version-of-steamos-to-be-released-to-the-masses-on-friday/
I'll be off to the side waiting for someone to do all the leg work and release a pre-compiled option.
+1....My partition is ready :)
guys is it live yet? i'm waiting for the "spoon fed" version.. still need to create a proper partition for it :-\
Linix nerds unite! Get those compilers warmed up, Steam OS is here.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/valve-first-version-of-steamos-to-be-released-to-the-masses-on-friday/
I'll be off to the side waiting for someone to do all the leg work and release a pre-compiled option.
+1....My partition is ready :)
I don't know why, but that sounds oddly sexual ...
*must get mind out of gutter*
A look at a beta-tester's machine:http://www.youtube.com/v/khC927-1fRY&hd=1
From another tester's reddit post (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1swi29/the_steam_machinebox_came/ce1xqts): "The specs for my machine are: intel cpu with 3.20 ghz 4 cores. 15.6 gigs of ram, gtx 780 gpu with 3 gigs video mem"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davealtavilla/2014/01/10/dell-differentiates-with-diminutive-alienware-steam-machine-at-ces-2014/
Intel and Nividia internals! : )
(http://b-i.forbesimg.com/davealtavilla/files/2014/01/Alienware-Steam-Machine-main1.jpg)
So at a cost of six grand... Guess you have to replace it every 13 months to play the latest games....sheesh...here we go again
So at a cost of six grand... Guess you have to replace it every 13 months to play the latest games....sheesh...here we go again
Is it true that in the Steam OS you cannot adjust as many settings as you can on the PC side for game's graphical settings?