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Title: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 04:23 PM - 03/01/08
Call of Duty is now pulling both right and left for me at times when I look up and down, and it only started doing this after I used the wireless mic. Now it does it even tho I'm not using the mic. I know I've seen other people have this problem, is there any remedy?
Title: Re: COD pulling to right
Post by: vulcan44 on 04:29 PM - 03/01/08
Is your controller still plugged in when this is happening?  If so, it's possible that your aiming stick is pointing just outside of it's deadzone.  Whenever this happens to me in Halo 3 a slight jiggle of the stick will usually bring it to normal again.  You might also try disconnecting the controller entirely after it's initialized.  If the controller is not plugged in I have no idea...
Title: Re: COD pulling to right
Post by: Rotomianid on 04:37 PM - 03/01/08
Yeah I've been leaving my controller plugged in since I first started using it, but its strange that only after I use the wireless headset that I get this problem. Still, I'll try unplugging the controller after I get the XIM going. On a side note, it seems to be helping my playing, hah.

edit: I didn't get what you meant initially, but the problem isn't one of my analog sticks moving while I'm not touching it. A lot of people have had this problem over at the old forums.
Title: Re: COD pulling to right
Post by: evm on 10:11 PM - 03/01/08
I have a Logitech G9 mouse, an MS XBOX wired controller, and a MS wireless headset.  I have no issues with pulling.  My settings for XIM can be found over in the configuration  section.  I also use the Sniper version of XFPS.
Title: Re: COD pulling to right
Post by: Rotomianid on 10:29 PM - 03/01/08
I have the sniper version of the XFPS and use an MS wired controller as well, though I have an MX518. It happens at random times and I can get rid of it for 30-40 mins by unplugging/replugging the XFPS. It pulls to both the right and left at times, and judging from what I've read on the old forums, it seems to be an inexplicable problem that some people had and some didn't. It really doesn't bother me that much, I just never had this problem before I used the wireless headset.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 02:45 PM - 03/02/08
http://groups.msn.com/XIM/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1341&LastModified=4675654442714586271
http://groups.msn.com/XIM/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1435&LastModified=4675655686210592690
http://groups.msn.com/XIM/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=696&LastModified=4675649300462209386

Those are some of the threads on the old forum I found that discuss this problem. The more I play, the more annoying this becomes, especially compared to before I bought the wireless headset and didn't have any issues. Is no one else having this problem? Seems like it was pretty widespread...

edit: I just tried to play COD with a normal wireless controller and it's drifting, just as it would with the XIM...
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: myersn024 on 04:04 PM - 03/02/08
Since it's drifting regardless of the controller used, it isn't what I was going to suggest. However, I did have a similar situation happen to me last week. As it turns out, a dog hair had gotten into the aperture on my laser mouse and was causing problems with the tracking. After removing it, everything returned to normal.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 04:26 PM - 03/02/08
Wireless headset + XIM = demonic xbox. If this problem starts affecting other games I may literally throw my xbox out the window...
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Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: cameltoe on 02:04 PM - 03/04/08
i did not have this problem until I got the wireless headset....I do not even use the thing and it will still do it..it will just drift up at an angle. I simply move the mouse and it stops but it will randomly start up again. Tried the whole unplugging the XFPS but that did nothing. So its back to the ps3 for me....
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 03:07 PM - 03/07/08
Yeah, a good portion of people have this problem with the wireless headset, it basically [email protected]#$% your Call of Duty game. I haven't used the wireless headset since I noticed this problem and I now get pulling in COD even when I'm just using a controller. I am legitimately considering trading in my xbox and shelling out some more cash for an elite to see if a new xbox would fix this problem, considering I've done a number of things to try and troubleshoot this problem, including removing my hard drive, which still caused the game to drift. Obviously if I bought a new xbox I would NOT use the wireless headset and instead wait for XIM 2, which allows you to use a wired headset.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 03:29 PM - 03/07/08
This is a wierd issue - I want to know what is the serial # of everyone's headset. I'll list mine (works fine, NEVER EVER had this issue ever). I have built 11 Xim's for friends, and they all use the wireless headset and none of them are having this issue. So i'll have to collect the data on them and compare it.

7 have elites
2 have premium's
2 have 1st gen


What really gets me is it happens without the headset afterwords. So is it just a wierd coincidence that it happens like that since most people do use the wireless headset.

Has anyone experienced this problem without it?

I have had 2 issues but they were resettable - l

1 - looking down and spinning around like a mad man out of my control
2 - looking up and spinning around like a mad man out of my control

both were correctable by resetting xfps and xim.

Very wierd ineed.

There has got to be a fix for this - let's see what we can dig up?
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Sick_Tight on 04:35 PM - 03/07/08
remember Nick i had this problem before I had the Wireless headset, just mine pulled up not to the left or right. . .
Remember this thread?
http://xim360.com/index.php?topic=66.0

mine still pulls up just not as bad as it did with my copperhead mouse.

So honestly I don't think it's the mic at all. That's my honest opinion.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 04:49 PM - 03/07/08
remember Nick i had this problem before I had the Wireless headset, just mine pulled up not to the left or right. . .
Remember this thread?
http://xim360.com/index.php?topic=66.0

mine still pulls up just not as bad as it did with my copperhead mouse.

So honestly I don't think it's the mic at all. That's my honest opinion.

Mine worked flawlessly for weeks, until a few seconds after I turned on my mic in a game. While it could be a strange coincidence, my money's on the microphone.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Sick_Tight on 05:07 PM - 03/07/08
Well like I stated mine did it from the get go, only way to fix it is unplug and plug back in, and that was temporarily fixed for a match then it went to 10 mins and had to fix it to 5 mins, so it got annoying fast. . .
I live with it now and actually very few times do I notice it. I got it now where it's uber minimal anymore. . . So now im happier than before and don't have to unplug and replug . . .
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 05:46 PM - 03/07/08
Yeah, I realize if I don't want to drop some coin to try and get this problem sorted out I'm just gonna have to adapt. I've done real well in games and whatnot with it pulling, but I cant help but get pissed off by it, since I previously thought my XIM was pretty much perfect.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: cameltoe on 01:26 AM - 03/08/08
It actually did this with the controller a few times long before I got the XIM or the wireless HS. I thought my controller was @#$%...

I got the XIM and it never did it until I got the wireless HS. Now it will not stop!! Is there a way to remove the HS from the 360?? I mean, Im not even using the thing and it still drifts!!

PS3 is so smooth its crazy!! Thats why I havent played on the 360 much lately.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 10:39 AM - 03/08/08
I don't have a ps3, but I would like to own one. I played on my friends and ps3 is finally starting to gain some ground and get people on it and online. I'll get one at some point, for now I stick with my pwn rig and my xbox 360.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: cameltoe on 11:28 AM - 03/08/08
pwn rig? Whatcha got?

Im running a q6600 oc to 3ghz, 8800gt, 2gb corsair, 1tb of storage. I game at 1920x1080 on my 37" monitor. Do you have cod 4 for the PC? If ya do, lets play!
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 03:33 PM - 03/08/08
At this moment in time in this very second of this minute this is what I have.


Asus striker SLI mobo
q6600 that's clocked from 2.4 to 3.3 and some change

4 gig ddr2 800 clocked to 940 (XMS)

8800GT's in SLI (g 92 versions, 512 memory). These run at 775 mhz pretty good clock for running on 95% fan (sorta loud, but I crank the 6.1 system hehe).

raid 0 HD's  2 300GB seagates

1 half TB drive (for storage and the OS)

and powering it all is a 1.2KW powersupply, which currently loads out around 700ish Watts (I guess I didn't need 1200 watts lolly)

I have cod4. I just am pissed off at pc games, so many hackers. There is a registry mod that gives you instant 50 on there, and no tracking and stats are local to your machine so no server to validate stats, unlike xbox live.

I do enjoy playing it, but I spend alot of time trying to get CRYSIS to run smoothly (a battle that's been raging for a while now).
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Sick_Tight on 11:27 AM - 03/14/08
I like my iPwn Rig too! ! !
Nick you already know what i have in my beast, and i've not even utilized it yet! =/
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 02:30 PM - 03/18/08
The ONLY game that ever slaps my rig around like a *beep* is Crysis. That game is just way to much for any rigs.

Thankfully, nvidia is coming out with the 9800 soon, so I'm hoping to see what kind of FPS people get.

On high I get 47 high FPS and low around the low 20's

On ultra high it's a joke 20's at highest and 17 at lowest fps. lol. Freaking SLI 8800's should not be doing that, but everyone's SLI rig performs that way its wierd.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Sick_Tight on 03:49 PM - 03/18/08
The ONLY game that ever slaps my rig around like a *beep* is Crysis. That game is just way to much for any rigs.

Thankfully, nvidia is coming out with the 9800 soon, so I'm hoping to see what kind of FPS people get.

On high I get 47 high FPS and low around the low 20's

On ultra high it's a joke 20's at highest and 17 at lowest fps. lol. Freaking SLI 8800's should not be doing that, but everyone's SLI rig performs that way its wierd.

Almost sounds like a problem with the coding in the game then eh?
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 03:54 PM - 03/19/08
If one has ever witnessed the game, it's just too far ahead of it's time. The environments on ULTRA high are photo realistic and take alot of power to run.

I did manage to get my 2.4 qx6600 up to 3.9ghz on water, been prime 95 stable for 2 days now. That gave me another 9 FPS, which was alot (also went up another 75mhz on gpu and another 45mhz on memory, and then increased the shaders to 110mhz which helped).

That game makes you forget about reality, it's great its obsessive.

I refuse to play through the rest of the game until I get at least 50 fps or more constant.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Sick_Tight on 05:11 PM - 03/20/08
I have yet to try playing it, I don't like FPS games that are not a good Multiplayer game. So eh not my cup of tea I suppose. .  But i looks cool none the less. . .  Least I can say CS Source Looks good with my two new cards ha ha . . . My old Radeon look decent but wow what a difference a GT 8800 makes! Wowzers. . .
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 07:28 PM - 03/21/08
After taking a break from call of duty, about two weeks without playing it or using the wireless headset, when I came back and used my XIM again it was still pulling, but now its very very slight, and very playable. I've come to accept I'm not going to be able to talk @#$% on call of duty until XIM2 comes out, at which time I may exchange my xbox if there are still any pulling issues whatsoever. Just wanted to update this thread with something a little on topic instead of you guys discussing your @#$% rigs.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: nickstudy on 10:59 AM - 03/25/08
I don't have this pulling problem. The one time it looked down and spun around uncontrollably, I just reset xim and my xfps and was good to go.

My rig is not @#%@, although unless the industry changes I may leave pc gaming as it's just not what it used to be.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: OMGsus on 12:21 PM - 03/25/08
What are you talking about?

Edit: Lets try and stay on topic. This is a legitimate problem with the XIM.

Its an auto-correcting feature of COD4. Im not sure if its the game sending a calibration reset to the "controller" and the xfps doesnt know what to do with it. or if its the game recalibrating "center" based on movement patters. (this is what synaptics does with those little eraser head mice sticks in the center of some laptop keyboards. on those just leave it alone for a few minutes and it sees the mouse moving at a perfect constant rate, assumes its not human and makes it the new center).

I would assume its the game reacting to "inhuman" input and assuming a new "center" since my knowledge of the xfps that it man in the middles, which means it shouldn't break comms with the controller or filter comms unless its acting as a proxy.

To fix this issue just unplug the xfps from the xbox and re-plug it in between matches. If this is the xfps causeing the problem, then this issue will be fixed with xim 2. If its the game recalibrating "center", then it will happen with xim 2 as well. This would also prove a fairly easy mechanism for detecting "inhuman" inputs of the stick. I hope game devs don't start sending controller input stats to big brother over live... Might need to work on humanizing inputs from xim software... start by not letting the virtual sticks leave the circular bound of the controller.. I will get into this issue in another thread.
Title: Re: COD pulling
Post by: Rotomianid on 01:03 PM - 03/25/08
What are you talking about?

Edit: Lets try and stay on topic. This is a legitimate problem with the XIM.

Its an auto-correcting feature of COD4. Im not sure if its the game sending a calibration reset to the "controller" and the xfps doesnt know what to do with it. or if its the game recalibrating "center" based on movement patters. (this is what synaptics does with those little eraser head mice sticks in the center of some laptop keyboards. on those just leave it alone for a few minutes and it sees the mouse moving at a perfect constant rate, assumes its not human and makes it the new center).

I would assume its the game reacting to "inhuman" input and assuming a new "center" since my knowledge of the xfps that it man in the middles, which means it shouldn't break comms with the controller or filter comms unless its acting as a proxy.

To fix this issue just unplug the xfps from the xbox and re-plug it in between matches. If this is the xfps causeing the problem, then this issue will be fixed with xim 2. If its the game recalibrating "center", then it will happen with xim 2 as well. This would also prove a fairly easy mechanism for detecting "inhuman" inputs of the stick. I hope game devs don't start sending controller input stats to big brother over live... Might need to work on humanizing inputs from xim software... start by not letting the virtual sticks leave the circular bound of the controller.. I will get into this issue in another thread.


There may be an auto centering feature, but I'm not sure thats the problem, given that this has happened to numerous people only after using the wireless headset, and that it still exists even when using a normal controller... As I stated in an earlier post, I no longer have an unbearable pulling problem, where if I would look up then down two or three times I would have done a 360, though it still does pull a little bit.