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Title: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 05:48 PM - 10/09/11
I'am thinking about buying myself a new headset and I was thinking, which headsets do you prefer,  which ones are the best in your opinion and why??
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 05:56 PM - 10/09/11
Sennheiser HD598 + Earforce DSS
for me by far the best from the best :)

I have testet many many headsets..
(Sharkoon xtatic, Tritton ax 720, Tritton ax pro, turtle beach x41, beyerdynamic dt770 pro, Audio Technica AD700, Astro A40, Sennheiser HD595, Razer Chimaera, Sennheiser PC360 )

as Soundprocessor is DSS my prefer..
I have testet: DSS, Astro MixAmp and Yamaha RXV-371 5.1,    DSS has the best sound.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 07:20 PM - 10/09/11
Based on only reviews that I have read, apparently the ultimate combo is the AKG-702 (or the slightly revamped AKG-Q701) combined with the Earforce DSS and a headphone emp (fiio E9).

2nd place (can't go wrong) would be the HD598

For sure, again based on tests/reviews, the DSS is better than the mixamp.

Rightnow, I just got done selling my X41 wireless headset, and the first thing I'm going to buy is a Earforce DSS.  For headphones I'm considering the JVC-HARX 700s as these are the best bang for the buck gaming headphones($35-$48).   
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:24 PM - 10/09/11
what's your budget?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:26 PM - 10/09/11
Sennheiser HD598 + Earforce DSS
for me by far the best from the best :)

I have testet many many headsets..
(Sharkoon xtatic, Tritton ax 720, Tritton ax pro, turtle beach x41, beyerdynamic dt770 pro, Audio Technica AD700, Astro A40, Sennheiser HD595, Razer Chimaera, Sennheiser PC360 )

as Soundprocessor is DSS my prefer..
I have testet: DSS, Astro MixAmp and Yamaha RXV-371 5.1,    DSS has the best sound.

I'm considering getting Ultrasone Pro 900 for Christmas for general use (music, movies, games) so i need you to buy them first and review them for me ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 07:55 PM - 10/09/11
old sennheiser 350+a steelseries audiomixer for the voice works fine for me
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: chrome- on 07:56 PM - 10/09/11
tritton ax pro COD edition ( there are quite a few differences from the reg axpros compared to the COD edition ones)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: modwarfare on 09:49 PM - 10/09/11
A pair of skull candys  with a microsoft wired mic, totally. O yeah and don't forget to search first if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:51 PM - 10/09/11
Based on only reviews that I have read, apparently the ultimate combo is the AKG-702 (or the slightly revamped AKG-Q701) combined with the Earforce DSS and a headphone emp (fiio E9).

2nd place (can't go wrong) would be the HD598

For sure, again based on tests/reviews, the DSS is better than the mixamp.

Rightnow, I just got done selling my X41 wireless headset, and the first thing I'm going to buy is a Earforce DSS.  For headphones I'm considering the JVC-HARX 700s as these are the best bang for the buck gaming headphones($35-$48).   

I have tested the AKG against the HD598 and the sennheiser won. Gave back the AKG too expensive for the no bass at all. Nr1 is as Noobs said DSS+HD598.
Buy the steelseries mixer only if you enjoy a background hiss  and Trittons if lower sound quality is what you are looking for .
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:52 PM - 10/09/11
i advice you a ad700 + DSS or Mixamp
its the cheapest combination giving you the best sound for the money

this combo is better than any tritton, turtle beach or astros
if you want to mix chatsound volume get the mixamp over the dss

with an external mic you will be able to talk then
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:37 AM - 10/10/11
Yeah the ad700 is not bad but bad bad bad head fit and also feeble bass. You must like that.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:41 AM - 10/10/11
but its still the cheapest option with the best sound moneywise

i mean 70$ ad700 + 70$ DSS or 150$ Mixamp is not affordable for everyone

ofc a better headphone gives better audio but you easily end up with 300$ then
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 01:45 AM - 10/10/11
AD700 is something that has to be experienced.  Some find the size too big or loose.  Easily modified by putting a rubber band to connect the "wings".  It's more known for positional audio and that it does greatly.  The bass, is anemic.  Which can be good if you are all about footsteps as explosions are fatiguing and hide the details..

So you have to ask yourself.  Do you need it for positioning/competitive or immersion?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 02:13 AM - 10/10/11
AD700 is something that has to be experienced.  Some find the size too big or loose.  Easily modified by putting a rubber band to connect the "wings".  It's more known for positional audio and that it does greatly.  The bass, is anemic.  Which can be good if you are all about footsteps as explosions are fatiguing and hide the details..

So you have to ask yourself.  Do you need it for positioning/competitive or immersion?

Agree, if you also want to watch a movie with it and in the same time enjoy it, dont get those cans. Of course Odin is right it’s the best for the small purse.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:48 AM - 10/10/11
Im surprised noone makes like a mixamp or dss type solution with an in line eq. Thats what I would buy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Retrospect on 03:14 AM - 10/10/11
AD700's are best for pure gaming. 598's if you plan on using them for other things. Extensive reviews have been done in hifi forums. I also use AD700+DSS+spectrum combo; plugging directly into the DSS seems to provide a better overall quality however sound chat is extremely crucial if you play with a team so audio mixing is absolutely critical.

P.S. AD700's fit great, they are also extremely comfortable. People who complain generally have small heads. Fortunately I do not fall into that category. In fact in most reviews you will find that their comfort is usually touted with great reverence. That said they do fit 'looser' than your average headset. Like if I tilt my head all the way towards the floor they will slip forward-- @#$% you gravity!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 03:25 AM - 10/10/11
And there we see again, Headsets are preference and matter of taste. I found the 700AD boring and no fun and prefer the HD598 and Retrospect would never trade in his. The spectrum generates really bad sound quality on my system, maybe on Slims it doesn’t. So there is no other way than try yourself and keep what you like. Seems Noobs and me we have the same Taste as we tried just everything and ended up with the DSS and the 598s.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 03:45 AM - 10/10/11
Im surprised noone makes like a mixamp or dss type solution with an in line eq. Thats what I would buy.

you mean setup like this?
it's from Nyarlathotep
and Passkes also use this way to mix with the dss...

(http://genemontgomery.com/bb_files/Nyarlathotep_Sound_Setup.png)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:34 AM - 10/10/11
Im surprised noone makes like a mixamp or dss type solution with an in line eq. Thats what I would buy.

you mean setup like this?
it's from Nyarlathotep
and Passkes also use this way to mix with the dss...

(http://genemontgomery.com/bb_files/Nyarlathotep_Sound_Setup.png)

Yea but theyre both using an actual mixing console to do it... Mixamp and dss should have eqs on them... Right now im thinking about getting a cheap desktop mixing console for my setup like these guys. Wouldnt be that hard to put a two or three band eq on these devices from the getgo though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:37 AM - 10/10/11
The hard part is not to produce noise as there is a second grounding involved.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:47 AM - 10/10/11
do it in recording studios all the time its really not that hard to get rid of noice when you troubleshoot properly.  :P but yea it does make things more complicated.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 05:46 AM - 10/10/11
Yeah but they don't use crappy controllers with two way 2,5mm pin connectors. I gave up, but I will try again if someone steps up with a good mixing solution.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:00 AM - 10/10/11
Yeah but they don't use crappy controllers with two way 2,5mm pin connectors. I gave up, but I will try again if someone steps up with a good mixing solution.

Lmfao yep your def right on that.

Oh man I got so far off topic sorry bout that. but yea the mixing console im looking at only runs 50$ us so it may be aviable solution and also it has an eq. The noise can prolly be helped with a ground lift of sorts.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:36 AM - 10/10/11
Yeah but they don't use crappy controllers with two way 2,5mm pin connectors. I gave up, but I will try again if someone steps up with a good mixing solution.

Lmfao yep your def right on that.

Oh man I got so far off topic sorry bout that. but yea the mixing console im looking at only runs 50$ us so it may be aviable solution and also it has an eq. The noise can prolly be helped with a ground lift of sorts.

well if you could speak any german, we are discussing stuff like that on already 245 pages :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 07:48 AM - 10/10/11
Speaking german would be sweet!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Passkes on 10:02 AM - 10/10/11
Speaking german would be sweet!

not always j/k ;) :D
Great peeps at the German Discussion Forum ^_^
 
Ontopic:
As Noobs states I use a Mackie 802-VLZ3 in combination with the DSS and I really love it!
 
Headphones are really personal, as I really like my AKG Q701 which preamped has a good bass.
If you like more bass I also have the AKG 271 MKII and as a "console" headset I also own the Turtle Beach PX5 running completely wireless throught a bluetooth module.
 
The sound of the PX5 is also very good and I really like that the PX5 can be completely preset through a PC you can set the filters just like you want the sound to be. Filter out bass and amp the Hi`s whatever you want.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 10:19 AM - 10/10/11
I also have DSS+ Hd 598 and i love them! I had same dillema about no voice mix... In xbox setting(preference->voice) I changed game volume to half and give voice to max.Now if someone talks,game volume reduces a little and i hear my team mates perfectly! It work great for me! Just try this !
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:27 AM - 10/10/11
I use that settings too, I am simply not OK with reducing sound quality for mixing. Its "dobre" like this ehh Brzezinski?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 10:39 AM - 10/10/11
Thats why using an analog mixer would work great for audiophiles. Usually include ground lifts.... Eqs.... Preamps.... Aux sends and returns.... Though seeing as a good part of the xbl audio system is so cheap im conflicted. Cables are not sheilded well and crap jacks. It could be like trying to polosh a turd.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 10:53 AM - 10/10/11
Yeah its "dobre" Roads :D  You are not satisfied with this method Roads?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:36 AM - 10/10/11
Most of the time its OK, yes.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Retrospect on 02:06 PM - 10/10/11
And there we see again, Headsets are preference and matter of taste. I found the 700AD boring and no fun and prefer the HD598 and Retrospect would never trade in his. The spectrum generates really bad sound quality on my system, maybe on Slims it doesn’t. So there is no other way than try yourself and keep what you like. Seems Noobs and me we have the same Taste as we tried just everything and ended up with the DSS and the 598s.

Well roads to be clear I am using a DSS, but I am plugging my spectrum into the DSS so I can get voice mixing.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 04:30 PM - 10/10/11
I heard you can use an Astro Music Fairy to get game chat volume control with your DSS.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Incognito on 04:46 PM - 10/10/11
old sennheiser 350+a steelseries audiomixer for the voice works fine for me

I'm using the same setup (Sennheiser PC350's with SS audio mixer) and I've also had no problems.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 09:57 PM - 10/10/11
And there we see again, Headsets are preference and matter of taste. I found the 700AD boring and no fun and prefer the HD598 and Retrospect would never trade in his. The spectrum generates really bad sound quality on my system, maybe on Slims it doesn’t. So there is no other way than try yourself and keep what you like. Seems Noobs and me we have the same Taste as we tried just everything and ended up with the DSS and the 598s.

Well roads to be clear I am using a DSS, but I am plugging my spectrum into the DSS so I can get voice mixing.

I get that, I tried that combination too and the spectrum added a very bad noise, more I could tolerate. Some people get the noise with the spectrum mixer, some dont.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: iambacardi on 03:54 AM - 10/11/11
audio-technica AD700 + astro mix-amp + zalman clip on mic + xim3.  Turns your xbox into a shuttle pc.  Do not, please DON'T, ever buy some made for gaming set up.  They will never be as good and are marketed to us gamers in hopes that we don't know audio equipment.

http://www.head-fi.org/

check out http://www.head-fi.org/t/456337/xbox360-headphones/15  and http://www.head-fi.org/t/446329/fragtalitys-audio-technica-ad700-boom-mic-mod and
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: iambacardi on 03:55 AM - 10/11/11
i advice you a ad700 + DSS or Mixamp
its the cheapest combination giving you the best sound for the money

this combo is better than any tritton, turtle beach or astros
if you want to mix chatsound volume get the mixamp over the dss

with an external mic you will be able to talk then

High five to that brother.  AD700's are the best.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:31 PM - 10/11/11
i advice you a ad700 + DSS or Mixamp
its the cheapest combination giving you the best sound for the money

this combo is better than any tritton, turtle beach or astros
if you want to mix chatsound volume get the mixamp over the dss

with an external mic you will be able to talk then

High five to that brother.  AD700's are the best.

LMAO HIGH Five to the bit about never using a prebuilt setup

thumbs down to ad700s being the best

now my custom senn hd555 + astro mic amp = BEAST!!!!!
heres some p[ic to show the lengths i went to for the perfect setup :P
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152420.jpg)
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152546.jpg)
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152459.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: pr13st on 04:20 AM - 10/12/11

Well roads to be clear I am using a DSS, but I am plugging my spectrum into the DSS so I can get voice mixing.

Sorry to hijack this slightly, Retro could you please quickly describe how you have this set up? I am a little undecided but am looking either at pairing my Senny 428's with a DSS, Zalman Mic and a Spectrum, or removing the Spectrum/DSS combo and going straight for an Astro.
The all in one solution of the Astro is appealing.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: NY Dynasty on 04:49 AM - 10/12/11
Bang for the buck, at $110, has to be the DX11 by Turtle beach, exclusive at Best bUy.  I owned the sharkoon xstatic n they are nothing to this.  they come with the DSS add-on which pretty much make up the "hefty" price tag.  Yeah, u can spend 250+ on some sets mentioned above n they will sound better but at 110, u can get a great sounding set with 7.1 Dolby surround and XBL chat capability and super comfy for long gameplay, cant beat that!!!!  dnt know the OPs budget but if ur trying to be frugal, cant go wrong with these....
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Post by: amak1 on 05:16 AM - 10/12/11
The ad700 have a closed design counterpart right?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: TyS on 08:43 AM - 10/12/11
The ad700 have a closed design counterpart right?

Yep.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:46 AM - 10/12/11
Bang for the buck, at $110, has to be the DX11 by Turtle beach, exclusive at Best bUy.  I owned the sharkoon xstatic n they are nothing to this.  they come with the DSS add-on which pretty much make up the "hefty" price tag.  Yeah, u can spend 250+ on some sets mentioned above n they will sound better but at 110, u can get a great sounding set with 7.1 Dolby surround and XBL chat capability and super comfy for long gameplay, cant beat that!!!!  dnt know the OPs budget but if ur trying to be frugal, cant go wrong with these....

Uhhhh... a DSS + Koss KSC75's + MS Headset = less than $110.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 09:35 AM - 10/12/11
The ad700 have a closed design counterpart right?

Yep.

So obviously the bass response is better in closed cans though positional referencing might suffer but judging by looking at frequency response curves the dss w/ ad700 or the closed ones is great. Im doubting tb or tritton can come close to it technically. But again its subjective. I would go with the closed version just bc I like bass.... not so much in game but in other medias... And I find stereo positional audio more than adequate. Also audio technicas products are highly revered in the pro audio industry bc of performance and quality.... Not gimmicks.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:12 AM - 10/12/11
if you refered to the ad700s as the best gaming headphones i know of whole online communitys that will just laugh at you, theyre better than any on the market but still bottom in terms of quality for gaming

if you want quality go Beyerdynamic DT880
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:15 AM - 10/12/11
if you refered to the ad700s as the best gaming headphones i know of whole online communitys that will just laugh at you, theyre better than any on the market but still bottom in terms of quality for gaming

if you want quality go Beyerdynamic DT880

These same online communities are the reason products like this exist: http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AP-CDSL
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:31 AM - 10/12/11
Lol yep
I'm just saying there is a whole load better options than
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 10:56 AM - 10/12/11
Thats ok the audio proffessional community will laugh at the gaming community unfortunately.... You know your talking to someone who does this proffessionally....Bang for your buck will be the ats... Though my friend they have very similar response curves... And almost 100 dollar difference. In the end positional audio will be the main factor and that is highly subjective.

Big factor is what noob would take beyer hardware over at hardware? Seinheiser maybe... But well whatever.

Anyway again this is highly subjective so im not into flexing internet muscles. Bottom line in my studio I run sonys over both.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jas0n on 11:34 AM - 10/12/11
I'am thinking about buying myself a new headset and I was thinking, which headsets do you prefer,  which ones are the best in your opinion and why??

When ever I'm asked this, I always suggest the headsets made specifically for gaming, Tritton, Astro Turtle beaches..ect. These products are made for the purpose of gaming(specifically consoles) and it will work out of the box with all the bells and whistles STOCK.

Now if you want to get fancy and have some money to throw around everyone who replied to this thread gave excellent suggestions on higher end audiophile level headphones. Again, this costs money not just the headphones, but all the components you may have to buy separately.


Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 11:35 AM - 10/12/11
so all said and done, what are my options for a DSS processor with being able to mix chat in??
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 11:40 AM - 10/12/11
Easiest tb headphones.... But whats your price range?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:47 AM - 10/12/11
so all said and done, what are my options for a DSS processor with being able to mix chat in??

Easy option that will sound only ok:
Either one of the prepackaged dealioes from TB or Tritton.

Almost as easy option (and maybe cheaper) that will sound like a room full of beckoning young ladies:
DSS
Koss KSC75
Zalman Mic or Audio Technica ATR4600
Steelseries Mixer
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jas0n on 11:50 AM - 10/12/11
if you refered to the ad700s as the best gaming headphones i know of whole online communitys that will just laugh at you, theyre better than any on the market but still bottom in terms of quality for gaming

if you want quality go Beyerdynamic DT880

Before you go around suggesting the DT880 make you add what ohms to get 32, 250 or 600. Makes a world of difference and *may require a DAC/AMP to drive them properly.

I do love them <3
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 11:53 AM - 10/12/11
i dont want crap TB, tritton, or any other "gaming" branded headphones. just pure audiophile solutions....

right now im rocking AKG K702 with a mixamp and a FiiO E9.... but find the mixamp lacking..... but dont wanna lose the mixing of the chat.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:56 AM - 10/12/11
astro Mix amp works perfectly

Iv been using my hd555 for years n years for gaming so I tend to not like much else, everything else iv tried sounds dull and muffled
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:59 AM - 10/12/11
Has anyone tried the sennheiser Xbox headset? Not long been released and if its like te pc360. Should be good
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:01 PM - 10/12/11
astro Mix amp works perfectly

Iv been using my hd555 for years n years for gaming so I tend to not like much else, everything else iv tried sounds dull and muffled

mixamp is pricey and does not respond as well as the DSS.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:02 PM - 10/12/11
Yea mixamp degrades the quality some. Though you can "mix" with it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 12:03 PM - 10/12/11
yes but the spectrum looks like garbage, not to mention roads says it produces nasty interference ..... anyone else know of another mixer that may work?
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Post by: RoskaL on 12:05 PM - 10/12/11
Tell me about it lol easiest thing though and best available atm as a quick solution
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 12:06 PM - 10/12/11
i could have sworn that roads or someone posted up about a small Behringer mixer.....
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:07 PM - 10/12/11
Roads said it produced noise for him.  Others use it without issue.

As for other mixers that would work... any desk mixer.  I use this one: http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UB802.aspx
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:08 PM - 10/12/11
I'm surprised there isn't a audiophile mixer yet? Like a proper dedicated mixer for use with Xbox chat etc....
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:12 PM - 10/12/11
I would suggest a real audio mixing console though it could suck if you dont know what your doing.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 12:13 PM - 10/12/11
I would suggest a real audio mixing console though it could suck if you dont know what your doing.

This...

I use that Behringer because its what I had around.  It works quite well now.  It took me a good bit of tweaking and trips to Radio Shack to get it to this point though.  I would recommend a Steelseries mixer before this.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:18 PM - 10/12/11
Iv got a 24 track mixer but that's abit big lol
The astro mixamp is the best in terms of it does everything how it should but not amazingly
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:24 PM - 10/12/11
Sweetwater.com has decent 4 channel mixers for 50$ with aux sends and stereo inputs. I would rock this but then again its way in my comfort zone to set this up.

Rabbit behringer makes good products actually there was a whole fiasco in the audio industry about mackie stealing behringer designs.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:32 PM - 10/12/11
Sweetwater.com has decent 4 channel mixers for 50$ with aux sends and stereo inputs. I would rock this but then again its way in my comfort zone to set this up.

You guys who are looking for a solution and are afraid of the Steelseries controller mixer should grab one of those sweetwater.com desk mixers.

Rabbit behringer makes good products actually there was a whole fiasco in the audio industry about mackie stealing behringer designs.

Yeah, my Behringer isn't bad.  The mic preamps are just a bit noisy is all.  Otherwise its fine.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:34 PM - 10/12/11
How do you go about the chat mixing?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:37 PM - 10/12/11
How do you go about the chat mixing?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31EYDbny9WL.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 12:38 PM - 10/12/11
http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53848 something like this work??

or this: http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53846?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: halomodder on 12:42 PM - 10/12/11
Does anyone know anything about the new Sennheiser X320 headset?

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-X320-Xbox-Headset/dp/B005JVKAY6

http://yourtechlife.com/wp-content/uploads/X320-Adapter-2.jpg
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:43 PM - 10/12/11
http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53848 something like this work??

or this: http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53846?

That would probably work.  A small format desk mixer will have more flexibility and be about $20 cheaper than that.

Try this one: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/soundcraft-notepad-102-mixer/430565000000000
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:44 PM - 10/12/11
Its prolly not the preamps prolly, @#$% xbox cables. Or a ground loop.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:45 PM - 10/12/11
Its prolly not the preamps prolly, @#$% xbox cables. Or a ground loop.

Maybe a nasty combo of everything... my electric guitar recordings have a bit of noise in them as well.

I get a cleaner recording using the direct USB out of my POD HD.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 12:49 PM - 10/12/11
http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53848 something like this work??

or this: http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53846?

That would probably work.  A small format desk mixer will have more flexibility and be about $20 cheaper than that.

Try this one: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/soundcraft-notepad-102-mixer/430565000000000

now i have very limited knowledge in mixing, how hard would it take someone like me to get this thing up and running? like where does the 3.5mm jack for chat plug into that? what adapters would i have to buy to get it hooked up to my DSS and FiiO E9??

thanks for all your help truff....
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:00 PM - 10/12/11
You would also need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-PC-Headset-Adapter-PC35-Xbox360/dp/B0035AMM76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318445491&sr=8-2


This should be sticky'd.  I really don't want to have to explain this again next month.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 01:07 PM - 10/12/11
phucking phenominal write up man..... :D all questions alliviated :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:08 PM - 10/12/11
Yep rabbit is right... Thats why I use the term "comfort zone" but there are many advantages to using a config like he says like an eq.... Just to be the first and foremost.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 01:12 PM - 10/12/11
Think ill stick with the astro mixamp, my headphones are on a 4 pole Jack, I could make a adapter I suppose but its hassle for probably not much improvement
The x320 looks good I would have got them of I didnt mod out my headphones
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: paulg123 on 02:50 PM - 10/12/11
Beyerdynamic dt 990 premiums are a great gaming performers, I have the 600ohm versionand they sound excellent and have a great tight but punchy bass
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 02:56 PM - 10/12/11
One that people don't know about is the Fischer Audio FA-011.  Just as good as the beyers but retaining the liquid mid-range. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:03 PM - 10/12/11
What is liquid mid range? That sounds terrible. Like a bad chorus effect. Sorry guys for my demeanor but if I havnt seen them in studios or live sound then I have a tendency to discredit them.... But im sure theyre good if you all like them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:12 PM - 10/12/11
Music/sound come in frequencies.  Low frequencies are the bass while high frequencies are the treble.   So those two are kinda like buns while  the middle is where the meat is =).
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Passkes on 03:12 PM - 10/12/11
You would also need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-PC-Headset-Adapter-PC35-Xbox360/dp/B0035AMM76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318445491&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-PC-Headset-Adapter-PC35-Xbox360/dp/B0035AMM76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318445491&sr=8-2)

 
  • The headset buddy goes into your 360 controller.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the green end of the headset buddy to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the DSS output to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run your mic to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the AUX Send on the mixer to the pink end of the headset buddy.
  • Use the main level on the mic channel to control how much of your own voice you hear.
  • Use the aux level on the mic channel to control how much of your voice everybody else hears.
  • Your headphones go to the mixer headphone output.
  • Adjust other levels to taste.
This should be sticky'd.  I really don't want to have to explain this again next month.

you`re missing the optical out from the XBOX360 to the DSS ;) :P
 
Also make sure that you have a GOOD grounding and use A Grade cables to avoid any disturbing noises. I also like the Belkin Surgemaster Gold as an extra 75dB EMI/RFI filter between your power socket and your equipment.
 
 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: paulg123 on 03:18 PM - 10/12/11
One that people don't know about is the Fischer Audio FA-011.  Just as good as the beyers but retaining the liquid mid-range.
Interesting other than the earcups themselves everything else has the same design as the turtle beach hpx headset
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:32 PM - 10/12/11
That's the funny part.  I have the HPA2 and the FA-011.  The design is the same but the drivers & sound/musicality are absolutely different.  <3 em =)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: trippalhealicks on 04:56 PM - 10/12/11
I just bought the Turtle Beach Ear Force X41 wireless headset.  I got it for $130 from Newegg.  Sound quality is nice.  Has separate chat and game volume levels.  No power supply required for the base station (powered by USB from Xbox), runs off 2 AAA batteries, decent battery life (4-5 days with a couple hours gaming each night), detachable mic, decent price.  I will say this....the wireless range isn't half what they state for the product.  They say 30'.....I might make it 12 before it starts breaking up.  That being said, though, I DO have a 2.4ghz wireless router sitting about 4 feet from it.  That might have something to do with it.  Other than the limited range, it has no hiccups or sound problems.


Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 07:20 PM - 10/12/11
You would also need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-PC-Headset-Adapter-PC35-Xbox360/dp/B0035AMM76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318445491&sr=8-2

  • The headset buddy goes into your 360 controller.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the green end of the headset buddy to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the DSS output to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run your mic to a channel on the mixer.
  • Run a 3.5mm line from the AUX Send on the mixer to the pink end of the headset buddy.
  • Use the main level on the mic channel to control how much of your own voice you hear.
  • Use the aux level on the mic channel to control how much of your voice everybody else hears.
  • Your headphones go to the mixer headphone output.
  • Adjust other levels to taste.

This should be sticky'd.  I really don't want to have to explain this again next month.

are those jacks on that desktop mixer 3.5mm? or do i have to buy adapters? any suggestion on quality 3.5mm leads? when you say to run the green end from the headset buddy to a channel on the mixer do you mean one of the mic channels? what about the DSS? are there specific channels on the mixer i want to be using? is that mixer a 2 channel? or 4?

lol sorry for all the questions, just like to know most of what im getting into before i get into it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:00 PM - 10/12/11
Ok. so what is the best voice/sound mixer to get that doesn't produce any audible hiss when used with the lacking voice/sound mixer, but better sound than Astro mixamp Earforce DSS?

Does that sennheiser X320's gmae chat sound adjuster sell separately?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 02:20 AM - 10/13/11
to get rid of hiss from chat, all you need is a ferrite suppressor on the chat cable like a pac-audio sn-1


what the dss? as a guess id say dolby surround sound? is it some kind of device you are refering to? or is it on the behringer mixer?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:42 AM - 10/13/11
Good call never actually used those do they work well?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:37 AM - 10/13/11
are those jacks on that desktop mixer 3.5mm? or do i have to buy adapters? when you say to run the green end from the headset buddy to a channel on the mixer do you mean one of the mic channels? what about the DSS? are there specific channels on the mixer i want to be using?

The mixer will have 1/4" and XLR inputs.  You can probably get away with using whatever TRS 3.5mm to 1/4" adapters you have, these are very common.  I achieved the highest quality by using a TRS to XLR adapter so I could plug into the mic preamp on each channel.  I would only suggest that for the DSS and the chat.  The mic can just go to one of the line level TRS jacks.

So in conclusion... you will definately need some combination of TRS cables (either with 1/4' or 3.5mm ends) and some 1/4' to 3.5mm (or vice-versa) adapters.  You might also end up needing some TRS to XLR adapters.

Remember how I said it took me a few trips to Radio Shack?  heh

any suggestion on quality 3.5mm leads?

Not really.  Other people here might have good suggestions.  If I don't have what I need laying around, I just make what I need out of lamp cord.

is that mixer a 2 channel? or 4?

Its a six channel mixer.  The first two channels are the ones that have the XLR inputs and therefore the mic preamps on them, and they are stereo.  The channels are TRS line level channels, and be either stereo or mono.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:52 PM - 10/13/11
Radio shack should have everything you need.... If your into making your own cables or want premade ones with adapters. If you dont have a radio shack around you than a musical instrument store like sam ash or guitar center should have everything. Prefer radio shack bc stuff is cheaperand it seems like they have more useful items.
    All mixers  vary some in there inputs and outputs. You my get away with component inputs on stereo inputs. It all depends what mixer you choose.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 01:16 PM - 10/13/11
Buy cheap stuff, you get cheap stuff which in turn give you cheap quality
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 01:35 PM - 10/13/11
anyone here using a headphone amplifier?
I'm considering to modding me a b-tech
http://www.rock-grotto.co.uk/B-tech.htm
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:44 PM - 10/13/11
anyone here using a headphone amplifier?
I'm considering to modding me a b-tech
http://www.rock-grotto.co.uk/B-tech.htm

That amp looks like a good time in mod land.

I've never bothered with a headphone amp.  I use the mic preamp channels on the board so I have all the gain I need.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 01:57 PM - 10/13/11
I also have no experience with headphone amps.
but a b-tech + mod costs only ~70 bucks
and after the mod the sound quallity is amazing...
after modding he sounds like a 300$ amp. :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 07:54 PM - 10/19/11
Has anyone heard or tested the Turtle beach PX5? Thinking about getting one.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 08:07 PM - 10/19/11
tritton ax pro COD edition ( there are quite a few differences from the reg axpros compared to the COD edition ones)


Like what?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 08:13 PM - 10/19/11
From experience using them on the pc with an asus xonar DX sound card. The goldring DR150s are amazing headphones.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:19 PM - 10/19/11
I also have no experience with headphone amps.
but a b-tech + mod costs only ~70 bucks
and after the mod the sound quallity is amazing...
after modding he sounds like a 300$ amp. :)


I've been considering doing a Millet Minimax for a while, found a great kit with everything included. Any DIY amp is going to perform great for the cost compared to retail amps :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:16 PM - 10/19/11
I also have no experience with headphone amps.
but a b-tech + mod costs only ~70 bucks
and after the mod the sound quallity is amazing...
after modding he sounds like a 300$ amp. :)


I've been considering doing a Millet Minimax for a while, found a great kit with everything included. Any DIY amp is going to perform great for the cost compared to retail amps :)

so what sort of setup would you use? im wanting to change from a astro mixamp to something alot better sounding but with the functionality

iv seen people running through a small desktop mixer but where does the amp fit in and what kind of thing would i need? i know about the modding side a little as i use to with guitars and amps but still a n00b :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:19 PM - 10/19/11
I also have no experience with headphone amps.
but a b-tech + mod costs only ~70 bucks
and after the mod the sound quallity is amazing...
after modding he sounds like a 300$ amp. :)


I've been considering doing a Millet Minimax for a while, found a great kit with everything included. Any DIY amp is going to perform great for the cost compared to retail amps :)

so what sort of setup would you use? im wanting to change from a astro mixamp to something alot better sounding but with the functionality

iv seen people running through a small desktop mixer but where does the amp fit in and what kind of thing would i need? i know about the modding side a little as i use to with guitars and amps but still a n00b :)

That would most likely be non xbox related. However if i did want to use it on the xbox i would go with the dss and one of the mixers posted here most likely.

Right now I have an Astro Mixamp + AD700, and I run it through a fiio e7 which i randomly plugged in to see if it would take away some buzz i was having, and it did.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:48 PM - 10/19/11
Ahh right, what's dss?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 11:57 PM - 10/19/11
Sorry, turtle beach earforce dss
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:53 AM - 10/20/11
its a dolby decoder box, which decodes the xbox audio signal into a 5.1 surround sound
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Lunchbox on 11:07 AM - 10/20/11
I was told this headset (A40 Wireless System) is pretty much top of the line, but the price is way to much.

http://www.astrogaming.com/wireless-systems-1/a40-wireless-systems/a40-wireless-system
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:28 AM - 10/20/11
I was told this headset (A40 Wireless System) is pretty much top of the line, but the price is way to much.

http://www.astrogaming.com/wireless-systems-1/a40-wireless-systems/a40-wireless-system

!!!

That is a hefty top of the line price point for sure.  The A40's are nice, but not worth that much.  You'd be better off just buying the wireless mixamp by itself and then picking up a pair of audio technica ad700's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:58 AM - 10/20/11
Nice but mines better :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:35 PM - 10/20/11
I was told this headset (A40 Wireless System) is pretty much top of the line, but the price is way to much.

http://www.astrogaming.com/wireless-systems-1/a40-wireless-systems/a40-wireless-system

280$ for an astro headset?
for real?

280$ man, you can get a dt880 or a hd598 + DSS/mixamp for that price
not wireless but undoubfully better than what an astro a40 can "output" :)

the guy that gave you this advice just looked at the price, but in this case high price aint high quality
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 07:23 PM - 10/20/11
Can you skool me here?  Is the HD598 a 5.1/7.1 surround sound headset or just stereo?  They appear to be the latter from what I can find.  Why would that even be considered for gaming?  I must be missing something.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:49 PM - 10/20/11
Can you skool me here?  Is the HD598 a 5.1/7.1 surround sound headset or just stereo?  They appear to be the latter from what I can find.  Why would that even be considered for gaming?  I must be missing something.

They are normal stereo headphones.

You get a dolby headphone decoder like turtle beach earforce dss or astro mixamp and pair it with decent headphones and optionially a headphone amp. Read this: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/home-theater/dolby-headphone.html?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:17 PM - 10/20/11
surround sound headphones are a gimmick, nothing more nothing less, a decent stereo headset would destroy any of the top of the line surround sound gaming headphones with ease
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 10:33 PM - 10/20/11
I must be dense.  I'm still not getting it.  How can you get surround sound from 2 drivers, regardless of using a mixamp? 

I'll be the first to admit 5.1 headphones can't come anywhere near a true 5.1 system due to the proximity of all the drivers next to your ear, but I can't for the life of me see how a pair of stereo phones can get the same effect (nevermind better) as a true surround set.

***edit:  I did read the link Stetab sent, but I didn't see the more details link at first.  It clearly says what I disbelieved LOL.  So I guess Dolby ProLogic II can emulate surround sound on stereo, but I didn't realize most mixamps even supported it.  Now that I look, my Tritton AXPros mixamp does.  Go figure.
I still refuse to believe emulated surround sound can compare to dedicated drivers/channels.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 10:35 PM - 10/20/11
Based on only reviews that I have read, apparently the ultimate combo is the AKG-702 (or the slightly revamped AKG-Q701) combined with the Earforce DSS and a headphone emp (fiio E9).

2nd place (can't go wrong) would be the HD598

For sure, again based on tests/reviews, the DSS is better than the mixamp.

Rightnow, I just got done selling my X41 wireless headset, and the first thing I'm going to buy is a Earforce DSS.  For headphones I'm considering the JVC-HARX 700s as these are the best bang for the buck gaming headphones($35-$48).   
Why did you sell your X41?
Are they not good? I was thinking about buying them today, but I held off because I wanted to learn what other headsets there were that might be better.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:38 PM - 10/20/11
I must be dense.  I'm still not getting it.  How can you get surround sound from 2 drivers, regardless of using a mixamp? 

I'll be the first to admit 5.1 headphones can't come anywhere near a true 5.1 system due to the proximity of all the drivers next to your ear, but I can't for the life of me see how a pair of stereo phones can get the same effect (nevermind better) as a true surround set.

rtfm :P
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/professional/technology/home-theater/dolby-headphone.html

Quote from: Dolby
It’s an astonishing acoustic illusion, and here’s how it works: When you listen to entertainment through your stereo or home theater system’s speakers, your ears receive both direct sound from each speaker and multiple reflections from the room's surfaces and furnishings. Using powerful digital signal processing technology, Dolby Headphone re-creates this audio experience, producing the sonic signature of a corresponding speaker system properly placed in a carefully defined acoustic environment. The result is a spacious audio landscape with you at the center.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 10:42 PM - 10/20/11
If that works so well, why even have a true 5.1 system in your house?  LOL.  Fakery.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:43 PM - 10/20/11
I must be dense.  I'm still not getting it.  How can you get surround sound from 2 drivers, regardless of using a mixamp? 

I'll be the first to admit 5.1 headphones can't come anywhere near a true 5.1 system due to the proximity of all the drivers next to your ear, but I can't for the life of me see how a pair of stereo phones can get the same effect (nevermind better) as a true surround set.

You cant, they can just alter the sound so it sounds similar to a sound coming from the back right. Your 3D hearing in real life is based on learning how a sound sounds like. The ear can not position direction but the brain can. People who regain their hearing can not pinpoint direction they have to learn it.
Some say with dolby our hearing has learned something wrong, distorted sound. That is why I am now trying to relearn Stereo. I am giving it two weeks. The undistorted stereo not mangled through a Dolby processor sound has better quality no question. If I can point out positions in two weeks I will see.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:45 PM - 10/20/11
If that works so well, why even have a true 5.1 system in your house?  LOL.  Fakery.

Who knows? $300 headphones sound better than a $300 5.1 setup and I don't bother my neighbors that way :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 10:46 PM - 10/20/11
rtfm :P
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/professional/technology/home-theater/dolby-headphone.html

Quote from: Dolby
It’s an astonishing acoustic illusion, and here’s how it works: When you listen to entertainment through your stereo or home theater system’s speakers, your ears receive both direct sound from each speaker and multiple reflections from the room's surfaces and furnishings. Using powerful digital signal processing technology, Dolby Headphone re-creates this audio experience, producing the sonic signature of a corresponding speaker system properly placed in a carefully defined acoustic environment. The result is a spacious audio landscape with you at the center.

It would help linking to the ACTUAL page that contains the information you quote.  ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:47 PM - 10/20/11
rtfm :P
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/professional/technology/home-theater/dolby-headphone.html

Quote from: Dolby
It’s an astonishing acoustic illusion, and here’s how it works: When you listen to entertainment through your stereo or home theater system’s speakers, your ears receive both direct sound from each speaker and multiple reflections from the room's surfaces and furnishings. Using powerful digital signal processing technology, Dolby Headphone re-creates this audio experience, producing the sonic signature of a corresponding speaker system properly placed in a carefully defined acoustic environment. The result is a spacious audio landscape with you at the center.

It would help linking to the ACTUAL page that contains the information you quote.  ;)


Well that quote was the only good part of the page i pulled it from, and the link seemed to have good technical info.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:50 PM - 10/20/11
I must be dense.  I'm still not getting it.  How can you get surround sound from 2 drivers, regardless of using a mixamp? 

I'll be the first to admit 5.1 headphones can't come anywhere near a true 5.1 system due to the proximity of all the drivers next to your ear, but I can't for the life of me see how a pair of stereo phones can get the same effect (nevermind better) as a true surround set.

You cant, they can just alter the sound so it sounds similar to a sound coming from the back right. Your 3D hearing in real life is based on learning how a sound sounds like. The ear can not position direction but the brain can. People who regain their hearing can not pinpoint direction they have to learn it.
Some say with dolby our hearing has learned something wrong, distorted sound. That is why I am now trying to relearn Stereo. I am giving it two weeks. The undistorted stereo not mangled through a Dolby processor sound has better quality no question. If I can point out positions in two weeks I will see.

I played with turtle beach x1 for years and could determine where people were coming from just fine. I do like dolby headphone better though. I'd rather take the optical out from the xbox than the analog anyway, makes me feel cooler.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 10:52 PM - 10/20/11
Well that quote was the only good part of the page i pulled it from, and the link seemed to have more technical info.

I found the more compelling information on the details page.  Especially:
Quote
Dolby Headphone accomplishes this by using Dolby Pro Logic® II to expand stereo content to 5.1 channels (and, in some headphones, Dolby Pro Logic IIz technology to achieve up to 7.1 channels of surround sound). What you hear is surround sound so compelling, you won’t believe it comes from a stereo source.

But now I'm just picking on ya :) .  Thanks for the infos.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 10:54 PM - 10/20/11
If that works so well, why even have a true 5.1 system in your house?  LOL.  Fakery.

Who knows? $300 headphones sound better than a $300 5.1 setup and I don't bother my neighbors that way :)

I guess.  I'm more prone to wanting the high bass response that headphones simply can't give.  And screw the neighbors :D
Anyhoo, consider me convinced.  Can't argue with Dolby!  If they it works, I must believe.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:57 PM - 10/20/11
Souver, one of the few guys that felt the Sts being FU somehow and is a very good COD player, uses a pair of HD650 (<-sooooon!) on the cinch plugs directly. He claims to have wallhack like surround hearing on Stereo. That is why I will give it a go. The problem is, you cant just change the plugs and listen. Right now on Stereo I hear right and left and barelly position a sound at all. But its day 1 LOL.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:00 PM - 10/20/11
i garuntee if you switch off all dolby srs effects and go back to just plain stereo with a few sessions you will be able to pinpoint people across the map, thats how i used to play css turn off all the crap, limit the bass to 120 and blaze through everyone like butter

now black ops the audio is truely dia! never heard such crap from such a high profile game hence the need for some kind of dolby to try and split the sounds from a 5.1 source

i use the mixamp atm but by the sounds of it ill be selling it and getting a turtle beach thing with amp :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 12:26 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:22 AM - 10/21/11
If that works so well, why even have a true 5.1 system in your house?  LOL.  Fakery.

Who knows? $300 headphones sound better than a $300 5.1 setup and I don't bother my neighbors that way :)

I guess.  I'm more prone to wanting the high bass response that headphones simply can't give.  And screw the neighbors :D
Anyhoo, consider me convinced.  Can't argue with Dolby!  If they it works, I must believe.

get a closed dt880 or dt770 from beyerdynamic then, the bass of the 770 pro lets my head shake if i turn it on max
actually its far too much to enjoy it, usually you stay with 40-50% bass with this headphones
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:31 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 07:37 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
I've had headphones before and they are more than loud enough. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:40 AM - 10/21/11
Some headphones will need an amp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:09 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
I've had headphones before and they are more than loud enough. Am I missing something?

How did you connect them?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:26 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
I've had headphones before and they are more than loud enough. Am I missing something?

depends on the "ohm value" that your headset/connectorcable has
the lower the ohm value, the louder the sound

some headphones have 300-400 ohm, which definitely needs an amp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:27 AM - 10/21/11
My Beyers are 80 Ohm and also the HD598 I think. Both are not loud enough without an amplifier on the Xbox
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:15 AM - 10/21/11
If that works so well, why even have a true 5.1 system in your house?  LOL.  Fakery.

Who knows? $300 headphones sound better than a $300 5.1 setup and I don't bother my neighbors that way :)

I guess.  I'm more prone to wanting the high bass response that headphones simply can't give.  And screw the neighbors :D
Anyhoo, consider me convinced.  Can't argue with Dolby!  If they it works, I must believe.

get a closed dt880 or dt770 from beyerdynamic then, the bass of the 770 pro lets my head shake if i turn it on max
actually its far too much to enjoy it, usually you stay with 40-50% bass with this headphones

I think he wants enough bass to make his heart beat irregular :P
Ultrasone Pro 900 is supposed to have some big bass. Amazon sells them for 350, everywhere else for 550, so its a good deal through them.



Souver, one of the few guys that felt the Sts being FU somehow and is a very good COD player, uses a pair of HD650 (<-sooooon!) on the cinch plugs directly. He claims to have wallhack like surround hearing on Stereo. That is why I will give it a go. The problem is, you cant just change the plugs and listen. Right now on Stereo I hear right and left and barelly position a sound at all. But its day 1 LOL.

I feel like the positioning is not as good in stereo. You will be able to tell where people are, halfway through sound and halfway through map/game knowledge. You'll probably find yourself turning a little bit left and right to pinpoint where you hear a sound at, i did that a lot. Then again i was using @#$% turtle beach x1s so that was probably half the reason :P When I get the right cable i'll do a back to back comparison with the ad700 mixamp vs ad700 straight through the xbox.




Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
I've had headphones before and they are more than loud enough. Am I missing something?


Some headphones do, some don't. You'll never be able to drive a 600ohm headphone with an ipod for example. I find that a decent amp will usually make any headphones sound better though, not just the high ohm ones that require it. the fiio amps on amazon are good quality and very cheap. I just bought a fiio e7 amp/dac combo and its great, big improvement form just plugging into my laptop sound card. I use it with audiotechnica ad700 and I love it. I've used a fiio e3 before and made a little cmoy amp in an altoids tin, both of which i used with some sennheiser ear buds and the line out dock on my ipod.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 10:23 AM - 10/21/11
Why would you need an amp for headphones?

Cause its not loud enough without an AMP?
I've had headphones before and they are more than loud enough. Am I missing something?

How did you connect them?
I just plug the headphones into the audio jack of whatever device I'm using.
What other way is there?

Do you guys know something I don't?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:31 AM - 10/21/11
no but i guess you plug just every Headset into some little box that comes with your headset. Now what do you think is that black box? Yeah its an amp of whatever sort. Connect your bare headphone (cans on a cord) to the cinch connectors of the Xbox and the headset wont be loud, its rather quiet.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:42 AM - 10/21/11
your current headphones are made for mp3 players, therefore you can just plug them in
actually almost any headphones are low ohm ones, only the expensive sets have higher ohm values (but not all of them)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:07 PM - 10/21/11
Nope my 80 Ohm are not loud enough without amp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:49 PM - 10/21/11
Nope my 80 Ohm are not loud enough without amp.

but 80 ohm can easily be powered by my ipod
(and i am using the same headphones as you, maybe its the xbox or you got the 250 ohm version?)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:54 PM - 10/21/11
Its for sure the 80 ohm version Odin. On cinch they are quiet, really quiet.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 01:10 PM - 10/21/11
Well, hmmm. I don't know.
I've only used headphones with my PC, iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Never actually hooked them to my Xbox.
I was considering buying headphones for my Xbox when I got a discount from Amazon when I preordered Battlefield 3 or MW3. I can't remember which.

But, when I used to play FPS games on my PC I could always hear better, so I thought that might help me on the Xbox as well. So I started shopping around and almost every pair of xbox headphones with a mic is $100 or more.

I almost bought the Ear Force X41's but I held off to learn more about Xbox headphones.

You guys tell me what to buy.

I don't know what I'm doing anymore. The headphones I used to wear for PC gaming didn't have surround sound. They just had regular speakers in them, with a really cool vibrating subwoofer feature in each ear that made bass and explosions and gun fire sound pretty amazing.

my old headphones:

AOpen HP-590
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=n82e16826106405
usa.aopen.com/product_detail.aspx?auno=1028
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:56 PM - 10/21/11
Its for sure the 80 ohm version Odin. On cinch they are quiet, really quiet.

you have tested the dt770 on the chinch?

Yes, similar as HD598 that have 50 Ohm.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:58 PM - 10/21/11
by all means,, your old headphone offers far better sound quality than those 100$ headsets

see, on the console theres close to no competition, 3-4 competitors that are all equal in quality

so what you should do now
buy a turtle beach dss for 50-60$ and use it with your old headphones, you will see it will play very very well :)

and once you are ready to make the next step, you can think about a more expensive headphone
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 02:04 PM - 10/21/11
The xbox is probably putting out line level sound because its meant to go into amp or something with an amp like a tv.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 02:18 PM - 10/21/11
Which would be considered a top notch headset along with the turtle beach DSS? I really dont have a price limit so please help me out if possible.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 02:52 PM - 10/21/11
Which one of those two are the better ons and do u jut plug hem into the tutle beach DSS and voila? Don't really get the concept of building a mic on my own so u'll have to guide me on that hehe.

Feel free to post post other headphones/headsets that u guys are considering realy good and works with the DSS
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:18 PM - 10/21/11
Really wish I could blast my 5.1 speakers in my place.... Tis true it will trump headset 5.1 matrix and true surround any day of the week when set up properly and loud enough. Just not practical. Thats a big reason I still go to the movie theatres for action and horror flix.... The sound in some of those places is amazing.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:21 PM - 10/21/11
You want amazing sound... Strat + tube amp.  Done.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:23 PM - 10/21/11
Lol tuff beleive it or not ive heard some less than adequate tube amps... But yes tube is the best way to go. My personal favorite... Rivera knucklehead... Fender clean and mesa od.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 03:37 PM - 10/21/11
Which one of the turtle beach headsets are the bst ones to use then, along with the DSS an get a good sound (srs). Or just a headset with a mic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 03:52 PM - 10/21/11
I sold my X41 because:
1.) Too uncomfortable.  These headphones would give me MAJOR Ear Cramps, when playing for over 1 hour.
2.) 2.4 ghz.  They did provide hiss, and some SNAP, Crackle, POP, when the game was silent, but it wasn't that bothersome.  From my researching, I don't have to live with this since other wireless gaming headsets out don't have hiss and use a 5.8 ghz frequency.  Actually, I thought the sound was pretty good when turned up.
3.) Directional Sounds were kind of off.  I could hear the surround effects, but it would be hard to tell exactly wear that sound was coming from.  Watching videos of people with a DSS and a good Audio headphone and seeing them practically spot someone exactly behind a wall was pretty mind-blowing to me.

So in all I wanted the best, or at least something much better. I plan on buying a DSS and a JVC HArx 700 to start off with.  Then figure out how to setup a high sound quality mic and audio mixer, thats affordable and small) I don't chat that much at all, so it's not a biggie for me.

Anyone hear should read this entire review of all these stereo headphone with the Astro Mixamp from Shin DZ at headfi.org.  He pretty much goes through all of them.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 04:57 PM - 10/21/11
Roads and N00B should be using these I think

http://www.amazon.com/German-Maestro-GMP-400-Headphones/dp/B002LVUKEM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1319237624&sr=8-5
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:02 PM - 10/21/11
I've always wanted to try really high end headphones like those or the hd 800
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 08:41 AM - 10/22/11
Just wanting to know. I got the tritton ax pro's today and compared to my pc setup goldring dr150s connected to a asus xonar doing dolby headphone they are that good. So im going to return then.

Any idea if i can get a box for the PS3 to do dolby headphone with my DR150s?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:46 AM - 10/22/11
you can get an external soundcard, a decoder box like the mixamp or the dss, a real audio receiver OR you check out your asus xonar

most high end soundcards allow a 5.1 in and out, so the xonar does the job
disadvantage, your pc must be next to your xbox
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:49 AM - 10/22/11
Just wanting to know. I got the tritton ax pro's today and compared to my pc setup goldring dr150s connected to a asus xonar doing dolby headphone they are that good. So im going to return then.

Any idea if i can get a box for the PS3 to do dolby headphone with my DR150s?

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Channel-Dolby-Surround-Processor-Mac/dp/B003O0KICS/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=468642&s=videogames

http://www.astrogaming.com/mixamp-usb
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 08:59 AM - 10/22/11
Which one is better lol? With the PS3 am i able to use the microphone also? I would need a box with a mic jack because my DR150 dont have a mic. I use a clip on one.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:08 AM - 10/22/11
sound quality apparently the turtle beach dss (i havent used it myself) as a plus its cheaper
ease of setup and use i'd say the mixamp and you can mix in some music or audiobooks while you pwn

I too use a clip mic for now
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 09:10 AM - 10/22/11
So the DSS has a mic jack that i could use for the PS3?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:14 AM - 10/22/11
some people use this in combo with the turtle beach dss to get chat sound http://steelseries.com/products/consoles/steelseries-spectrum-audio-mixer-xb

a few people use something like this http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802/
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 09:58 AM - 10/22/11
Steelseries thing only works for pc and xbox.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:11 AM - 10/22/11
Yeah you are right, I didn't read your post all the way :P you could use any Bluetooth mic with ps3 right? maybe that's an option. The mixamp hooks right up to the ps3 through USB though
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:10 PM - 10/22/11
dss doesnt come with a mic jack, so you need additional mixers for the chat
the mixamp instead is a complete combination of both but it costs more and las a weaker sound
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 12:14 PM - 10/22/11
I aint using usb bllue tooth lol.

Anyone got any idea of a good setup with stereo headphones and a clip on mic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 12:14 PM - 10/22/11
Probs have to buy a headset with a mic on it with the DSS?

What about this?

http://store.turtlebeach.com/p21headphonesfortheplaystation3-1-1.aspx

I cannot see it saying it does dolby headphone. It has the DSS paired with it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:38 PM - 10/22/11
Its easier to get the tbs with the dss.... Dss I believe stands for dolby surround sound? Im not sure on that but if you get anything other than tbs with the dss youll have to get another mic and another way to mix chat and game sound.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 01:30 PM - 10/22/11
I aint using usb bllue tooth lol.

Anyone got any idea of a good setup with stereo headphones and a clip on mic.

I just said bluetooth mic might be an option because they are hella cheap and you seemed like you wanted to use the dss over the mixamp. However, the mixamp will allow you to hook up your current clip mic and headphones with no extra purchases. Your current headphones are better than any of the turtle beach headsets.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:04 PM - 10/22/11
Sweet!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 08:39 PM - 10/22/11
how much did that cost Noobstradamus
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 09:55 PM - 10/22/11
Looks like I'm getting rid of my Tritton AXPros... I wish a thread like this existed prior to me buying those @#$% things!

The article that Professor sent has some good information from what I can tell.  Does anyone here have any comments towards what homeboy had to say in his reviews?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone (http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone)

So I'm not about doing mods n @#$%.  With that and the article in mind, I'm really leaning towards the PC360 + Astro 5.8 wireless combo.  Any thoughts?  The wireless concerns me somewhat though I'd love to have it.  Also with the comment that the mixamp would have weaker sounds than the DSS.  Can you use an amp to counteract that?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:36 AM - 10/23/11
187€ + 3€ shipping to silent + a fee for silents work = your mod ;)

im sure silent will mod your headset for an appropriate but fair price
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Joker76 on 08:47 AM - 10/24/11
So I'm not about doing mods n @#$%.  With that and the article in mind, I'm really leaning towards the PC360 + Astro 5.8 wireless combo.  Any thoughts?  The wireless concerns me somewhat though I'd love to have it.  Also with the comment that the mixamp would have weaker sounds than the DSS.  Can you use an amp to counteract that?

I have the PC360s with the wireless Mixamp and I love them. Sound is great, directional cues are right on the money and they are very comfortable. If you get this setup, you will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:43 AM - 10/24/11
pc360 is a top headset and all you need for gaming
much better than anything you can get from razer, turtle beach or tritton, BUT not as good as a real headphone

if you target to use it for gaming, then yes, an excellent choice
for movies you might want to have more bass and soundstage though
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:07 AM - 10/24/11
I tried the pc360 and found them crap. "Gaming headset" is Chinese and is translated as "we sell you crap".
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Joker76 on 10:46 AM - 10/24/11
if you target to use it for gaming, then yes, an excellent choice
for movies you might want to have more bass and soundstage though

The 360s are basically the same as the HD555s, just with a mic attached. I 've never found the bass to be lacking personally but the wireless Mixamp has bass boost, as does my X-fi if needed. I listen to a lot of lossless music and play a lot of games. Movies are usually reserved for my living room but I would think that the audio processing on most sound cards would allow you to improve the bass and/or soundstage.

The 360s are a great all-in-one solution for someone who doesn't want to mess around with modding or having a separate mic. That's the reason I chose them, and I'm happy with em.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:36 AM - 10/24/11
I tried the pc360 and found them crap. "Gaming headset" is Chinese and is translated as "we sell you crap".

as for a gaming headset its all you need and has more quality than competitive headsets
your audio-ears are just too picky roads, you have listened to much more expensive headphones ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:02 PM - 10/24/11
I still like my sony mdr7506.... Havnt gotten around to modding them though. Im a sucker for a flat frequency response though it seems harder to achieve.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:08 PM - 10/24/11
I tried the pc360 and found them crap. "Gaming headset" is Chinese and is translated as "we sell you crap".

as for a gaming headset its all you need and has more quality than competitive headsets
your audio-ears are just too picky roads, you have listened to much more expensive headphones ;)

You guys are KILLING me.  This is how I ended up with the Trittons!!!   Just as many people say they are awesome as those saying they suck.  GRRRR
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:24 PM - 10/24/11
Good for you?  lol.  j/k.

I just want to avoid wasting another couple hundred dollars.  Especially if the PC360 is "crap" as Roads stated.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:24 PM - 10/24/11
Just do ad700 + clip mic + pipe cleaner paired with a mixamp for cheap and good
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:26 PM - 10/24/11
Good for you?  lol.  j/k.

I just want to avoid wasting another couple hundred dollars.  Especially if the PC360 is "crap" as Roads stated.

I think he's referring to build quality and they are much better than trittons
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:27 PM - 10/24/11
remember fatal alot of these guys are very serious about their gaming audio... If your not that picky I would go with whats easiest for you... Currently im using the tb x11s which arnt great but they get the job done. In the near future I will be moding my 7506s though and getting the mixer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:30 PM - 10/24/11
So I'm not about doing mods n @#$%.  With that and the article in mind, I'm really leaning towards the PC360 + Astro 5.8 wireless combo.  Any thoughts?  The wireless concerns me somewhat though I'd love to have it.  Also with the comment that the mixamp would have weaker sounds than the DSS.  Can you use an amp to counteract that?

I have the PC360s with the wireless Mixamp and I love them. Sound is great, directional cues are right on the money and they are very comfortable. If you get this setup, you will not be disappointed.

Thx Joker.  Unfortunately I was told that same thing about the Tritton AxPros.  I did all kinds of research before I bought them with many people saying they were better than the A40s (although there were just as many people that stated otherwise).  I chose my desire to have true 5.1 vs. virtual as the vote breaker.

Now while I'm not entirely disappointed with the Trittons, I have this thing where I always need the best (within reason), hence having a XIM :D .  There have been times I have had difficulty in pinpointing directions, especially behind me which is nerve wracking.  I just figured that was due to the close proximity of the drivers to my ears.  What I'm reading now is that they are just poor altogether.  I don't know what to believe.

I'm seeing all sorts of articles that say the PC360's are awesome (though maybe not the best).  But I'm seeing others say they suck entirely.  WTH.  It's just too subjective I suppose.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:32 PM - 10/24/11
So I'm not about doing mods n @#$%.  With that and the article in mind, I'm really leaning towards the PC360 + Astro 5.8 wireless combo.  Any thoughts?  The wireless concerns me somewhat though I'd love to have it.  Also with the comment that the mixamp would have weaker sounds than the DSS.  Can you use an amp to counteract that?

I have the PC360s with the wireless Mixamp and I love them. Sound is great, directional cues are right on the money and they are very comfortable. If you get this setup, you will not be disappointed.

Thx Joker.  Unfortunately I was told that same thing about the Tritton AxPros.  I did all kinds of research before I bought them with many people saying they were better than the A40s (although there were just as many people that stated otherwise).  I chose my desire to have true 5.1 vs. virtual as the vote breaker.

Now while I'm not entirely disappointed with the Trittons, I have this thing where I always need the best (within reason), hence having a XIM :D .  There have been times I have had difficulty in pinpointing directions, especially behind me which is nerve wracking.  I just figured that was due to the close proximity of the drivers to my ears.  What I'm reading now is that they are just poor altogether.  I don't know what to believe.

I'm seeing all sorts of articles that say the PC360's are awesome (though maybe not the best).  But I'm seeing others say they suck entirely.  WTH.  It's just too subjective I suppose.

Dude... I can pin point audio cues with my $35 JVC HARX700's and the DSS that I never could when I used Tritton AxPro's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:33 PM - 10/24/11
Those JVC's are a hidden gem that most don't know.  The airyness of the a700 with bass =) lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:33 PM - 10/24/11
Good for you?  lol.  j/k.

I just want to avoid wasting another couple hundred dollars.  Especially if the PC360 is "crap" as Roads stated.

I think he's referring to build quality and they are much better than trittons

Roads, can you confirm?  I really don't care about build quality.  I just need performance.

remember fatal alot of these guys are very serious about their gaming audio... If your not that picky I would go with whats easiest for you... Currently im using the tb x11s which arnt great but they get the job done. In the near future I will be moding my 7506s though and getting the mixer.

True true.  I'm not entirely dissatisfied with the Trittons outside of them hurting my ears (cups are too shallow).  I am just one of those that prefers the best of the best, again within reason.  I don't want to get the pc360s and have them be hardly any better than what I have now.  $300 ain't no joke.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:34 PM - 10/24/11
Dude... I can pin point audio cues with my $35 JVC HARX700's and the DSS that I never could when I used Tritton AxPro's.

Lol for the most part I have no problem.  And I read all sorts of reviews where people say they are really good at directional queues.  This is annoying LOL.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:35 PM - 10/24/11
I just want to avoid wasting another couple hundred dollars.

hmm.... maybe a 5.1 sombrero is the right thing for you^^ ;)

(http://h4.abload.de/img/sombreroxoio.jpg)

WORD!!!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:46 PM - 10/24/11
This is how I ended up with the Trittons!!!   Just as many people say they are awesome as those saying they suck.  GRRRR
yea, people who have previously a 20 dollar headset and than go to trittons.
these people will find the tritton well ;)
but all people how have ever heard really good sound..
these people know how @#$% sounds the Trittons ;)

That's what I was leaning on too, however.. going back to that article that dude reviewed all sorts of headphones/sets.  He seems to know what he's talking about and has experience with a bit of them.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone (http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone)
 
Can anyone refute any of these remarks?
 
Quote
Sennheiser PC360 (ADDED 1/21/2011)

JUST GET IT NOW. Seriously, if you want a headset, don't even think twice. Get it. NAO. Easily the best headset I have heard. THE BEST. [I realize he says headset not headphone]
 
Clarity? Check. 8/10
It lags behind the AD700, K70x, and HD598, but for gaming, it is NO slouch. Trust me, you won't need it any more clear than it is. I won every single match in CoD4. EVERY SINGLE ONE. I can say that it COULD be clearer as a whole, but no other headSET comes close. [I guess here is the key to this review]
 
Balance? Check. 9/10
There is no part of the audio spectrum that I felt was truly emphasized over the rest. Well balanced. That's all I can say. Treble is neither too smooth, nor too sparkly. It sounded neutral. Fantastic.
 
Soundstage? Check. 8.5/10
Obviously lagging behind the monsters that are the K70x and AD700, but is indeed no slouch. I'd say it has a bigger soundstage than the DT990. Fantastic sense of space and airiness.
 
Directional Cues? Check. 9.5/10
What can I say? This may actually be as good as the best when it comes to overall directionality. Trust me when I say that I could EASILY tell where everyone was around me.
 
Easy to discern front and back? Check! 10/10
Perhaps the most important aspect of Dolby Headphone, and the PC360 got it down masterfully.
 
This is my first hour's impression. If you're in the market for a headSET, this should be the top priority. If you're looking for clarity, I'd say that the others mentioned have it beat, but the PC360 does a fine job with all the clarity it gives.
 
Unless there is a dramatic change:
 
Fun: 7/10 (well balanced, but not really matching the punch in bass I like from funner cans, though the bass is enjoyable).

Competitive: 9.5/10 (I highly doubt you'll be complaining about anything as you're precisely locating anything and everything around you).

If these indeed sound exactly the same as the 595 (or modded 555s), then unless you really need a mic and volume control all in one package, you'll be saving money by going with the 555's and modding them for the 595 sound and attach a mic. However, the PC360 can be had for around $180, and brings everything in one very attractive package. I can't say anything about the 555 and 595, but the PC360 is definitely a gaming beast.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:47 PM - 10/24/11
Those JVC's are a hidden gem that most don't know.  The airyness of the a700 with bass =) lol

Yea... I giggle on the inside every time I pick them up.  "I only spent $35 on these, CHUMPS!!!"

Oh, and for the record.  They are not closed back cans.  They are semi-open.  Shine a flashlight at the inside of the cup while looking at the back of it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:49 PM - 10/24/11
I tried the pc360 and found them crap. "Gaming headset" is Chinese and is translated as "we sell you crap".

as for a gaming headset its all you need and has more quality than competitive headsets
your audio-ears are just too picky roads, you have listened to much more expensive headphones ;)

You guys are KILLING me.  This is how I ended up with the Trittons!!!   Just as many people say they are awesome as those saying they suck.  GRRRR

so what?

the pc360 is all you need for gaming when you need an all in one solution
same is the ad700 from audio technica if it should be just headphones

anything else will ofc grant better audio quality but is not needed to have an awesome positioning + really nice sound
saying better audio quality aka better headset than this wont make you a better gamer, theres no remarkable difference anymore thats worth to invest another 200$ positioning-wise
and at no point any tritton crapset can be compared to a pc360

so if you need an all in one solution, you will be happy with it
if you are willing to use a external microphone, you can even get better audio results for less money
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 03:56 PM - 10/24/11
You guys are KILLING me.  This is how I ended up with the Trittons!!!   Just as many people say they are awesome as those saying they suck.  GRRRR

so what?

the pc360 is all you need for gaming when you need an all in one solution
same is the ad700 from audio technica if it should be just headphones

anything else will ofc grant better audio quality but is not needed to have an awesome positioning + really nice sound
saying better audio quality aka better headset than this wont make you a better gamer, theres no remarkable difference anymore thats worth to invest another 200$ positioning-wise
and at no point any tritton crapset can be compared to a pc360

so if you need an all in one solution, you will be happy with it
if you are willing to use a external microphone, you can even get better audio results for less money

Thanks Od1n.  I really appreciate your guys' feedback.  I'm definitely not arguing with ya! 

Complete headset solution aside, what would you suggest with an external mic solution?  Would this work or is there a better solution?  I see the AD700s are touted a lot.  Not sure on the MIC perspective.

http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b (http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b)

http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b/187-7226716-0028954 (http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b/187-7226716-0028954)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:11 PM - 10/24/11
Gaming Headset (any)<pc360<AD700<Beyer 770 pro, HD598<HD650, Beyer 880
mixamp<cinch only<DSS<Stereo amp like FiioE9

But that may only be me
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 04:36 PM - 10/24/11
@Fatal 0Efx
why you want to buy a headset??
if you show me any headset for $99 i can show you a headphone for $55 which sounds much better...
if you show me any headset for $150 i can show you a headphone for $75 which sounds much better...
if you show me any headset for $300 i can show you a headphone for $150 which sounds much better...
and so on....

please don't be stupid.. don't buy a headset..

with a good headphone+ mic you will become more for your money..
better sound, better quality, more confortable and less price ;)

i hope you can read my crapy english^^

Thanks N00b.  I definitely don't want to be "stupid" LOL.

For your untouched mods, how exactly does your mic connect to the headphones?  Is the MIC just taped to the original headphone cable?  I'm assuming since it's untouched.


Gaming Headset (any)<pc360<AD700<Beyer 770 pro, HD598<HD650, Beyer 880
mixamp<cinch only<DSS<Stereo amp like FiioE9

But that may only be me

I actually intended to get a Fiio amp along with the mixamp.  And I'm definitely not getting any Senn HDs.. those things are way too expensive.  My max for this is $350 for the entire solution, including the mixamp/dss.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:42 PM - 10/24/11
ofc you two are right roads/silent, BUT if you just want to gain the best audio positioning advantage a pc360 or an ad700 is all you need

the difference to lets say a 300$ headset is mostly in the soundstage
but thats nothing you need to perfectly define an opponents footsteps

i need to admit, the 300$ headset gives a tiny little bit better clarity on where your target is, BUT the relation to the money that this headset costs is just out of bounds
also this little difference wont allow you to be better, to make more kills, to die less and to know more than others know
i mean ofc you can buy a core i7 995 extreme edition for 1000$ with 3,6ghz, but a 3,4ghz clocked i7 2600k almost does the same job for 300$
the difference is just too small to justify the price IF all you are aiming for is gaming and positioning aka audio advantage

for no other reason all the pc pro gamers used the affordable hd 555 or 595 back in the days when there was no sponsoring, now they have to use the crap razer brands for marketing

its just a nicer sound for the ears giving a nicer athmosphere and gaming experience
but its definitely not needed to have the best audio positioning for the money

personally, im a guy that like to have a nice gaming experience as well, hence im using the pricy headphones, but i do not see just one point for why a person should spend a fortune if all he wants is to pinpoint opponents foosteps ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 05:10 PM - 10/24/11
personally, im a guy that like to have a nice gaming experience as well, hence im using the pricy headphones, but i do not see just one point for why a person should spend a fortune if all he wants is to pinpoint opponents foosteps ;)

Clarification... I am not only interested in the directional cues.  I want an awesome gaming experience.  I'm only using headphones in order to not annoy my neighbors.  Otherwise I'd have my true 7.1 system cranked.  Given that I have to sacrifice there, I don't want to sacrifice anywhere else.  With that said I'm also not interested in spending $500+ either. 

All in all I don't have the top of the line AV receiver/speaker combo so I'm not looking for a top of the line headphone solution.  I want something that sounds great, including sound stage, directional cues, bass response, etc.  Of course now that I said bass I'm sure this conversation will take another left as I'm seeing many of these headsets/phones don't have the greatest in terms of bass response.  *sigh*

Anyway, so what I'm hearing is a pc360 is a viable solution, but per N00b, I can get a better experience for less with a real headphone and external mic.  If that's the case, is my only pro/plus for the pc360 an integrated mic?  That's definitely not worth the extra money (vs. AD700s for example) IMO.  What are your thoughts on that Od1n?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 05:30 PM - 10/24/11
@Fatal 0Efx which untouched mod you mean? the beyer or the sennheiser?

Senn
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:34 PM - 10/24/11
You've already been told a hundred times to just get some headphones and a clip mic. Read what the kid said about the ad700 on the linked head fi post! Also keep in mind that the Deutscher Bereich Hive Mind only started cheering for stereo sound straight out of the xbox because Lord Souver hath spoken on it's behalf. AD700 is the bang for the buck champ and the best one for directional cues overall. If I want bass I just use the EQ on my fiio e7 :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:43 PM - 10/24/11
Dude... AD700 FTW.  That is your "best bang for the buck option".  Your cheap option being Koss KSC75's.  I go back and forth between those and my JVC's.  The KSC75's give me better directional cues, but the JVC's just sound so dang good.  The KSC75's with a DSS will knock your socks off if you are used to your Trittons.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 08:33 PM - 10/24/11
Dude... AD700 FTW.  That is your "best bang for the buck option".  Your cheap option being Koss KSC75's.  I go back and forth between those and my JVC's.  The KSC75's give me better directional cues, but the JVC's just sound so dang good.  The KSC75's with a DSS will knock your socks off if you are used to your Trittons.

So in your honest opinion you would chose the AD700's over the JVC HARX 700's?  I gave a look at those KOSS headphones, maybe I might pick some of those up just for fun.  I can't believe those ittle cheapy headphones are as good as you say. wow!

Has anyone here tried the Beyerdynamics MMX300 headset? To me this is the best gaming headset, even better than the PC360. 

Does anyone know how well in-ear headphones would work as supposed to over-the-ear headphones?  I had tried my klipsch s4's on the headphone port of my x41 base unit and the sound was much much better, but maybe  because it was bypassing the wireless all together.  Also, I don't know if that port was 5.1, maybe just stereo.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:58 AM - 10/25/11
Quote
Has anyone here tried the Beyerdynamics MMX300 headset?

Too much bass best described as wood-chopper (when I called at Beyer with the same question they told me so). Get the 770 pros 80 or 250 ohm instead depends what you drive them with.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:28 AM - 10/25/11
Dude... AD700 FTW.  That is your "best bang for the buck option".  Your cheap option being Koss KSC75's.  I go back and forth between those and my JVC's.  The KSC75's give me better directional cues, but the JVC's just sound so dang good.  The KSC75's with a DSS will knock your socks off if you are used to your Trittons.

So in your honest opinion you would chose the AD700's over the JVC HARX 700's?  I gave a look at those KOSS headphones, maybe I might pick some of those up just for fun.  I can't believe those ittle cheapy headphones are as good as you say. wow!


The JVC's and Koss's are so dang inexpensive.  You should buy all three, including the AD700's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:06 AM - 10/25/11

If I want bass I just use the EQ on my fiio e7 :P

yea the amp in the e7 is verry good for this price :)
but the DAC in the e7 is crap :(


But its a lot better than whatever is inside my laptop ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:25 AM - 10/25/11
Ad700s fail, muddy miss high highs and no bass? Gaming? Na just crap
you need a full soundstage that's clear and crisp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:33 AM - 10/25/11
Ad700s fail, muddy miss high highs and no bass? Gaming? Na just crap
you need a full soundstage that's clear and crisp

The vast weight of overwhelmingly popular opinion strongly disagrees with you.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:38 AM - 10/25/11
The vast weight of people coming from skull candies
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:45 AM - 10/25/11
The vast weight of people coming from skull candies

Lol... are you serious?

There are many people on this board who know what good cans sound like, there are even more on head-fi.

AD700's are highly regarded for gaming application.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:52 AM - 10/25/11
Are u serious?  They're the newbs favourite cans cuz they sound ok for gaming but alot better than a headset, there is so much better for the price than these pos'
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:57 AM - 10/25/11
What can you get that is better for around $90?

Also, you just called several respected members of this community, including a mod, a newb.  Good game buddy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:03 AM - 10/25/11
Are u serious?  They're the newbs favourite cans cuz they sound ok for gaming but alot better than a headset, there is so much better for the price than these pos'

Yeah show me something in the <$100 category that is a better competitive gaming headphone than the AD700 please
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:19 AM - 10/25/11
Some shire in ears, sennheisers, razer orcas (look cool and sound good and cheap)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:54 AM - 10/25/11
AD700 + DSS is basic quality for the small purse no doubt if you want to avoid the gaming headset ripoff. The problem is if you have that you lick blood for more.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Pelican on 10:57 AM - 10/25/11
AD700 + DSS is basic quality for the small purse no doubt if you want to avoid the gaming headset ripoff. The problem is if you have that you lick blood for more.
Wait...

What?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:05 AM - 10/25/11
Some shire in ears

Shire?  Did you mean Shure?  Which models have you tried that you like better than AD700's?

sennheisers

Again... Which models have you tried that you like better than AD700's?

razer orcas (look cool and sound good and cheap)

You have honestly tried these and like them better than the AD700's?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:09 AM - 10/25/11
Yeh shure I'm on my phone,   e3gs ages ago sound well good compared to over ears
Hd595s for a start sound million times better and yes the orcas have pretty decent all round sound compared and at cheap price you get alot more for your money not to mention they look alot better saying that razer audio is generally shite
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 11:14 AM - 10/25/11
I'am still trying to decide whether the AD700's along with the DSS or PC 360 along with the astro wireless mixamp is the best choice. Leaning more towards the PC 360 choice even though it costs a bit more but since I will be using the mic a lot and I suppose using the wireless mixamp will reduce the amount of cables I got on my desktop. Not sure though, feel free to enlighten me hehe :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:15 AM - 10/25/11
Did you forget that we are talking in terms of at or below $90.  Out of what you listed, the Razer headset is the only thing that falls into that category.  595's list for about $250... of course they sound better than AD700's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:31 AM - 10/25/11
Oh I'm thinking in pounds, the cheapest we can get ad700s in uk is about 90 so I guess that's 150 maybe more in dollars

Prices are so different lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:44 AM - 10/25/11
Yeh shure I'm on my phone,   e3gs ages ago sound well good compared to over ears
Hd595s for a start sound million times better and yes the orcas have pretty decent all round sound compared and at cheap price you get alot more for your money not to mention they look alot better saying that razer audio is generally shite

have you first burned in the ad700 for about 200h straight?
their stock sound aint anything near the sound you have after the burn-in

but that counts for any stereo headset with large drivers
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:47 AM - 10/25/11
Out of curiosity what sounds do u burn in with? Iv heard white noise is best to burn in with but I don't are how as its not a full variety
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:50 AM - 10/25/11
the best sound is a sound that has a good variation, the membraneshould swing a lot, so bass is also a good thing
besides that, yes it can just be a white noise that fullfills the stuff above
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ChronixLeaf on 01:53 PM - 10/25/11
I love my turtle beach PX5s!!! I love the customization and the wireless
Chat. I just bought really good rechargeable bats and I'm
Golden!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:01 PM - 10/25/11
Hey Tuffrabit,
I found this 4 -channel mixer from Behringer, I like it because it's small, and inexpensive, I wanted to use this to change the in game chat volume on the fly.

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-MX400-4-Channel-Mixer/dp/B000KGYAYQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319572011&sr=8-1

However, the only thing is that it outputs only in mono!  Is that a problem when using it with the Earforce DSS for surround sound.  I know I heard it mentioned to get a mono-to stereo adapter, but is that not ideal as supposed to getting a mixer that just outputs into stereo?  I just wanted a small audio mixer w/ obviously clean sound, unlike the steelseries audio mixer.

Lastly, instead of buying a mixer, can I just customize the chat volume and game volume in the xbox 360 settings? Connecting my DSS straight to my headphones w/ mic mod.

What I don't want is to have it where a teammate or someone speaks and then the game sound goes down and the chat sound goes up.  I want the gamesound to never change. Because that's most important to me.

Thanks for your help and to anyone else!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:16 PM - 10/25/11
Hey Tuffrabit,
I found this 4 -channel mixer from Behringer, I like it because it's small, and inexpensive, I wanted to use this to change the in game chat volume on the fly.

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-MX400-4-Channel-Mixer/dp/B000KGYAYQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319572011&sr=8-1

However, the only thing is that it outputs only in mono!  Is that a problem when using it with the Earforce DSS for surround sound.

Yeah, its a problem.  The DSS outputs in stereo.  That mixer will mess up the DSS's 5.1/7.1 emulation big time.

I know I heard it mentioned to get a mono-to stereo adapter, but is that not ideal as supposed to getting a mixer that just outputs into stereo?  I just wanted a small audio mixer w/ obviously clean sound, unlike the steelseries audio mixer.

A mono-to-stereo adapter wouldn't help here.  You need the mixing circuitry to preserve to original channel structure.  If you really don't want the Steelseries Spectrum mixer then you are gonna have to live with a desk mixer.

Lastly, instead of buying a mixer, can I just customize the chat volume and game volume in the xbox 360 settings? Connecting my DSS straight to my headphones w/ mic mod.

What I don't want is to have it where a teammate or someone speaks and then the game sound goes down and the chat sound goes up.  I want the gamesound to never change. Because that's most important to me.

You can do this, but you have to use the original xbox 360 headset.  Just hang it around your neck.  This works pretty good, I played this way for a little while.  If you go down this route you will have to play with the 360 voice settings a bit.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Ding Chavez on 02:30 PM - 10/25/11
I am using the Turtle Beach X41 headset.  I got them on sale for around $120, and they are only ok.

- They burn through batteries pretty quick and there is no plug-in feature, so factor in rechargeable AAA batteries and a battery charger.
- Really deep low frequency sounds will cause the speakers to crackle and pop, especially with the base boost feature on

I have never owned another headset before, so I don’t have much to compare them too.  Overall, they are comfortable and the 3D sound quality has been good enough that it saved my life multiple times in-game.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:33 PM - 10/25/11
Thanks Tuffrabit,
One more quick question, if I hang the original XBOX 360 headset around my neck, then which speaker set will the persons voice be coming through, through my headphones, or from the single speaker xbox 360 headset around my neck?  Thanks a TON man, I appreciate all of your advice.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:38 PM - 10/25/11
I am using the Turtle Beach X41 headset.  I got them on sale for around $120, and they are only ok.

- They burn through batteries pretty quick and there is no plug-in feature, so factor in rechargeable AAA batteries and a battery charger.
- Really deep low frequency sounds will cause the speakers to crackle and pop, especially with the base boost feature on

I have never owned another headset before, so I don’t have much to compare them too.  Overall, they are comfortable and the 3D sound quality has been good enough that it saved my life multiple times in-game.

Cool that you like them.  I had sold mine mainly because it gave me bad ear cramps.  I thought the sound was good, but way to many other sounds of hiss, snap, crackle and pop! I did have good surround sound, but it wasn't very directional, I still had trouble pinpointing.  If you go to youtube there was a guy amazingly pinpointing exactly where people were and what they were doing.  He was using a DSS+ sennheiser HD595.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:08 PM - 10/25/11
Thanks Tuffrabit,
One more quick question, if I hang the original XBOX 360 headset around my neck, then which speaker set will the persons voice be coming through, through my headphones, or from the single speaker xbox 360 headset around my neck?  Thanks a TON man, I appreciate all of your advice.

They chat sound will come through your DSS if you set the 360 to output voice to speakers.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 07:05 AM - 10/26/11
I know this has been discussed earlier in this post but i couldnt find it so ill just try again. Is the sennheiser pc360 with DSS a good option to use?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:25 AM - 10/26/11
Its an option but there are better, as usual.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 07:27 AM - 10/26/11
Is there any noticeable difference between the DSS and the Mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:31 AM - 10/26/11
Is there any noticeable difference between the DSS and the Mixamp?

Yes.

The DSS reproduces a fuller frequency range.  The Mixamp has voice/chat mixing native on the device.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:33 AM - 10/26/11
Example how much the Mixamp sucks is Crysis 2, It can not play the starting video without collapsing on the bass. The DSS masters it fine.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 08:17 AM - 10/26/11
What other part do i have to buy if i want to connect the sennheiser pc360's mic?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:25 AM - 10/26/11
What other part do i have to buy if i want to connect the sennheiser pc360's mic?

The answer to that question is in this thread.  We had a two or three page discussion on it.  Start on page 4.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 09:14 AM - 10/26/11
wasnt really sure of where u refering to since I don't know too much about setting up an audio system more than the basics. But my guess is it wont be more than a usb from the DSS to the xbox,a cable from the DSS to the xbox controller and then use a y adapter to put in both mic and audio input into the DSS? correct me if iam wrong hehe.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:35 AM - 10/26/11
wasnt really sure of where u refering to since I don't know too much about setting up an audio system more than the basics. But my guess is it wont be more than a usb from the DSS to the xbox,a cable from the DSS to the xbox controller and then use a y adapter to put in both mic and audio input into the DSS? correct me if iam wrong hehe.

Nope.  You need a channel mixer of some sort.  Like I said, start on page 4.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 12:10 PM - 10/26/11
I read it now, feel like an idiot for not entirely understanding though. But from What i understand i need my pc360's, DSS and a mixer (Steelseries). Do i need to buy anything besides this or is all parts that is needed included?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:12 PM - 10/26/11
All you need is the headset, DSS, and the Steelseries Spectrum mixer.  Let us know how it sounds.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: DURAUDE on 02:59 PM - 10/26/11
SALUT LES GARS JE VOULAIT SAVOIR SI VOUS AVEZ DEJA TESTES LE PSYCHO5.1? ET UNE AUTRE QUESTION QUELLE EST LE MEILLEURE COMBO AVEC LE MIXAMP ?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:24 PM - 10/26/11
Je ne connais personne ici qui utilise le 5,1 Psycho. En regardant le site je suppose qu'ils sont à peu près aussi bon que le Axepros Tritton.

Le meilleur combo avec le mixamp dépend de votre budget. Audio Technica ATH-AD700 avec un micro pince Zalman sont un choix populaire pour le droit à 100US $.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 04:14 PM - 10/26/11
I read it now, feel like an idiot for not entirely understanding though. But from What i understand i need my pc360's, DSS and a mixer (Steelseries). Do i need to buy anything besides this or is all parts that is needed included?

You need:

Headphones + Turtle Beach Earforce DSS + (Labtec mic modded on your headphones{doesn't need to be fancy-use velcro} or clip-on mic + Audio Mixer) + Don't forget the Headset buddy

or

 If your Heaphones already come with an attached microphone (Sennheiser PC360, Beyerdynamic MMX300), then you don't need the (Labtec mic mod or clip-on mic added) - you stiill need a audio stereo mixer.

Two mixers type choice:
The Steel Series Audio Mixer -  is needed for voice mixing. (however, some reviews complain that it produces an offensive noise - kinda like a fart, jk.)

To bypass the noise, your other option is to move to a stereo channel audio mixer.  People will think your a rock star seeing that on your desk. Best Audio Mixer choices are (Mackie 802-vlz3, Behringer xenyx 802, or 502, or even the new 302, which is small and can be powered by usb, should all work and are all $50 or less)  Please correct me if I'm wrong. You may need some adapters from Radio shack. 

Last Option, bypassing the mixer and mic mod:
 You can use the xbox 360 headset (im thinking prehaps even a throat mic would work, I'm looking at a giotek tx-2 right now) and hang it around your neck, output the voice sound into the speakers in your xbox 360 settings.

If you want a mixer already built in to the decoder box your only option is the Astro Mixamp that has the voice/chat mixer already built-in, but the sound quality doesn't compare to the DSS. IT's not just the freq. range, but the smoothness of the freq. response as well.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: zebus on 10:11 PM - 10/26/11
Ok, so I know I want the PC360, but what I'm trying to figure out is the best way to set it up where i can use the headset for both my PC and 360/xim3 at the same time.

My PC already has a good soundcard, that supports basically everything, is there anyway I could do a setup to go 360 > PC > headset, or would I have to use a mixamp no matter what?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 04:32 AM - 10/27/11
Agreed about the mixamps bad sound, so if you use the dss do you need some kind of amp? Does it connect the same as the mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: creativeboy on 05:05 AM - 10/27/11
well from personal experience i am using the Sennheiser HD598
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 05:20 AM - 10/27/11
Using these
with astro mix amp, but wanna try them with somehting else

(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152420.jpg)
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152546.jpg)
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152459.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: DURAUDE on 06:07 AM - 10/27/11
SALUT MERCI POUR TA REPONSE JE VOULAIS SAVOIR POUR LE  Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO IL LE FAUT EN 250 OHMS OU EN 80 OHMS POUR LE COMBINER AVEC LE MIXAMP SUR XBOX ? ET COMMENT TA FAIT POUR METTRE LE MICRO DESSUS MERCI
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:41 AM - 10/27/11
Your french is great Noobs! Yes I know, long live google :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:42 AM - 10/27/11
Roskal did Tommyboy make those? His handwriting for sure.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 07:52 AM - 10/27/11
nah i did :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:02 AM - 10/27/11
Good paint job!
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Post by: RoskaL on 08:13 AM - 10/27/11
that was the easy part lol  ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 08:20 AM - 10/27/11
If i used a standard piar of headphone in the cheaper range (such as AD700 or KSC75) which had <100omhs what advantage does the DSS provide?

I would prefer to just use spectrum mixer (or something similiar) to get the chat/game mixing and plug directly to headset (or headphone/mic).
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 08:21 AM - 10/27/11
best quality 4 pole jacks i can find, pretty decent really but abit pricey here in the uk
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 08:28 AM - 10/27/11
so wait, the dss doesnt handle chat? which would mean it doesnt mix the chat either?
looks like ill be sticking with the mixamp
im gunna look at getting some info on it and mod it or see if theres something i can do to give it better sound
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 08:30 AM - 10/27/11
As i understand it the DSS does not mix voice/game.  The mixamp does mix but it doesn't provide the sound quality the DSS provides.  Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:34 AM - 10/27/11
No Mix with DSS, crappy sound with Mixamp. Crappy is really a friendly expression. Fiio E9 no Dolby no mix drives over 250 Ohm Headphones with authority, great sound. Your choice
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:35 AM - 10/27/11
The DSS doesn't do anything with chat or voice.  It only does game sound, which it does VERY well.  The pain you have to go through to get chat mixing with the DSS is worth it in the end IMO.

Quote from: gloryandi
If i used a standard piar of headphone in the cheaper range (such as AD700 or KSC75) which had <100omhs what advantage does the DSS provide?

I use the KSC75's on occasion with my DSS.  They sound amazing.  Best thing for under $20 you will ever buy.  The KSC75's are great because they have a big soundstage and therefore great directional accuracy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:37 AM - 10/27/11
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The pain you have to go through to get chat mixing with the DSS is worth it in the end IMO.

I did not find a way without adding plenty of noise to the system so I gave up.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:39 AM - 10/27/11
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The pain you have to go through to get chat mixing with the DSS is worth it in the end IMO.

I did not find a way without adding plenty of noise to the system so I gave up.

It took me a little while of tweaking, but what I've got now is nice and quiet.  The trick ended up being higher quality USB cables, for the XIM and the DSS, and nicer power strip.  I also had to take a chest freezer out of the circuit my XBOX was using.  The only noise I have now from my cheap Behringer mixer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 08:42 AM - 10/27/11
i was thinking about making my own mixamp style mixer but with better sound, onlything is i wouldnt have a clue where to start lol
i wish i had a load of money, id pay a company like bose to build me exactly what i want  haha
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:43 AM - 10/27/11
Oh I had zero noise on my HD598 and the DSS full power. Really zero. But any mixer steelseries or real mixer, whatever I plug I get noise, so I gave up mixing in favor of sound qual. I really cant stand a hiss or noise.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:47 AM - 10/27/11
i was thinking about making my own mixamp style mixer but with better sound, onlything is i wouldnt have a clue where to start lol
i wish i had a load of money, id pay a company like bose to build me exactly what i want  haha

I'd start with the cmoy schematic.  It shouldn't too difficult to add second line level channel with a mixing pot.  There is probably already a schematic out there on a forum somewheres you can mooch to do this very thing.

... ... thinking ... ... rabit brain churning ... ...

I may try this myself.  If I come up with something usable I may sell them.  With all of the traffic XIM3.com is getting I could stand to make some real $$$.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 08:52 AM - 10/27/11
yeh my mate knows all this kind of stuff so would need to get his help but you should do it, in a nice case you could make a fair bit i think aslong as they sound good :)
id buy one
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:00 AM - 10/27/11
its not the chat sound that i have the problem with, i also use a xim 2
but i like being able to control the level of it through the mixer, its just so easy if im playing with mates to turn them up and game down
thats why i really like the idea of the mixamp

rabit what about the dolby side of things?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:08 AM - 10/27/11
rabit what about the dolby side of things?

You would need a decoder.  DSS.  What I'm talking about building is essentially a CMOY with a mixing pot before the amplifier circuit and an extra line level input.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 09:19 AM - 10/27/11
NOOB, when you say "i mixed my chat over dashboard" are you just saying that you change the xbox setting to have chat go through the speaker?  Or did you also add mixing when the voice channel is combined with the game channel?  Is that even possible?  I am confused...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:23 AM - 10/27/11
ahh i get you, would adding a fiio help? which one would you recommend for headphones for my phone? i want to get one to use on both :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:29 AM - 10/27/11
Would you buy one if it cost around $100US?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 09:47 AM - 10/27/11
Thanks for clarifying, NOOB!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 12:21 PM - 10/27/11
Would you buy one if it cost around $100US?

Depending on where you were trying to go with it, it might be easier to just sell a PDF with a schematic and a parts list for DIYers to make.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 01:26 PM - 10/27/11
Has anybody here ever tried out a 5.1 Psyko Krypton or Carbon Headset?  Just kinda of ran into them online.
psykoaudio.com. 

The technology for why it's really 5.1 does look amazing.  But I trust people at XIM3.com for the straight-shot truth.

It was kinda funny, they had some kid in the video, wear a beanie over his head and ear and then wore the headset.  Won't that block alot of the sound.  His ears must get very hot while playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csy5OTMioFc
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 01:30 PM - 10/27/11
They actually look really slick lol
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Post by: Pelican on 04:12 PM - 10/27/11
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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:42 PM - 10/27/11
Has anybody here ever tried out a 5.1 Psyko Krypton or Carbon Headset?  Just kinda of ran into them online.
psykoaudio.com. 

The technology for why it's really 5.1 does look amazing.  But I trust people at XIM3.com for the straight-shot truth.

It was kinda funny, they had some kid in the video, wear a beanie over his head and ear and then wore the headset.  Won't that block alot of the sound.  His ears must get very hot while playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csy5OTMioFc

Reviews were lackluster for the original launch version. They've allegedly improved with the newer ones but I'm not going to put out that kind of money with my bad experience with other true 5.1 headsets.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 11:21 PM - 10/27/11
Reviews aren't so good for it. So it still holds true that no gaming "5.1" headset can beat out a decent set of Studio Headphones with a dolby headphone decoder.

Also, does anyone know of an A/V receiver that would be a better alternative to the DSS?  Prefarably, under $1,000...looking to upgrade my theater room at some point and just curious. 

I've been digging deep, the only negative thing I read on some audiophile website is they were complaining that the DSS has a low S/N ratio and produces hiss.  Personally, I know they don't know what they're talking about.  They also mentioned that the sound from the DSS wasn't as good as the Astro mixamp, and when the volume is turned to 60% or more it produces hiss. Too Funny.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chubby Skunk on 11:41 PM - 10/27/11
Turtle Beach X12 + DSS 7.1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 01:49 PM - 10/28/11
So what I gather from 20 pages of reading is that the AD700+DSS is a great way to go. Chat/Gamesound mixing gets taken care of over the dashboard (Possible to add a box with a line in, line out, and a pot in the middle to control game sound? Crank it in-game and pot it down?)

This seems all great, but I only really have one question: anyone have a good enough idea to write up a schematic on how to pull this (http://www.head-fi.org/t/484176/dark-knight-ad700-gaming-mod-lots-of-pics) project off? Seems like he's rewiring the whole thing, and I'm not sure I'd want to tackle the project without a better idea of how to complete it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 02:28 PM - 10/28/11
If you have any soldering experience is not too hard

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/ae393fb4-105f-26eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 02:55 PM - 10/28/11
I have the soldering experience. Is it pretty basic once you dive in? Is it the same idea as the velcro version, just mounted inside the cup? It kinda looked like there was some wiring that happened between the mic female jack and the drivers.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 02:59 PM - 10/28/11
I have the soldering experience. Is it pretty basic once you dive in? Is it the same idea as the velcro version, just mounted inside the cup? It kinda looked like there was some wiring that happened between the mic female jack and the drivers.

If you want to do it as basic as possible, just take the one side apart and mount the mic in there, then run the wire through where the regular wire is and sleeve it all together.

Even easier is how n00b did one of his where the mic was mounted on the cable, you don't have to disassemble the headphone at all.

I did mine with detachable wires and mic because I use them to listen to music at work or watch Netflix sometimes. So i have a a cable with the 4 pole connector for the mixamp and I have a separate one with the normal stereo jack. I was planning on taking pics and making a guide but I don't have a camera at the moment and my cell phone is so crappy as you can see above that it would have been almost pointless.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 03:04 PM - 10/28/11
Just looked at it again. 4-pole connector? I'm assuming that's to carry 4 different signals or whatever you want to call it.

I see a red/blue to each driver, so that's 2 there, and then two poles used for the mic, completing the 4?

Then it's run down the cable that way without any ishy look to it, and then the Y splitter at the other end sends one side to the DSS and the other into the controller? Am I grasping this correctly?

And I prefer the Mic to be on the right side, so I would have to figure out how to run 2 lines through those head wire-spring things if I wanted that, right? Feasible, or not enough room to get the right wiring over there?

And too, could you put a pots box between either your DSS and the 700's to be able to control volume on the fly w/o menu action, or do you think that would add noise?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 03:11 PM - 10/28/11
The speakers wired in parallel then is the next assumption?

BTW what boom mic is it I keep seeing? Don't need a link, just a name if you have it

And where would you send the ground to? To the mic port on the controller I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 03:13 PM - 10/28/11
Wrong if your after the astro/ iPhone and most phone connection, Mic  and ground are switched , if u want any help.on what cables etc to use and how to wire it I'm able to help
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:28 PM - 10/28/11
Here's the iphone/mixamp pinout http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/iphone_headphone_pinout.shtml
Common ground so it just goes to the device (mixamp, iphone, etc)

I'm using this microphone: http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Flexible-Microphone-Laptop-Skype/dp/B00284VD02/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319837241&sr=8-3

I just ripped it apart and put a rean connector on the end and stuffed it inside the shell of some mogami cable to match my main cable

I plan on painting it eventually (I have everything i need except some wet/dry sand paper) and completing the rewire on the inside, but i'm ultra lazy and want another headphone to use while this one is being done.

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And I prefer the Mic to be on the right side, so I would have to figure out how to run 2 lines through those head wire-spring things if I wanted that, right? Feasible, or not enough room to get the right wiring over there?

You'll have to completely disassemble the whole thing for that. You'll also need some pretty thin wire as there's not a lot of room inside the tubes, maybe something like this to make it easy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-feet-stranded-30-AWG-Silver-Teflon-Wire-Black-White-/230691117605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b6431a25#ht_500wt_1288
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Sick_Tight on 12:00 AM - 11/01/11
Has anyone tried these out ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826626015 )compared to ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106522 ) ?
I need a headphone mixer and mic set up and I am looking to invest to get the best. .
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:11 AM - 11/01/11
The first I would not dare to try, they are closed and you may shout with your friends. If you do that anyways  then its OK. The HD598 are the choice in the price region. Very comfortable good sound, great combo with a DSS. If you say invest in the best then its these you want to have. Yes a steep price but you asked for the best.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-650-Lightweight-Audiophile/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320127840&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xabierr on 02:38 PM - 11/01/11
Anyone know if the sennheiser x320 , use the same drivers used by pc360 or hd550/590 ? i cant find any review.

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_xbox_504199

If they use the same drivers as pc360 , they might be the way to go with dss since they have separate live chat volume control as turtle beach headsets....but being sennheiser =)

Sorry for my english :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:59 PM - 11/01/11
That x320 set looks great.  I have no idea though about its quality.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 03:10 PM - 11/01/11
As you say if it's up to senns usual quality it'll be good
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 03:43 PM - 11/01/11
This one looks very interesting.

Warhead™ 7.1 Dolby Wireless Surround Headset for Xbox 360
The TRITTON Warhead 7.1 Dolby Wireless Surround Headset is expected to be the world's first truly wireless Dolby 7.1 surround sound headset for Xbox 360, with no wire from the headset to the Xbox 360 controller.

http://www.trittontechnologies.com/prod/warhead.asp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:45 PM - 11/01/11
Not really.  Its the same multi-driver gimmick that they've made 100% wireless.  Waste of money.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 04:35 PM - 11/01/11
No wires = lag is the way I see it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 05:45 PM - 11/01/11
I was thinking about upgrading my x41 to xp500 (delta). After reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore. Would you say there is better options out there? I'm gonna play MW3 and xp500 seems to have some sort of option to increase the sounds you want to increase and decrease others.

Anyone know what the best option for me is?

Thanks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:56 AM - 11/02/11
I was thinking about upgrading my x41 to xp500 (delta). After reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore. Would you say there is better options out there? I'm gonna play MW3 and xp500 seems to have some sort of option to increase the sounds you want to increase and decrease others.

Anyone know what the best option for me is?

Thanks

WOW i just felt off my chair

this headset costs 300€!!!!!

man zwifti, by all means, do not get this headset
for the same money you can get a professional audio equipment that easily wins over the xp500
those sound reducting options are just gimmicks, not worth the money and usually very ineffective

for your price, zalman clipmic + hd598 + mixamp (best voice chat combination)
or zalman clipmic + akg701 / akg 702 + dss (best audio combination)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 06:52 AM - 11/02/11
Not really.  Its the same multi-driver gimmick that they've made 100% wireless.  Waste of money.

Well, im looking for a good headset that is completly wireless, meaning no wire to xbox controller. It needs ofc to be without lag and the sound have to be good, not necessery ultra ultra great.

I thought that Tritton Warhead™ 7.1 Dolby Wireless Surround Headset were looking interesting, but might not be as good as claimed. Any other suggestion if so?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:17 AM - 11/02/11
If 100% wireless is your goal I would go with the DSS, a nice set of cans, and then go find that wireless headset mod... I think noobstradaumas did it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 08:59 AM - 11/02/11
I was thinking about upgrading my x41 to xp500 (delta). After reading this thread I'm not so sure anymore. Would you say there is better options out there? I'm gonna play MW3 and xp500 seems to have some sort of option to increase the sounds you want to increase and decrease others.

Anyone know what the best option for me is?

Thanks

WOW i just felt off my chair

this headset costs 300€!!!!!

man zwifti, by all means, do not get this headset
for the same money you can get a professional audio equipment that easily wins over the xp500
those sound reducting options are just gimmicks, not worth the money and usually very ineffective

for your price, zalman clipmic + hd598 + mixamp (best voice chat combination)
or zalman clipmic + akg701 / akg 702 + dss (best audio combination)

Just bought dss+hd598 =) I found a used and very cheap akg701 so I might buy that aswell. Just need a clipmic now and find some modding guides =)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:36 AM - 11/02/11
You're gonna hug yourself every time you put those on your head.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 11:28 AM - 11/02/11
I just received my JVC HARX700's in the mail.  I'm still waiting on the KOSS KSC75's and my Earforce DSS to get here tomorrow.  Can't wait to try them out tomorrow with the DSS on Blackops.  I will let everyone know how  they are compared to the X41's that I had sold.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:01 PM - 11/02/11
I just received my JVC HARX700's in the mail.  I'm still waiting on the KOSS KSC75's and my Earforce DSS to get here tomorrow.  Can't wait to try them out tomorrow with the DSS on Blackops.  I will let everyone know how  they are compared to the X41's that I had sold.

While you are waiting you should stuff the earpads of the JVC's with some foam and then go listen to some music.  Preferably from a loss-less source.  You will poopie in your pants.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 12:09 PM - 11/02/11
Anyone have a line on a cheap DSS? Used no problem. I'm not trying to make a want to buy thread, but I figure some of the audiophiles here might peruse other forums and have seen something of interest ;)

And rabbit - why foam? What's it do?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:12 PM - 11/02/11
And rabbit - why foam? What's it do?

On the JVC's the stock ear pads are not very rigid or plushy.  If you stuff the pads with some foam it will make the drivers sit away from your ears like they should.  That gives you a bigger soundstage.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:11 PM - 11/02/11
What exact foam do you use and where can I buy some...Homedepot, radioshack, etc.?

Does just the foam added to the earcup make a huge difference?  I did read in the second link posted below that a person literally replaced the ear pads on his JVC harx 700's with Audio Technica AD900 pads.  Although I wonder if he meant A900 as these were the only pads I could find in exsistence that audio technica makes and they sell for $20 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Pad-Ath-a700-a900-Headphones/dp/B005BV9ZYA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1320264426&sr=8-4

Here is the most extensive tutorial I could find on modding the JVC HARX 700/900's:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/381303/jvc-ha-rx900-modifications-a-picture-tutorial-56k-forget-about-it

How extensively have you modded your JVC's Tuffrabit?  thx.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:31 PM - 11/02/11
I've only done the foam ear cup mod.  It didn't make a huge difference, but definitely noticeable.  Makes the bass less boomy and more defined.  Balances the mids and highs better as well.

The foam I used I scavenged from some Amazon.com packaging I had laying around.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:34 PM - 11/02/11
rabit needs to know, largest ears in the forum ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 02:38 PM - 11/02/11
If 100% wireless is your goal I would go with the DSS, a nice set of cans, and then go find that wireless headset mod... I think noobstradaumas did it.

Thanks for the advice. Its not in my taste tho. I prefer a headset which is plug&play in a finished solution.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:43 PM - 11/02/11
Its your money big fella.  Let us know what you think.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:28 PM - 11/02/11
Okay, I don't know, but I modded my JVC-HARX 700.  Actually, I can't even call it a mod.  I stuffed 2 kleenex tissues into each ear cup.  So it's a JVC HARX 700 + 4 Kleenex tissues.  What I noticed is the resonance of the bass cleaned up, if it even needed to be cleaned.  I acutally prefer the non-kleenex version, but maybe I should try it with foam, as the tissue may be too compactful, whereas the foam would create the space needed betwwen the ear and driver, but still give it a little bounce.  Maybe that resonance will become annoying over time, so The foam mod might be the way for sure to go.

My test music  was "Protectors of the Earth", by  Two Steps from Hell  - Greatess song of all time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9DO1U1U5Rc

If I get a song from Itunes is it already in a lossless format.  Most of my songs are above 128 kibbles n bits.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:24 PM - 11/02/11
I'm giving my friend Turtle Beach HPX and he's going to use it with dss + steelseries mixer. It has two 3.5mm jacks one for mic, one for sound.

I'm sending him a newegg cart with everything he needs to get in it. So, my question to anyone who uses this combo, if this is everything he needs:


I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter but he plays with a standard wireless controller. I tried to convert him to XIM3 but he has failed to see the light :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 06:26 PM - 11/02/11
If he can get a sound blaster extigy for cheap, it's great with the hpa2.  I got mine for $35 luckily and the hpa2 for $40 via ebay =)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:34 PM - 11/02/11
If he can get a sound blaster extigy for cheap, it's great with the hpa2.  I got mine for $35 luckily and the hpa2 for $40 via ebay =)

I lookd into it before never found a good cheap one. also this is the unamped hpx so it wouldnt sound as good as the hpa2 probs.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:02 PM - 11/02/11
I'm giving my friend Turtle Beach HPX and he's going to use it with dss + steelseries mixer. It has two 3.5mm jacks one for mic, one for sound.

I'm sending him a newegg cart with everything he needs to get in it. So, my question to anyone who uses this combo, if this is everything he needs:

  • DSS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874502008)
  • Mixer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874634003)
  • Toslink Cable (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120019)

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter but he plays with a standard wireless controller. I tried to convert him to XIM3 but he has failed to see the light :P


I'm just going to send him the cart with those 3 things and if he ends up needing anything else we'll figure out
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 08:52 PM - 11/02/11
ahhhh, yeah, the amp is needed, forgot about that.  That's still a descent sound whore kit lol >=D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Jacob P41N on 11:08 PM - 11/02/11
I've found different headset work better with different games... The astro a40s are tuned more to halo reach, when a grenade lands near you, it is easier to tell it's direction then when i'm wearing senn's....
Although, senn's have a larger soundstage and when playing cod i can shoot people not using ninja through walls just by judging through sound....
With that said, once you are familiar with a headset it gets easier to work with 3d sound, switch your headset and your whole 3d environment will change....

But then you got the elitist 'MY WAY IS THE RIGHT WAY AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG' members on this site who will telll you otherwise.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 02:37 AM - 11/03/11
I've found different headset work better with different games... The astro a40s are tuned more to halo reach, when a grenade lands near you, it is easier to tell it's direction then when i'm wearing senn's....
Although, senn's have a larger soundstage and when playing cod i can shoot people not using ninja through walls just by judging through sound....
With that said, once you are familiar with a headset it gets easier to work with 3d sound, switch your headset and your whole 3d environment will change....

But then you got the elitist 'MY WAY IS THE RIGHT WAY AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG' members on this site who will telll you otherwise.

Yeah I can basically hear just about anything with my turtoise beach x41. But bought hd598+dss anyways! Need to see if it "blows" my mind like the others. I'm kinda a  hardcore compedative gamer so I really dont think so.. But hey, give it a shot. I don't think it will be worse, but maybe on the same line or a little bit better. However, I dont think it will totally blow my mind, open up a new world of woopage etc
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:14 AM - 11/03/11
Okay, I don't know, but I modded my JVC-HARX 700.  Actually, I can't even call it a mod.  I stuffed 2 kleenex tissues into each ear cup.  So it's a JVC HARX 700 + 4 Kleenex tissues.  What I noticed is the resonance of the bass cleaned up, if it even needed to be cleaned.  I acutally prefer the non-kleenex version, but maybe I should try it with foam, as the tissue may be too compactful, whereas the foam would create the space needed betwwen the ear and driver, but still give it a little bounce.  Maybe that resonance will become annoying over time, so The foam mod might be the way for sure to go.

My test music  was "Protectors of the Earth", by  Two Steps from Hell  - Greatess song of all time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9DO1U1U5Rc

If I get a song from Itunes is it already in a lossless format.  Most of my songs are above 128 kibbles n bits.

Yeah dude... get those drives as far from your ears as you can.  It will be more comfortable on your head in the long run anyways.

I have no idea about iTunes.  I always buy CD's and rip them to FLAC myself.  I think you might be able to download the Apple Lossless format via iTunes, I just have don't know how to do that.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 12:41 PM - 11/03/11
Just bought my Sennheiser pc360 along with my astro mixamp that's coming tomorrow. Hopefully i'll be blown away by the sound since I will be comparing it to my madcatz xbox headset hehe.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 01:49 PM - 11/03/11
Just bought my Sennheiser pc360 along with my astro mixamp that's coming tomorrow. Hopefully i'll be blown away by the sound since I will be comparing it to my madcatz xbox headset hehe.

Please give us your feedback as how you like them, especially compared to your Tritton's (madcatz)!  PC360 should be pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Grin on 10:19 PM - 11/03/11
...i'm slightly sadfacing right now since no one is talking about my Dolby wireless Turtle Beaches... :( I guess I'll go off and play with a grenade in a corner, with no lights on...blind folded, on fire.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:14 AM - 11/04/11
Sorry buddy.  You won't find much love for Turtle Beach, Tritton, or Astro in here.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GODJOEY on 07:41 AM - 11/04/11
Really used to only like my tritton ax pros but lately I been using my ad700's more and more comparing the dss vs the aimonhp they perform the same although a few different features.  Aimonhp has treble tuning and a mic jack. Dss has the dolby chip in it. I end up disabling the surround anyway so ambient noise don't block out or over shadow sound cues. On the dss I set it to tv guess it's just preference if you have headphones that are bass dominant. Did a video on it but I may have ebay my trittons the ad700's with the mod just has such an large  soundstage. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCIXG1hZHI
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 12:08 PM - 11/04/11
Just played mw2 and bf3 with my new pc360 and the astro mixamp and what can I say....WOW
I'am lovin' every minute of it, takes some time getting used to but it definetly allows u to have a whole other gaming experience. Can't stop playing now lol so I'll get right back at it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:20 PM - 11/04/11
Really used to only like my tritton ax pros but lately I been using my ad700's more and more comparing the dss vs the aimonhp they perform the same although a few different features.  Aimonhp has treble tuning and a mic jack. Dss has the dolby chip in it. I end up disabling the surround anyway so ambient noise don't block out or over shadow sound cues. On the dss I set it to tv guess it's just preference if you have headphones that are bass dominant. Did a video on it but I may have ebay my trittons the ad700's with the mod just has such an large  soundstage. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCIXG1hZHI

Where did you buy the aimonhp from?  Looks like a perfect brother to the DSS.  Pair them together and you get Dolby decoding and mixamp style voice/chat/game sound mixing + EQ.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 01:52 PM - 11/04/11
...i'm slightly sadfacing right now since no one is talking about my Dolby wireless Turtle Beaches... :( I guess I'll go off and play with a grenade in a corner, with no lights on...blind folded, on fire.

Cheer up.  I use to have the x41's.  Honestly, it wasn't like a OMG difference when switching to my new setup.  Is the sound better on my JVC har-x700? Sure. Has it made me a better player? no.  Can I hear a guy tying his shoe on the opposite end of the map? No.  Was it worth the hassel of selling my X41's on ebay, and ordering the JVC's and Earforce DSS? Probably not.

  I will say I still think the X41's are good headphones...they are lighter with batteries in them than my JVC's. I think they sound great at a loud volume.  The JVC's do sound better though, but it is not like a OMG difference.  All I can say is alot of the improvements were from switching from wireless to wired. Also, I would get bad earcramps from the earcups on the Turtle beach's.   

I guess in the end, I probably should of gone with say a PC360 headset and an Astro mixamp.  Maybe then it would of been a much bigger difference.  With that said, does anyone notice a very quiet hum with the earforce dss?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 06:45 PM - 11/04/11
quick question:  Will i need some adapter to hook up the mic of the PC360's if I only buy the PC360 + DSS? (this is for use with XBOX360)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 08:10 PM - 11/04/11
The pc360/astro mixamp is an awesome combo, due to the fact that I barely know anything about modding and hooking up the DSS for that matter which I'am kinda ashamed of hehe. But it was easy to hook up and the sound is just freakin' amazing
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Grin on 08:54 PM - 11/04/11
Well thanks for the encouragement to not fully hate my headphones, I guess they do get the job done :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 09:26 PM - 11/04/11
Your welcome.


I just test drove my KOSS KSC75 headphones.  They cost me ~$14.00 shipped.  All I can say is....WOW!  These are awesome little headphones.  I think I will be using these over my JVC's.  The JVC's have great sound, but way but too big and heavy for my taste. For the KOSS, the only thing that takes getting use to is the clamp behind your ears.  It is not all that bad.  You don't get hot in them, and the sound is incredible.  Now the surround sound in these is really good.  I just bought an extension cable at Wally World for them.  These are nice.  Now I need to add a throat mic or MS headset so I can get voice chat.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:51 PM - 11/04/11
Now a Fiio E7 is just again a sound quality jump to the DSS having the same price tag. Yes its only Stereo but some say its better undistorted sound and you hear the same positioning if you give Stereo a chance over some weeks. Dragging audio through a Dolby chip quite rapes it.
It’s a pocket amp, it has a battery, mem for volume, two jacks for the headphones. You dont get dolby but hell more for your money. I am quite happy with it.

(http://pinesstore.com/userfiles/productimages/product_106.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:34 AM - 11/05/11
And if you add it to your dss or mixamp setup it takes away the buzz/static :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 06:48 AM - 11/05/11
What buzz static?!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: FreshNsoClean on 07:18 AM - 11/05/11
I love my Astro A40's.  If there's something that's really better than that.  I'd like to know.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:28 AM - 11/05/11
id rather spend another 70-80€ for an amp that provides dolby in the same quality as the fiio does than picking a stereo solution

see ive played years of pro/competitive gaming with stereo, i know how well you can determin peoples position with it, BUT it has its limit
in my former clan we had an analysation of stereo positioning, there are like dead angles from which you barely hear something
also the volume proportions of the angles are not 1:1, a 25m shot from behind doesnt sound like a 25m shot from 45°
this leads you into a false distance estimation when theres a sound from an area you cannot see on the screen
if you are just a fun gamer, stereo might and can work for you, but if you claim to become the best, stereo just wont do it for you, its like an handicap
(doesnt say i still try to, but why using the second best option when theres a better one)
this being said, a dolby solution will always be better if you are seeking audio advantage
also its easier for people in general to hear dolby signal than stereo, which needs a bit of a training to distinguish peoples position
(like i said, your brain must learn the angle stuff, which isnt like in the real world but different thus it takes a few weeks)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:40 AM - 11/05/11
I love my Astro A40's.  If there's something that's really better than that.  I'd like to know.

Read the thread almost every non gaming solution is better.

Odin quality of dolby raped sound is my problem, positioning I will see. Depends much on the game.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:45 AM - 11/05/11
be adviced roads, it look me about a year until i was a beast in stereo ;)
you figure out the important parts after about a few days/weeks, but the real experience you need to have takes a lot of time
its good to only play one map for a certain time, cause there are always the same situations on them with always the same distances
good for memorization so to say, then play a different one and learn the remaining situations
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: FreshNsoClean on 07:46 AM - 11/05/11
I love my Astro A40's.  If there's something that's really better than that.  I'd like to know.

Read the thread almost every non gaming solution is better.

Odin quality of dolby raped sound is my problem, positioning I will see. Depends much on the game.

I skimmed through the thread but 25 pages is little too much.

All I care about is CoD and the accurate direction of sounds and bullet travel
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:50 AM - 11/05/11
I love my Astro A40's.  If there's something that's really better than that.  I'd like to know.

Read the thread almost every non gaming solution is better.

Odin quality of dolby raped sound is my problem, positioning I will see. Depends much on the game.

I skimmed through the thread but 25 pages is little too much.

All I care about is CoD and the accurate direction of sounds and bullet travel

There are better options sure, but you've already invested $100+ in that headset so I would just use it until it breaks unless you think you can sell it and make a decent percent of the investment back.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: FreshNsoClean on 07:52 AM - 11/05/11
I don't care much about the money unless it's a insane amount.  If there is something noticeably better.  I will buy it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:01 AM - 11/05/11
I don't care much about the money unless it's a insane amount.  If there is something noticeably better.  I will buy it.

Just get one of the headsets recommended from this thread on amazon, if you don't like it they'll take it back no questions asked.

Seems like these are the most recommended headsets sorted sort of by price

JVC Harx 700/900 - Audiotechnica AD700 - Beyerdynamic DT770 - Sennhesier HD 555/598 - AKG K701/K702 - Beyerdynamic DT880 - Ultrasone Pro 900 (I added these because I demand someone try them :P)

I just bought the JVC Harx700 for my friend for his birthday since the Turtle Beach HPX headset I was going to give him was fubar. I'm looking forward to see how they sound compared to AD700s
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:18 AM - 11/05/11
I don't care much about the money unless it's a insane amount.  If there is something noticeably better.  I will buy it.

Just get one of the headsets recommended from this thread on amazon, if you don't like it they'll take it back no questions asked.

Seems like these are the most recommended headsets sorted sort of by price

JVC Harx 700/900 - Audiotechnica AD700 - Beyerdynamic DT770 - Sennhesier HD 555/598 - AKG K701/K702 - Beyerdynamic DT880 - Ultrasone Pro 900 (I added these because I demand someone try them :P)

I just bought the JVC Harx700 for my friend for his birthday since the Turtle Beach HPX headset I was going to give him was fubar. I'm looking forward to see how they sound compared to AD700s

Do let us know how the JVC's sound compared to the AD700's.  The AD700's were another option I was looking at.  I have the JVC's Harx 700 and KOSS KSC 75, which need to be added to that list above.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:54 PM - 11/05/11
The more I use the Koss KSC75's the more I favor them over the JVC's for gaming.  The JVC's stomp with music, but I think the Koss set is better paired with the DSS.

Going back to the custom mixer/amp thing.  I think a CMOY with this circuit in front would work: http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/mixer1.asp

Biggest hurdle would be the enclosure.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 01:05 PM - 11/05/11
The more I use the Koss KSC75's the more I favor them over the JVC's for gaming.  The JVC's stomp with music, but I think the Koss set is better paired with the DSS.

Going back to the custom mixer/amp thing.  I think a CMOY with this circuit in front would work: http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/mixer1.asp

Biggest hurdle would be the enclosure.

These are popular with audio people i think http://www.hammondmfg.com/
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:57 PM - 11/05/11
I used the JVC HARX700 that I bought for my friend for about 30min tonight. Great bang for the buck, they don't sound bad at all. Soundstage is adequate and positioning is good with Dolby Headphone. For under $50 they are a great buy and I'd recommend them to anyone that doesn't want to put out a lot of money.

The only negative thing I would say about them is that I found the earpads to be a little stiff but I'm pretty sure a remedy to that has already been mentioned in this thread.

I do prefer the AD700s, but they are $60 more, so take that for what it is.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:53 AM - 11/06/11
I like this schematic better: http://www.all-electric.com/schematic/simp_mix.htm

Option four way down at the bottom of the page.  Stereo inputs, with impedance buffers, and what looks like an integrated amp.  I may not even need to fool around with the CMOY circuit.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 01:09 AM - 11/06/11
I figured I'd report back in.  I finally opted for the PC360s and the Astro wireless 5.8 mixamp.  Prior to this config I was truly happy with my trittons (aside from comfort), but now directly comparing them to my new setup @#$%!  When I first put them on and I navigated through the Xbox menus, I thought my external speakers were still on.  Great soundstage!  BF3 sounds AWESOME now. 

Needless to say I was blown away by the new setup.  I only have two minor complaints.

1)  I'm not entirely sure I can clearly differentiate between front and rear directional queues, at least without visual aid.  That somewhat concerns me as this is one of the things I was trying to resolve.

2)  I really don't like the balancing act that the mixamp does with game and chat sounds.  Turning up chat truly nerfs the gamesound.  Can I do anything to offset this?  Perhaps a Fiio amp? 


Also, I talked a friend into replacing his Tritton AX720s.  I went with him today and he bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 380 Pros.  I was somewhat blown away by them.  They were a lot louder than the pc360s, though I know it's not about loudness.  Overall I was very impressed.  I just prefer my all-in-one solution of the pc360s and their open design so I'll stick with them.  Maybe in the future I'll upgrade to some HD598's or so.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:28 AM - 11/06/11
Buy the DSS at Amazon and try them side by side. Make a labeled returnbox ready for the mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:07 AM - 11/06/11
Has anyone tried the new Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D? Could be able to Mix and produce good surround sound. Noobs found it.

(http://static2.technic3d.com/news/images/News_Bilder_Creative/Recon3D/Sound_Blaster_Recon3D_4.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 07:47 AM - 11/06/11
First I've heard of it but my sound blaster extigy I'm using right now is awesome and that thing is ooooold lol.   Looks smexy though =D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 02:21 PM - 11/06/11
Buy the DSS at Amazon and try them side by side. Make a labeled returnbox ready for the mixamp.

Negative.  Need the chat mix and am not getting yet another device to attempt to handle that.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 02:29 PM - 11/06/11
The creative shipped with a cable for the xbox controller , thats a mix, ehh? Fatal the mixamp sound is really  really bad.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 02:53 PM - 11/06/11
I'm still trying to figure out that part.  Usually the headset mic cord goes to controller.  So how does it have a Mic input O_o;
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 04:45 PM - 11/06/11
http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Recon3D-External-Enhancer/dp/B005FKT70O

Is it good?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 05:26 PM - 11/06/11
Just ordered a pair of pc360's and the dss.  Hopefully i'll get them before mw3.  I'll report back with results.  Btw amazon just started selling the pc360's for $170...they were about $220 before the drop.  Razor dog has them for $190
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 05:28 PM - 11/06/11
thanks for the img rada!  So it comes with it's own adapter to let you use it that way.  Very nice.  =)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:07 PM - 11/06/11
roads is right you guys.

Just plain regular stereo sounds better than the DSS.  I think you get better positional sound from the DSS, but you can't beat analog stereo through a quality amp for sound quality.

I wish there was a vendor who would sell just the Dolby decoder IC.  That way I could put it in the heart of a CMOY circuit or something similar.  THAT would be the ultimate.

I owe you two bottles of whisky now roads.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 09:50 PM - 11/06/11
So sound quality-wise turning off surround(dolby) on the dss makes it sound better? 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:18 PM - 11/06/11
I am stopping my Stereo positioning test. I played two weeks with stereo only and I cant hear @#$%. In Blops because of map knowledge I did point out the guys but mainly because there was not much option. Stereo you hear left and right and that’s about it. Every sound is centered in your head. In MW3 I was taken from behind every third death because I dont know the maps yet, there is nothing to calculate.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:19 PM - 11/06/11
I'm still trying to figure out that part.  Usually the headset mic cord goes to controller.  So how does it have a Mic input O_o;

Could be like the Mixamp or Iphone, 4 pin 3.5 jack. We will know tomorrow as Noobs and I ordered it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 10:28 PM - 11/06/11
Nice!!!  Let us know, I might sell my dss then to save up for it.  I <3 my sound blaster extigy & HPA2 set-up.  True 5.1 =D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:36 PM - 11/06/11
If this works it will be an awesome device and with a second Amp like the E7 or E9 you can even drive nice 250 to 300 Ohm headsets.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: soler37 on 12:35 AM - 11/07/11
how much does a headset help in terms of gameplay, im using 2.1 logitech speaker system which i have no complaints, i like it but i see many people using headsets, ive tried using earphones which i bought for like 15$ by AKG, but the game sounds ok, not better i think ill need alot of convincing to buy a headset, also good headsets are expensive so u need to be prepared to spend alot of cash on them, 100+$?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 01:34 AM - 11/07/11
how much does a headset help in terms of gameplay, im using 2.1 logitech speaker system which i have no complaints, i like it but i see many people using headsets, ive tried using earphones which i bought for like 15$ by AKG, but the game sounds ok, not better i think ill need alot of convincing to buy a headset, also good headsets are expensive so u need to be prepared to spend alot of cash on them, 100+$?

I can only say say from my own personal experience, I had a crappy madcatz xbox headset for the last year maybe and recetly switched to a Sennheiser PC360 along with a astro mixamp and the sound quality is just mind blowing. I thought the madcatz headset was enough, I could position people and hear footsteps etc but with the pc360/mixamp combo I can hear them from so far away I feel like I have a greater advantage than I had before. It also enhances your gaming experience which in most ways improves your gaming overall. You do have to spend a bit more on getting a decent pair of headphones and an amp but by reading this topic from page 1 you will basically know what fits you and how much you are prepared to spend, if you do have some more questions you got a bunch of experts(I see them as experts :P) following this topic that can help you out without a doubt, they sure helped me a lot hehe.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Venomqld on 12:45 PM - 11/07/11
Turtle Beach Ear force Delta MW3 edition FTW!! got them today and they are absolutely awsome  ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:02 PM - 11/07/11
Lol what am i writing for at all.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:10 PM - 11/07/11
roads... you're my favorite non-American.  Go buy yourself something nice, from me.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:18 PM - 11/07/11
:) ill get my shopping list
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 01:40 PM - 11/07/11
omg.. this sounds like a tin  ::)

are you talking about the SB Recon 3d????

specs look promising, and the adjustable EQ is a nice touch

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:41 PM - 11/07/11
I think he was referring to the TB marketing plug.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 01:50 PM - 11/07/11
ok good, lol.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 02:50 PM - 11/07/11
I found this regarding the Recon3D on the AVS forum thread that I used heavily in my decision to purchase a new headset.  May be helpful.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21063219#post21063219 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21063219#post21063219)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:15 PM - 11/07/11
That looks awesome!!!  I'm excited for you to get yours so you can give us your take on it =D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: xavier_s37 on 09:00 PM - 11/07/11
the recon3d sounds like my next purchase.......
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:03 PM - 11/07/11
Yeah its looking good to me too, might have to put it on my christmas list
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:50 PM - 11/08/11
so we have "tomorrow", how was it ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 12:53 PM - 11/08/11
they have a separate impression thread for the recon3d.  Looks like roads is still testing it out and Rada has yet to receive his.  =)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:56 PM - 11/08/11
why would we need a second topic for this, it really belongs into this one :S :(
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 12:58 PM - 11/08/11
I'd say so people don't have to search through all the pages lol.  It would have been better if the topic creator could update impressions as time goes in the thread.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:11 PM - 11/08/11
I think we should create a locked, stickied thread with easy to read, complete information on each setup.  One post for mixamp + configuration options, one post for DSS + configuration options, and one post for this recon device.  Maybe another post with the most commonly used cans, mics, and headsets with ratings.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:14 PM - 11/08/11
tritton, razer, turtle beach and friends will go nuts when they read our oppinion on their products, as well as their fanboys :S
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:15 PM - 11/08/11
do we care?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: murdo on 07:26 AM - 11/09/11
hi all.

Can anyone commet on the tritton ax720's and tritton ax pro's. Undecided.

They are gonna be used solely for the XBOX and nothing else, which is leaning me toward the 720's.

Am i gonna see a big difference in the surround on the PRO's.

Thanks a mil.

p.s - budget is around 120 euro. ;)



Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:54 AM - 11/09/11
i dont think a lot of people in here are willing to talk about them since they are a decent ripoff
the money you pay is in no relation to the quality you get

if you can, you should search for alternatives, those 120€ can be invested much better, eg for headphones :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 03:31 PM - 11/09/11
Just got my hd595+dss. I gotta say, not what i expected at all after all these reviews. This setup is terrible compared to my X41 when it comes to competitive play. Only tried it on MW3 so far
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 03:32 PM - 11/09/11
edit: hd598
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:52 PM - 11/09/11
1) every headphone needs a 100-200h burnin or else they dont sound like they should

2) in your setup there must be some weak chain-part, i heard both so far and the difference is like night and day

3) make sure everything is setup correctly in the xbox money and only use optical output
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 04:02 PM - 11/09/11
Am using optical out, dolby on dss. Cant configure sound ingame tho
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:13 PM - 11/09/11
hi all.

Can anyone commet on the tritton ax720's and tritton ax pro's. Undecided.

They are gonna be used solely for the XBOX and nothing else, which is leaning me toward the 720's.

Am i gonna see a big difference in the surround on the PRO's.

Thanks a mil.

p.s - budget is around 120 euro. ;)





Please refer to this review of those 2 headsets compared to stereo headphones posted below.  Apparently the 720s sound better than the AX Pro's.  However, if you were going to go with Tritton you might want to wait until the Warheads come out later this year, but that might break your budget.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envy-aka-shin-czs-guide-to-headphone-gaming-particularly-with-dolby-headphone
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:22 PM - 11/09/11
Just got my hd595+dss. I gotta say, not what i expected at all after all these reviews. This setup is terrible compared to my X41 when it comes to competitive play. Only tried it on MW3 so far

Kinda felt the same way as you bud when I went through all the hassel of selling my X41's and switching to a DSS + JVC HARX 700.  They do sound better, but alot less conveinent than my wireless X41's.  However, I am using the DSS, with a set of KOSS KSC 75's and love them so much more.  It's like I have nothing on my ears.  I really love the sound.  But with that said, I can't say that there was an OMG difference when I switched.  Maybe, I felt that was do to not going with a higher end headphone.  I believe alot of the problems were solved just from switching to wired from wireless.  Those HD 595's are definitely higher end though.  When you say the setup was terrible, do you mean the sound?  Because obiviously the X41's form factor is amazing, being wireless and plus having a volume control switch on the headset and right by your controller.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nick7 on 10:12 PM - 11/09/11
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but you can buy a few cables from Amazon and just use your PC headset instead of buying a new headset specifically designed for Xbox.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:45 AM - 11/10/11
yes, the cheapest option, but you have 100% stereo sound then
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 03:02 PM - 11/10/11
Currently looking for new headphones.

those HD598 looks terrible. @#$% is this. The 1970's? wood furnishing and creme?

The other AKG K702 looks like something out of a SAW movie as far as a wired death contraption goes.

Hopefully they sound better than they look... The looks alone are seriously scaring me into not considering them.

They'd need to work on both PC and my consoles. and whats this DSS+ thingy everyone speaks of? My current headphones are 5.1, they were really good a few years back (forget the brand name), had so many speaksers a cup to give a more realistic, less virtualized sound..
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:04 PM - 11/10/11
You can start on page 1 for the whole story or you can start on page 3 to skip the small talk.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 05:53 PM - 11/10/11
Ahhhh ok. So these are just 2 channel stereo headphones with amplifier.

Great for music and nonpositional audio quality, not so great for games. even that amp is likely less equivalent than virtulization for doing 5.1 output. Things will sound a bit more crisp and clear, and the bass is prolly better... but footsteps, gunshots, etc will be less precise in their sense of direction.

I'm looking more for virtualized headsets or headsets with multiple speakers that do true 5.1 output (i understand that virtualized headphones do not, but are optimized for positional sound depths).

I currently have speedlink Medusa ProGamer 5.1's... each cup has several mini-speakers in them for directional positioning, that would be true 5.1.

They work great, well did, but looking for something like this more compatible with something other than my pc...

trying to decided between Astro a30 or a40 with maxamp, or even something like Razer Cacharea, which is pretty much for pc alone. These are optimized a little better for positional stuff.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 06:33 PM - 11/10/11
made my mind up... just ordered a pair of these:

http://www.astrogaming.com/a40-audio-system-mlg-edition

:)

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 06:54 PM - 11/10/11
oh t-noes!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:46 PM - 11/10/11
Ahhhh ok. So these are just 2 channel stereo headphones with amplifier.

Great for music and nonpositional audio quality, not so great for games. even that amp is likely less equivalent than virtulization for doing 5.1 output. Things will sound a bit more crisp and clear, and the bass is prolly better... but footsteps, gunshots, etc will be less precise in their sense of direction.

I'm looking more for virtualized headsets or headsets with multiple speakers that do true 5.1 output (i understand that virtualized headphones do not, but are optimized for positional sound depths).

I currently have speedlink Medusa ProGamer 5.1's... each cup has several mini-speakers in them for directional positioning, that would be true 5.1.

They work great, well did, but looking for something like this more compatible with something other than my pc...

trying to decided between Astro a30 or a40 with maxamp, or even something like Razer Cacharea, which is pretty much for pc alone. These are optimized a little better for positional stuff.

Dolby headphone sounds better to me than the true 5.1 headphones.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 07:47 PM - 11/10/11
made my mind up... just ordered a pair of these:

http://www.astrogaming.com/a40-audio-system-mlg-edition

:)

All I can say is fail..........
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 08:10 PM - 11/10/11
according to reviews and user feedback, most definetely not. The a40 with the mixamp does a really good job at being portable between my pc and consoles. the others dont seem to be.

also seems like my current medusa beat out one of the popular Sennheiser HD's in a pretty indepth review

http://techgage.com/article/speedlink_medusa_51_and_sennheiser_hd555/1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:21 PM - 11/10/11
Lol... somebody either didn't read or already had his mind made up.

Dolby Surround Emulation with a proper headphone destructifies any "true" 5.1 multi-driver headset.

Whatevs... tis your money.  We just offer opinions.  Let us know how you like it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 08:26 PM - 11/10/11
I can't justify $600+ on the stuff to get the dolby setup. I paid $200 for the a40, and it seems to be a great product from all the reading, and works very nicely.

$500+ for a home theatre system... yes!

$500+ for headphones and amplifiers... not so much.

When I think $500 or more, i think of things i could be upgrading in my PC, or guns, or something

Different strokes for different folks :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 08:45 PM - 11/10/11
since my a40's come with the mixamp that seems to be a very beloved amp on the market, and alot of the sennheiser guys recommned them for the hd 598's... i think i'll buy a sennheiser hd598 to compare with.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:43 PM - 11/10/11
yeah am using a dt 770 pro as well, closed headphones for the win :)

the a40 arent a good choice tbh, it does its job but  the money-quality relation just aint right
Title: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Old Man Jeanty on 09:51 PM - 11/10/11
Just got my hd595+dss. I gotta say, not what i expected at all after all these reviews. This setup is terrible compared to my X41 when it comes to competitive play. Only tried it on MW3 so far

wash your ears.!! ;)

Lmao....seriously tho I like classic setup of the ad700 and the astro mixamp. That's the go to setup right there unless I'm mistaken
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:29 PM - 11/10/11
Anyone notice how much better the sound quality is in mw3 than Bo?

Modded hd555 + mixamp = insanely better sound for gaming and cheaper = WIN!!!

Astro a40= expensive, crap sound = FAIL!

on the other hand if your happy and they don't break I guess you spent wisely!? ............... lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:56 PM - 11/10/11
Who ever said anything about the Dolby emulation setup being $500?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 01:04 AM - 11/11/11
well...

if it wasnt $500 before. it is now

just ordered the $200 a40 with the amp included and $249 for the hd598

 :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:48 AM - 11/11/11
Keep the mixamp and the Senn's.  Return the A40's.  No longer $500.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 12:21 PM - 11/11/11
Yeah, the mixamp definetely a keeper... but I'll have to see which headset sounds better. One of them definetely will be returned... cant afford to keep both. But cant beat being able to try them both out  :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 02:55 PM - 11/11/11
If money is a concern audiotechnica ad700 at about $100 shipped would have been a good option
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 02:37 AM - 11/13/11
I need help!!  I got the senn PC360s with the DSS and they sound great.  However, I can't get the mic to work at all.  I have a 3.5mm to 2.5mm converter and I can get the output to go from the xbox controller to the headset (tested this by using "play through headset" and playing a message received from a friend), but anything I record is really really quiet.  I have to yell and that is only barely audible.  Am I doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:29 AM - 11/13/11
Yeah, the mixamp definetely a keeper... but I'll have to see which headset sounds better. One of them definetely will be returned... cant afford to keep both. But cant beat being able to try them both out  :P

Play the start movie of Crysis2 with the mixamp and you will know why you want to send it back. No need to buy a AD700 for it, some crappy headset is enough as the Mixamp is the weakest in chain anyway.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:32 AM - 11/14/11
Just to complete things on the highend side. There are three alternatives to drive a reference class Headset +250 Ohm properly, none has mixing.

1. DSS with Fiio E9 or E7 as the DSS lacks the power.

2. The unpayable Beyerdynamic Headzone (above 1000 Euro) could be the best Surround available.
http://www.beyerdynamic.de/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/at-home/headphones-amps/headzone-consumer-base-station-h1.html#

3. The Yamaha V371 that is cheap can have a Home theatre plugged, has surround and is powerful enough for high Ohm headsets 
http://www.amazon.de/Yamaha-RX-V371-Bl-AV-Receiver-1080p-kompatibel/dp/B004TK0H3W/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1321249207&sr=1-1-catcorr
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jimmy707 on 12:39 AM - 11/14/11
Cheers for all the tips gentlemen, I never even considered getting a decent set of headphones till I read this topic. Just got a set of AD700's and a DSS, I'm looking forward to seeing if it improves my game. Since SPIDF is digital does the cable quality matter? I'm assuming it doesn't because shielding and the likes wouldnt have an impact yea?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:07 AM - 11/14/11
jimmy when you have it make sure to run it 100 or 200h straigt with music, the headphones need to "burn in" before they sound the way they should
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:35 PM - 11/14/11
Any word on the Creative Recon 3d review?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 07:02 PM - 11/14/11
Any word on the Creative Recon 3d review?

There is already a thread about this in the General section (i.e. not under XIM3).
http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=17253.0

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Fatal 0Efx on 07:06 PM - 11/14/11
jimmy when you have it make sure to run it 100 or 200h straigt with music, the headphones need to "burn in" before they sound the way they should

This is a highly debated topic.  Just like new cars having 1-2k mile break ins, or oil changes every 3k.  From what I have found, there is no real proof if this break-in period has any actual benefit.  There have even been reports of break-in periods being BAD for your headphones, if done at too high a volume.

I'm not saying don't burn your headphones in.  Just take it with a grain of salt.  Hell I actually burned mine in (just in case) using the following site:  http://www.jlabaudio.com/burn.php

Anyhoo...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 11:32 PM - 11/14/11
After having the PC360/Mixamp combo now for a while I suddenly got a problem with the headphones. I'am playing with max sound on the mixamp and got the game/voice volume in the middle, this worked out fine these last weeks I had it. For some reason now, when I drag my mic down to talk and have this setup there is a earnumbing schreeching voice that appears. The only way for it to disappear is it I either lower the game volume on the mixamp to approximatly the middle (I got it maxed and basically use the headphone to lower the sound when I need to) or if I more or less turn the lower button to only output the game voice and no mic voice. I can't figure out what it is, the only thing that has happened to the headphones since I got them would be the 3m long cable has been entangled but that would then have a negative impact on the gamevolume aswell which it has not had. Feel free to help me out would really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 03:30 PM - 11/19/11
just got the sennheiser 598HD's and the astro a40 with the mixamp.

Man, you guys weren't lying... those sennheiser's are really badass audio quality.

UNFORTUNATELY, so are the Astro A40's. And in games.. the ASTRO's seem a little better quality and using the Dolby Mixamp, have a better 5.1 virtualization (prolly because the mixamp is astro too and is optimized for the headset).

But in playing MP3's, the sennheiser DEFINETELY wins. escpeially in bass management.

I hooked them up using a TOSlink to my new Bluray receiver... threw on Starwars and Jurassic Park...

and interestingly enough... I can't quite notice a difference between the two... am I doing something wrong?

For gaming, I'm Im gonna have to recommend the A40's.

For music and audio recording manipulation and editing... definetely the 598HD's.

Thus far with movies... its a coinflip.. either is just as good.

and this mixamp kicks some serious @#$%.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:42 PM - 11/19/11
have you burned them in?
the hd598 sound a lot better after a 100h - 200h burnin
it should outplay the a40 then
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 03:50 PM - 11/19/11
well the a40 headset was slightly used... the sennheiser brand new...

I'll try letting the sennheiser's burn in a bit and then let you know what i think.

I may just end up keeping both. Their both that awesome. You can hear sounds you didn't even know existed in music and movies and games...

edit: does burn in really affect it as much as people say it does?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 04:57 PM - 11/19/11
Is there any quality setup I can get for under 100$? I have a good PC clip on mic, and was hoping to get a headset and use it along with the mic for gaming on my Xbox. Unfortunately I can only spend 100$ max, is there any headphones and whatever else I would need to do what I want?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 05:03 PM - 11/19/11
dynamic...

grab this and the DSS amp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling-/330641736164?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cfbc881e4

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Channel-Dolby-Surround-Processor-Mac/dp/B003O0KICS

might be a few dollars of $100, but pretty @#$% close

will give you a $300 audio experience for about $110

Thos sennheisers hd555's are very highend stuff... and alot of people say almost as good (if not as good) as the hd598's (which are condisered one of the best headsets ever)

You will not find a better headset + amp deal than that for under $100.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:44 PM - 11/19/11
great advice beaver, id suggest the same dynamic

dss + hd555 is a very good choice
there are also very very easy tutorials for how to make a hd 595 out of a hd 555
(no warranty lose, just remove the earcup-film)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 07:06 PM - 11/19/11
If your playing mp3s the quality is lost anyway. Those things suck. Play some good quality audio through them!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 11:34 PM - 11/19/11
Thanks, hopefully I can get those hd555s. Will this setup let me use my mic?

dynamic...

grab this and the DSS amp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling-/330641736164?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cfbc881e4

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Channel-Dolby-Surround-Processor-Mac/dp/B003O0KICS

might be a few dollars of $100, but pretty @#$% close

will give you a $300 audio experience for about $110

Thos sennheisers hd555's are very highend stuff... and alot of people say almost as good (if not as good) as the hd598's (which are condisered one of the best headsets ever)

You will not find a better headset + amp deal than that for under $100.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 01:16 AM - 11/20/11
that im not sure about. I  *beleive* so, because its very popular with gamers... but maybe someone else here who owns one can clarify that the Earforce DSS has mic throughput... anyone?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 01:19 AM - 11/20/11
Also another question...

I've got a fiber TOSlink for optical audio out running to my mixamp from my 360. Since the mixamp does the decoding for 5.1/7.1 virtualization... do I have to set my Xbox 360 audio settings on the settings menu from Dolby Stereo to Dolby Digital with 5.1? Or do I just leave it at Dolby Stereo (under optical audio options in the 360's settings menu)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:39 AM - 11/20/11
that im not sure about. I  *beleive* so, because its very popular with gamers... but maybe someone else here who owns one can clarify that the Earforce DSS has mic throughput... anyone?

Nope
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: beavermatic on 02:35 AM - 11/20/11
any suggestions roads for amps that do for around that $50-$70 price range? I know mixamp does, but thats waaaaay out of the price range
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 02:47 AM - 11/20/11
Has anyone used the senn x320? Would be interesting if they're good
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 03:25 AM - 11/20/11
any suggestions roads for amps that do for around that $50-$70 price range? I know mixamp does, but thats waaaaay out of the price range

there is no such mixing thing in the price range sorry except gaming headsets. Cheapest is if you already own a receiver that can do dolby suround like the Yamaha RX-V series. The Mixamp is not worth the money.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 08:21 AM - 11/20/11
If I had a higher budget whats a setup you could recommend so that I can use my mic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:52 AM - 11/20/11
If I had a higher budget whats a setup you could recommend so that I can use my mic.

Add in a mixer. Something designed for xbox like the steelseries spectrum mixer (which roads hates)
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Spectrum-Audio-Mixer/dp/B004BK45CO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321804200&sr=8-1

For a tight budget you could just use the "play voice through speakers" option in the dashboard and get a 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable to send voice to the controller.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:48 AM - 11/20/11
Yes I tried it and it failed. They should label it Steelseries "beehive".
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:51 AM - 11/20/11
Thanks, hopefully I can get those hd555s. Will this setup let me use my mic?

dynamic...

grab this and the DSS amp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling-/330641736164?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cfbc881e4

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Channel-Dolby-Surround-Processor-Mac/dp/B003O0KICS

might be a few dollars of $100, but pretty @#$% close

will give you a $300 audio experience for about $110

Thos sennheisers hd555's are very highend stuff... and alot of people say almost as good (if not as good) as the hd598's (which are condisered one of the best headsets ever)

You will not find a better headset + amp deal than that for under $100.

no but you can still use a headset
set xbox audio options to "play through both" or "play through speaker"
then you buy an external mic as well as a 3,5mm to 2,5mm adapter and connect the mic with your controller mic port

its not the nicest way but the cheapest and fastest
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 10:51 AM - 11/20/11
Atm I use a cheap pair of sennheiser headphones to play. I use a hdmi to dvi cable to play video and use the component cables to transfer audio into a single cable and then plug my headphones into this cable. I cut off the microphone part of the xbox headset and taped it to the side of my headphones, the mic was then plugged into my xbox controller. All sound was going through my headphones. I'm not sure of the quality of the sound using this setup, but would the DSS work with this?

I should have mentioned this before sorry for the trouble lol.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:58 AM - 11/20/11
DSS you need the toslink optical out of the xbox to have Dolby surround.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:06 AM - 11/20/11
the only thing that changes is that you no longer use component cables for audio but the optical output of the xbox
it goes into the dss and then your sennheisers are plugged into the dss
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:34 AM - 11/20/11
LOL
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 12:46 PM - 11/20/11
So optical output -> dss -> sennheisers and xbox mic -> controller + change sound preferences and everything will work fine? Will I lose any quality doing this? Also what do you guys think of the ATH AD700s I found some cheap online incase I can't get the hd555s
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:55 PM - 11/20/11
Yes that’s right, Quality will improve to your current setup. The AD700 is very good for the Money. Wait for Odin to repeat this. :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 08:46 PM - 11/20/11
Thanks I'll probably be getting a DSS now and purchasing the AD700s sometime in the future. Will I need to buy some kind of audio out cable for the DSS to plug into the xbox or does the DSS come with one?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:22 PM - 11/20/11
There is a short optical cable with it if I remember right. Check on Amazon to be sure.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 10:55 PM - 11/20/11
Yup it comes with one, thanks. Now to hopefully order the XIM3 quick enough tomorrow for it to get to me by Thanksgiving :p
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 03:06 PM - 11/21/11
i do appologize for nto reading all 33 pages of thread...

quick general question....
XIM3 supports Turtlebeach x41 mic communications? 

I have seen things about XIM3 supporiign mics. THe Turtle Beach x41's still plug into the mic socket is that supported ????

thanks and sorry
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 03:16 PM - 11/21/11
The mic port is on the controller, not the XIM.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 03:30 PM - 11/21/11
sorry didnt know i needed to calrify the positioning of the microphone jack...


i assumed most had a general knowledge of the devices being used here...apparently not....

DOES XIM SUPPORT VOICE FROM A TURTLE BEACH X41 was the question.........

the transmission is through the XIM (even though it does not plug into the xim ROADS) the XIM still transmits that data to the xbox soo again my question is:

ROADS, will the XIM3 support voice transmission from my turtle beach x41 to my wired (:))controller, through my XIM3(:)) to my xbox, over the internet, to my buddies xbox, through his XIM3 to his controller to his turtle beach x41 headset ?????


thank you kindly sidewalk XD
 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:32 PM - 11/21/11
turtle beach x41 is ofc supported, everything that works without the xim3 also works with it, as long as the controller plays a part in it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 03:42 PM - 11/21/11
thanks that is all i was looking for...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 08:45 PM - 11/21/11
it works perfect. I know.  I owned one.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 03:30 AM - 11/22/11
I've been using my pc360's with the mixamp for a while now but iam really not that impressed anymore.. At first the sound was amazing but for some reason i can't for example hear footsteps and reloads and stuff clear at all compared to the @#$% madcatz i used before. Am i just not used to the 5.1 sound yet or what's the problem?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 07:46 AM - 11/22/11
I've been using my pc360's with the mixamp for a while now but iam really not that impressed anymore.. At first the sound was amazing but for some reason i can't for example hear footsteps and reloads and stuff clear at all compared to the @#$% madcatz i used before. Am i just not used to the 5.1 sound yet or what's the problem?
I could be right on with this or way off...dependingon setup...

truthfully from what it sounds like you need to get either a new optical cable or a optical polishing kit to polish the ends of the fiber for optical sound. . .
it does wonders. ... you could have even broken or cracked the cable and not getting that great of sound any longer...
give it a try you may be back to OEM levels if you do. . .

IMO 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 08:49 AM - 11/22/11
Haven't really touched the cable and I only had it for a couple of weeks, I think the fact that the game is new and my headphones I haven't really thought much of it. But I really can't pinpoint locations, let alone hear them from a bit far off like I could with my crap madcatz headset so I don't know...This made me look into a TB px5 or a wireless mixamp along with the a40's instead to remove all the cables since the game sound on thse are not what I expected at all.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 10:57 AM - 11/22/11
you may want to test the settings you currently have set for the headset...
Also tweak the Audio settings of the xbox. ..

Just rattling off things i have come accross in the past...
My x41's dont seem to be as loud in mw2 or 3 as they were in WAW.
I have pushed all volume control to the max and still cant get that distinct area of footsteps and sometimes really not until they are on my back. . . .

May be something that the game has to sort of not make a good headset that much more of an edge. . . not sure.

i know if i turn my headset all the way up it should be blowing my ears out and it does not...I usually play at max throughout the game. . .and it seems to be not loud enough...


on a positive not i still cant hear the wife complaining while im playing so noise cancelation is still at peak performance :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 01:40 PM - 11/22/11
Ye I'am gonna compare it to BO and MW2 aswell I guess. Hahaha noise cancellation :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 01:36 PM - 11/23/11
Anyone know a brick and mortar to get a set of harx700s from?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Khilborn on 01:49 PM - 11/23/11
I just purchased the Turtle Beach XP500. I love the thing. I have been using it for about a week now.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jimmy707 on 05:55 PM - 11/23/11
Hey u guys were talking about using straight stereo a while back, can someone update me on the pro's/cons compared to 5.1 virtual surround. I got my AD700's a week back but I'm still waiting on my DSS to arrive. I'm currently using straight stero surround, and it's meh. Would it be worth trying to get used to it from the start or will I have better spacial awareness with the 5.1? Keep in mind I haven't been using 5.1 before this, or headphones at all for that matter so my brain hasn't adjusted to either sound format.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:01 PM - 11/23/11
Anyone know a brick and mortar to get a set of harx700s from?

I have some that i can throw on xmarket.tk for you if you want, or you can pm me for info. I bought them for a friend but he decided to go with something else instead. I was planning on modding them into a boom mic headset before i put them on, but if you want them as just headphones they are available.

I've never encountered them in a store.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 08:21 PM - 11/23/11
Pm'ing now
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 11:45 PM - 11/23/11
Just got my DSS, in my dashboard xbox system audio settings what should I set it to: Digital Dolby 5.1 or Digital Dolby with WMA Pro?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:00 AM - 11/24/11
DSS cant do WMA Pro its for streamed movies and special receivers.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: murdo on 06:18 AM - 11/24/11
are the DSS any good. Was gonna get the turtle beach dpx21 for the sons xmas, but went and got the tritton AX720's instead.

Did i make the right choice???  :-X

All this headset talk causes some debate eh. Could argue all day but no real winners for the basic user me thinks..

Cheers lads.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Gabbagod on 06:31 AM - 11/24/11
These any good?

Turtle Beach DXL1 Headset

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0063CE4DI?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:53 PM - 11/24/11
for the price, not that bad
dss alone is 50$ i think

so even if the headphones are bad, you dont lose that much money
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 07:34 AM - 11/25/11
I'm now using a DSS and JVC harx700s and it's a great cheap combo. If I got a mixer would my audio quality improve? Whats the point of one if I can just send chat sound through my headphones?

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:53 AM - 11/25/11
mixer: you can change the volume of the chat and gamesound to your likings
the dss cannot do it, you can only change the game volume but not the chat volume
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Dynamic on 12:51 PM - 11/25/11
Dashboard -> settings tab last one I think -> voice: This lets me change chat volume and game volume. Is it not the same?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Flamemonkey on 12:54 PM - 11/25/11
Yeah, but people like their stuff on the DSS as well, so hey, that's a con to some.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:35 PM - 11/25/11
Dashboard -> settings tab last one I think -> voice: This lets me change chat volume and game volume. Is it not the same?

yes but you cannot exceed this

some minor games are still too loud, you wont understand your mates even on voicevolume 10
also i like to set my mates to a very quiet level when gaming, and once its over i usually raise it again till the next one start :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Gabbagod on 02:47 AM - 11/26/11
Does using 5.1 headphones have much benefit over using a 5.1 sound system in a small room? Does everything sound clearer and more precise?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xabierr on 03:08 AM - 11/26/11
What do you need to use the mic with dss ? something like this ?

http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-XBOX-Headset-Connector/dp/B001FSKK2O

Right now im using xbox wireless mic for chating 

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Headset/dp/B003OAG8CC/ref=sr_1_6?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1322298480&sr=1-6
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 03:50 AM - 11/26/11
Does using 5.1 headphones have much benefit over using a 5.1 sound system in a small room? Does everything sound clearer and more precise?

No, use a good 5.1 sound system instead Headset ist the best positioning by far. Its just most of us cant have constant warsounds at home. Wifes do berserk if listening to long to COD.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: MrFresh on 08:53 AM - 11/26/11
Any good?

AIMON HP HMA-1 Mixer/Amplifier
http://tuact.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemid=84&lang=en
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 01:35 PM - 11/26/11
I apologize if this post gets a little lengthy, but I wanted to offer my personal reviews for a few of the products mentioned in this thread and then to get some advice on a new pair of headphones. 

I purchased the AD700s many months ago and must say that I love them.  The positional audio is outstanding when it comes to identifying the location of things such as footsteps.  As far as comfort, I can honestly say I've never experienced a more comfortable pair of headphones in my life.  It's truly as if I'm not even wearing them at all. 

For my mic, I used the "Fragtality" mod that so many people here and around the internet have raved about.  It has worked out OK for me, but I haven't been totally happy with it.  For one, it's just plain ugly.  Sound quality is by far the most important thing to me in finding a good set of headphones, but I want them to still look slick and professional, regardless of how dumb that might sound.  Aside from aesthetics, people have reported that this mic is extremely loud when I talk, and that's with my voice transmission volume turned as low as it will go (PS3). 

Because I wanted to go for a more all-in-one solution, I purchased the PC360s.  There are many good things that I can say about this headset, but few of them have anything to do with the actual quality of sound.  For starters, it is so nice to have a built-in mic.  Unlike with the AD700s, it doesn't look like I'm wearing some ugly Frankenstein contraption on my head.  Building on the actual design of the headset, I LOVE how you can raise the mic boom to mute it.  This is so much more convenient than running your hand along the cord trying to find the mute switch.  Lastly, the volume adjuster on the right ear cup is a great little feature.  I can't say that I've used this very often, but I can see how it would come in handy for a lot of people. 

Now for the important part: sound.  After using the AD700s, the PC360s really feel like a step back.  I'm not going to pretend to know a lot of fancy audiophile jargon, but the only way I can explain it is to say that the range of highs and lows does not come close to comparing to the AD700s.  Whereas with the AD700s I can close my eyes and tell you exactly where a sound is coming from, I've found the positional audio with the PC360s to be much more vague.  As convenient as this headset is overall, the poor sound compared to the AD700s was an absolute deal breaker. 

And now for the part where I beg for advice!  I'm looking to get a new pair of headphones.  These will be used almost exclusively for gaming.  When I purchased the AD700s, I was looking to get the best bang for my buck.  Now, I'm willing to open my wallet a little more and get an unconditionally solid pair of headphones instead of some that are "great for the price." 

I am very interested in the Beyerdynamic DT880s.  From what I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like I can't really go wrong with these.  I do have a few questions, though:

- Should I go with the 880 Pro or the 880 Premium version? 
- If I go for the Premium version, should I go with 32, 250, or 600 ohms impedance?  Keep in mind this is almost solely for gaming. 

I should add that I am using the Astro Mixamp.  I've read every page of this thread, so I know that will cause many groans, but it just offers me the most ease-of-use in switching back and forth between the PS3 and 360.  That being said, I have been reading a lot about pairing a FiiO E7 or E9 with the Astro Mixamp for the best results.  Would this be recommended with any of the above 880 headphones in conjunction with the Astro Mixamp? If so, should I go for the E7 or E9 specifically?

I'd also be interested in hearing mic recommendations.  Like I said earlier, I'm not a huge fan of the Fragtality-type mods where you velcro/tape/whatever a boom mic to the side of your headphones.  I've also tried the Zalman clip-on mic which many people have recommended here, but I found it absolutely terrible.  It would not pick up my voice at all unless I physically turned my head downwards and spoke directly into it. 

On a related note, I just wanted to commend NOOBs on that beautiful 880 mic mod from a few pages back.  I would swear that was done by Beyerdynamic themselves if I didn't know better.  If you lived in the US, I would pay you in a heartbeat to do that for me.  Could you maybe point me towards a quality tutorial for doing something like that?  After I get a new pair of headphones, I may give it a shot on my AD700s. 

Last but not least, I wanted to alert you guys to a potentially awesome deal over at Amazon.  They've been doing "Lightning Deals" for Black Friday weekend, and at 3:15 PM EST (about 45 minutes from now), they're doing a deal for the Sennheiser HD 600s.  Just click on the link below and select Electronics from the categories dropdown, and then scroll to the right until you see it.  They have a countdown until the deal starts, and there's a limit to how many they will sell at the special price once it starts.  If it's anything like the other deals they've been doing this weekend, expect to see a HUGE price drop.  Just make sure you're ready to buy them the second it goes active.   

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Friday-After-Thanksgiving-Sale/b/ref=bf2011_gwcsm_tag?ie=UTF8&node=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-csm-1&pf_rd_r=0Z37B2ZK4HP3M2CGY3J7&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1331646742&pf_rd_i=507846 (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Friday-After-Thanksgiving-Sale/b/ref=bf2011_gwcsm_tag?ie=UTF8&node=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-csm-1&pf_rd_r=0Z37B2ZK4HP3M2CGY3J7&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1331646742&pf_rd_i=507846)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 02:16 PM - 11/26/11
UPDATE: They have them for $260.  You have to go through the Black Friday link above.  It won't give you the Black Friday price if you try to purchase them like normal. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:41 PM - 11/26/11
UPDATE: They have them for $260.  You have to go through the Black Friday link above.  It won't give you the Black Friday price if you try to purchase them like normal. 

for gaming, only the 32 ohm version
250 or 600 is too high for the xbox or any regular gaming amp, the sound will be super quiet

also dont buy the dt880 if its just for gaming
this headphone is too good, its actually limited by the crappy xbox soundcard
the ad700 you have is the best headset to buy if its just about gaming
at least money/output wise

ofc more pricey headphones give a slightly better sound, but after a certain money-limit they will all sound more or less the same since they are limited by the xbox soundcard
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 05:56 PM - 11/26/11
Any feedback on the FiiO E7/E9? Is there anything I would gain from routing the mixamp through that before hitting the headphones?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:14 PM - 11/26/11
Odin is right dishing out so much money for the beyers for xbox is like trying to polish a turd.

Also I was perusing some of the audiophile forums such as head fi and whatnot. Be careful with those guys half of them are throwing around audio terms that they have no idea about. Its very obvious. I actually was embarrased reading some of the posts in there. I guess this is true for any community though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 07:41 PM - 11/26/11
Any good?

AIMON HP HMA-1 Mixer/Amplifier
http://tuact.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemid=84&lang=en

Bump...anybody ever used this.  Looks like the definitive answer to the Astro Mixamp.  Looks like just the mixer though, which is fine.  Maybe you can use it with a DSS or Creative Recon to form an awesome combo.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:25 PM - 11/26/11
Any feedback on the FiiO E7/E9? Is there anything I would gain from routing the mixamp through that before hitting the headphones?

If roads routed his poop through a gold toilet it wouldn't make it stink less.

But honestly, only if the mixamp cant drive your headphones by itself would you need a fiio anything
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:28 PM - 11/26/11
Any good?

AIMON HP HMA-1 Mixer/Amplifier
http://tuact.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemid=84&lang=en

Bump...anybody ever used this.  Looks like the definitive answer to the Astro Mixamp.  Looks like just the mixer though, which is fine.  Maybe you can use it with a DSS or Creative Recon to form an awesome combo.

havent tested it, not sure how it works out
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 12:31 PM - 11/27/11
Just for chat and chat alone, can you use a set of OEM iPhone earbuds with a 3.5/2.5mm adaptor?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: wat on 03:09 PM - 11/27/11
i just kept it simple and went with the a40s. set me back like 270 but i like them for a lot of reasons, rather than getting a pair solely made for sound quality. its xbox, how good could sound quality get?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:39 AM - 11/28/11
Somebody a few pages back mentioned using the AIMON HP HMA-1 Mixer/Amplifier.  I asked them how well it works but haven't gotten a reply.  I actually emailed AIMON asking for a demo/reviewer kit and they said no... meh.

For those people asking for advice on chat/voice mixing with the DSS, go read starting on page 3.  I refuse to repeat myself again.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 02:18 PM - 11/28/11
First, I have read this entire thread twice now, but...

I have one question before I purchase a mixer (i already own the pc360 with DSS).  I connected the dss and the pc360 to the xbox controller (headset buddy) using a stereo y spliter.  I did this to get the xbox headset output to my pc360's becuase the sound is better than just setting the xbox "output to speakers only".  This caused a weird drop in quality where the sound was way less precise/detailed and basically just bad.  Will this same phenomemon happen if use a steelseries mixer?  or other desktop mixer?

Note:  I need the mixer becuase no matter what i set the xbox voice output to in the dashboard (Voice = 10 and Game = 1 with either headset, speaker, or both) I can rarely hear other players voice during gameplay.  I think the easy solution is steelseries mixer, but i got the DSS vice the mixamp because of better sound quality and I don't want to sacrifice that for the steelseries mixer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:21 PM - 11/28/11
Desktop mixer would sound the best but expect to pit some time in configuring it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:22 PM - 11/28/11
I have no experience with the Steelseries Spectrum mixer.  Some say it introduces some hiss (ahem roads), others say it works great.  All I can say is find somewhere that accepts full returns on open products and give it a try.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 02:52 PM - 11/28/11
Thanks for the quick reply.  Last,

Is there a some advantage/disadvantage between these two mixers?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/soundcraft-notepad-102-mixer/430565000000000 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/soundcraft-notepad-102-mixer/430565000000000)
and
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802/ (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802/)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:59 PM - 11/28/11
The Soundcraft Notepad has an Aux Send on each channel.  That will allow you to configure your setup so that you can mix in your own voice.  You can't do that with the Behringer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 03:19 PM - 11/28/11
Do you mean i will be able to mix my own voice that I hear or that i can mix my voice that others hear?  Sorry for the confusion, I just want to get this right.  Can the steelseries mix my voice?  Can I hear my own voice (in the headphones) with the steelseries mixer?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:20 PM - 11/28/11
I meant that you will be able to mix your voice for yourself to hear.

I dunno about the SS mixer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 03:33 PM - 11/28/11
I appreciate the help tuff!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:24 PM - 11/28/11
http://www.7summitz.com/index.php/products/aimon-hp.html

The AImon HP HMA-1 is only $45.99 + Free shipping.

Here is a video of a guy comfortably using it with a pair of  Audio Techinica AD-700's. Acutally he is not using it with the DSS, but by itseld in stereo mode, because it gives him better audio cues rather than being put into surround.  I don't think the Aimon hp does dolby surround.  I think it can be used along with the DSS to give you dolby surround and voice mixing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCIXG1hZHI
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jimmy707 on 05:00 PM - 11/29/11
I got my DSS a couple nights ago, and I gotta say I prefer Stereo over surround sound myself. The left and right cues with stero seem so much clearer, I only struggle with front and back cues. With surround, everything seems a little vague. Ill give surround a couple more days but Ill probably go back to stereo after that if it doesn't improve.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mitchmac on 05:44 PM - 11/29/11
I got my DSS a couple nights ago, and I gotta say I prefer Stereo over surround sound myself. The left and right cues with stero seem so much clearer, I only struggle with front and back cues. With surround, everything seems a little vague. Ill give surround a couple more days but Ill probably go back to stereo after that if it doesn't improve.

I noticed the same thing when i went to my 7.1 surround headset.
Surround sound seems definitely more proactively reactive, yet lacking the loudness and crispness and distinctness of location from a sound perspective.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 03:14 AM - 11/30/11
anyone know what sort of difference there is by using a high quality toslink to a cheapy standard one?
im using one i picked up from game for about 6 quid but have been told it might not sound as good as something from say monster cables etc
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:22 AM - 11/30/11
you can pay like 600-1000€ for a decent toslink (or even more if you like to ;) )

personally i got a 20€ one, very very thick, its also impossible to break it cause it has a anti bend feature after a certain degree of bending

personally im not sure how much better a very expensive toslink does, in the end ist just fibre optic
so id say stay with your cable
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: OHMz on 12:55 PM - 11/30/11
The dss is currently on amazon's deals today for $50.

Is the dss worth it? I hear they're better than the mixamp which is what I am on.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:56 PM - 11/30/11
yes read the topic for more information
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 01:08 PM - 11/30/11
I emailed the Tuact company with question about surround sound(dolby codec) of AIMON HP.They respond:


"Hello,

The Aimonhp does stereo sound.

Tuact"

So it cant be good with DSS.I hope that will be no loss of audio quality!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:13 PM - 11/30/11
The DSS outputs an analog stereo signal.  The AIMON HP accepts analog stereo as an input source.  As long as the AIMON HP doesn't degrade the input signal it should be the perfect companion to the DSS.  Only way to be sure of that is to have both products and do a response wave comparison.  I would do it... I just don't have $50 to blow on another piece of hardware.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:30 PM - 11/30/11
rabit just dont buy those pricy golden carrots and you re fine ;o
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:46 AM - 12/01/11
The difference in tosslink quality is not audible its just build quality. Its just a lightpipe any way you cut it. 1s and 0s all sound the same. yes the aimon will produce whatever effect the dss is going for since dss outputs stereo. Make sure the aimon accepts the output format of the dss though I havnt any experience with either so im not sure.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:38 AM - 12/01/11
The AIMON HP has TOSLINK, RCA, and USB audio inputs.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 10:22 AM - 12/01/11
Just got the DSS yesterday, and I've gotta say it's extremely quiet in comparison to the Astro. With the Astro I think I had my game volume at about 25% with the mixamp volume at 100%. With the DSS, I have to turn my game volume to 100% AND the DSS volume to 100%, and I still feel like it's not quite loud enough. Is this normal?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:25 AM - 12/01/11
What headphone do you use?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 11:16 AM - 12/01/11
AD700
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 11:21 AM - 12/01/11
check the input volume on the DSS.  I max out the input volume and just use the main volume knob (on the front of the dss) to control how loud it is. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 11:37 AM - 12/01/11
I already had both volumes maxed out. It still lacks in volume by a pretty significant margin compared to the mixamp. That's not to say the sound quality is worse, though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:39 AM - 12/01/11
I don't see how that is possible, unless you have some faulty hardware somewhere in the chain.  I keep my DSS knob at just below half and it borders on too loud.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:11 PM - 12/01/11
lookup the box of your ad700 and see what impendance it has, should be a value below 100 ohm

if thats the case, then either the dss is faulty or the headphones
also check your xbox audio settings if they are set to 10

you may also test the ad700 with your ipod, it should be capable of running it on a medium/loud volume
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 01:29 PM - 12/01/11
I've set them up next to each other and switched the same power, toslink, and headphone cables back and forth to make sure everything is as identical as possible.  The DSS is still much weaker when it comes to volume.  I guess I got a shoddy unit. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:32 PM - 12/01/11
Either you have a DOA DSS or you have hearing issues.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 01:40 PM - 12/01/11
It's not DOA...it technically works. And it's not my hearing because the Astro is significantly louder in a side-by-side comparison.

Like I said, the sound quality isn't bad by any means. I just thought it was weird that the DSS needed its volume cranked up with max in-game volume just to match a maxed out Astro at like 25% in-game volume.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:24 PM - 12/01/11
I can't turn my DSS past half way before the volume gets too loud.  I use a set of koss ksc 75's.  Same thing with a pair of JVC's harx 700 headphones.  There has to be something up.  Can't comment on the AD700's.  They shouldnt require too much juice to run them.  I do know the Astro does go louder, but when it gets past a certain level, then the sound starts degrading.  DSS supposedly has clean sound all the way through the volume settings.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 08:17 PM - 12/01/11
It sounds like theres something up with your setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 02:46 PM - 12/02/11
I know of at least 4 things that could affect the output volume on 360 using DSS.  #1 input volume on dss (max this out) #2 main volume control on dss (adjust to taste, but I have never gone past 50%) #3 game volume settings in game #4 the voice preferences for Voice/Game mixing.  Also, if your heaphones or speakers have volume control (input volume and/or ouput volume) then this is also an area to check.

Has anyone who has used both DSS and mixamp noticed that the mixamp is louder at similiar settings to the DSS?  Does the mixamp actually amplify (as the name suggests)?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: schnell on 03:44 PM - 12/02/11
Question: My goal is to use my own headphones and microphone (usb or phono) and I wanted to know what you guys use to connect the 360 chat port to the microphone/headphones.

The gaming headsets will have an all in one plug in solution, but is there a special cord adapter that allows me to plug in my own microphone?  How do I get it to feed into my headphones?

Sorry if this was covered (there are over 30 pages of responses in my fast browse I couldn't find someone inquiring the same thing).

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:13 AM - 12/03/11
easiest:
buy a 2,5mm to 3,5mm adapter, plug it into the controller and put your mic into the adapter
then in xbox settings set mic audio to "play through both" or "play through speakers" and you can hear it in your headphones

more pricey:
buy an amp that does the jop
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 07:32 AM - 12/03/11
Just ordered a dss + koss ksc75's. $65 shipped thanks to amazon :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 01:04 PM - 12/03/11
A 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter will not work with pc headset.  U will only be able to hear people but they cant hear u.  U need the "headset buddy" for xbox 360 or somthing similar. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:46 AM - 12/04/11
it works :)

2,5mm to 3,5mm into controller port
then an external 3,5mm mic into the adapter which connects it to the controller

in xbox menu set audio "play through both" or "play through speakers" so you can also hear the chatsound

used this for quite some time
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 01:44 PM - 12/04/11
I am using pc360 with desktop mixer and i have the mic plugged via xlr and auxsend to the pink end of headset buddy.  No matter what gain or aux output level i use i still have no voice.  Do i need an amp between my pc headset mic and mixer input?  I have also tried zalman mic with same results.

Last, i have everything else working (game sound and output chat) just no input voice.  I NEED HELP.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:54 PM - 12/04/11
maybe your controllers mic port is broken
its one of the most common problems with a controller, the mic port is quite a fragile part of the controller

if you can, try a different one or borrow a controller from a friend
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 02:01 PM - 12/04/11
I dont think its the mic port because if i connect the pc mic directly to the headset buddy (bypassing mixer) it works just fine.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:09 PM - 12/04/11
i see, the headset works as well on a different medium, eg computer?
(mic as well?)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 03:26 PM - 12/04/11
Mic works with xbox and pc.  I verified the xlr adapter works too.  Verified aux send works as an input to the headset buddy
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: magurin on 03:28 PM - 12/04/11
Senheisser HDR 180
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: butcha on 01:33 AM - 12/05/11
Sennheiser HD598 + Earforce DSS
for me by far the best from the best :)

I have testet many many headsets..
(Sharkoon xtatic, Tritton ax 720, Tritton ax pro, turtle beach x41, beyerdynamic dt770 pro, Audio Technica AD700, Astro A40, Sennheiser HD595, Razer Chimaera, Sennheiser PC360 )

as Soundprocessor is DSS my prefer..
I have testet: DSS, Astro MixAmp and Yamaha RXV-371 5.1,    DSS has the best sound.

The Sennheiser HD598 + Earforce DSS setup sounds great, i was just wondering, what do you use for mic?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:02 AM - 12/05/11
he modded his hd598 cable (which is detachable) and sleeved a boom-mic into it

just search for hd598 mods in the forum and you should find the topic with the pictures in it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: butcha on 04:13 AM - 12/05/11
Thanks Od1n. I found it. That looks pretty nice :)
Might try something like that.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 12:25 AM - 12/06/11
Had my Sennheiser PC360's for over a week now.  Was going to exchange them and emailed Tommyboy and he said these are pretty much the same.  I like that they are still under warranty and the extra price wasn't too bad.  Also it mutes when I swing the mic up.  So awesome for Lync chat when I need to get on a bridge or hit up a dev at work  8)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:53 AM - 12/06/11
I dont know man sennheiser... Behrringer. ill be honest and though my research isnt that thorough I feel like your paying for a german name. I could be wrong and I havnt first hand seen the build quality (which im sure is great tbh) but judging buy frequency response its not worth the money. any thoughts roads, odin?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: butcha on 04:52 AM - 12/06/11
Had my Sennheiser PC360's for over a week now.  Was going to exchange them and emailed Tommyboy and he said these are pretty much the same.  I like that they are still under warranty and the extra price wasn't too bad.  Also it mutes when I swing the mic up.  So awesome for Lync chat when I need to get on a bridge or hit up a dev at work  8)

Yeah, i have been looking at the PC360's too, might just get those instead to keep waranty :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: butcha on 04:53 AM - 12/06/11
I dont know man sennheiser... Behrringer. ill be honest and though my research isnt that thorough I feel like your paying for a german name. I could be wrong and I havnt first hand seen the build quality (which im sure is great tbh) but judging buy frequency response its not worth the money. any thoughts roads, odin?

Sennheiser has always been my fav. brand of headphones when it comes to music, they have an amazing sound. Never tried any of their gaming headsets tho.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: TorrentThisBullet on 06:18 AM - 12/06/11
I just purchased Turtle Beache's Limited Edition MW3 EarForce BRAVO..absolutely amazing. Expensive though, $200 after taxes.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:28 PM - 12/06/11
I dont know man sennheiser... Behrringer. ill be honest and though my research isnt that thorough I feel like your paying for a german name. I could be wrong and I havnt first hand seen the build quality (which im sure is great tbh) but judging buy frequency response its not worth the money. any thoughts roads, odin?

it depends on the product
ofc you always pay for the name, but in this example its actually worth it as you get lots of experience in headphones in return

the pc360 are a bit off the line id say
they re a good headset, probably the best (headset not headphone!) in the gaming market, but theres also some negative stuff to outpoint

like any other good headphone/microphone company, a real headset is always a bit of a rip off
(rip off in terms of price, not in quality)

here an example of beyerdynamic (austrian company)
their dt880 pro is about ~200€ i think
now the very same dt880 pro with a built in microphone values about ~320€
(ofc under a different name, but demount the headset and youll find the very same "ingredients" as in the dt880)

ofc now the question remains for why there is such a price cap
but its common among the good companies, they all do it this way


btw brands like madcatz do it the same way
they put some 20€ mini drivers and a even cheaper microphone and TADAAAA here is the brand new 250€ warhead special deluxe 5.1 mlg progaming mw3 licenced extreme tournament edition headset
(only difference, they do not sell quality nor do they offer the very same headphones for a smaller price without the mic)

well actually they do not do it on their own, they got chinese sub-companies doing this job for them



so this being said, its better to go with the ad700 + external mic than with the pc360
its the same pricerange but a similar priced headphone usually gives a better audio quality than a headset onthe very same pricelevel
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: zzDarkwingDuck on 01:39 PM - 12/06/11
I love the pc360s. Had the 350 xense edition i got with my sound card, those were great but I didn't like the closed feeling, felt like i had water in my ears. The open air design and fabric on the cups and headband for the 360s improved that. Plus they have more bass kick to them, which I didn't find wrong with the 350s, just noticed more bass with the 360s. I tried hooking them up to the headphone jack on the z5500 received and headset buddy and they're not as good. Sound is good if volume is turned up max but my voice doesn't carry over. I have to yell or have the mic in my mouth for someone to hear, even then it's distorted.

So I bought Senn's x320 headset, being as it's designed for the xbox it wouldn't have this issue. Sounds great, doesn't need max volume but the voice is still to quiet. Still haven't found a mic with better mic quality than the xbox wireless one.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jimmy707 on 06:57 PM - 12/06/11
My dog has eaten my 2 wireless headsets and 3 wired ones, anyone know of a titanium clip on mic or something I can use with my AD700's, prefereably anything not made from kibble.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 08:59 PM - 12/06/11
thanks for elaborating odin... actually i thought beyerdynamic was german aswell.  i think i confused the two companies behrringer and beyer, i did have some drinks in me when i wrote that. I see what you are saying definitely though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:23 PM - 12/06/11
Beyerdynamic is German and resides in Heilbronn and that is still Germany. AKG is the Austrian company.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 09:04 PM - 12/07/11
I recently stumbled across the Modmic (http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323312466&sr=8-1) while browsing another forum for a good microphone solution for my AD700s.  I just received it today, and wow...I wish I would have found this a LOT sooner.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ic4fSzXToSs&hd=1

Here are some shots of my AD700s with and without the mic attached:
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/eXcero/withmic.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/eXcero/without.jpg)

Unless you feel comfortable taking your headphones apart and installing a boom mic jack yourself, this is the best mic solution you are going to find by far.  I tried the Zalman, and it was absolutely terrible.  Then I did the "Fragtality" mod with a chopped off Labtec microphone.  It was nicer, but it was honestly just very ugly and bulky and not the most convenient thing in the world. 

The Modmic just pops off and on so easily, and when you're not wearing the mic, the only aesthetic blemish is the magnet which is smaller than a dime. 

I don't mean to sound so overly enthusiastic, but it's just that I have tried soooooo many mic solutions with my AD700s, and it is a relief to know that my look is over for good.  I promise you you cannot go wrong with this thing. 






Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:17 PM - 12/07/11
Yeah, I have that mic. If you are in Germany or EU I am selling mine. If you want a perfect solution contact Tommyboy here in the forums.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: JayinThaz on 12:58 AM - 12/08/11
omg i can use my Dr Dre Beats pro to game now.....sick!!!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 01:10 AM - 12/08/11
Lmao oh dear
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 02:50 AM - 12/08/11
I would like to invest in a good headphone setup and will probably go for the ad700 with dds.I have never tried playing with a decent headset and not in 5.1 or 7.1. Is it really worth it? I assume using sitrep pro ill be able to hear the direction of players footsteps like from behind, to the left, right etc. I've used a crappy set of headphones plugged into my speakers but I couldn't tell where the footsteps were coming from. Sorry for this noob question just never played with a decent headset before. Thanks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 04:07 AM - 12/08/11
Not really worth it for sound whoring in mw3. audio in this game is retarded. mw2 and bo it was amazing. i'd get it anyways for gaming in general though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 04:23 AM - 12/08/11
Is there anyone that is selling a modded mic for the HD598. Heard someone were doing it and I live in Europe aswell.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 05:34 AM - 12/08/11
Badnaffy alias Nobstradamus alias Silenttrigger is doing them see in the German thread not sure if he still does. Depends on what you pay him I guess.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:55 AM - 12/08/11
Not really worth it for sound whoring in mw3. audio in this game is retarded. mw2 and bo it was amazing. i'd get it anyways for gaming in general though.

yes thats true

if its just for mw3, stay with your current headphones
for any other game the dss + ath ad700 is a very good choice and will surely make a noticeable difference

and lol, my bad, mixed up akg with beyer :S
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 09:12 AM - 12/10/11
Tried texting Noob but got no reply:/ ye the sound in mw3 is crap with my mixamp/HD598 combo but using dead silence made it alot better thoug.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: i3ond on 03:48 PM - 12/10/11
Can anyone give me a setup for the ps3 chat?  I have the DSS and AD700.

I was thinking of using a usb audio adapter plug a male into the sound out to a mix maybe and then to the ad700.  I dont have any knowledge about mix amps and what they do.  I think they give extra power to the headset and allow you to mix other inputs into the headset with an adjustable volume? but idk.  My mic is the reg 3.5mm plug that clips onto your headset cable or clothing.  Also I noticed feedback from the dss when it was usb powered by the ps3. when ever the HDD loaded there would be some feedback or a hiss.  Im using the digital out.  Would analog be better? I would like to keep the mix amp chat setup to under $100.

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 03:44 PM - 12/11/11
Instead of buying a mixer, someone on here discovered the Aimon hp HMA-1 which is a gaming chat mixer/amplifier that could probably  be used together with the DSS.  They have it here for $45 & Free shipping.

http://www.7summitz.com/index.php/aimon-hp.html

Also, look into the Antlion Mod mic, which is  just a tiny magnet that will connect to your headst, much easier than having to destroy your headphone and doing a custom job.  Look at amazon.

Both are well under $100 together.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: i3ond on 10:33 AM - 12/13/11
Thanks for the help Professor.

The sound is bad for everyone in mw3 and its not the only thing wrong with the @#$% game. I cant even tell someone was shooting at me until im dead half the time.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Choochoo on 01:14 PM - 12/13/11
I have been reading this thread from page 1, and I sold my Astros and mixamp for hd 598's and DSS and I can say there is a HUGE difference between the two.  I noticed it immediately, it was like mw3 had came alive and I wasn't listening to it in a hallow tunnel.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:19 PM - 12/13/11
I have been reading this thread from page 1, and I sold my Astros and mixamp for hd 598's and DSS and I can say there is a HUGE difference between the two.  I noticed it immediately, it was like mw3 had came alive and I wasn't listening to it in a hallow tunnel.

hehe nice to hear that

dont forget to burn in your headphones :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:29 PM - 12/13/11
Thanks for the help Professor.

The sound is bad for everyone in mw3 and its not the only thing wrong with the @#$% game. I cant even tell someone was shooting at me until im dead half the time.

Just so you know, Im not 100% sure on The Aimon HP and the DSS being combined.  I think it might work, but I'm still trying to get confirmation on whether you can use the 2 together to get 5.1 sound and a in game chat audio mixer.  They havent responded on facebook or youtube.  I know some people have even used the astro mixamp just for the chat portion and the DSS for the audio portion together.  But both are 5.1, and the aimon is only stereo.  I hope someone else who has more knowledge on the Aimon HP can chime in. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Burnin_Vernon on 05:45 PM - 12/13/11
I just purchased Turtle Beache's Limited Edition MW3 EarForce BRAVO..absolutely amazing. Expensive though, $200 after taxes.

I'm getting the MW3 Ear Force DELTA set for Xmas. :-)

I used to design and manufacture headphones for a living and I know how and where they are made. Almost any gaming headset is a massive rip-off and they are all overpriced.

But life is short. Have fun!

BV
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 11:44 PM - 12/13/11
I have been reading this thread from page 1, and I sold my Astros and mixamp for hd 598's and DSS and I can say there is a HUGE difference between the two.  I noticed it immediately, it was like mw3 had came alive and I wasn't listening to it in a hallow tunnel.

Can you help me abit, because I feel the exact opposite about this. I agree that the sound is way better. But im having a very hard time pinpointing people. I hear direction usually fine, but if the enemy is in a building I cant hear what floor level their on. I also don't hear footsteps as good as I used to, and not as good as my mate playing with x41.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 12:32 AM - 12/14/11
It's the game not the hardware you have.  MW2 and BO worked very well for sound whoring. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZwiFTi on 10:32 AM - 12/14/11
just a question for the guys who has turtle beach mw3 ear force delta:

What sounds can you turn off/modify?

Can you turn off the music in MW3 ingame? What about random map sounds? And footsteps?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: bronco8622 on 03:47 PM - 12/14/11
Im surprised noone makes like a mixamp or dss type solution with an in line eq. Thats what I would buy.

they do.


head over to head-fi.org


they simply cost a TON. and i mean a TONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. probably over  $500. i'mgonna bet over $2,000 though, haha.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ISheeper on 04:14 PM - 12/14/11
I just purchased Turtle Beache's Limited Edition MW3 EarForce BRAVO..absolutely amazing. Expensive though, $200 after taxes.

I'm getting the MW3 Ear Force DELTA set for Xmas. :-)

I used to design and manufacture headphones for a living and I know how and where they are made. Almost any gaming headset is a massive rip-off and they are all overpriced.

But life is short. Have fun!

BV
XIMPHONES please!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:17 PM - 12/14/11
Makes no sense that adding an inline eq would make a headset cost that much... Might aswell do it yourself or just use a mixer. I went over to the head fi forums for a minute place seemed overrun by noobs throwing around audio terms that didnt make sense in context.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:17 PM - 12/14/11
Sent an email to Tuact, and this is the response I got, lol, I was like, you want to send me one for free?

Hello,

Will the Aimon HP HMA-1 mixamp work with the Turtle Beach Earforce DSS Dolby Surround sound processor to allow 5.1 sourround sound from the DSS and in-game voice chat volume adjustments from the AImon HP HMA-1?  The DSS gives me 5.1 sound when playing xbox 360, but I have no way to adjust the in-game voice chat volume on my headphones and custom mic, b/c there are no controls on the DSS for that.  You have to use it with a Turtle Beach headset that has the controls built into the headset.  Or the only other way is to buy a desktop audio mixer or a steelseries xbox 360 mixer that plugs into the controller, but that product produces a bad audible hiss when used.   I hope you understand what I am trying to ask.  Thx.

 Reply

[email protected]

to me

Hello,

This could work but we have no confirmation without testing. If you do
test this please let us know.

Tuact
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:11 AM - 12/15/11
Lmfao words cannot accurately describe how funny that was.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nick7 on 01:54 PM - 12/15/11
I'm thinking about ordering a SteelSeries Siberia v2 headset. I read through a good portion of this thread and didn't see too much talk about them. All I saw was a bunch of love for the AD700s but I want a headset with a built in mic and I am not too concerned about epic sound quality.

All I play is Gears 3 and I have a pretty good sense of sound direction with my crappy Creative Fatality headset using stereo sound. I just feel like it's time for an upgrade.

So does anybody have feedback or reviews for the SteelSeries Siberia v2?

Thanks,
Nick.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Zear on 03:55 PM - 12/15/11
I have been reading this thread from page 1, and I sold my Astros and mixamp for hd 598's and DSS and I can say there is a HUGE difference between the two.  I noticed it immediately, it was like mw3 had came alive and I wasn't listening to it in a hallow tunnel.

Is there really that big of a difference with the DSS compared to the astro mixamp? I got the HD598 with the mixamp and from what i read it's just the ingame sound that's whacked but is it worth changing?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Choochoo on 09:39 PM - 12/15/11
to be honest I used my hd 598's with the mixamp for a bit then used my astros, and there was a difference, not a large one, but (for me) it wasn't until I switched it to the DSS that I saw a big difference.  (Keep in mind this is all my personal opinion)

I have had the astros for 2+ years, and now have had the 598's and DSS for about 3 weeks, and I have switched back and forth between them about 5-6 times (and mixed and matched components) and can notice a huge difference.  I am not audiophile or anything just a gamer and posting my review...  Don't go spending hundreds of dollars based on my opinion :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:41 AM - 12/16/11
no its true

sadly the mixamp is the only device that properly mixes sound which is the most important thing for me
until theres no better product i wont change :(
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: FreshNsoClean on 02:24 PM - 12/29/11
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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BulletSponge151 on 01:22 PM - 12/30/11
Im an audio noob but as i got them free my x41 turtles i LOVE the surround i get from them ....but they do crackle sometimes.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 06:02 PM - 12/30/11
New earforce dss2 is also available now.   Looks like a couple new features added. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:08 PM - 12/30/11
Hmm still no chat/game sound mix functions... They just want to make sure ppl use this product with turtle beach headsets that is why they dont add it. Annoying. Id definitely get it if it mixed like the mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 06:57 PM - 12/30/11
You want easy voice/chat mixing with the DSS??? Get an AIMON HP.  Still end up cheaper than a mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:01 PM - 12/30/11
The DSS2 has an aux input.  They say its for an mp3 player, but there's no reason why you couldn't run a cable from a headset buddy to it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 07:26 PM - 12/30/11
I was thinking the same thing.  If it has separate volume control then u essentially have mixing.

Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 07:31 PM - 12/30/11
I didnt see a seperate volume control im pretty sure theyre assuming youll just adjust the volume on your tb headset. anybody review the aimon yet? Still I have bigger plans but unfortunately procrastinating bigtime.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:03 PM - 12/30/11
man its super hard to get some decent pictures of it
i search for dss2 on google  but99,9% of the pictures are dss1 lol

id like to know if theres any soundstage increasement, although it seems like it still cannot mix chatsound hence ill stay with my mixamp

(its not just mixing the sound but also overall compability, mixamp lets me hear 3 sources at once of any input, the dss only 2 with limited input sources
dss + aimon or spectrum aint a solution for me)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 09:17 PM - 12/30/11
You want easy voice/chat mixing with the DSS??? Get an AIMON HP.  Still end up cheaper than a mixamp.

Tuffrabbit, do you now if it works or works well with the DSS.  I have been waiting to get the AImon Hp and the antilion mod mic, but I haven't found anything that says the DSS and Aimon HP work well together.  But it should I guess?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 05:55 PM - 12/31/11
It should work fine.  The AIMON HP also boasts and much better frequency response range compared to the mixamp... so you shouldn't loose audio quality.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 02:09 AM - 01/01/12
So how would you hook it up in your rig?
Xbox > Aimon > DSS > your head?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: turboRush on 03:42 AM - 01/01/12
turtle beach x12s work amazing.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:03 PM - 01/01/12
So how would you hook it up in your rig?
Xbox > Aimon > DSS > your head?

         xbox ---- dss \\\
                                 connect each other --- headset --- your head
controller --- aimon ///
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Sleepy on 02:52 PM - 01/01/12
Nice find on the Aimon HP, I just ordered one through Amazon and already have the DSS, so I hope it all works out well.

You can save about $11 going through 7summitz.com but it's not calculating the free shipping right for me, and they deal directly with Amazon so I just went through there.

Here's the Amazon link for anyone looking.
http://www.amazon.com/Aimon-HMA-1-Headphone-Amplifier-PC-Console/dp/B0067FMDAW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325451099&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 03:18 PM - 01/01/12
Sleepy,
That's awesome man.  I hope it works out great. Let us know how it works out with the DSS.  I was looking at 7summitz too, but I guess I would still go through amazon. when I eventually decide to purchase it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: simplicity05 on 08:38 AM - 01/02/12
So how would you hook it up in your rig?
Xbox > Aimon > DSS > your head?

         xbox ---- dss \\\
                                 connect each other --- headset --- your head
controller --- aimon ///

So where you connect the outputs for the dss and the aimon, would that basically be a Y cable at that point?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:11 AM - 01/02/12
the dss has output-plug where the headset goes into

with that plug, the aimon is connected (into aimon input)
not sure what inputs the aimon can read, but its probably a jack - jack or jack - 2 cinch or whatever cable to connect the two

then connect the aimon with the controller and you are done
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:47 AM - 01/02/12
Looks like AIMON HP takes optical, 3.5mm TRS, and Red/White RCA as inputs.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Sleepy on 05:03 PM - 01/05/12
My Aimon HD came in today. I do like it as a stand alone unit, but trying to use it with the DSS, I'm not really liking it.

To try and use them together and as 5.1 you have to hook up the DSS first then run it through the Aimon and I had some sound quality issues.  If you try using the Aimon first then DSS you lose the 5.1 and have to change a setting in the audio settings to Digital Stereo.

I'd say if you want microphone and headphone options with game/chat mix then the Aimon HD works great.

But trying to mix the Aimon through the DSS don't work to my liking.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:13 PM - 01/05/12
Dss then aimon shoild work ok in theory does the dss have any other audio out option?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:24 PM - 01/05/12
Hmmm, So even the steelseries audio mixer is better. darn!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Sleepy on 09:00 PM - 01/05/12
Dss then aimon shoild work ok in theory does the dss have any other audio out option?
It does work this way.
Optical OUT from xbox > To optical IN to DSS > Headphone out from DSS > To RCA IN on the Aimon was the only way it worked. And by doing this the audio quality seemed muffled and just all around crappy. Aimon by itself is nice but you still won't get the 5.1 surround and game/chat mixing like people want.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 09:07 PM - 01/05/12
I was under the impression that the dss had an optical out aswell for some reason. I am sorely mistaken it is tb.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: awdterror on 11:43 AM - 01/06/12
I'm looking at the Turtle Beach XP500 as they are completely wireless with the bluetooth adapter. Is this the only way to go completely wireless with NO CHAT CABLE?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:46 AM - 01/06/12
Other way to go 100% wireless would be to go with the wireless Astro Mixamp and tape it to the headphone.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 09:29 PM - 01/06/12
Astro Satellite has connection to the Controller but surely would look sexy. :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 08:07 PM - 01/07/12
Hey, will this work in being able to use your own headphone and custom mic, or is it just for pc headsets?

I was thinking maybe it can be used with the DSS to of course enable chat/volume mixing.

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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:05 AM - 01/08/12
it doesnt say anything about 5.1 decoding, and you surely would use that as an advertise point
so i guess its a stereo amp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 01:00 PM - 01/08/12
Yes, I do know its just stereo, but I was wondering if this might work with the DSS as a solution.   I'm thinking it may atleast solve the problem where when people use a microphone and it's too quiet that this would help in bossting the volume.  Plus these things are super cheap. I'll send an email to see.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:46 PM - 01/08/12
the stuff with less electic noise sounds nice, cuase thats what makes the steelseries spectrum unusable for some people

nevertheless you wont know until your or someone else buys this and gives a review
as for me, ill stay with my mixamp and the @#$% sound :)
party chat goes over soundstage for me
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:24 PM - 01/08/12
Sent Xjacker a long email.

Od1n, is the mixamp really that @#$% compared to the DSS. It's just when I read the Shin CZ guide, this guy goes off on how awesome his gaming experience is with the Astro mixamp and all these stereophile headphones.  Mine in particular got an 8/10...Koss Ksc75.  Then akaTrent on youtube did a review of the DSS and obviously prefers the Astro mixamp, even tritton.  I guess mainly b/c he was using it with the px21.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:36 PM - 01/08/12
well the dss clearly gives the better audio, lots of people tested it with an oszilloscope and that results dont lie
any other source that says different is just a personal oppinion, nothing based on the real data

as for me, yes the dss sounds better, more natural and you also hear a bit more stuff
like birds or grass in the wind, minor stuff you havent heard before
also you hear someone about a meter earlier than with the mixamp of far distances
but that requires a really quiet surrounding, you barely benefit from it at all

but as i said, the mixamp instead perfectly mixes chat and gamesound like no other device so far
(except that creative recon decoder or how its called, but you can only mix through the pc, not in real time)



btw my guess why the mixamp doesnt sound as good:
theres a mixer inbuilt/chained, and as you already experienced with the aimon and steelseries, whenever theres a new element to the chain the sound gets slightly weaker
i guess the mixamp would sound the same as the dss without its mixer function
so unless you dont buy one of those super expensive external dj mixers you dss sound will get weaker for sure
which actually will sound equal if not the same to the mixamp then
just more wires and more devices

thats why i stay with the mixamp lol
(assuming i am right)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 09:23 PM - 01/08/12
Good theory...so really the only way is with one of those desktop mixers that rabbit uses. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 09:31 PM - 01/08/12
There is no solution for perfect sound AND mixing on the Xbox and there never will. Its not only some sounds the Mixamp just swallows but it also gives up on deep frequencies. Play the Crysis 2 intro movie with a Mixamp and you think your tape is damaged in your first gen Sony Walkman.

On your PC just pop in this card and all your dreams come true. (Xonar Essence). I really hope they do something on the sound side of the next Box especially chat.

(http://ii.alatest.com/product/full/7/b/Asus-Xonar-Essence-STX-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nick7 on 10:22 PM - 01/08/12
I bought an Aimon HP mixer and a SteelSeries Siberia v2 headset. Couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:27 PM - 01/08/12
That’s nice then, just never try the HQ Stuff mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:22 PM - 01/09/12
lol roads, month ago i made the same suggestion, at that time you bawled me out for saying such a thing well knowing that it was for console gamers
reasons where stuff like dont have a pc next to me, dont want to put one next to me, destroys the picture of my living room,...
and now you come up with the very same?
come on lol

also there are better cards out there for mixing, that one is good for a standalone pc but thats it
asus still should focus more on software lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:29 PM - 01/09/12
Yeah times change, I think I just realized I was emulating a PC with my XBox. Setup is exactly the same the box is just a bit larger.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jumpman21 on 04:34 PM - 01/09/12
Hoping to pick up ATH M50's along with a mixamp pretty soon. Sound stage isnt as large as AD700's because M50's are closed vs. the AD700's being open. But I will be using these for music, movies and gaming and the M50's seem like the best all around headphones that have enough bass substance for my music.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 04:51 PM - 01/09/12
I would suggest looking into the dt 880's (open)or d2000 (closed)from what you are describing.  Yes both cost more than the m50s but for good reasons =].  The bass they provide is great for music/immersion.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 05:11 PM - 01/09/12
For those using the Astro, is there any way to lower microphone volume short of having a microphone with in-line volume control?  Most people tell me that my mic is incredibly loud.  On the PS3, you can adjust voice output volume, but I need a solution for the Xbox if there is one. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 05:16 PM - 01/09/12
I just put the mic near the headband as opposed to near my face since my friends have the same problem lol.

To test it do this...
--->create message
--->pick any friend
--->voice message
--->record & play to see =)

& ->DON'T send it lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:26 PM - 01/09/12
Yeah times change, I think I just realized I was emulating a PC with my XBox. Setup is exactly the same the box is just a bit larger.

So are you saying that you can use one of these sound cards thats on your pc to be the sound processor and mixer for you xbox? 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:15 PM - 01/09/12
No Prof, I sold my Xbox, I am just telling you guys, if you have a PC and also play on that also, get the Xonar STX for great sound. It is not mixing your Xbox sound/chat. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: jumpman21 on 11:45 PM - 01/09/12
I would suggest looking into the dt 880's (open)or d2000 (closed)from what you are describing.  Yes both cost more than the m50s but for good reasons =].  The bass they provide is great for music/immersion.


Thanks for the suggestions but those are out of my price range for now. Hopefully one day when I'm a practicing Podiatrist I'll be able to blow money on headphones :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:56 PM - 01/10/12
Yeah times change, I think I just realized I was emulating a PC with my XBox. Setup is exactly the same the box is just a bit larger.

So are you saying that you can use one of these sound cards thats on your pc to be the sound processor and mixer for you xbox? 

yes you can do that, but thats a rather expensive solution
also there are only a few cards that can do this, you need to audio ins, one optical and another one for the mic
most soundcards only read one audio in at a time, trust me, such a card costs about the same/more as your current headphone gear + dss


personally id say just deal with it, new xbox comes out in a year or so, who knows how its handled then
your expensive investion might be useless then
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nyarlathotep on 07:05 PM - 01/11/12
Quote
Hoping to pick up ATH M50's along with a mixamp pretty soon.

I use those as studio monitors. To me, they don't work well for gaming because

a. The closed-back design makes it difficult to hear myself speak (unless I feed my mic output into my mixer).

b. The bass is way too much for gaming. My recording producer friend would probably argue that it is too much for music, too. Of course, that's a matter of personal taste.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 07:43 PM - 01/11/12
Bass is overrated... Only time its really good is when you can feel it and that doesnt happen in headphones.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:37 AM - 01/12/12
amak trust me my dt770 definitely lets me feel the bass, makes my head shaking quite a bit when a house comes down next to me in bf3 :)

but i guess its one of the headphones with the most intense bass out there, so yes you have a point there ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:33 PM - 01/12/12
 yes im sure those dts are beautiful and have plentiful bass response. Theyd better for the price. Lolz
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: smajin on 03:33 PM - 01/12/12
Ordered a DSS2 now I just need some headphones.  I read through about half this thread before I gave up but it seemed like the JVC HARX700 is one of the best inexpensive solutions?  Any other standouts I missed in the under $100 range?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BulletSponge151 on 04:05 PM - 01/12/12
my x41 turtles shake my head also when BF3 is going sounds like i am inside Saving Private Ryan movie  ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:43 PM - 01/12/12
Ordered a DSS2 now I just need some headphones.  I read through about half this thread before I gave up but it seemed like the JVC HARX700 is one of the best inexpensive solutions?  Any other standouts I missed in the under $100 range?

sounds good, im sure youll like it :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 05:33 PM - 01/12/12
Koss KSC75 - Over the ear
Shure SRH240 - Closed
AKG K99 - Semi-open
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 05:56 PM - 01/12/12
No headset is going to make the floor shake fyi this was my point. actually a lot of music mixes have a steep high pass filter starting about 60hz just bc a lpt of speakers have trouble reproducing waves that large.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:09 AM - 01/13/12
Ordered a DSS2
Where did you order the DSS2?  I've been keeping my eye on the Turtle Beach page and it's been showing unavailable till Jan 16th.  I haven't seen anywhere else that's selling it.

p.s.  I'm not even a Xim owner (yet?), but I stumbled upon this thread looking for headset info.  This single thread is really the best source for console sound information that I've come across.  Thanks for all the great insight everyone.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:02 AM - 01/13/12
so you ve read the whole 43 pages?
lol nice work
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: turboRush on 09:04 AM - 01/13/12
Ordered a DSS2
Where did you order the DSS2?  I've been keeping my eye on the Turtle Beach page and it's been showing unavailable till Jan 16th.  I haven't seen anywhere else that's selling it.

p.s.  I'm not even a Xim owner (yet?), but I stumbled upon this thread looking for headset info.  This single thread is really the best source for console sound information that I've come across.  Thanks for all the great insight everyone.

Same i'm looking to get the DSS 2 for my X12's but it's not in stock until the 16th, wonder where he got his? hmm.. ::)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:06 AM - 01/13/12
probably ebay, you can buy quite a lot of stuff before official release on ebay
or if the stuff is sold out anywhere
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: smajin on 09:34 AM - 01/13/12
I ordered it from here:

http://store.turtlebeach.com/earforceDSS2.aspx

I see on their main site it does say out of stock so maybe I won't be getting it for awhile?  I got an Order Confirmation that says they'll send me the tracking number when it ships so we'll see when that happens.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 12:06 PM - 01/13/12
@#$%,DSS2 have no voice mixing :(
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:33 PM - 01/13/12
DSS2 does have a stereo analog AUX input though.  You could run the chat cable to that.  If you added a cheap headphone amp you would have voice mixing.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: turboRush on 01:12 PM - 01/13/12
So in your opinion would the DSS 2 be worth it with my X12 turtle beach headset?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:21 PM - 01/13/12
Yes, just as long as your realize you are not making optimal use of the DSS output.  TB X12's are on the same quality level as Skullcandy... which doesn't say a lot.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: smajin on 06:32 PM - 01/13/12
I ordered it from here:

http://store.turtlebeach.com/earforceDSS2.aspx

I see on their main site it does say out of stock so maybe I won't be getting it for awhile?  I got an Order Confirmation that says they'll send me the tracking number when it ships so we'll see when that happens.

Just to update this I got my tracking number for the DSS2 today (day after I ordered), seems like they are shipping.  Not sure why they have them marked as out of stock on the main site?

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: NY Dynasty on 12:25 AM - 01/14/12
I love my TB dx11 from best buy, great DSS dolby 7.1 sound, great fit, mic n are very durable, all for $110...dont play BC2 or BF3 w/o them...

http://porkchopplatoon.com/2011/09/13/review-turtle-beach-dx11/

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1251178/turtle-beach-best-buy-exclusive-ear-force-dx11-headset-for-xbox-360-reviews/reviews.htm
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 05:39 AM - 01/14/12
DSS2 does have a stereo analog AUX input though.  You could run the chat cable to that.  If you added a cheap headphone amp you would have voice mixing.

Are you absolutely sure about that? DSS1 has 3.5 stereo in, but as soon as the optical cable was connected, it closed the 3.5 analog stereo input. So it couldnt mix 2 inputs.

It would be surprising if the DSS2 actually could do it. Isnt the AUX input meant for a second listening device, like second headspeakers?

Does anyone have the DSS2 already and can confirm it can playback 2 inputs at the same time (optical + auxiliary analog)?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:03 AM - 01/14/12
yeah can please someone verify this?

other note:
if its still not possible, where on earth is the difference between dss1 and 2 then :P
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:06 AM - 01/14/12
yeah can please someone verify this?

other note:
if its still not possible, where on earth is the difference between dss1 and 2 then :P

More $$¢€¥£₣₱ from people with upgradeitis
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 10:17 AM - 01/14/12
looks like tuff was correct, turtle biatch has quite a good support in terms of - they reply to many questions on YT.

So it looks like DSS2 can output 2 channels simultaneously (optical digital in + AUX stereo) now for AUX  stereo you cant change the volume (I think). But it shouldnt be a problem to use a very cheap Amp for chat mix. Like 10-20 dollar amp. At the end still better quality than Mixamp, because the game sound stays unchanged and is crystal clear. Only the chat will suck a little bit, while on the Mixamp everything sux- chat + game sound.

Heres the info:

Quote
I bought the dss, (not the dss2) but I am wondering if you can listen to music and game at the same time.... doent eem to work...

Does the dss2 let you do this or is there a way with mine?

MyOwnDecoy 1 week ago

Quote
@MyOwnDecoy You cannot do this with the DSS. You CAN do it with the DSS2.

TurtleBeachVideos 1 week ago


Quote
What's the difference between this and the DSS2 processor?

HarrisonPayne 1 week ago

Quote
@HarrisonPayne DSS2 has equalizer presets and variable speaker angles.

TurtleBeachVideos 6 days ago


Quote
Is this not virtual surround sound? With the lack of speakers to differentiate the difference from rear to front, there is no difference? Is this not simply converting surround sound to stereo?

DJPixcell 1 week ago

Quote
@DJPixcell Multiple speakers is NOT the best way to do surround sound. You only have two ears. You're technically ALWAYS "hearing stereo." Dolby Headphone Technology decodes sound cues the same way your brain does. This is real surround sound.

TurtleBeachVideos 1 week ago

Nevermind the last answer, imo its only partially correct.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:31 AM - 01/14/12
hmm makes me thinking of getting a dss2 and a small amp now, eg the headphone amp from fiio that tuff mentioned in a different topic
chain it between the dss and the controller mic port and mix the chat volume that way
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: smajin on 11:13 AM - 01/14/12
hmm makes me thinking of getting a dss2 and a small amp now, eg the headphone amp from fiio that tuff mentioned in a different topic
chain it between the dss and the controller mic port and mix the chat volume that way

Is this the one?  http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Headphone-Amplifier-Micca-Cable/dp/B005JT8OT6/ref=zg_bs_13880161_3

I can test it out when the DSS2 arrives.
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 12:13 PM - 01/14/12
hmm makes me thinking of getting a dss2 and a small amp now, eg the headphone amp from fiio that tuff mentioned in a different topic
chain it between the dss and the controller mic port and mix the chat volume that way

Is this the one?  http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Headphone-Amplifier-Micca-Cable/dp/B005JT8OT6/ref=zg_bs_13880161_3

I can test it out when the DSS2 arrives.

Fiio amps are great for the price. I own an e7. I'd use something cheaper for chat vol control though as it's crap quality already, koss vc20 maybe
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:37 PM - 01/14/12
I don't see why this can't work.  That Fio headphone amp was like $7.00.  Worth the risk IMO.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 12:46 PM - 01/14/12
hmm makes me thinking of getting a dss2 and a small amp now, eg the headphone amp from fiio that tuff mentioned in a different topic
chain it between the dss and the controller mic port and mix the chat volume that way



Is this the one?  http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Headphone-Amplifier-Micca-Cable/dp/B005JT8OT6/ref=zg_bs_13880161_3

I can test it out when the DSS2 arrives.

the e6 is ok if you use in-ears ...
but for headsets and headphones i would use a fiio e9 or fiio e9i ...

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E9i-Desktop-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B004QVMFXE/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326566452&sr=1-10


if your headset have 80ohm or less you can also use a fiio e7.
but for 100 ohm and more i would definitly use a e9..

i have the e9i and the e7..
with my 250ohm beyer headphones and the e7 the volume isn't much louder than without the amp.
with e9i the sound quality and the volume was greate :)
sry for my english ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:50 PM - 01/14/12
This one: http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E3-BK-E3-Headphone-Amp/dp/B001MPWMDA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1326566954&sr=8-3

@Silent: This amp is just for the chat/voice signal.  Doesn't need to be of any quality, just needs some power.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 12:55 PM - 01/14/12
ahh ok.. i understand..
sry i have missunderstand his question....
but this a good idea.. have you test this?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:59 PM - 01/14/12
I've not tested this... so there is some risk that it won't work.  I have great confidence that it will work, based on the product description.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 01:10 PM - 01/14/12
I don't think the e3 has volume control , might be wrong
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:08 PM - 01/14/12
It doesn't.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 07:53 PM - 01/14/12
Hope someone who bought a DSS2 will end up testing this out.  Might be the answer to all our prayers.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: smajin on 09:06 PM - 01/14/12
Hope someone who bought a DSS2 will end up testing this out.  Might be the answer to all our prayers.

My DSS2 is supposed to come on Tuesday, gonna grab one of the Fiio amps (prob the E6) and I'll let you guys know how it works out.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 09:13 PM - 01/14/12
Hope someone who bought a DSS2 will end up testing this out.  Might be the answer to all our prayers.

My DSS2 is supposed to come on Tuesday, gonna grab one of the Fiio amps (prob the E6) and I'll let you guys know how it works out.
Sweet smajin, E6 is definately a better choice, has a volume knob too, thx.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 01:28 PM - 01/15/12
I asked earlier about a way to lower the microphone volume using the Mixamp.  This is probably a retarded question, but would it be possible to pass my microphone through something like the E6 before hitting the Mixamp so that I could adjust the microphone volume downward this way?  In other words, I'd have my microphone hooked up to the E6 input and then a cable running from the E6 output into the Mixamp microphone jack.  Would that even work?
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 01:54 PM - 01/15/12
I asked earlier about a way to lower the microphone volume using the Mixamp.  This is probably a retarded question, but would it be possible to pass my microphone through something like the E6 before hitting the Mixamp so that I could adjust the microphone volume downward this way?  In other words, I'd have my microphone hooked up to the E6 input and then a cable running from the E6 output into the Mixamp microphone jack.  Would that even work?

Search Amazon for koss vc20, I can picture that working.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: eXcero on 03:20 PM - 01/15/12
Thanks, I'll give that a shot.  I found at least one review suggesting that it works with mics, so I'll report my results here when I get it Tuesday. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:12 PM - 01/15/12
Problem with mixing in the chat voice is always the controller crappyness. Adjusting the outcoming chatsound means adding it to the headset with some nasty  noise production.
Whats good in amplifying the mic input? Friends complaining you are to loud?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 06:29 PM - 01/16/12
How would this be different than using a x41 or dx11 that uses a chat cable where you adjust the volume and is plugged into the 360 controller.  Chat sound is pretty clear.

Are you sayng the amplifier would amplify the mic input and not the output?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Petinho on 07:50 AM - 01/17/12
what are the Tritton headsets like.... been looking at this one which is out soon

http://www.trittonusa.com/prod/devastator.asp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:32 AM - 01/17/12
The problem roads is talking about is signal fouling.  At least in passive mixing circuits, you always have the potential of one signal negatively influencing the other.  There is nothing to do buffering, impedance matching, or noise reduction.  Active circuits CAN be different, depends on the design.  We are all hoping the DSS2 has a half decent mixing circuit inside.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:39 PM - 01/17/12
what are the Tritton headsets like.... been looking at this one which is out soon

http://www.trittonusa.com/prod/devastator.asp

a bunch of crap that is, made for teenagers to feel pro
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:51 PM - 01/17/12
Toys likes em but hes no teen :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:12 PM - 01/17/12
sure people maye like them and still its a mayor rip off ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 01:18 PM - 01/17/12
A box from Turtle Beach just arrived:

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7028/photojan1715529pm.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/photojan1715529pm.jpg/)

I've been running my HPX's through the Mixamp Pro, looking forward to seeing for myself what everyone is raving about with the DSS.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: murdo on 01:29 PM - 01/17/12
Had the ax720's and took them back. Mic went belly up after about 2 weeks.

Paid a wee bit more and got the TB px5's and have to say I'm lovin  them so far.   Also have TB dss just to compare but the px5 won due to cusomisation options-
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: cturnbull802 on 01:56 PM - 01/17/12
i had a set of AD900s and the right driver developed a clicking sound, i sent them back i dont know if i will order another pair or not. the 3d sound they gave with the mix amp was amazing, but the lack of bass when listening to anything but gaming made them boring.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:54 PM - 01/17/12
you dont buy a ad900 for movies or so, its a plain gaming headphone
it really shines there as bass is something you dont want when figuring opponents position

in addition to that, the mixamp reduces the bass to a minimum gives you even less bass ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SecondSight on 04:21 PM - 01/17/12
A box from Turtle Beach just arrived:

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7028/photojan1715529pm.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/photojan1715529pm.jpg/)

I've been running my HPX's through the Mixamp Pro, looking forward to seeing for myself what everyone is raving about with the DSS.

I got my DSS today aswell. Still waiting for my pc360 but so far its working well.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 05:41 AM - 01/18/12
you dont buy a ad900 for movies or so, its a plain gaming headphone
it really shines there as bass is something you dont want when figuring opponents position

Hmm AD900 costs 215 usd. I think thats too expensive for gaming only. Then there is no reason to buy AD900 at all.

I can understand the AD700 beeing only good for gaming (which it is), cause its price is 90-100 usd.

For 215 bucks I would add 30-40 dollars to it and buy a Beyer DT 880 or a Senn HD600. Both of them are 5x better than AD900 for both gaming and music/movies. I didnt have an AD900 to try, but from what I understand its only a little bit better than AD700 which I had and compared to HD600/650/DT 880.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:07 AM - 01/18/12
well i overacted a bit lol, but still its best suited for gaming imo :)
(did try them in an audio shop once against some other headphones)

and yeah for the same money you should probably go with a different headphone
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:24 AM - 01/18/12
I got my DSS today aswell. Still waiting for my pc360 but so far its working well.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you planning on getting voice from your PC360's using the DSS?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:26 AM - 01/18/12
xbox button --- options --- audio --- play "through speakers" or "play through both"
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 01:46 PM - 01/18/12
I got my DSS today aswell. Still waiting for my pc360 but so far its working well.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you planning on getting voice from your PC360's using the DSS?

To use the PC360 mic you will need a 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter or the headset buddy for xbox.  I never got an adapter to actually work so I got the headset buddy, but others on this forum have said that an adapter would work.

You can also buy a steelseries mixer that would allow mixing (and not require the adapater or headset buddy). 

Without mixer you will need to ouput the chat "Speakers" in the preferences tab under "Voice"
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:16 AM - 01/19/12
Cool, I knew people used the Steel Series Spectrum and similar products but didn't know about the headset buddy.  Thanks.


Here's a question.  I have a broken Astro USB Mixamp.  It only outputs sound to the left earcup and static noise to the right.

I now have a DSS.  I'm wondering if I would be able to use my DSS for sound, but use my Mixamp for my mic.

Right now I have a Turtle Beach HPX headset that has two adapters:  a mixamp compatible 3.5mm adapter and then the standard red/green 3.5mm PC adapter.  I was hoping that I could just plug the red 3.5mm plug into the headset-in on the mixamp, and then connect the mixamp to he controller, and plug the green 3.5mm plug into the sound-out on the DSS.  But when I try this the mixamp doesn't pick up my voice.

Long term I'm going to get into some real audiophile headphones, but any idea if I could use the DSS and Mixamp in tandem with my HPX headset?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Sandman482 on 07:25 AM - 01/19/12
I've had X11's, Tritton AX720's, and Astro A40's.

In my opinion that A40's are the best, X11's don't really compete at all but are good if you're on a budget.

If you're a super sound whore you can tune the 720's pretty good for directional sound, but it changes with every game. They also don't really have a lot of 'boom' to them, almost sounds like the TV, just in surround version. They're also overall a big mess to initially set up, and tuning them is confusing and not fun at all.

The Astros aren't full surround, but you can easily pick up directional sounds. They're also super comfortable and adjustable, the sound quality is awesome, there's tons of options (Change mic sides for example), and the mixamp gives you plenty of options for hooking up to things. I can play CoD through optical and have the USB plugged into my laptop and hear my laptop audio at the same time. Never have to switch between. Lots of stuff compared to basic X11's and similar headsets, but if you're not a caveman it's fundamentally easy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: cturnbull802 on 11:44 AM - 01/19/12
you dont buy a ad900 for movies or so, its a plain gaming headphone
it really shines there as bass is something you dont want when figuring opponents position

Hmm AD900 costs 215 usd. I think thats too expensive for gaming only. Then there is no reason to buy AD900 at all.

I can understand the AD700 beeing only good for gaming (which it is), cause its price is 90-100 usd.

For 215 bucks I would add 30-40 dollars to it and buy a Beyer DT 880 or a Senn HD600. Both of them are 5x better than AD900 for both gaming and music/movies. I didnt have an AD900 to try, but from what I understand its only a little bit better than AD700 which I had and compared to HD600/650/DT 880.

agreed, i sent them back and went with the DT990. 
i am not really an "audiophile" but i like things to sound good. not sure if that makes much sense. The added bass boost that the dt990 provides over the DT880 (300+ on amazon) will be to my liking, that and the DT990 32 ohm is 219 on amazon right now. they should be here tomorrow.  i had a $200 dollar gift card to use up at amazon.

ninja edit: since i sent the ad900s back for the defective driver, i have been using an old set of bose triports and they are straight junk. with the AD900s on hardhat i could pinpoint what floor people were on just by there footsteps. with the bose i can just hear someone walking leaving me wondering where they are. i hope the DT900s are close to the ad900 in sound stage, or i might be returning these and starting the buying process over.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:47 PM - 01/19/12
give us a comparison once you tested them :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 01:14 PM - 01/19/12
I have X41s and while they are great, I have to turn up the sound on the really loud to hear exactly where people are coming from. Maybe my hearing is just bad, but does anyone else need to do this or is it just what I have to expect from TB?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:17 PM - 01/19/12
That's standard TB crap.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SecondSight on 03:07 PM - 01/19/12
Thats why I sold my TB x41 and got the dss and pc360. The pc360's should be here tomorrow so I will let you guys know how they are compared to the x41's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: g0retekz on 07:12 PM - 01/19/12
I finally got my astro a40 and mix amp this past weekend and played with them until today when my ad700s came in and @#$% what a difference

Since my ad700 are brand new and I don't wanna void the warranty just yet I rigged my Triton ax pro mic and its been working perfect!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/4c17986c-bf4e-aa52.jpg)

Don't mind the cell phone pic but I wanted to show people alternatives to permantly Modding them although I will be doing that soon


I have had just about every Xbox headset.

X31
X11
X41
X11 with dss
X12 with dss
ax 720
Ax pro
Ear force delta analog surround with axpro decoder box
Ect

Here's a pic to give you an idea of what sets I  have kept

(http://img.tapatalk.com/4c17986c-c32c-2ef2.jpg)

And so far this is my favorite setup

Only thing holding me back from buying a dss2 is being able to adjust voice volume without going into preferences BC everyone I play with has different volume voice and its a pita to keep adjusting via menu
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BARBARIAN-X on 11:33 PM - 01/19/12
Only thing holding me back from buying a dss2 is being able to adjust voice volume without going into preferences BC everyone I play with has different volume voice and its a pita to keep adjusting via menu

That's why I have a MixAmp for online and a DSS for singleplayer. Chat volume and EQ in a DSS would be a nice al in one solution. I'm still going to get a DSS2 but it would of been nice to have everything in one.

I have to say that I'm pretty happy with my modded HD558. I really wanted to get the HD598 but I couldn't get over the fact that it looks like a big flesh colored dildo laying on your head. After burning in my HD558 I have no regrets.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:50 PM - 01/19/12
(http://img.tapatalk.com/4c17986c-c32c-2ef2.jpg)

OMG for the price of those crappy gaming headsets you could have bought a perfect Sennheiser HD650. Go and mod that 700AD or make someone mod it. looks like crap with those cables and I bet its side heavy also. This is how they have to look like:

https://plus.google.com/photos/105260319829322659756/albums/5561492107567769473?banner=pwa

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IiLCKH2vFhM/TS-mTyt0NLI/AAAAAAAADBs/kmh4M2EUXvo/w353-h264-k/IMG_0269.JPG)

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: g0retekz on 05:46 AM - 01/20/12
oh I will definitely be Modding them after burn in. Just want to make sure I don't have a defective ad700.

I passed those other "gaming headsets" down to the wife and kids and they are happy with them so its not a total loss ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:02 PM - 01/20/12
Nice cans guys!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:27 PM - 01/20/12
Just so you guys know... I'm in the middle of a very interesting email conversation with Warren from XJACKER.  I'll fill everybody in when we be finished.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:01 PM - 01/20/12
That is a site with naked girls, right?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:04 PM - 01/20/12
http://www.xjacker.com/

Nope... just a dude with glasses and a helmet.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Kal El Agent47 on 02:01 PM - 01/20/12
I have yet to scour thru pages after pages but I've got an X41 for 2 solid years! My only nitpick about it is the audible hissing sound esp prominent when idle at the dashboard. I'm thinking of replacing itn soon.

How about the Warhead 7.1 by Madcatz? It's already running on 5.8GHz! 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BARBARIAN-X on 04:51 PM - 01/20/12
I have yet to scour thru pages after pages but I've got an X41 for 2 solid years! My only nitpick about it is the audible hissing sound esp prominent when idle at the dashboard. I'm thinking of replacing itn soon.

How about the Warhead 7.1 by Madcatz? It's already running on 5.8GHz!

This is the short list IMHO;
K701 K702
HD598 HD595 HD558 HD555 PC360
AD700 AD900
DT990

DSS DSS2
MixAmp Pro MixAmp 5.8
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Kal El Agent47 on 04:59 PM - 01/20/12
thanks for the short list mate!

So no love for the Warhead, huh? I may have to wait for any real-world review before i pull the trigger!  ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:10 PM - 01/20/12
Just so you guys know... I'm in the middle of a very interesting email conversation with Warren from XJACKER.  I'll fill everybody in when we be finished.
I had an email chat with Xjacker too, about possibly using it with the DSS, he said the same thing that Od1n said about double amping in a chain is bad. This was before I knew about the DSS 2 and the 2 channel capability.  Maybe the xjacker might serve as something good to get to go along with the DSS2.  Im sure sure you are much better at asking the cetain types of questions than I am.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:32 PM - 01/20/12
thanks for the short list mate!

So no love for the Warhead, huh? I may have to wait for any real-world review before i pull the trigger!  ;D

its a very bad headset for the money you pay
it would be fine if it costs the half of the price, but thats not the case
also 5.8 is fine for the moment, but in a few month/years anything will go 5.8 and then you get some problems

you are better off with one of the headphones from that list
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SecondSight on 05:45 PM - 01/20/12
How would I go about burning in my new headset? Just play white noise for hours?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:14 PM - 01/20/12
yes, some music and stuff
run it straight for a few days and you are fine

or dont burn then in and they probably are ready after a week of gaming or several weeks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SecondSight on 03:01 AM - 01/21/12
Okay, I will just leave some white noise on when I go out for football. Should give it a good 7 hours.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:43 AM - 01/21/12
100-200h is what you should burn in if i remember correctly
about several days till a week

also just let it play your music folder in a playlist, that guarantees different tunes from time to time
playing just one static tune isnt really a good idea
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:35 AM - 01/21/12
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mondays.gif?w=270)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 02:33 AM - 01/22/12
my 250ohm beyer headset is for sale now...

http://xmarket.tk/ads/beyerdynamic-dt770-pro-250-ohm-with-pushpull-and-mic-mod/

here the album with more detailphotos
https://plus.google.com/photos/105094110646792926292/albums/5671464671356056961
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 11:06 AM - 01/22/12
Hi guys, new to this board.  I'm coming from turtle beaches x11 with the dss.  I'm looking to upgrade to the AD700's, the closed version, these will be just for gaming.  Just to make sure I have all my info correct, I will use the dss with the 700s, looking at the AtLion for the mic, & the steel series for chat mixing. My ? is will I be able to hear myself in the headphones chatting with the listed setup?  Also, are the closed versions the same specs as the open versions? Obviously just being closed backs.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:09 AM - 01/22/12
Why you want closed backs?  You will have a bigger soundstage with open cans.

No, you will not be able to hear yourself (talkback) with this setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:15 AM - 01/22/12
Closed ones are great if you have a baby/kid/hysteric wife in that order.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 11:57 AM - 01/22/12
I want the closed backs cause ihave my sons wii setup & I let him play with his ds in the same room.  What will let me get that hearing myself talk functionality?  The mixamp? Or something else?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:24 PM - 01/22/12
the mixamp does that, on teh creative recon you can activate it via pc i think
not sure about the dss though, never really had a need for such a function
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 05:52 PM - 01/24/12
Any news yet on whether the DSS 2 and Fiio amp work together for in-game chat volume adjusting?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:43 AM - 01/25/12
Mixamp does not allow to hear yourself , no side-tone. Some TBs are the only ones I know of.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:05 PM - 01/25/12
it does

you can even customize it through pc when connecting it via usb (voice feedback option in its audio settings)
default is 25% or 30% replay of your actual mic voice input
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:35 PM - 01/25/12
You are right, i just checked, not a real sidetone that is usable for closed headsets but it should prevent shouting. Never noticed its there though. A plus for the Mixamp, pitty they @#$% up the soundstage.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:16 PM - 01/26/12
Real alternative to the Beyers and Sennheisers. With the Iphone cable it should fit the Mixamp (4pin) with a mic integrated and without for the DSS/DSS2. A very good non-custom in-ear for the price of 89€ incl. shipping in Germany.

http://www.earphonesolutions.com/shure-se215-review.html

(http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-94024159501758/215ear1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:52 PM - 01/26/12
how do you like it roads?
sound quality and bass eg?

you re saying its a real alternative, makes me a bit excited lol
im really not a lot into inears, thats why i ask
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:54 PM - 01/26/12
I will compare them to my 770 Beyers soon, dunno yet.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:57 PM - 01/26/12
First glance made me wonder if that was your actual ear roads.  Then my smarts got the better of me.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:09 PM - 01/26/12
:D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: SILENT TRIGGER on 01:24 PM - 01/26/12
if i would use in-ears i think i need custom mades, because my ears not standard size... ^^

(http://www.megagb.com/upload/11c75328.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:31 PM - 01/26/12
Sure has a good rep in the audio industry.... Most of it coming from being extremely durable products. Sound quality is also very good though but I have no experience with these in ears but id assume theyd be pretty good. Look cool though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 05:31 AM - 01/27/12
Unboxed the Shure 215 and tried the Sure on some mp3 and they sound very good. It’s a different Experience than listening to a regular headset but similar to the Beyer 770 pro.Bass is fine and high tones are not driving crazy. Do I need better sound from inears? No, not for the Mp3 Stuff, games and movies I am listening. Custom fitted in ears maybe yes. They do fit well but isolation for sure is better for customs when the head moves a lot. The shure are still nice to wear I just feel the urge for something that fits me anatomically.
Very very good first pair of in ears. Keeping them and Love them already.

Sooo its this I am going for and I ask myself if I can do this myself
http://averysound.com/as.shure.html

(http://www.pilotstuff.com/media/averysound/ShureSE530B.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 06:10 AM - 01/27/12
Didnt like inears. With inears you hear yourself breathing, plus everytime the cable touches something. And I found it not very hygienical putting that thing halfway inside your ear. Inears skyrocket bacterias inside the ear and hurt the ear after a while if they dont fit perfectly.

So not recommendable IMO. Inears also cant compete with the sound of audiophile cans.

Inears are very sensitive to smallest volume changes. So last thing you want is having a 12 yo scrub scream in his uber loud microphone when youre playing online. With headphones the effect is not as devastating as with inears, although still annoying.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 06:16 AM - 01/27/12
Sure, did not test it with games yet. Breathing yes, cables, not with the Shure.

Interestingly breathing is not heard all the time. Bacteria, you have to clean them regularly as well as your ears. its nothing else than a hearing aid.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 06:28 AM - 01/27/12
Inears do have their strenghts, f. e. if you want to isolate the environment sounds, u dont need to turn the music very loud, because of how good the inears isolate. Also if you dont want any sound to leak out.

But imo they have more disadvantages. One would be having to clean them (desinfecting) every time before using, because of how deep they go into the ear. I used to do it too, I tried inears for gaming some time ago, it didnt work out that well. Also over long period of time the ear starts hurting if the inears dont fit perfectly, the custom-fit inears are quite expensive. Another thing- hearing yourself breathing / or touching the cable on some inears. And finally very sensitive to small volume changes, basically good for music- because the volume level doesnt vary that much. In movies or games- the explosions usually are waay louder than the rest of the sounds. Also kids with loud mics like to scream around or have annoyingly loud Mic hissing on their 5.99 Dollar headset.

If one doesnt want to damage his ears, Id suggest using headphones at average volume level.

By the way you dont have to clean your ears regularly. Doctors dont recommend using Qtips for cleaning your ears, I used to do it alot. The ear basically keeps itself clean by eleminating stuff out. Only thing they recommended was using ear spray now and then- thats it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 06:51 AM - 01/27/12
You dont need to desinfect each time just clean them regularly and sure if you are using them a lot then an ENT should check you from time to time. No need to be hypochondric.
Other advantages are watching movie and lying on pillow is possible, people dont look at you in the bus when you have your Beyers on. :) I wonder how they work on a DSS with the Xbox. Cant test that :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 07:19 AM - 01/27/12
Id use Sennheisers PX100/200 for travelling by bus etc. Or koss porta pro and alike ;)

I wonder if there are really good audiophile wireless headphones (not headset).
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:37 PM - 01/27/12
Please tell me ypu guys are not testing audio quality with mp3s.. Or you just said mp3 and meant something else. Audio quality is terrible in mp3 I can spot the watery highs from a mile away. Yea inears have their own set of problems I never liked em much but for someone looking to get a huge headset off their heads they could be a solution.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:45 PM - 01/27/12
I am not testing lossless stuff as I am not using it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 12:51 PM - 01/27/12
3 of 5 courtesy of Fischer Audio (Russian).  I do have a couple of IEM's coming in just to play with but the 2 are about $20 each & giving them to my brother & sister later lol.

This my portable for walking around/college use.  Old Skool RPM 33 1/3 (164ohm closed supra-aural) with Zo 2.3(Amp) & Zune.

(http://www.head-fi.org/image/id/2341280/width/900/height/600/flags/LL) (http://www.head-fi.org/image/id/2340996/width/900/height/600/flags/LL)

Gaming-wise for best positional.  I use the HPA2(open multi-driver) + Extigy (true 5.1).  I have the dss + ad700 as well but this is hands down the best for positional audio.  I can control the volume for front/rear/center(chat)/bass(none)

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab10/ViperLt5639/HPA2TB.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CMF4ZCDHL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

For the gym & running outside I use the FA-004 (closed circumaural).

(http://fischeraudio.ru/im/models/master/004.jpg)

Now my favorite for music @ home listening & game immersion for single-player the FA-011 (open circumaural).  It uses the same housing (shape) as the HPA2 but that's pretty much where it stops.  It has a v-shaped frequency however the mids are anything but recessed.  Clear treble, liquid mids, & tight/low bass.  Great soundstage, instrument separation & depth.

(http://fischeraudio.ru/im/models/master/fa-011.jpg)


Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:54 PM - 01/27/12
had the HPA2 here, a friend has it
sounded like crap against my dt 770 pro :S
also my own headphone gave me a much better positioning, was able to hear someone several meters before i could hear him with the HPA2
actually by looking at the picture showing the small drivers you can see that its just another turtle beach crap
at no point several small drivers will match one huge one


the extigy is a nice piece, but super hard to get
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:59 PM - 01/27/12
I've heard the same for those who used the HPA2.  If you aren't using it with the extigy it's pointless lol.  SQ-wise not the best but for positional my preference vs ad700/dss

Volume set-up

Center 4-7

Front 5-7

Rear 7-10

*Bass 0
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:04 PM - 01/27/12
sadly creative no longer sells that card :(
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 04:13 PM - 01/27/12
sadly creative no longer sells that card :(

Definitely a shame and so happy I'll be using it with the future next-gens lol.  I was lucky with my extigy being in the US and the ebay seller was only selling it because his new laptop wouldn't work with it.  The ones sold on ebay @ the moment are much more expensive than the one I got lol.  Did you get to use your HPA2 with it?

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 04:31 PM - 01/27/12
I was thinking about purchasing the Turtle Beach DX12 that is sold exclusively at Best Buy.  It comes with the X12 and the DSS2.  I figure that way, when I need to absolutely chat with someone I 'll just use the x12 headset and when I don't need too I'll use my KOSS KSC-75 headphones and DSS2.  Love the sound of those with my DSS1.  I'm thinking the x12's will be better than the headset of my x41's because it's a newer model, the earcup pieces are bigger, and the unit has 50mm drivers.

I'm still wondering about whether I can use a Fiio e6 amp from amazon and use that with the DSS 2 to get voice mixing like the Astro Mixamp. Does anybody know if that avenue works yet?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 06:17 AM - 01/28/12
Anyone want Extigy to buy?
I can sell it for 120 euro+ship :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 12:51 PM - 01/28/12
R u guys using extigy with xbox???
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:07 PM - 01/28/12
I was thinking about purchasing the Turtle Beach DX12 that is sold exclusively at Best Buy.  It comes with the X12 and the DSS2.  I figure that way, when I need to absolutely chat with someone I 'll just use the x12 headset and when I don't need too I'll use my KOSS KSC-75 headphones and DSS2.  Love the sound of those with my DSS1.  I'm thinking the x12's will be better than the headset of my x41's because it's a newer model, the earcup pieces are bigger, and the unit has 50mm drivers.

I'm still wondering about whether I can use a Fiio e6 amp from amazon and use that with the DSS 2 to get voice mixing like the Astro Mixamp. Does anybody know if that avenue works yet?

I just sold my DSS, gonna get a DSS2:)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gh3tto on 02:16 PM - 01/28/12
For gaming headset one headset i would not recommen is the   astro's and there mixamp. I mean when it works it's a great product. They have a tendanccy to @#$% out alot of parts that are diffective and there customer is horrible. Support tickets take about a week to get answered and you only get like a 5 word answer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:04 PM - 01/28/12
R u guys using extigy with xbox???

I sure am & plan to use it in future consoles as long as optical is available lol.  It also has a feature similar to Dolby Headphone when I want to use a regular headphone/headset via 3.5 jack in the front.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 05:15 PM - 01/28/12
Can you guys give me suggestions on closed headphones for xbox gaming - around $250 price range.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 09:29 PM - 01/28/12
If it had to be closed....Denon's D2000.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:11 PM - 01/28/12
Ok, I sold my DSS and will buy a DSS 2 w/ x12 at best buy.  However, I want to test out the Aux Input on the DSS 2 to see if possible one can adjust both chat and game volume levels.  How on earth would I go by connecting everything.

I will have an Antlion mod mic, which has one 3.5mm male end.

Then I will have either a Fiio E6 or Koss V20 headphone amp.

I'm thinking I need a Headset buddy that has a mic -in and headset out.

My Koss Ksc-75 headphones.

I'm thinking, connect the headset buddy to the xbox 360 wired controller.  Then connect the Antlion mod mic into the "mic-in" on the headset buddy.
Next, From the "Headset out" on the Headset buddy, run a line to the Headphone amp and then from there run it to the Auxilary input on the DSS2.  Then of course plug my headphone w/ Mod mic attached into the output on the DSS 2. Is that about right?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:39 AM - 01/29/12
Hi there,

Currently got a Tritton ax pro headset, after reading half of this thread i'm ready for an upgrade.

First thought about a set of astro a40's but not i'm thinking the following

1. TB DSS
2. Sennheiser 555, 595 or 598
3. Labtec Clearvoice LVA-7330 Boom Microphone

I gather i will also need the Steelseries audionmixer??? Is there anything else required and more importantly, which of the three headphones above would be the best????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:46 AM - 01/29/12
leave out the steelseries mixer for the moment
if you dont like the chatsound with that setup you can still buy it ;)

other than that a good choice over the a40


@ professor:
i think it should work, but i dont have a dss2 to say something reliable
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:48 AM - 01/29/12
So will it still sound gd without the mixer???

Out of the 3 headphones which will give me the best sound, especially directional????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:54 AM - 01/29/12
best sound the hd598, but also the most expensive

yes youll still be able to hear the chatsound, all that you are missing is the live chatmixing
(you have to mix through xbox button - audio - chatsound which takes a bit of time)

also you cannot exceed over a certain chatsound volume
so if you find it too quiet you can still go with the mixer

or try the same as professor, i find his idea really nice and am looking forward to what he finds out ;)
(cause this would be much better than the mixer then)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 11:21 AM - 01/29/12
I don't mind going with the most expensive IF it's a noticeable difference for the extra cash???? If it's only marginal over one of the cheaper ones then i'd go for them.

I see theres also the hd 558????

So the hd 555, hd 558, hd 595 and the hd 598 best bamg for buck and all round performance????

What idea has professor had????

Thanks

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 12:20 PM - 01/29/12
I would at minimum go with a Turtle beach DX12 bundle (Dss2 and x12).  It comes with a DSS version 2, whcih actually has more power than the regular DSS, so it would be better to drive those Sennheisers.  Plus, the X12's are the latest model headset w/ 50 mm drivers.  Someone on here was going to test whether the DSS 2  if combined with a headphone amp would alow us to get live chat mixing, since the the DSS 2 has an Auxilary Input, which bypasses any amplification or processing of the DSS 2.  This way we can use any high end headphone and custom mic ( labtec or Antlion) and use the DSS 2 whcih has the beter sound over the Astro mix amp (comes with live chat mixing).  In theory we know it should work, but not for certain.  It will take some time before I get everything. (week or 2) to test out.  The Steel series mixer works but many people say it produces an audible hissing noise. 

I sent an email to Turtle beach, if they share anything relevant, I will post.

In the end, if it doesn't work, I'll just use the X12's for when I absolutely must chat and then go back to my regular headphones when I don't.  Thats why Im going to get the Dx 12 bundle.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 12:32 PM - 01/29/12
So the normal DSS won't be able to power the sennheisers????

If i was to buy the bundle i'd end up having a set of tb headsets not being used????

Dave
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:46 PM - 01/29/12
dss has enough  power for eg a 598

also you can buy it alone, you dont need to buy the dss bundle with the turtle beach headset
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 01:03 PM - 01/29/12
Being from the uk i don't think i can get the dss2 as yet, i gather the dss is ample though????

So, out of the 4 sennheisers, which set would give the best bang for buck????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 05:28 AM - 01/30/12
Just another thing i was thinking about, when using a normal set of headphones and a mic people talk about the chat volume, could we not just use an inline volume control like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-to-1-3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-Adaptor-Volume-Control-BLACK-/190423406802?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Headphones&hash=item2c561e98d2

So mic cable into above adaptor then into one of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-mm-2-5mm-3-5-3-5mm-JACK-MINI-HEADPHONE-ADAPTOR-/260923398048?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Headphones&hash=item3cc03f17a0

Then plug it all into the controller, wouldn't that then give adjustment on game chat, if in the settings it's set to max then wouldn't this allow people to turn the in-game chat down if their friends say their mic is too load, it'll mean being able to do it on the fly instead of experimenting????

Or am i wide of the mark with regards to the issues with game chat????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:23 AM - 01/30/12
nah man you are absolutly right

the problem might be that this adapter is cheaply built, the experience showed that those create some annyoing background sounds when connected to the controller

thats the reason why professor is trying a fiio amp, which does the same as your adapter just with more quality


well your adapter doesnt cost a lot so i do not see a reason for why you shouldnt give it a try :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 01:08 PM - 01/30/12
Has anyone confirmed if the DSS can play 2 audio sources at the same time ie game sound via optical in and music via analogue????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:27 PM - 01/30/12
Nope.  Nobody has confirmed it yet.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 01:41 PM - 01/30/12
As you have one, could you try it?????

I think i may of found something interesting

http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-cross-platform-audiomixer#pictures

Would this work????

Headphones and mic into one end, 2.5mm chat cable from that mixer into the controller and the usb to the usb passthrough on the dss for power and the 3.5mm into the headphone jack on the dss????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:36 PM - 01/30/12
I only have the original DSS.  It does not mix.  One of the guys who just bought the DSS2 will have to chime in.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:39 PM - 01/30/12
That SteelSeries Crossplatform Mixer looks great.  Only two possible issues:  Will it hiss like the Spectrum?  Will it degrade the quality of the DSS?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 03:11 PM - 01/30/12
I might email them to see if it carries whichever sound signal with no degrading. If they say it doesn't degrade i'm willing to purchase one to try it out for everyone.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:20 PM - 01/30/12
Just make sure you get it somewhere that gives full refunds on open box items... like Amazon.  If you end up sending it back you will get all of your money back and they cover the return shipping.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 03:30 PM - 01/30/12
How do you get Amazon to cover the return shipping?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:48 PM - 01/30/12
You have to buy an item that is either sold by Amazon or fulfilled by Amazon.  If you want to return just go to your account area, find the order, and then choose return this item.  They give you shipping label to print.  Easy peesy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 06:47 PM - 01/30/12
just yet another question, if I was to grab a pair of hd 650's would they be better for gaming over the hd 598's? would the tb dss power them?, if not what would I need, a fiio?? and if I needed one of those would that help with the game chat issue or? ...........noob alert.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 06:55 PM - 01/30/12
Testing one of the IEMS I just received.  It is surprisingly good with CMSS (Similar to Dolby Headphone) via my extigy.

Best part is it was only $25 shipping included + I like the sound signature it possess for music.  Initially sibilant I've given it some time to burn-in while changing the tips to foam ones similar to comply.

Thermaltake ISURUS

http://www.youtube.com/v/47Mxe_A2C-8&hd=1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 07:47 PM - 01/30/12
I emailed Turtle beach. a guy named Josh there said this about the DSS2 , Auxilary Input and headphone amp:

"I dont think that would work in that setup. You would also need an adapter since the Microsoft chat connection on the controller is a 2.5 mm port and not 3.5 mm."

I don't think alot of these places no what there talking about.  Only guy I ever talked to that was knowledgeable was from Xjacker.  There system, from everything I 've read and heard works flawlessly including XBL chat.  NOw, they don't use the live chat mix functioning, they use the xbox guide button > options route.  I know that route works on the DSS, but not always optimal, heres what the guy there told me:

ME: Currently, I am using a pair of Koss Ksc-75 headphones witha Turtle Beach Earforce 5.1 DSS.  Great unit, but there is no way to control the in-game chat volume, the onlyway to get chat is to use an xbox live headset around your neck or a modded micand go into your xbox 360 settings>preferences and change the game soundlevels there.

Xjacker: Okay, in the interests of full disclosure I've gotta cut in right here.  Our Soniq Rush also does NOT have separate volume and chat controls.


ME: This works somewhat,butsome games you can barely hear anything even set at max.

Xjacker: Oddly enough, this has not really been a problem for us (as we've learned from our customers).  Please let me explain.

Conventional gaming amps have a rather low gain.  We surmise that this is so because their engineers never envisioned driving anything other than low-impedance headsets.  So here's what happens . . . you turn chat all the way down and game audio all the way up, only to find that game audio is consistently overshadowed by incoming chat right?  If this is what you're experiencing, its a fairly common issue.

By contrast, our amplifier circuit started out in life as a near-audiophile-quality headphone amp (as least it would be if we matched components).  And we designed it to drive cans in excess of 150-ohms of impedance (a.k.a. Sennheisers). What our customers have told us is that they will turn chat down and turn game volume up (or vice versa depending on the game) - and then amp the resulting mix (in Xbox preferences as you pointed out earlier) so as to hear everything.  And because our amp is capable of driving the overall mix with decent levels and fidelity, it comes through as being far more balanced overall.  I know it sounds a bit counter-intuitive and somewhat illogical - but I have to trust that our customers aren't lying to us.

While we agree that the DSS is an excellent unit, it seem like in this case, the amp within it is simply not outputting the "juice" you require. I don't know what the gain on their amp is, but the specifications point out that the output is only 35mW/channel.  By contrast, our output is over 100mW/channel.

-End

I looked up the specs on the DSS1 (35 mw per channel.

The DSS2 specs show  output @ (90 mw @16ohms).

Is that really not good, since alot of the higher end headphones use much higher ohms.  I guess that would mean less mw if say my headphones where 50 ohms.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:12 PM - 01/30/12
As you have one, could you try it?????

I think i may of found something interesting

http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-cross-platform-audiomixer#pictures

Would this work????

Headphones and mic into one end, 2.5mm chat cable from that mixer into the controller and the usb to the usb passthrough on the dss for power and the 3.5mm into the headphone jack on the dss????

Dave.

That cross platform mixer looks awesome.  Only $39.99.  This would be too much for me to try out.

Going through my stash  I found one of those cheap x360 adaptors you can buy for $3.00 that has mic in and headset out.  SO I don't need a headset buddy.

Also, I have an Audio Technica lavalier microphone that I will use as the mic. 

The only thing extra I need to buy is the Fiio E6 amp.

Once I get my ebay money received from selling my precious DSS, I'm off to Best buy to pick up a DX12 bundle.  I also have a Best buy gift card that takes a huge chunk out, so it's not that bad to me.  They don't sell DSS 2's by themselves.  My other alternative was to just buy a DSS2 online and get a new logitech g400 or Deathadder w/ my gift card :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 03:59 AM - 01/31/12
If the general thoughts are that the steelseries cross platform audiomixer would be ideal and would solve the problem of the game chat then i'm willing to give it a go when i have all the bits for my gaming audio, i don't mind being the guinea pig if it helps others.

Anybody care to comment on my thoughts about the Sennheiser hd 650's????

Dave.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:04 AM - 01/31/12
650s? They are perfect expensive and open. If you have the money and your environment tolerates the noise, buy them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Biggage on 04:37 AM - 01/31/12
I've owned three headsets in my gaming "career". One being the Tritton Ax Pro's and the others being the Turtle Beach X1's and X11's.

The best for me is my X11's. I just couldn't tell directional sound very well with the 5.1 Trittons. I gave it a week before returning them. They had great quality and bass but it just wasn't cutting it. I'd rather be able to hear directions better than clarity. I think knowing where a shot or a reload comes from gets me much more kills than just hearing loud bass.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 04:55 AM - 01/31/12
650s? They are perfect expensive and open. If you have the money and your environment tolerates the noise, buy them.

Hi there,

Would they be a big upgrade overall to a set of hd 598's????

What would i need to drive them if used with a dss????

Thanks

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:22 AM - 01/31/12
Has anyone confirmed if the DSS can play 2 audio sources at the same time ie game sound via optical in and music via analogue????
I can confirm that the DSS2 can play two audio sources at the same time.  This morning I had the 360 connected to the optical input for game audio, and had my iPhone connected to the AUX input.  I was able to hear both the game audio and music.  I could adjust the volume of the game sound via the DSS2 and adjust the music volume on the iPhone to mix the two.

I just realized now that you said analog input, not AUX though.  I'm assuming you meant AUX?  There are both an analog input and an axillary input.  I believe that the analog input is disabled if the optical input is plugged in.

I should be receiving a FiiO E7 in the mail today so I could help test whatever you guys need if I have the correct cables to do it.  I can't imagine people throwing down the money for a FiiO amp just for chat mixing though.  That's like buying a car to get a radio.  Or am I missing something and you're thinking of using the FiiO both to power headphones and for chat mixin somehow?  This thread preaches getting the most for your money, FiiO for chat mixing seems opposite that, no?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 08:08 AM - 01/31/12
Hey,

It was the original DSS i was talking about ref the 2 audio sources at once, so yeah it's analogue-in as it doesn't have an AUX-in.

Thanks for confirming the DSS2 does both at the same time though, just means i'm stuffed due to me not being able to get it in the U.K

I need someone willing to help me get one over i think for a reasonable price, rather have the DSS2 so i can run the game chat from a x360 splitter on the controller to the AUX-in so i can control the volume of my friends voices independantly from the game audio via maybe a simple in-line volume control ie mixing.

It's a shame they didn't put a small volume toggle switch for the AUX-in, like they did on the original DSS for the analogue-in.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:31 AM - 01/31/12
spinal... if you can't get a DSS2 then just get the SteelSeries Crossplatform mixer.  Like I said just be sure you get it from a merchant that gives full refunds on open box returns (like Amazon).  That way if you hate it or it doesn't work well you can send it all back you haven't lost anything.  If you like it and it works well then just keep it.  Either way you're golden.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 08:46 AM - 01/31/12
Funnily enough i've just found an online retailer that has the dss2 listed, i rang them and they confirm it is indeed the dss2.

Now, it's £79.95 delivered and they offer a 30 days money back option too.

I can get the original dss for £40 delivered but the steelseries cross platform audiomixer i found for you guys is also £40.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:24 AM - 01/31/12
You already have an original DSS right?  If you think you can sell your DSS and get your money back from it then do that and get the DSS2.  If you can't sell your DSS then get the SteelSeries product.  Always better to have what you want in one unit, but that may not be possible for you in this case.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 09:32 AM - 01/31/12
No no, i have neither one yet. Until today my only option was to get the dss, now i've found i can get the dss2 from a retailer, so the choice is dss for £40 or the dss2 for £80, money isn't really the issue i'd just rather have the better product and the cleaner solution.

Can anyone help with regards to driving a pair of hd 650's, i'm either going to get the hd 598's OR the hd 650's coz i have the opportunity to pick up a set pre owned.

Does anyone know what the max ohms headphones the dss2 can drive????

If i was to add a fiio headphone amp will it definately not degrade the sound quality, surround sound processing and freq range of the dss2????

All the best,

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:36 AM - 01/31/12
Then just go with the DSS2.

roads already said that the 650's are great.  If you can get them for less than market price then you should.  I dunno if the DSS2 can drive them though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:43 AM - 01/31/12
hg 650 definitely needs an amp, it has 300 ohm

id say you get a good volume with the dss till 100 ohm or slightly higher
also buying a hd 650 solely for gameing is a real waste, it makes only sense if you plan to use it for movies or music as well (or better said mainly)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 09:49 AM - 01/31/12
Well i would use them for music and movies, but the main use would be gaming, bout 90% of the time.

So maybe it'll be better to stick to the hd 598's???? Especially as i won't need an extra amp, assuming the dss2 would drive them ok (50ohms) And these hd 598's are still going to be great for music and movies?

Thanks guys,

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:56 AM - 01/31/12
exactly

see the xbox soundcard aint the greatest, actually its pretty bad
when you connect a hd598 or a hd650 you wont hear much of a difference

whereas when using the two with a good receiver and music you do hear a difference

so theres no real reason for spending more money when its mainly in use for gaming
also the hd598 is by all means a excellent headphone, really!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:05 AM - 01/31/12
Thanks buddy,

So the (almost) final list is:

1. Sennheiser HD 598
2. Dss2
3. Labtec Clearvoice LVA-7330 Boom Microphone

For the game chat, maybes are :

1. x360 adaptor
2. Some sort of 3.5mm in-line volume control

MUST DO: Get rid of my Tritton AxPro's Lol.

That sound like a good setup to you guys?

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:10 AM - 01/31/12
this setup is better than 95% of what the community is using i guess ;)

one last word
do yourself a favour and also play games other than mw3
its sound is a bit meh compared to bf3 sound for example ;)

anyways youll be surprised of what background sounds you havent heard so far :)
also the positioning range becomes a bit wider
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:14 AM - 01/31/12
Yeah i've read a few people commenting on the sound in mw3.

Well i've already purchased the mic from the U.S i'm just waiting for it to arrive.

Just ordered the Dss2.

Now, onto the Mrs for the Sennheisers, birthday coming up!!!!

Cheers for all your help guys.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 10:21 AM - 01/31/12
Tritton AxPro's > TB X41?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 10:24 AM - 01/31/12
I could tell a noticable difference in bass presence on the HD598 compared to HD650. Also the weapons sounded somwhat warped on the 598, thats why Ive sent them back.

No need to worry about the volume, the DSS and DSS2 both can fire up a HD650 loud enough for your room neighbours to hear it.

Id highly recommend a HD600, maybe used ones which will be about the same price as new 598s. I can locate players on HD600/650 more precisely than HD598. Also HD600 have same drivers as 650s, having only very small differences of driver housing etc.

However 598s stay one of the best choises atm.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:29 AM - 01/31/12
Get ready for gaming eargasisms spinal.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 10:33 AM - 01/31/12
Thanks buddy,

So the (almost) final list is:

1. Sennheiser HD 598
2. Dss2
3. Labtec Clearvoice LVA-7330 Boom Microphone

For the game chat, maybes are :

1. x360 adaptor
2. Some sort of 3.5mm in-line volume control

How do you want to wear that Labtec headset? On top of HD598s? Or on the neck? I used to wear exact same Labtec on the neck, but its not really comfy. Ill make a headphones --> headset mod instead.

But you might try something like that instead labtec headset (which is not worth the 20 dollars tbh).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microphone-Mic-Notebook-PC-Laptop-Desktop-Computer-/320823312896?pt=PCA_Speakers&hash=item4ab28f4200
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:42 AM - 01/31/12
I was going to cut off the headband on the Labtec like others have done.

One question i had about fixing it to the Sennheisers, most people use velcro but i'd rather not risk residue issues at a later date.........is it possible to use self adhesive 3m magnetic tape on the back of the Labtec so they are "magnetised" to the Sennheisers grills or would that have any effect on the drivers inside the headphones???? I gather the grills are metal and not aluminium????

Just seems a cleaner option to me, would the magnetic tape be ok to use?

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:45 AM - 01/31/12
Get ready for gaming eargasisms spinal.

Thanks Rab,

I thought the Trittons were a massive upgrade from external speakers to be honest, can't wait to hear the difference with the new custom setup.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 10:47 AM - 01/31/12
Has anyone confirmed if the DSS can play 2 audio sources at the same time ie game sound via optical in and music via analogue????
I can confirm that the DSS2 can play two audio sources at the same time.  This morning I had the 360 connected to the optical input for game audio, and had my iPhone connected to the AUX input.  I was able to hear both the game audio and music.  I could adjust the volume of the game sound via the DSS2 and adjust the music volume on the iPhone to mix the two.

I just realized now that you said analog input, not AUX though.  I'm assuming you meant AUX?  There are both an analog input and an axillary input.  I believe that the analog input is disabled if the optical input is plugged in.

I should be receiving a FiiO E7 in the mail today so I could help test whatever you guys need if I have the correct cables to do it.  I can't imagine people throwing down the money for a FiiO amp just for chat mixing though.  That's like buying a car to get a radio.  Or am I missing something and you're thinking of using the FiiO both to power headphones and for chat mixin somehow?  This thread preaches getting the most for your money, FiiO for chat mixing seems opposite that, no?

Fiio e7 is great, but that is like $80.  We were mentioning the e6, which is $28 or the Koss V20 for about $8.00. 

DOn't forget you need a X360 adapter which costs $4.00 shipped or a Pc Headset Buddy which is around $12.00.  Radioshack might have something that is identical to the Headset buddy.

Basically they both hook up to the 2.5 mm jack and have 1 3.5mm female input for the mic and a 3.5 mm female output for the line running to the AMP>DSS>headphones.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 11:11 AM - 01/31/12
If anybody owns a DSS2 now, how is the sound.  If you own or have owned the DSS 1 let us know how it compares.


I've been reading some stuff online saying the DSS 1 is better than the DSS 2 for theses stated reasons:

1.) The DSS 1 has printed on it 7.1/5.1 and the DSS 2 has nothing on it just Dolby Surround.  The worry is that it has lesser surround sound.

2.) The DSS 2 is not as good thats why it is $10 less than a DSS 1 brand new.

3.) The DSS 2 has EQ setting that let you only adjust 4 speakers so its more like 4.1 sound.

The rationale I've read against it.

1.) Turtle beach has produced more units and is trying to sell more thus lowering the cost by $10.00

2.) xbox 360 and ps3 don't support 7.1 so the 7.1's two extrz channels are virtual and not important.

3.) The 5.1 is better than 7.1 anyhow because 7.1 produces too much simulated surround which makes the sound feel more like a smoothly distributed sound rather than the pinpointness of 5.1

4.) To me  Dolby Surround whether or not it says 5.1 or not is always going to be 5.1 regardless.  If it says Dolby stereo, then it's 2 channels.  If it says Dolby Pro-logic then it's 2 channels, but with 4 channels total (matrix).  Or Dolby Pro-logic IIx which to me is the 6.1 or 7.1 channel virtual matrix of 5.1.

5.) I've seen some posts of people saying they like the DSS2 more. Mainly because of the EQ settings.

 It might even cost more money for Turtle beach to print 5.1/7.1 labels on there product, similar how it costs companies to print THX on there product.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 11:29 AM - 01/31/12
if u care about crap like that, you should just get a tritton or tb " all in one bundle" and play with it.

most of the stuff is crap.

dss2 doesnt support 7.1 because almost no game natively supports that, and it doesnt give that much advantage over 5.1, dss2 however does support 5.1

4 channels angle modifiable, prolly because the center is allways in front of you? And the subwoofer channel is allways the same too? So theres only sense modifying the angle of front left+ right and rear left+right..?

dont listen to 12 yo kids, who think they know sh¡t because they own a 30 dollar turtle beach headset. dss2 is clearly a step above dss1, they removed unneeded features and put in most requested stuff like mixing 2 channels. Or to be precise mixing 1 main channel and throughputting a second (AUX) channel, which keeps the sound quality optimal. If dss2 could mix 2 channels, sq would be prolly as bad as Mixamp. By using external amp for (AUX) it should deliver great results.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 01:51 PM - 01/31/12
Tritton AxPro's > TB X41?

Why you guys ignore me?  :'(
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Post by: tuffrabit on 01:56 PM - 01/31/12
Tritton AxPro's > TB X41?

Why you guys ignore me?  :'(

We don't know buddy.  Based off of the description I would say the x41's are better.  Just because they are not a multi-driver per ear headset.  That "true 5.1 multi-driver" is just a marketing gimmick.  Even though the x41's are TB crap I would choose them over the AxPro's if those were my only options.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ZioComposite on 02:20 PM - 01/31/12
I don't have the ax pro but I guess something similar to it.  I'm using the HPA2 which has multiple drivers.  The difference is I'm using a soundblaster extigy with it.  Being able to control the volume for front/rear/center(chat)/sub(put to 0) makes a big difference in positioning & I prefer it over the dss/ad700 I used previously for.  If I want immersion then I use my FA-011's <3. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 02:26 PM - 01/31/12
Ahh gotcha, tuff, I assume that you've tried  pretty much everything.

I like my X41s but I think I'll eventually upgrade. I have to turn it up way too high to figure out where people are coming from.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:38 PM - 01/31/12
I've tried AxPro's and X11's.  I've not owned a lot of different headsets and headphones, but I've borrowed a lot from friends and such.  I'm definitely not an audiophile either.  The difference between something Tritton or TB puts out and an actual half decent pair of headphones paired with a good source is just that extreme.  I've had a few people try to get me to buy a pair of Beats... I just laugh.  I had one guy bring his pair over to my house.  We did a side by side comparison of his Beats and my modded ($35) JVC 700's with a FLAC source.  His jaw dropped.  It dropped even further when he tried my Koss KSC75's.  He then proceed to cry when I told what I spent on all of it (that's an exaggeration).  All that to say that it just shows how much CRAP a company can get away with selling with the right marketing behind it.  Those JVC headphones should cost a lot more then they do, I'm under the impression that JVC isn't fully aware of what they've created.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 03:12 PM - 01/31/12
i've had several people recommend me the dt770 pro 80 cause i'm looking for closed cans.  after doing some research, it seems it might be a bit on the bassy side for fps's,  so i started to see if i could find the 32 ohm consumer version and came across this - www.north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/studio-and-stage/studio-headphones/dt-770-pro-le-32-ohm.html (http://www.north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/studio-and-stage/studio-headphones/dt-770-pro-le-32-ohm.html)   i emailed beyer about them & the guy replied back saying they are coming out this march for $229.00.  he said they're same as the other pros, just at 32 ohms now, & less emphasis on the bass.  i guess basically they're those mmx300's without the mic?  i think i might wait for these.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:28 PM - 01/31/12
That is interesting as I talked to a technician at Beyerdynamic a year ago and the low Ohm MMX300 has much more bass than the 770-pro. The technitian described it as wood-chopper. So good luck with those!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:43 AM - 02/01/12
as roads said mmx300s are made to chop down trees with just their bass waves

i have a dt 770 pro as well and i dont really have a problem with the bass
eg the dss lets you adjust the bass level

its better to have the ability for bass than having none by default lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 08:55 AM - 02/01/12
Hey odin, how are the directional positioning in the 770's?  I already have the dss.  Are they good for fps's once you turn some of the bass down?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 12:10 PM - 02/01/12
Try going here, that gives a breakdown comparison off all the major headphones for gaming.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphones-for-gaming-guide-all-testing-done-with-dolby-headphone
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:41 PM - 02/01/12
Hey odin, how are the directional positioning in the 770's?  I already have the dss.  Are they good for fps's once you turn some of the bass down?

i have several high quality headphones and as for me the dt 770 gives me the best tracking as its closed
somehow i tend to hear the more quiet sounds (eg footsteps) much better with closed cans

3d positioning in general aint better as with open ones, you can pretty much pinpoint a opponents steps or shots
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: wang_bang31 on 01:01 PM - 02/01/12
Alright guys, I've been trying my hardest to keep up with this awesome thread but my audio newb brain can't handle it anymore lol.

Could one of you bottom line it for me?

I have $200 dollars to spend on a xbox headset. What are 3 of my best choices?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:38 PM - 02/01/12
Is mixing chat with the game sound a game breaker for you?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 02:01 PM - 02/01/12
Rab, are those Koss headphones better than your jvc's????

Are they worth picking up as i can get both really cheap.

Still getting my hd 598's though.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:11 PM - 02/01/12
If you are getting those 598's don't bother with the JVC's.

Koss KSC75 pros:


cons:


I end up playing better when I use the Koss headphones over the JVC's.  The JVC's are just much more comfortable and immersive, so they are my primary gaming headphone.  I think everybody who uses Dolby Headphone should have a pair of Koss KSC75's laying around as backups or as their portable headphone.  They are just too inexpensive to not buy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Professor5180 on 02:48 PM - 02/01/12
I agree with everything said.  I have owned the JVC HArx 700 and currently use the Koss Ksc 75.  Once you wear the Koss and fell how light it is and experience the sound you get from it there is no turning back!  The JVC's are great too, just really big and bulky and does not have the silhouette style of the KOSS.  JVC's do have bass, if they had any more they would be bass heavy.  The Koss has bass, but not the "I feel noshish" kind.  It actually is nice for when you hear those bomb drops from the sky, you hear it, and experience it, but not to a point where it makes you cringe.  This factor allows you to increase the volume even more.

The Earclips you get use to I guess, there might be a little soreness around the ear. Still alot more comfortable than the pain I got from using the X41's.  MAJOR Ear Cramps!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:54 PM - 02/01/12
Those JVC's are crazy good for the price though.  A part of me laughs hysterically on the inside whenever I put them on.  One of my favorite things is getting people who are used to iPhone/iPod ear buds to try them... I call them headphone virgins.  The look of utter "OMG" on their face is so priceless.  I remember when I let my wife use them to watch a DVD on the XBOX.  She was nursing our 4 week old son staring at the screen with this look of incredulity for the entire film.  I'm pretty sure she "borrows" them while I'm at work.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:01 AM - 02/02/12
Anyone know of any good deals for the sennheiser hd 598 in the U.K by any chance????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: turboRush on 02:30 PM - 02/02/12
Im surprised noone makes like a mixamp or dss type solution with an in line eq. Thats what I would buy.

DSS2 has an inline EQ.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:32 PM - 02/02/12
amak1 is talking about a big boy's EQ.  I'm sure what the DSS2 offers you is better than nothing though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:58 PM - 02/02/12
amak1 is talking about a big boy's EQ.  I'm sure what the DSS2 offers you is better than nothing though.

Yep preferrably some variation of a parametric eq. Where I can notch primary frequencies in footsteps and give them a nice boost without touching the other frequencies. My new notebook has just arrived though... In two weeks gonna get some version of protools and an interface... Mixer will be here soon after so imma set up my xbox audio pretty sick.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:45 AM - 02/03/12
Yep preferrably some variation of a parametric eq. Where I can notch primary frequencies in footsteps and give them a nice boost without touching the other frequencies.
This thread has already taken my interest in game sound to the next level.  I look forward to following you guys to new frontiers of sound-whoring.  I'm imagining a 31-band equalizer sitting on my floor as I'm playing MW3.  CAN'T WAIT!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:05 PM - 02/03/12
Wow you guys can get a very cheap inear headset for your Mixamps. Check this and read some reviews. 4 pin with mic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875996107

Tuff can you send me one?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:46 PM - 02/03/12
You sure you want me to have your mailing address?

lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:54 PM - 02/03/12
:D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Jetzki on 09:33 PM - 02/05/12
If we go... console > laptop > headset
is there a program we can run on the laptop to eq the sound before it comes out of the headset? would've thought by now someone would've found a way to boost footsteps via their computer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 09:59 PM - 02/05/12
you can do it in almost any audio editing program but it just seems more trouble than its worth. Bring it in on a stereo pair then throw an eq on the master.... Or im sure there are standalone parametric eqs out there. for me I got the xim3 not to be tethered to my pc.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:04 AM - 02/06/12
If we go... console > laptop > headset
is there a program we can run on the laptop to eq the sound before it comes out of the headset? would've thought by now someone would've found a way to boost footsteps via their computer.
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the creative recon amp does this

but its not very usefull, it boosts the frequency in which footsteps usually are send, so anything in that range gets louder

you cannot boost footsteps alone as you would need to extract the soundfile for this and manipulate it
and thats cheating lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 09:36 AM - 02/06/12
the creative recon amp does this

but its not very usefull, it boosts the frequency in which footsteps usually are send, so anything in that range gets louder
Interesting, I never looked into the Recon3D until now.  Are you talking about the built-in 'Scout Mode' that is supposed to increase footstep volume, or are you talking about the built-in equalizer via the software?

It looks like it has a 10-band equalizer you can set by hooking it up to your PC.  I know that by increasing the range which includes the footstep sound you'll also be increasing other game sounds, but the question is do those louder footsteps still give you the advantage.  I could live with other crashes in-game being louder if it meant even louder footsteps.

amak1, it sounds like you already have some experience with equalizers and footsteps?  Is a 10-band equalizer granular enough to get the job done?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 09:51 AM - 02/06/12
DSS2 Update:
I was a happy Astro Mixamp owner til I started reading his thread and had my eyes opened.  As I've said before I bought the DSS2 when it became available, this weekend I switched to my new setup.

Since I already have the Mixamp I'm using it and the DSS2 together.  The DSS2 is handling the game audio and the Mixamp is handling the chat mixing.  I have the Mixamp plugged into the aux input on the DSS2.

It'd be silly buying the Mixamp just for chat mixing, but I imagine there are a lot of people in the same exact situation as me:  Mixamp owner who converted to the DSS.  If you have both you might as well put the Mixamp to work.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:34 AM - 02/06/12
the creative recon amp does this

but its not very usefull, it boosts the frequency in which footsteps usually are send, so anything in that range gets louder
Interesting, I never looked into the Recon3D until now.  Are you talking about the built-in 'Scout Mode' that is supposed to increase footstep volume, or are you talking about the built-in equalizer via the software?

It looks like it has a 10-band equalizer you can set by hooking it up to your PC.  I know that by increasing the range which includes the footstep sound you'll also be increasing other game sounds, but the question is do those louder footsteps still give you the advantage.  I could live with other crashes in-game being louder if it meant even louder footsteps.

amak1, it sounds like you already have some experience with equalizers and footsteps?  Is a 10-band equalizer granular enough to get the job done?

yes you can customize it whatever way you want through pc

silent, a forum user tested it a full week i think, tuned it a lot and still he said it was heavily distracting and no real advantage at all
there are quite some situations were you have more of a disadvantage than an advantage, eg when lots of people are running around you

on the sheet this function might look nice, but the reality is that you usually dont think about the situations where its a pain but the ones where you can benefit from it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: zariaman on 10:41 AM - 02/06/12
DSS2 Update:
I was a happy Astro Mixamp owner til I started reading his thread and had my eyes opened.  As I've said before I bought the DSS2 when it became available, this weekend I switched to my new setup.

Since I already have the Mixamp I'm using it and the DSS2 together.  The DSS2 is handling the game audio and the Mixamp is handling the chat mixing.  I have the Mixamp plugged into the aux input on the DSS2.

It'd be silly buying the Mixamp just for chat mixing, but I imagine there are a lot of people in the same exact situation as me:  Mixamp owner who converted to the DSS.  If you have both you might as well put the Mixamp to work.

Just got the DSS2 in the mail; already an owner of the mixamp and mixamp wireless system.  I got onto the forum to read on how I can get the dss2 to work with game chat. 

So basically you have the mic plugged into Mixamp and then into the DSS2 AUX? 

I played three FFA games without the chat and I am liking the DSS2; still figuring out all the EQ settings.  Out of the box the Recon3D sounds way way better.  For now I will keep on tweaking and maybe read the instructions to find out all the settings.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 10:55 AM - 02/06/12
  So basically you have the mic plugged into Mixamp and then into the DSS2 AUX? 
The Mixamp comes with a cable that I believe they call the Y-Splitter cable.  Single male connection on one end that plugs into the Mixamp headset input, and the other end of the cable splits out to red and green female connections.  Plug your mic into the red connection.  And then connect a cable from the green connection to the aux-in on the DSS2.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:02 PM - 02/06/12
So for the footsteps you would want a parametric eq not a graphic bc the graphic frequency selectors are pre set. A parametric you can fine tune and zero in on a very small range of frequencies of your chosing and either boost or attenuate them.

I havnt tried it myself but obviously ive worked in a recording studio for years and went to school for it. I couldnt really see it being a big problem like odin said but it would def. Take some getting used to.... Just like sitrep pro in mw2.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Jetzki on 08:20 PM - 02/07/12
So for the footsteps you would want a parametric eq not a graphic bc the graphic frequency selectors are pre set. A parametric you can fine tune and zero in on a very small range of frequencies of your chosing and either boost or attenuate them.

I havnt tried it myself but obviously ive worked in a recording studio for years and went to school for it. I couldnt really see it being a big problem like odin said but it would def. Take some getting used to.... Just like sitrep pro in mw2.
woah... i don't think it really understood what you just wrote there, but it sounded amazing. any chance of a suggestion to a program i can run on my laptop that might be able to manipulate my game sounds like this?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:49 AM - 02/08/12
again i dont think its that much efficient

back in my competitive days, my whole clan including me hacked the mapfiles, erased any enviromental sounds and boosted the footstep sounds to a maximum
actually the most efficient way, and still it wasnt really worth it
(anti cheat proof and ofc gameplay frapsed without sound so no one noticed lol)

i mean in mw3 you have annoying achievment sounds, winning/losing sounds, and ofc shooting sounds
this all still will distract you more than you might think of


well you can try it, personally i found it rather pointless
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 12:04 PM - 02/08/12
You find it useless to hear better where footsteps are coming from?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:57 PM - 02/08/12
Odin is prolly right... Im just saying if you wanted to do it youd want a parametric eq not a graphic... And it is prolly more trouble than its worth anywhos. Erasing all the sounds except gunshots and footsteps is pretty brilliant though.... @#$% germans  :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:05 PM - 02/08/12
You find it useless to hear better where footsteps are coming from?

yes, because it doesnt work the way you said it
unless you hack into the gamefiles theres no way to efficiency boost footstep sounds without distorting the whole game sound (apart from maybe amaks idea, but:)
and then still you are facing the next problem:

has anyone in here ever boosted a very silent sound?
(eg using one of those spy toys with which you can overhear what other people say far away from you)
the result is a buzzing and cracking sound, something that sounds quite different to what it was before
like listening to the radio in the car while entering a tunnel and the signal starts to interrupt)


i know this is hard to imagine unless you havent tested it, but it just doesnt work the way as some describe it in here
boosting footsteps ≠ better positioning


third and last, as ive already said ive messed around with that years ago coming to exactly this experience
also silent trigger did a similar approach several month ago just to find out the very same, so its really not just my ears lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:08 PM - 02/08/12
Odin is prolly right... Im just saying if you wanted to do it youd want a parametric eq not a graphic... And it is prolly more trouble than its worth anywhos. Erasing all the sounds except gunshots and footsteps is pretty brilliant though.... @#$% germans  :P

lol we used it for much more, eg every gun and equipment that spawns in the map does a very silent sound, something you barely hear even when standing close to it

we overwrote the sound with a loud and noticeable "beep", so whenever the powerweapon XY dropped we instantly heard it over the whole map lol

this and implementing killstreak sounds from quake 3 like monsterkill, domination, ultrakill and so on ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 08:27 AM - 02/09/12
Odin, that sounds epic. Crazy Germans is right.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 08:53 AM - 02/09/12
Modifying sounds is clearly a hack too ;) Thats why I never cared to play in a competitive clan, everyone tries to use any advantage possible over the competition. Whether with configs in css, sound modifying, skin changes on enemies/ weapons to see them better etc. etc. Some of it is grey zone, some is cheating.

Imo boosting footsteps will not give any significant advantage. It will also boost your teammates footsteps and when hearing multiple footsteps it will disorient you rather than help. Just use Ninja or Sitrep Pro and you will hear everything you need to hear. The effort ist not worth it, switching from TV to super fast lcd monitor will give a bigger advantage or from W-LAN to LAN connection.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:07 AM - 02/09/12
W-LAN to LAN connection.

I want to emphasize this.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:39 AM - 02/09/12
Wow you guys can get a very cheap inear headset for your Mixamps. Check this and read some reviews. 4 pin with mic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875996107

Tuff can you send me one?

roads said I could rip the package open and try these things out.  I want to give a review before I ship them off to Germany.

High points if you don't want to read my entire review:

I did two tests with these.  A gaming, positional cue test and a overall sound quality test.

Gaming test:
I played BF3 using my DSS.  Positional cues are quite accurate.  Not as defined as the Koss KSC75, which I find to be the best, but on par if not better than the JVC HARX700.  Soundstage is not very large so the Dolby Headphone is a little "squishy", but you get used to it quickly and then you start hearing the positional cues.  These IEM's are not bass heavy at all, I think that's why the positional audio is so good.  Too much bass can really screw with Dolby Headphone, so the lack of bass with these help them out for gaming.

Sound quality test:
I have a collection of FLAC sources that I ran this with, primarily Tedeschi Trucks Band.  Again, these are not bass heavy.  They do reproduce the lower frequencies, but they decay very quickly.  This gives the illusion of there being no bass.  It is there, its just tight and snappy as opposed to boomy.  The other frequencies are quite nice though.  Mids are not muddy and the highs are not tinny.  The mids and highs are both quite distinct and yet mix well together.  These IEM's benefit greatly from some EQ tweaking.  I found the best sound come from boosting 125hz a bit and cutting 4khz a little and 8khz a little more.  Booms the bass a little without loosening it while allowing the mids and highs their clarity, which is the strong point of these IEM's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 09:45 AM - 02/09/12
W-LAN to LAN connection.

I want to emphasize this.

Dear god. I cannot deal with dropped packets.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 09:53 AM - 02/09/12
yep packet loss FTL. A gamers worst friend ;) See thats why the worst thing is when a kid whos on W-LAN gets picked as host. Ofcourse usually its a shared wlan with at least 4 ppl downloading any possible crap, just stressing out the internet connection. The game becomes then a gambling session and less skill based.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 10:31 AM - 02/09/12
Ok, so I decided to try out the ad700's & the modmic, the 700's should be in tomorrow - I already have the dss, will I need any special cables for the cans & the dss?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 10:48 AM - 02/09/12
Can someone do a comparison between a DSS and a DSS2? Peformance, spec differences, etc?

I'm still not quite sure what the different between the two.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:52 AM - 02/09/12
The DSS outputs standard 3.5mm TRS, so your headphones will work just fine stock.  To use your mic you will need a headset buddy or similar 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter/splitter for the controller.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 11:05 AM - 02/09/12
Nice review tuff!  Sounds like a great value buy, I might as well throw a pair into my next Amazon order.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 08:15 AM - 02/10/12
Hi guys,

Okay, this is a question for people who have, or have used the Steelseries Spectrum audio mixer with the dss/dss2.

I gather by looking at the mixer, the way it connects is as follows:

The USB cable and the 3.5mm jack cable coming from the bottom of the mixer goes into the headphone jack on the dss/dss2 and the usb passthrough???

Then your chosen headphones and mic plug directly into the audio mixer attached to your xbox 360 controller???

Now if this is correct, will the sound quality from the dss/dss2 into the audio mixer be exactly the same as if you had the headphones plugged directly into the dss/dss2 ie no degraded sound especially the dolby digital surround sound???

I know about the views ref the hissing that has been experienced, but my concern would be the dolby processor sound being messed up???

Thanks,

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:55 PM - 02/10/12
Wow you guys can get a very cheap inear headset for your Mixamps. Check this and read some reviews. 4 pin with mic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875996107

Tuff can you send me one?

roads said I could rip the package open and try these things out.  I want to give a review before I ship them off to Germany.

High points if you don't want to read my entire review:
  • Great positional cues.  So good for Dolby Headphone.
  • Very distinct mids and highs.
  • Very little bass, this can be mostly resolved with some EQ'ing.  Very responsive to EQ.
  • Good for Astro Mixamp, with the built in mic and the 4-pole jack.
  • Great for portable music if you have a decent source, amp, and EQ options.

I did two tests with these.  A gaming, positional cue test and a overall sound quality test.

Gaming test:
I played BF3 using my DSS.  Positional cues are quite accurate.  Not as defined as the Koss KSC75, which I find to be the best, but on par if not better than the JVC HARX700.  Soundstage is not very large so the Dolby Headphone is a little "squishy", but you get used to it quickly and then you start hearing the positional cues.  These IEM's are not bass heavy at all, I think that's why the positional audio is so good.  Too much bass can really screw with Dolby Headphone, so the lack of bass with these help them out for gaming.

Sound quality test:
I have a collection of FLAC sources that I ran this with, primarily Tedeschi Trucks Band.  Again, these are not bass heavy.  They do reproduce the lower frequencies, but they decay very quickly.  This gives the illusion of there being no bass.  It is there, its just tight and snappy as opposed to boomy.  The other frequencies are quite nice though.  Mids are not muddy and the highs are not tinny.  The mids and highs are both quite distinct and yet mix well together.  These IEM's benefit greatly from some EQ tweaking.  I found the best sound come from boosting 125hz a bit and cutting 4khz a little and 8khz a little more.  Booms the bass a little without loosening it while allowing the mids and highs their clarity, which is the strong point of these IEM's.

Nice review Tuff and thanks doing this for me. So with these plugs we seem to have found the cheapest solution for a headset getting a B+ result. The bass is something multiplayers want to keep low so this could be even an advantage. 18$ is ridiculously cheap.
I will try them against the Shure 215 but those cost much more (80 Euro + 50 Euro for the Iphone=mixamp cable) at least in Europe.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:01 AM - 02/11/12
Hi guys,

Okay, this is a question for people who have, or have used the Steelseries Spectrum audio mixer with the dss/dss2.

I gather by looking at the mixer, the way it connects is as follows:

The USB cable and the 3.5mm jack cable coming from the bottom of the mixer goes into the headphone jack on the dss/dss2 and the usb passthrough???

Then your chosen headphones and mic plug directly into the audio mixer attached to your xbox 360 controller???

Now if this is correct, will the sound quality from the dss/dss2 into the audio mixer be exactly the same as if you had the headphones plugged directly into the dss/dss2 ie no degraded sound especially the dolby digital surround sound???

I know about the views ref the hissing that has been experienced, but my concern would be the dolby processor sound being messed up???

Thanks,

Dave.


it goes the following:

dss over optical connected with xbox
dss headphone out is connected with the black jack from the specturm
spectrum is plugged into the controller

headphone + headset connected to the spectrum, pink and green plug port
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 08:19 AM - 02/11/12
Yep, so as i said above.

What about any degrading sounds, not including the hissing people have mentioned, is there any????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:19 AM - 02/11/12
i have the spectrum, i never had any hissing unless i set both volume knobs on the spectrum to maximum
of the sound is far to loud to actually listen to it, but when you are in a total silent area you can hear a his

on the other hand roads had a spectrum mixer as well and he had the hissing even in medium volumes
he used a hd598, me a dt770 pro


my personal oppinion is that it probably has more something to do with the controller you use
also what volume settings you are running on the dss itself, i guess yes with a bad volume setup you can hear hissing on medium sound, but if you tweak it like normal (eg not dss = minimum, spectrum = maximum volume) you should be fine




degrading sound, well yes
anything you additionally put into the line will make the sound a bit weaker
i have tested the spectrum for about half a year, for me the sound was fine, although you slightly notice the sound differnce with/without spectrum
but still its a lot better than eg the sound of the mixamp



also if it turns out to be unplayable, you still have the option to go with an external headphone amp like the fiio
better quality components will give you better sound, on the other hand this is just theory and no one in this topic tested that combination so far
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 10:24 AM - 02/11/12
A friend has just got the dss and he may need the spectrum so the query is for him, he is still tweaking the settings as he games because he would rather not have another thing added.

I'm waiting for my dss2 to arrive and i'm hoping i don't need one.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 06:21 PM - 02/11/12
My ad700's came in on Friday.  I gotta say those are some very comfortable phones.  I usually game in 3-5 hour spurts, so this is very good for me. I hooked em up to my dss & I heard sounds that i never heard b4 with my turtle beaches.  I'm waiting for my modmic to come in next week so I'll do some burn in in the meantime.  I'm still gonna have to get the dt770's cause my wife gave me that look when I hooked em up in the bedroom, she said it sounded like the tv was still on.  I played mw3 & mw1 for a couple of hours. Really impressive soundstage, but mw1 audio is a lot better than mw3 for hearing footsteps & such.   I still plan on getting a mixamp cause I always play with friends so ineed that chat mixing, does any1 know if u can hook up the mixamp for just chat & still use dss1 for audio?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:29 PM - 02/11/12
yes that way works, was posted on page 56 i think
mixamp + dss

the dt770 is better than the audiotechnica, you will most likey find it even nicer soundwise
also barely any sound makes its way out of the headphone, so your wife will be happy ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:40 PM - 02/11/12
What are you guys burning these in with? Pink noise or is there something else reccommended?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:45 PM - 02/11/12
just use internet radio or create a playlist with some different songs
i wouldnt use one constant noise
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:46 PM - 02/11/12
What are you guys burning these in with? Pink noise or is there something else reccommended?

Porn

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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:30 PM - 02/11/12
If you want to be silent to your suroundings get the 770 pro or those cheap inears I posted.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 05:43 AM - 02/12/12
770s are too bassy imo. Id rather use a PC350/360 over 770s, but thats just my taste, because I dont like bass heavy cans neither for gaming nor music.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:42 AM - 02/12/12
dont forget the dss has a bass volume control, the mixamp also reduces bass to a minimum
you should be fine :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:07 AM - 02/12/12
770s are too bassy imo. Id rather use a PC350/360 over 770s, but thats just my taste, because I dont like bass heavy cans neither for gaming nor music.
Yes but the best closed ones maybe. The hd650 are open, the guy said his wife complained.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 02:15 PM - 02/12/12
For burn in I found an app on iTunes called burn in sound & u can program in time intervals rest periods & it has white noise, pink noise, various frequencies sweeps, sounds like rain & car engines revving that's what I'm using to burn it in.  I like these 700's so far, the soundstage is very good for fps's, but  not good if I want to game in the bedroom,  so that's why I'll look into the 770's also.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:11 PM - 02/12/12
Posted it before but nobody reads that far back


 http://www.burninwave.com/

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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 05:14 PM - 02/12/12
Hey guys,

Has anyone tried the Sennheiser hd 558 and the hd 598?

I'm just wondering what the difference really is, especially for gaming. I've read the hd 558 are good for surround sound so wondered if they would suit the dss2 better, especially as both headphones can produce a lower and higher freq than the dss2 can anyway.

Price wise the hd 598 cost 60% more than the hd 558 do, are they worth it?

Thanks,

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:09 AM - 02/13/12
The 598 is only so expensive as they are bought so much. You could literally see the price growing on Amazon over the first 6 months it came out. You could just buy the drivers of the 598 and pop them into the 558, same chassis. If you are able to set 4 soldering points of course.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 05:56 AM - 02/13/12
558 and 598 has the same driver. Only difference is the housing. Just get a pair of 558s and do a 558 to 598 mod by removing a foam. It will not sound identical, because the plastic housing behind the drivers is still different but they will sound 99% identical Id say.

Google for more infos or use search function on headfi.org
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 06:20 AM - 02/13/12
Yeah right same drivers my mistake.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 06:42 AM - 02/13/12
If they're the same drivers, which i've also read, how comes the freq response is so different:

HD 558 - 15Hz - 28kHz

HD 598 - 12Hz - 38.5kHz

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:03 AM - 02/13/12
To be sure email Sennheiser.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 01:26 PM - 02/14/12
So I'm thinking about ditching my X41's and getting HD 595s. I think I do want to mix chat in as well.

 What else am I going to need? DSS (original or 2, still debating on that)? Not sure what else.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:47 PM - 02/14/12
If you are thinking of buying a DSS I would wait until one of the guys who have a DSS2 chimes in on easy it is to mix in chat.

To directly answer your question... you will need a 3.5mm mic.  Amazon has a number of inexpensive options.  You will also need a headset buddy, or similar 2.5mm to 3.5mm splitter/adapter.  Also from Amazon.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 02:25 PM - 02/14/12
Should I even bother trying to make it wireless with an Astro Wirless Mixamp?

I'll wait to hear about the DSS2. Is it hard with the DSS?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:30 PM - 02/14/12
Astro Mixamp doesn't sound good.  Though it looks like you can pair it with a DSS just for the mixing funtion, while letting the DSS do the heavy lifting.

Yes, it is harder with the DSS 1.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:33 PM - 02/14/12
depends on what you want, if wireless is an important factor then you can consider it

but

the astro wireless mixamp eats batteries for breakfast, lunch and dinner
people told me every 6-8h they put a full bag of batteries into it, which makes it quite expensive if you dont have rechargable batteries




ofc soundwise the dss is much better
so if you can avoid wireless you should go wired
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 03:49 PM - 02/14/12
The reason why I went wireless is because my xbox is sitting on a shelf about 10 ft away from the couch. But now that I have a Xim3 cord going all the way to the couch anyway, I might as well add another cord for audio because I cannot stand the random popping in my X41's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:44 AM - 02/15/12
If you are thinking of buying a DSS I would wait until one of the guys who have a DSS2 chimes in on easy it is to mix in chat.
What else do we need to know?  I've been chat mixing with my DSS2 using an Astro Mixamp plugged into the aux input.

I'm assuming an Aimon-HP woul be a cheaper alternative, and there might be even cheaper than that?

It's not whether or not it works now, it's what's the cheapest most accessible solution.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:04 PM - 02/15/12
We are wanting to know if you can incorporate chat sound with nothing but a headset buddy (or similar adapter) and maybe a very cheap headphone amp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 10:10 PM - 02/15/12
Thinking of upgrading my headset. AD700 is what I am looking purchasing but I am kinda lost to what type of external mic and adapter is needed so I can chat using this set up. Chat is not that really important but just to have it would be a plus. I have a DSS that I will be using with this set up I plan to do. Also what is a good wireless headset out in the market? Any suggestions would really be of help. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 07:43 AM - 02/16/12
I just got the ad700's, I use it with the dss.  the antlion  modmic with headset buddy came in on monday, works like a charm. I'm still gonna get a mixamp so I can do some chat mixing. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:20 AM - 02/16/12
Thinking of upgrading my headset. AD700 is what I am looking purchasing but I am kinda lost to what type of external mic and adapter is needed so I can chat using this set up. Chat is not that really important but just to have it would be a plus. I have a DSS that I will be using with this set up I plan to do. Also what is a good wireless headset out in the market? Any suggestions would really be of help. Thanks in advance.

i dont know if there are good wireless headsets, most of them are pretty garbage
and the only ones ive seen so far are from tritton and turtle beach, i dont recommend them

the astro mixamp wireless makes your headphones kinda wireless, check them out
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 08:36 PM - 02/18/12
Hey guys/gals which would you pick? PC360 w/ DSS or A40 w/ mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:40 PM - 02/18/12
not the a40
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:00 PM - 02/18/12
why so? it had a bunch of good reviews.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:05 PM - 02/18/12
Read the thread, it's not bad but price to performance ratio sucks

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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:09 PM - 02/18/12
I ain't reading all 59 pages. So your saying its priced to much for its performance? So if performance, what headset out in the market is equal to it?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:14 PM - 02/18/12
I'll summarize the thread then. Don't buy a headset, buy headphones and a separate mic. Everybody thinking everything except what they has either sucks or is overpriced. Germans hating on the mixamp. People taking up a lot of desk space to mix chat into the DSS1. People entering at page 30 going "wut get gaiz?"

Just to be clear the mixamp is fine, the a40 headset is the overpriced part. They do look good though. If it has to be a headset and not headphones with separate mic sennheiser pc360 is much better but pretty expensive, I wouldn't pay that much. I'd get something like the RAZER Carcharias before I got the a40 or pc360.

I like the mixamp because I can use it for mic and audio through my computer and xbox at the same time. If my headset breaks I can go buy whatever cheap pc headset i want and use it. Personally I use audiotechnica AD700s and soldered on a 3.5mm mic jack.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:23 PM - 02/18/12
why so? it had a bunch of good reviews.

probably no one that posted in this topic / or read the topic will recommend you the a40

they re no bad, but with the same money you can go much better
mixamp itself is ok, although the dss does the better job if you leave out chat control

to make it short
what you are going to buy is a ad700 + dss2 :P
same price as a40 but multiple times better

also read the topic lol, 59 pages might look shocking but after page 30 or so you got all the knowledge you need to know
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:11 PM - 02/18/12
Stetab you are right and you know I have to do this, nothing personal :D. If you get the Mixamp 3MIX, get the Crysis 2 demo and play the intro movie to hear the Mixamps true power. They sadly adjusted sound quality to their headsets. With one of those Asto headsets it could sound well as you would not even hear the lowest frequencies I guess. Otherwise the Mixamp is a great product nothing touches its mixing capabilities, it even gives side tone as I learned from Odin. There is just zero need to connect more to it than a 700AD audio technica. If you can stand the narrow frequency it works in well, by all means buy it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:35 PM - 02/18/12
lol we should call this the "roads benchmark"
put a amp of your choice + headphones together with the crysis 2 demo intro and see how it sounds like ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 11:40 PM - 02/18/12
sennheiser 360/350
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 08:05 AM - 02/20/12
I ain't reading all 59 pages.
I really suggest reading through the thread until the information becomes redundant.  It's sure to change the way you think about gaming audio.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:07 PM - 02/20/12
Ok so I tried the Astro A40's and for me there's to much bass. I am looking for something in between. Good highs , and good bass. The A40 has more bass then highs IMO. Do you think the PC360 or AD700 has this? Also, it's not a must have for me but is any of the above mentioned headset opened? Reason why I ask is because I just got my @#$% chewed from my wife because she has been  calling for me and I couldnt here jack shet thus leading to a 5 month ol' pregnant wife chewing my ears off. I would hate to imagine the day she goes to labor and I am gaming while she's downstairs calling me and I don't hear her. That wouldn't be good. I can just see her being so frustrated that she goes on a rage and starts throwing my gaming equipment around. LOL . She can throw anything she can grab but not my xim3 ! LOL.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:01 PM - 02/20/12
ad700 as well as pc360 are both open
the ad700 is a headphone with really low bass level

why did you buy the a40 lol, we told you to do not :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:23 PM - 02/20/12
Ok so I tried the Astro A40's and for me there's to much bass. I am looking for something in between. Good highs , and good bass. The A40 has more bass then highs IMO. Do you think the PC360 or AD700 has this? Also, it's not a must have for me but is any of the above mentioned headset opened? Reason why I ask is because I just got my @#$% chewed from my wife because she has been  calling for me and I couldnt here jack shet thus leading to a 5 month ol' pregnant wife chewing my ears off. I would hate to imagine the day she goes to labor and I am gaming while she's downstairs calling me and I don't hear her. That wouldn't be good. I can just see her being so frustrated that she goes on a rage and starts throwing my gaming equipment around. LOL . She can throw anything she can grab but not my xim3 ! LOL.

Get a second mixamp, daisy chain them, and have her wear a headset to talk to you
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 10:40 PM - 02/20/12
Trial and error my friend. Sometimes you gotta judge it for yourself.  Besides I bought it used from some kid that needed money quick so he sold em to me for $140. Says he got it for a gift ,offered $140 (2011 ed. headset + mixamp ) and he went for it. His loss my gain.  LOL . So the pc360 is the best of both worlds ?




ad700 as well as pc360 are both open
the ad700 is a headphone with really low bass level

why did you buy the a40 lol, we told you to do not :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:42 AM - 02/21/12
Lolz! This is just too funny. I bet ppl think lil wayne is an amazing musician and poet aswell.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:52 PM - 02/21/12
no the pc360 is not the best, its ok, but not as good as a headphone for the same money
(however ofc the pc360 is much better than the a40)

why do people always aim for headsets
headphone + external clipmic to your shirt is just as comfortable lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 02:14 PM - 02/21/12
So what about the AD700? What is the best headphone out there? If I go with AD700 or PC360 which should I pair it with? DSS or mixamp?



no the pc360 is not the best, its ok, but not as good as a headphone for the same money
(however ofc the pc360 is much better than the a40)

why do people always aim for headsets
headphone + external clipmic to your shirt is just as comfortable lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 02:31 PM - 02/21/12
Best? If you are looking for closed ones you will have most fun with the 770 Pro 80 ohm or 250 ohm if you want to use an amp and have slightly better sound. If you are looking for open get the Sennheisers 558 discussed here and if you have the cash pimp get the HD650 Sennheisers.
I still say the Shure 215 inears are a real option with the Iphone cable for closed, I simply love the sound.  I tried the Shure 415 and gave them back.

The AD700 are good for the price but I found them sounding boring as well as the PC360.



Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 03:28 PM - 02/21/12
What would you say is best for hearing "everything."

Right now I'm trying to get some bids on eBay for the HD 595s. I plan on pairing this with a DSS1/2, but still waiting to hear exactly the best way to set that up chat mixing.

EDIT: I have X41s and they are just awful. I have to turn up the volume very loud just to be able to hear footsteps.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 04:09 PM - 02/21/12
Lolz! This is just too funny. I bet ppl think lil wayne is an amazing musician and poet aswell.

some of the stuff he says is clever, i suspect he writes everything nicki minaj says too
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:35 PM - 02/21/12
So what about the AD700? What is the best headphone out there? If I go with AD700 or PC360 which should I pair it with? DSS or mixamp?



no the pc360 is not the best, its ok, but not as good as a headphone for the same money
(however ofc the pc360 is much better than the a40)

why do people always aim for headsets
headphone + external clipmic to your shirt is just as comfortable lol

ad700 + dss2 = better sound + bass control, no chat mixing
ad700 + mixamp = no bass controll, weaker sound, but chat mixing

its up to you
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:44 PM - 02/21/12
What would you say is best for hearing "everything."

Right now I'm trying to get some bids on eBay for the HD 595s. I plan on pairing this with a DSS1/2, but still waiting to hear exactly the best way to set that up chat mixing.

EDIT: I have X41s and they are just awful. I have to turn up the volume very loud just to be able to hear footsteps.

yeah thats a nice setup with the dss2
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:31 PM - 02/21/12
So the AD700 + DSS1 is not something you would consider?






So what about the AD700? What is the best headphone out there? If I go with AD700 or PC360 which should I pair it with? DSS or mixamp?






no the pc360 is not the best, its ok, but not as good as a headphone for the same money
(however ofc the pc360 is much better than the a40)

why do people always aim for headsets
headphone + external clipmic to your shirt is just as comfortable lol

ad700 + dss2 = better sound + bass control, no chat mixing
ad700 + mixamp = no bass controll, weaker sound, but chat mixing

its up to you
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:29 PM - 02/21/12
the dss2 is basically the dss1 with some more fuctions :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 06:56 AM - 02/22/12
why do people always aim for headsets
headphone + external clipmic to your shirt is just as comfortable lol
I'll take that a step further and say if you like the look/feel of a headset boom mic then get an Antlion mic for your headphones.  I'm LOVING mine.  Couldn't be easier to install, no modding.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:10 AM - 02/22/12
I have an Antlion here, quality is very bad for the price and the magnets are not nilling them selves away, meaning there is still magnetism influencing the driver. Just saying but of course better than fiddling with a clipmic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 08:14 AM - 02/22/12
Just won an auction on my HD 595s. I'll let you guys know how I like them when I get them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:33 AM - 02/22/12
sure

dont forget the burin in if they re new
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: gloryandi on 08:41 AM - 02/22/12
Whats a good burn in time?  I have been using them for probably 100 hrs already

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Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:07 AM - 02/22/12
200h or so should be fine
you may just continue to use them and over the time they re "cooked"
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 03:42 PM - 02/22/12
I have the antlion modmic with my ad700's & dss with no problems so far.  I play with friends all the time & they haven't complained yet, said my voice sounded better than with the tb's I had.  I put the magnet where the cable comes out on the left underneath side of the left earcup, not actually on the purple part of the cup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Choochoo on 05:42 PM - 02/22/12
About two months ago I read this thread (about 40 pages back then), I upgraded from my A40's/Mixamp to 595's and DSS1 also upgraded from xim2 to xim3, and my kdr has gone from 2.15 to 3.46 and climbing, It was a huge improvement.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:53 PM - 02/22/12
I have the antlion modmic with my ad700's & dss with no problems so far.  I play with friends all the time & they haven't complained yet, said my voice sounded better than with the tb's I had.  I put the magnet where the cable comes out on the left underneath side of the left earcup, not actually on the purple part of the cup.

The Idea is nice but only for unmoddable expensive headsets like the HD650 Sennheiser. For the price it should have magnets that zero themselves out and should not be of cheapest china plastic.  Its not even worth half of the price. I exchanged the plug and also found that it uses the cheapest worst cable available on the planet. Sound is OK fo the crappiness, at least they found a good mic for 20ct.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:59 AM - 02/23/12
About two months ago I read this thread (about 40 pages back then), I upgraded from my A40's/Mixamp to 595's and DSS1 also upgraded from xim2 to xim3, and my kdr has gone from 2.15 to 3.46 and climbing, It was a huge improvement.

nice to hear that you liked it :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:07 AM - 02/23/12
at least from that review there isnt any influence on the driver
http://www.vanillatf2.org/2012/01/antlion-audio-modmic-review-and-giveaway/

but from my personal oppinion, any slight magnetism should make an influence, i guess the more quiet the more influence as the driver doesnt swing that much
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:31 AM - 02/23/12
Thanks Tuff the M6-P have arrived. They sound almost as good as the shure that cost 10x as much and they are much more comfy to wear. 18$ is a ridiculous price for these inears.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:35 AM - 02/23/12
i want to be linked plz 8)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 05:18 AM - 02/23/12
www.amazon.com -> M6p Mee electronics
You may want to call the german shops to import the m6p also. You can only find the M6.
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Post by: Od1n on 06:18 AM - 02/23/12
im confused with amazon.com, the ones with weird mic-stab costs less than the version without mic lol
(because of the current discount, but still thats funny)


nevertheless this shop sells them for a fair euro price
http://www.headsound.de/epages/63028271.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63028271/Products/MEEM16P

gotta think about them as my current ones stopped working
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Post by: roads on 06:23 AM - 02/23/12
LOL 29€,  that’s exactly the price I payed for importing them via Tuff (thanks again!). Good thing is you can use them on your Mixamp also.
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Post by: Od1n on 06:26 AM - 02/23/12
so roads its the m16p right, not the m6 as you wrote on page 61

the m6 costs more thats why im asking
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Post by: roads on 06:58 AM - 02/23/12
If you have an Iphone or need the mic for gaming  it’s the m6p other wise go for the M6. I personally think its nice to press the button to get the call or get the next song by double-press rather than fiddling my phone out of the pocket.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:04 AM - 02/23/12
Sorry it’s the M6P just checked again !!! You are right M6P not M16P
I am correcting my posts not that someone buys the m16p.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 08:15 AM - 02/23/12
About two months ago I read this thread (about 40 pages back then), I upgraded from my A40's/Mixamp to 595's and DSS1 also upgraded from xim2 to xim3, and my kdr has gone from 2.15 to 3.46 and climbing, It was a huge improvement.

That is also great to hear because I just purchased some HD 595s. Should be here tomorrow.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 08:40 AM - 02/23/12
Glad you got it buddy.  I was a bit worried about it.  I asked the guy behind the counter at the postal shop if the address I had for you was correct... he said he had no idea.  :o

Did you get all the ear wax off them?  I got as much as I could.  Had to use a toothpick to scrape my ear goo from the inside of the flange.  ;)

Oh BTW... you non-Americans.  roads said 29 euro.  It's actually a bit less.  We estimated the shipping cost too high, he ended up PayPaling me $12 too much.  Dude wouldn't let me send it back to him.
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Post by: sandak on 08:52 AM - 02/23/12
Glad you got it buddy.  I was a bit worried about it.  I asked the guy behind the counter at the postal shop if the address I had for you was correct... he said he had no idea.  :o

Did you get all the ear wax off them?  I got as much as I could.  Had to use a toothpick to scrape my ear goo from the inside of the flange.  ;)

Oh BTW... you non-Americans.  roads said 29 euro.  It's actually a bit less.  We estimated the shipping cost too high, he ended up PayPaling me $12 too much.  Dude wouldn't let me send it back to him.

Thanks odin! I knew I was doing business with the right guy. When I get the headphones I'll make sure to run it through the dishwasher and peel the caked on ear wax with a chizzel. Cheers.
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Post by: roads on 09:16 AM - 02/23/12
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$12 too much.  Dude wouldn't let me send it back to him.

put 6$ on and buy them for yourself :) For the goo had to run them through the sterilisator at 125°. :)
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Post by: GotchaOpen on 09:53 AM - 02/23/12
I'm still looking for a set of closed cans also, has any1 on here tried the Fischer audio 003's with a mixamp/dss?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 10:10 AM - 02/23/12
Odin, and anyone else. I know this has been asked before, but let me ask it in a different way.

Is it worth spending $80 on the DSS2 or getting a used DSS for $41?
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Post by: PositivEntropy on 04:30 AM - 02/24/12
I just recently won a new tb x12 and dss combo for 25 bucks on ebay. I mean they sounds pretty decent better with the dss and I guess for the price I made a good purchase
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Post by: Od1n on 05:27 AM - 02/24/12
Odin, and anyone else. I know this has been asked before, but let me ask it in a different way.

Is it worth spending $80 on the DSS2 or getting a used DSS for $41?

havent tested the dss2 yet, but from it specs it should be possible to mix chatsound with it
it has an audio in that is mixed into the sound, so with a cheap preamp it should be possible

(see what professor wrote)
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Post by: XImember on 02:37 PM - 02/24/12
Just went back 10+ pages but im pressed on time, can someone tell me why most of you are using the dss/dss2? Oppose to just the mixamp because i thought the dss had hissing?
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Post by: roads on 02:45 PM - 02/24/12
No hissing on DSS
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Post by: Od1n on 03:08 PM - 02/24/12
Just went back 10+ pages but im pressed on time, can someone tell me why most of you are using the dss/dss2? Oppose to just the mixamp because i thought the dss had hissing?

edited:
dss has much better sound quality, also most people have no need for live chatmixing
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 04:57 PM - 02/24/12
^replace mixamp with DSS must be a typo or Bavarian beer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:19 PM - 02/24/12
LOL yes indeed!
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Post by: XImember on 09:45 PM - 02/24/12
How much better? And what are the pros/cons to both? I already own a mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:41 AM - 02/25/12
The Mixamp can not process very low and high tones well, at best you just loose the sound like the high chirping on firing range at its lower part. At worst the headset is crackling. The intro movie of Crysis 2 has some very very deep tones and you might think your headset is broken. If you can live with that the mixamp is a perfect mixing device. For me it drove me crazy. But that’s just me I cant stand if the movie has more than one framedrop, it has to be fluid. So perfect sound quality and no mixing, get the DSS/DSS2.
For a mixamp I would not buy a better headset than a AD700 or a PC360 Senn.

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Post by: XImember on 01:50 AM - 02/25/12
Well, im going to test my pc360's 2nite and looks like i may have to try out the dss2. Sadly at this time all i play is MW3.So do u think its worth it? I was using the a40 setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:25 AM - 02/25/12
mw3 has a bad sound, if you want it for positioning then yes
but for audio quality then no

you just cannot compare it to games like bf3 with an extremly well made soundtrack
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:55 AM - 02/25/12
@#$% roads you know a lot about these kinds of stuff. RESPECT! You and od1n are very informative.  How did you guys figure all this out? Trying them out and comparing?  If you did were they given to you for reviewing or did you buy them? Theses headphones get a bit pricey that's why I ask. I always read you guys posts as I learn something new everytime. You guys a awesome!


The Mixamp can not process very low and high tones well, at best you just loose the sound like the high chirping on firing range at its lower part. At worst the headset is crackling. The intro movie of Crysis 2 has some very very deep tones and you might think your headset is broken. If you can live with that the mixamp is a perfect mixing device. For me it drove me crazy. But that’s just me I cant stand if the movie has more than one framedrop, it has to be fluid. So perfect sound quality and no mixing, get the DSS/DSS2.
For a mixamp I would not buy a better headset than a AD700 or a PC360 Senn.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:15 AM - 02/25/12
a big part of the knowledge is thanks to silent
he pretty much bought any console amp available, and tested them with lots of different headphones and headsets

also something i learned from him is to selfish ;)
buying 3 different alternatives and only keep the best one
not that nice for the shop though
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Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 08:31 AM - 02/25/12
Props to silent too then. What does he for a living? Is he a pimp? LOL. JK.
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Post by: stetab on 09:40 AM - 02/25/12
a big part of the knowledge is thanks to silent
he pretty much bought any console amp available, and tested them with lots of different headphones and headsets

also something i learned from him is to selfish ;)
buying 3 different alternatives and only keep the best one
not that nice for the shop though

depends where you buy i guess, amazon basically encourages this. Probably a rare case though. I bought a hard drive enclosure from them that failed withing 10 minutes. I tried to do the refund and they just said keep it and gave my money back.
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Post by: Od1n on 10:47 AM - 02/25/12
things are different in europe

in silents country theres a law that gives him 14 days return policy when buying stuff online
doesnt matter if opened, unopened, used or unused
as long as its not broken the online shop needs to take it back and refund you

this basically allows you to buy all the headphones you consider and keep the one you like the most
the others just go back to the shop

and thats what silent did with all headsets, headphones, mice and console/hifi amps
heck we even had bets on how long he is going to keep a product ;)
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Post by: stetab on 11:17 AM - 02/25/12
selling on ebay must be a pain the @#$% there
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Post by: XImember on 02:55 PM - 02/25/12
You're right... I cant hardly tell the difference with a40s vs pc360 on mw3, so let me save those out there the trouble. DONT GET ANTHING BETTER THAN A40+MIXAMP for MW3!!!
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Post by: MarKsMinn on 07:51 AM - 02/26/12
I really think investing in a nice pair of audiophile headphones is the way to go.  Pair this with an Astro Mix Amp and you'll be set.  I have the AD900's, and completely love them.   ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:16 AM - 02/26/12
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I really think investing in a nice pair of audiophile headphones is the way to go.

YES

Quote
Pair this with an Astro Mix Amp and you'll be set.  I have the AD900's, and completely love them.   ;D

NO!
Pair it with some cans that cost no more than 100$.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: MarKsMinn on 08:58 AM - 02/26/12
I'm in the Military, and need privacy for my hobbies(gaming, music, movies) I just feel owning a nice set of cans paired with a nice amp is worthwhile.  I'm quite picky when it comes to sound. :)
P.S. Can I get rid of this verification process when posting?
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Post by: stetab on 09:03 AM - 02/26/12
I'm in the Military, and need privacy for my hobbies(gaming, music, movies) I just feel owning a nice set of cans paired with a nice amp is worthwhile.  I'm quite picky when it comes to sound. :)
P.S. Can I get rid of this verification process when posting?

10 posts and it'll be gone
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Post by: spinal_chord on 05:39 AM - 02/27/12
Hi guys,

Just an update, i've got my turtle beach earforce DSS2 now from the U.S and also my labtec boom mic, again from the states but i'm still waiting for my Sennheiser Hd 598's as most places in the U.K have no stock and the place i pre ordered them have told me Sennheiser have no eta on stock even though it's almost 14days over due.

In the mean time i've picked up a pair of JVC HA-RX700 to use, got them for the bargain price of £22 delivered.

How will these headphones paired with the DSS2 compare to the astro a40's etc????

Thanks again for all your help and info,

Dave.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 09:14 AM - 02/27/12
Please use the JVC's a good bit before you get your Senn's.  I'd like to hear your review of the differences in performance.
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Post by: spinal_chord on 09:20 AM - 02/27/12
At the moment the only headset i have to compare these JVC's to is going to be the Tritton axpro's i've been using for the last 10wks...........would you say the JVC's with the dss2 are going to be a decent step up?????

Due to getting the JVC's so cheap it was a no brainer to pick them up to give them a try before getting the hd 598...........i think it'll be a good while before i can get a pair anyway due to the delays from Sennheiser.

Dave.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 09:46 AM - 02/27/12
JVC HARX700 is my main headphone.  I use them a DSS1.  I love this setup to death.  Previously I used a set of AX PRO's, I like my current setup MUCH better.  AX PRO's are CRAZY bass heavy, makes gun reports and grenades sound cool but is really crappy with cue positioning.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 09:59 AM - 02/27/12
So for sound positioning ie picking out noises and enemies the jvc's are better than the axpro's????

Hows the sound stage on these????

Dave.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 10:58 AM - 02/27/12
Much better than the AX PRO's.  Sound stage is better than what you would think just looking at them on Amazon.  They are semi-open cans... not closed.  Not as good as AD700's or even Koss KSC75's, but good enough.

My primary complaint with the AX PRO's was the multi-driver configuration.  I found that I was placing sound cues based on which driver the cue came from.  With the DSS and the JVC's the cue actually sounds like it's in the environment.  The difference between "footstep came out of the back, lower driver... he's behind me" and "footsteps behind me... HE"S EFFING BEHIND ME!!!"
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 12:23 PM - 02/27/12
I got my HD 595s and I'm using it with the AUX port on my X41 base station and I already like it a lot better than the X41s. I ordered a DSS2 today.

I'm not sure if the AUX port on the base station of the X41 even does dolby surround sound. So that goes to show that TBs suck @#$%.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 12:46 PM - 02/27/12
I'd really appreciate your opinions on the audio technica ATH M50 headphones. I can get a really good deal on these but would just like to know if anyone has tried them and used them. I would be using them for gaming, movies and music. The reviews all look good.This is my first serious headphone purchase. I've been using standard crappy pc speakers and the Xbox headset so far. Lol.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:49 PM - 02/27/12
dunno about them but surely they will be much better than your pc speakers ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:51 PM - 02/27/12
M50's are closed and bass heavy.  Great for movies, good for music (depends on taste), and only ok for gaming.  Soundstage will be small compared to something like AD700's.  Od1n is right though, will be night and day compared to your pc speakers or TB/Tritton crap.
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Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 12:54 PM - 02/27/12
Thanks for that. I'm hoping to connect up to my sky hd box as well for movies and the new F1 season is in 5.1 as well. Cheers guys.

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Post by: mikael on 12:58 PM - 02/27/12
Hey,  tuffrabit.  You should really check out this thread on head fi about the Koss.  He describes a simple mod that makes their soundstage even bigger.  I don't have them myself but I have seen alot of your posts and how highly you speak of those cans so I'm starting to build interest towards them. Are they really that good?
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Post by: tuffrabit on 01:07 PM - 02/27/12
Thanks for that. I'm hoping to connect up to my sky hd box as well for movies and the new F1 season is in 5.1 as well. Cheers guys.

Enjoy those M50's.  They are great cans.  What Beats what to be when they grow up.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:08 PM - 02/27/12
Hey,  tuffrabit.  You should really check out this thread on head fi about the Koss.  He describes a simple mod that makes their soundstage even bigger.  I don't have them myself but I have seen alot of your posts and how highly you speak of those cans so I'm starting to build interest towards them. Are they really that good?

Link to thread?

Yes, they are that good.  Only reason I don't use them as my primary gaming headphone is because the ear clips are a bit uncomfortable and they leak sound big time.
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Post by: mikael on 01:15 PM - 02/27/12
gxc.google.com/gwt/x?hl=en&u=http://www.head-fi.org/t/124243/kramer-mod-ksc75&q=ksc75&ei=XdFLT5z3DYifiQLdsbTaDQ&sa=X&ct=res&resnum=11&ved=0CDUQFjAK lol sorry totally forgot :)
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Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 01:47 PM - 02/27/12
Tuffrabit, I could also get the dt 770 80ohm For the same price. what do you think vs the m50?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:49 PM - 02/27/12
I've never had the pleasure of the Beyerdynamics.  The way roads talks about them I'd say go for them over the M50's if your primary use is gaming.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 02:01 PM - 02/27/12
I've read this thread up and down (not every page tho, but many) and I'm still having some trouble deciding what I need.

What I want to do: Have sound from xbox, voice sent/received to xbox, and voice sent to the PC simultaneously.

However I don't want to spend too much money.

I was looking at the astro mixamp but it's $130!?!?! @#$%....
Looking to get a headset with a mic that won't pick up my "peck peck peck" on my keyboard or clicking of mouse when I play.
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Post by: Od1n on 02:10 PM - 02/27/12
Tuffrabit, I could also get the dt 770 80ohm For the same price. what do you think vs the m50?

i have it and i love it
its more of a game experience headphone rather than a positioning headphone as it has some bass and stuff
lets say its for people that like to dive into the gaming sound
ofc positioning is still good, but eg not as good as with a ad700 that barely has any bass
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:11 PM - 02/27/12
Get a DSS2, headphone, mic, headset buddy, cheap headphone amp, and a 3.5mm stereo splitter.


Tweaking the volume on the DSS2 along with the volume on the headphone amp is your "chat mixing".
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:15 PM - 02/27/12
I've read this thread up and down (not every page tho, but many) and I'm still having some trouble deciding what I need.

What I want to do: Have sound from xbox, voice sent/received to xbox, and voice sent to the PC simultaneously.

However I don't want to spend too much money.

I was looking at the astro mixamp but it's $130!?!?! @#$%....
Looking to get a headset with a mic that won't pick up my "peck peck peck" on my keyboard or clicking of mouse when I play.

ok here your custom fit:
(you are a guinea pig however lol)

- click click click issue:
either get a mechanical keyboard (haha, even more expensive^^) or get closed headphones
ofc first was a joke
something you can also consider is semi closed headphones, they should be fine as well for your click clack

some i can mention are eg the dt770 (its closed) and the k701 (semi closed)
basically any studio headphone will do as they are usually closed or semi closed

- chat & sound
get a dss2 with a fiio amp for 10-20$
the dss2 can mix two audio sources into each other, however unable to mix them separatly
thats what the fiio amp is for, you can mix the chatosund that way
problem: no one tested this so far but in theory it should work :P
grants you excellent audio with chat mixing


edit:
tuff was faster lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 02:21 PM - 02/27/12
thanks odin - but what do you mean by closed and semi-closed ?

also i already have a headset.. they plug into my contoller for the mic and a usb slot for power source. I use the EarForce XL1's - the $40 pair of turtle beaches. Is it possible I can buy the mixamp and still divert my microphone to the XBOX and the PC simultaneously with this headset? I know for a fact the mic on this set doesn't pick up my clicking since nobody on xbox complains, lmao
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Post by: Od1n on 02:25 PM - 02/27/12
uhmm wait you want your headset connected to the pc while its connected to the xbox?

this is only possible with the mixamp
(it allows you to hear pc and xbox and chatsound at once)

headphone and mic connected to mixamp

mixamp with usb into pc and install it
the mixamp acts like an external soundcard then, the whole pc sound goes through the usb into the mixamp
ofc with dobly encoding
you can also talk with the mic in ventrilo and teamspeak, all send back through usb

mixamp is connected with optical to xbox
that way you get the gamesound in dobly

mixamp connected to controller for chat sound & mixing

mixamp is the one with the best compability but the weakest sound



the stuff i wrote above is what i do, i talk through teamspeak with my friends while getting the gamesound from the xbox
in addition i can also talk on xbl as well
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 02:38 PM - 02/27/12
i don't need to hear both, i just need to speak to both and hear from xbox
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:52 PM - 02/27/12
with the mixamp you can speak to both with one mic (same setup as above)

i guess for streaming you ask this?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:59 PM - 02/27/12
i don't need to hear both, i just need to speak to both and hear from xbox

Oh... you want your voice going to your PC?  Not the chat coming from XBL?

In that case edit:

Get a DSS2, headphone, mic, headset buddy, and a cheap headphone amp.

  • Optical out from XBOX to DSS2
  • Headset buddy in controller
  • Mic to PC
  • PC out to pink end of headset buddy
  • Line from headset buddy to headphone amp then to AUX in on the DSS2.
  • Headphone in to DSS2.

Tweaking the volume on the DSS2 along with the volume on the headphone amp is your "chat mixing".

tuff was faster lol

NINJA!!!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 03:07 PM - 02/27/12
yes. i'd also like to do live commentary (recording)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 03:09 PM - 02/27/12
tuffrabit, this will allow me to send voice to XBL and PC, as well as hear voice/sounds from XBOX?

how much is DSS2, and can I use the DSS1 if it is cheaper?
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Post by: stetab on 03:11 PM - 02/27/12
tuffrabit, this will allow me to send voice to XBL and PC, as well as hear voice/sounds from XBOX?

how much is DSS2, and can I use the DSS1 if it is cheaper?

All you need is a 3.5mm splitter to send voice to both should cost a few bucks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 03:13 PM - 02/27/12
@stetab - how would I plug in the mic jack to the back of PC and the controller? would I also need another extension cord or something? what would it be called?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:15 PM - 02/27/12
tuffrabit, this will allow me to send voice to XBL and PC, as well as hear voice/sounds from XBOX?

Yes.  The configuration I posted has your voice signal going to your PC, to be recorded presumably, then out to your controller for the XBL kiddies to hear.  Whatever recording software you are using will need to allow you to monitor while recording for this to work.  Audacity does that...

how much is DSS2, and can I use the DSS1 if it is cheaper?

DSS2 is $80US.  You can use the DSS1 for this, only thing is you will have to jump through the same mixing hoops as I am to get chat mixing from XBL.  If that's not important to you then save the $$$ and get the DSS1.

@stetab - how would I plug in the mic jack to the back of PC and the controller? would I also need another extension cord or something? what would it be called?

Na... just run your mic to the 3.5mm MICROPHONE input on your PC.  Then run another 3.5mm line from the headphone out of your PC to the pink end of the headset buddy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:37 PM - 02/27/12
how come all you americans use mm like 3,5mm instead of inch or yards :P
oh wait, metric system  > stone age right? ;)


@ xog

id go with the dss2
less problems with mixing

to test out if you need mixing:
set chat audio play through speakers with volume 10 and see if its loud enough while shooting a gun
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 03:41 PM - 02/27/12
it's not. i've tried it before. i mean i can still hear, but it's not as good. that's why voice from xbox to stream from teammates is so low. the hd-pvr picks up the "speaker" sound.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 03:43 PM - 02/27/12
whoa something just occurred to me. would it be possible to route my microphone through my Hd-PVR input, then have its output into my controller for soudn to xbox!?!?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:44 PM - 02/27/12
i see

you could use the line in from your pc to connect it with the gamepad-chat sound + preamp
but oh well this is getting too complicated in the setup


id say do what ninja rabit says :)
he pretty much knows every possibility to get chatsound mixed with dss
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:49 PM - 02/27/12
You might be able to route it through the HD PVR.  Looking at images on Amazon of the unit... there is RCA audio IN/OUT.  You'd have to read your PVR manual to see if the unit will record from two different sources simultaneously though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 04:11 PM - 02/27/12
well, as of right now, I know for a fact that it atleast routes sound while recording simultaneously.

I currently have the sound go through the HD-PVR and into my headset.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:33 PM - 02/27/12
xog why dont you do it the following?
xbox setting -> play through both
that way its played through both (yeah, i could have saved on that sentence...)

your hd pvr is connected with the xbox through hd component cable
it gets the audio from the red and white cinch from the xbox

since you have the hd-av xbox cable, next to the 2 cinch theres the optical out
connect it with the dss through optical
(note: the xbox outputs sound through everything)
now since we ticked play through both, you can now mix the sound from gamepad with preamp into the dss2


and now if you want your viewers to hear chatsound better:
before the red and white cinch go into the hd pvr, you mix the chatsound into it with an additional mixer
(lol this is getting device intense)
ofc then you can also just use "play through headset" function





but lets wait for what ninja comes up, im sure its a lot less device intense as my thought lol
im sure you can realize it with less effort :)
go for it, rabit ;o
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:25 AM - 02/28/12
I'm just going off of the product image from Amazon:

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/hauppauge_B0018LX0DY-02-lg.jpg)

The following explaination assumes that the PVR can record audio from two different sources simultaneously.

I would run optical out from the XBOX to the PVR.  Then optical out from the PVR to the DSS2.  Then your mic to the PVR, via a 3.5mm to RCA adapter.  Then RCA out to the headset buddy, via a 3.5mm to RCA cable.

If the PVR doesn't support that configuration, then just use the PC like you were originally planning to do.  That way you don't have to buy a desk mixer.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Xog on 08:47 AM - 02/28/12
I think i'm just going to do this:

-plug XL1 headset's mic into PC.
-Enable "Listen to this device"
-Run a wire from headphone jack to controller.
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:52 AM - 02/28/12
how come all you americans use mm like 3,5mm instead of inch or yards :P
oh wait, metric system  > stone age right? ;)


@ xog

id go with the dss2
less problems with mixing

to test out if you need mixing:
set chat audio play through speakers with volume 10 and see if its loud enough while shooting a gun

1/8" and 1/4" I think are better than x,5mm :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:56 AM - 02/28/12
Lol, depends on what I'm talking about.  Guitar gear speak = 1/4" ... all other audio = metric system
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 02:50 PM - 02/28/12
Since others share alot of interesting stuff on here I thought Id share my HD 555 / 558 / 518 and PC 360 comfort mod with you guys, incase anyone is interested.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/597224/sennheiser-hd-555-518-558-and-pc-360-comfort-mod
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:31 PM - 02/28/12
where can i get that headband lol, the one i have could need a replacement sometime soon
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 06:48 PM - 02/28/12
Anyone ever try the Samson SR850? I have read in multiple forums that they are gosh darnit good for a headphone under the $100 mark. I also have read that some users prefer it over the AD700's for gaming. Can anyone add their 2 cents on this. I am still undecided on which headphone I wanna get.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 07:07 AM - 02/29/12
Well for the last couple of days i've finally been able to use all the parts of my new set up which replaces my axpro's.

1. dss2
2. labtec boom mic
3. jvc ha-rx700 ( temp )
4. steel series cross platform audio mixer, think i'm the first of us to try this product? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Now i picked up the jvc's as a temp measure until my hd 598 come into stock, and wouldn't you know it they've come into stock today so they'll be arriving tomorrow.

First impressions of the dss2 and jvc's WITHOUT the audio mixer.

Theres a noticable problem with hearing your party, especially with a few in there with different headsets and mic volumes. One thing i clearly noticed was when a team member spoke it would interupt the game sounds slight ie the game sound would drop in volume, i found this a little annoying as i didn't experience this with the axpro's, it was all consistent with them.

The second day of testing i was fortunate enough to have received in the post, again from the states, my cross platform mixer. As soon as this was included into the mix (excuse the pun) the sound was in my opinion better with regards to handling the chat and game sounds at the same time which i expected, theres still a very slight drop in game volume when chat is taking place but it's very very minor and not everyone may notice it; my friend, who's using the dss1 without an audio mixer, didn't notice the drop in volume his end until i mentioned it so it's dependant on the listener.

What has been mentioned before ref the spectrum audio mixer ie the hissing/interference that can be heard is present with the cross platform mixer also, but as people have said, it's only audible when it's silent ie no game sounds or chat so in game or when chatting you cannot hear it. I'm not sure if other equipment nearby may contribute to the problem or it's solely down to adding the product to the set up though.

The audio mixer i'm using is a really nice product though, it definately solves the problem we have when using the dss/dss2, i found the sound much better when using it. I also think it's a better product than the spectrum audio mixer too due to the user being able to connect it to the xbox, ps3 and a pc.

With regards to my impressions of the jvc's, i found them to be awesome for the price i paid, definately a step up from the axpro's. Everything is alot more tighter with regards to the sounds, positional cues take a bit to get used to when compared to a headset like the axpros which use multiple drivers to replicate the surround sound, your brain kinda gets used to the way you hear things so it takes a little while in game for yourself to adjust but when you do it's a definite improvement and like tuff said, when an enemy is behind you, you definitely know it!!!! lol.

I also found that with this set up it replicates distance too to a certain degree, what i mean is if there's a frag explosion at another area of the map you can tell which direction it came from and that it was in the distance, with the axpro's those sounds i found to be very similar to each other, whether very close or just nearby, so you were never sure exactly how far away it went off and the actual explosion sounds sounded fairly similar to each other too with the axpro's, now theres a clear difference in the sound.

After using the jvc's for a day i decided to mod them, the ear cups that is. I used a lenght of firm 6mm diameter vacuum hose joined end to end into a ring which was slightly smaller than the ear cup padding, i then wrapped the newly formed ring in some 8mm thick foam, i did it this way so the end product was more uniform than the usual "cut out foam ring" and it also meant when i pushed it into place i could manipulate it and it'll stay in my chosen shape due to the inner tubing "spine".

The sound of the jvc's were improved even further with the mod, especially positionally due to the drivers being further from your ears.

All in all i'm definitely happy with my new set up, i can't wait until i get my Sennheisers through the post, i'm going to spend some more time with the jvc's though so i can do a true comparison.

Sorry for the long post but i thought some people may find it helpful, any questions or requests feel free to post up.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:29 AM - 02/29/12
the drop in volume is a live mix function, the steelseries mixer definitely has it, the dss2 may have it
see here at the second page
http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-cross-platform-audiomixer

maybe search for a knob on the dss2
or plug it into the pc and see what configurations it offers
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 07:50 AM - 02/29/12
Theres no function on the dss2 itself, my comment on the game volume drop during chat was without the mixer attached, just the dss2, headphones and mic. My friend who uses the dss1 has noticed the slight drop too now but only after i mentioned it and he listened out for it.

Now i have the audio mixer attached there isn't a drop at all when the chat sounds come through, it's now more like the axpro set up i used before ie the sounds are consistent. I haven't even switched on the ivemix feature yet, haven't felt the need to, i just manually set it up with the two seperate scroll wheels on the side of the unit.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:17 AM - 02/29/12
if its annyoing, plug it into the pc and install it as an external soundcard
then you can customize it, im sure this function can be done there as well
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:07 AM - 02/29/12
Glad you like it Spinal.  What game are you playing mostly?  I'll be interested to hear your comparison of the JVC's to your Senn's.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 01:16 PM - 02/29/12
Can you use a dss connected to a sky hd box or other digital receiver via the digital optical cable for better sound rather than using the headphone socket on my 5.1 surround sound system. I don't know if the headphone socket would output 5.1 where as I know dss emulates it well. any help appreciated.

Would I be better off getting a fiio e7 or other headphone amp. I assume the sound would just be in stereo.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:45 PM - 02/29/12
yes you can use the dss over optical with other receivers like sky box
and yes you got dolby encoding then

the fiio is only needed when your headphone needs lots of power
usually headphones with low impendance (less than 100) dont need an amp
however there are exceptions like the akg k701 with 63 ohm that still needs an amp

but in general the sound is played a bit nicer with an amp, but not necessarily needed
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:02 AM - 03/01/12
I guess this post was overlooked so i am gonna post it again. Anyone here ever try the Samson SR850? I have read in multiple forums that they are gosh darnit good for a headphone under the $100 mark. I also have read that some users prefer it over the AD700's for gaming. Can anyone add their 2 cents to this.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 05:32 AM - 03/01/12
Glad you like it Spinal.  What game are you playing mostly?  I'll be interested to hear your comparison of the JVC's to your Senn's.

Hi Tuff,

I pretty much only play mw3 currently, i know people have said the sound track of mw3 is a bit poor compared to other games, black ops for instance is much better i have noticed, i want to try it on other games also, i've got battlefield 3 and the other cod's so when i have the time i'll pop them in to test.

My Sennheisers arrived first thing this morning, first impressions of the hd 598 in one word.....QUALITY.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 05:46 AM - 03/01/12
Under 100?   ...

 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s88/amakrakis/41279.jpg)

 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s88/amakrakis/4473862054_68cdc80265.jpg)

Sony mdr 7506... They are closed but excellent.. A lot better than higher priced cans.

Plus they say proffessional on the sides  :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:22 AM - 03/01/12
Spinal... pop in BF3.  If you are used to COD it will blow your mind fella.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:38 AM - 03/01/12
yeah the sound quality between bf3 and mw3 is like decent headphone to ipod earplugs
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 01:56 PM - 03/01/12
I guess this post was overlooked so i am gonna post it again. Anyone here ever try the Samson SR850? I have read in multiple forums that they are gosh darnit good for a headphone under the $100 mark. I also have read that some users prefer it over the AD700's for gaming. Can anyone add their 2 cents to this.

well, I just read up on these for the last 20 mins or so, and from what I read on head-fi and amazon, these are a great headphone for the price.  Soundstage is supposedly very good (said it's comparable to the AD700s), but much better bass than the AD700s without getting too boomy.  after burn in, they are supposed to also have very good highs with very linear response.  for $55, it would be hard to go wrong. 

So I ordered a pair to try them out.  I currently have AD700s, so I can compare directly to those.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 02:44 PM - 03/01/12
Test out my HD 595s with the DSS2 and immediately heard a difference from it being plugged into the base station of the X41. I got my 595s used (btw, anyone have a good link on how to clean it - it's not dirty, but I'd rather clean it anyway) so I'm guessing they are at least somewhat burned in. Directional sound is so much better than the X41s, especially now with the DSS2, bass is great and not too "boomy." I'm loving these things.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:10 PM - 03/01/12
When you receive this give us an update in comparison with the AD700. I was very curious after I read on the forums you mention and then some. I was so close to clicking buy it now/add to cart but I really wanted to get some more feedback on it. To bad I can't find some locally so I can really test them and experience it for myself after so many praises in reference to it. I ended up ordering the PC360 only because it already had a mic. I wouldn't mind however spending an extra $50-60 for the SR850. I can use for my itouch if it doesn't meet my expectations for gaming.

 
I guess this post was overlooked so i am gonna post it again. Anyone here ever try the Samson SR850? I have read in multiple forums that they are gosh darnit good for a headphone under the $100 mark. I also have read that some users prefer it over the AD700's for gaming. Can anyone add their 2 cents to this.

well, I just read up on these for the last 20 mins or so, and from what I read on head-fi and amazon, these are a great headphone for the price.  Soundstage is supposedly very good (said it's comparable to the AD700s), but much better bass than the AD700s without getting too boomy.  after burn in, they are supposed to also have very good highs with very linear response.  for $55, it would be hard to go wrong. 

So I ordered a pair to try them out.  I currently have AD700s, so I can compare directly to those.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 09:14 AM - 03/02/12
After hours of research and decision making I've just picked up a new pair of hd598s. Tried them at the store, he put on nirvana at MTV unplugged.blown away. Amazing clarity. Dss comes tomorrow. I have no real basis for comparison but I'm well happy paying the extra money To get these. Thanks for all the people that contributed on this message board. I had no idea wha i was looking or any knowledege on this subject but this forum helped a lot.

@#$% kids better not get hold of these . Lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 09:50 AM - 03/02/12
Captain- you best to believe, its top notch even without comparison. No Turtlebeach/Astro/Tritton and whatnot can come close to these, and the gimmick with 7.1 or 5.1 etc is just marketing bs. Heck Id even buy used HD555 or 595 any time over new TBs or AD700s.

The positional audio for games is also excellent on Sennheisers Hifi cans. The 558/598 have slightly more bass than 555/595. But theyre still good. Id recommend 555/595 though if someone plans to game more with them, but theyre not beeing produced anymore.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 12:33 PM - 03/02/12
Captain, where did you end up buying yours???? was it richer sounds by any chance, how much did they set you back in store?????

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 02:18 PM - 03/02/12
I got them from a place in Peterborough called Analogue seduction. £199. I know I could have probably got them cheaper online but I like to try things first and I enjoyed the experience of buying them as well as the staff were brilliant. I tried a few different types. I think what I paid was pretty much a uk retail standard. I've been listening to music on them tonight and I can't rate these highly enough. Superb quality. Can't wait till my dss comes tomorrow.

Will let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 05:46 PM - 03/02/12
Yeah I got my hd 598 yesterday from scan computers for £161 delivered. got them rigged up to my dss2 and wow.

Also they are the most comfy things I have had the pleasure to rest on my head.......not including big boobies lol.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:50 PM - 03/02/12
so for all the curious people out there, how would YOU describe the difference to your former a40 (i think) and the sennheiser + dss ;)


(i guess this topic is one of the very few gaming related ones that dont recommend gaming headsets)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 08:24 PM - 03/02/12
Yeah I got my hd 598 yesterday from scan computers for £161 delivered. got them rigged up to my dss2 and wow.

Also they are the most comfy things I have had the pleasure to rest on my head.......not including big boobies lol.

Dave.

Yes very comfy indeed. British manufactured Big boobies also highly recommended, best in the world.



so for all the curious people out there, how would YOU describe the difference to your former a40 (i think) and the sennheiser + dss ;)


(i guess this topic is one of the very few gaming related ones that dont recommend gaming headsets)

I'm coming from £9.99 old pc speakers and the nhs style xbox standard headset, so it's like going from Hillary Clinton to Megan fox. If only... Shhhhhh don't tell the wife.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 11:01 PM - 03/02/12
I wonder how much money this thread has made turtle beach :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:00 AM - 03/03/12
as a tidbit, im sure most of you guys know this but any nubbs browsing for a good gaming headset...

     your bass respose will inversely effect your soundstage. This is why mostly open cans are recommended for gaming. the more bass response you have the more omnidirectional your cans become thus reducing positional cues.

     bass waves are so large its hard to determine direction and the closed can design amplifies this by increasing amplitude of bass wave reflection, also hi end reflection but bass waves are just stronger.

I prefer closed cans even for gaming but thats just because ive spent years in a studio and i know the signals headphones send me... plus i likes a little @#$%.  :P

So nothing new just felt like that should be explained here since it gets so much @#$%.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:51 AM - 03/03/12
yes i agree amak :)

i use a dt770 pro and it has tons of bass
but i prefer some bass over prefect tracking as some shaking explsions in your ears make the game even more enjoyable ;)

also im thinking about getting a akg k701
its pretty similar to an ad700 with very low bass, only difference is that the k701 a lot better
from the reviews i read so far it seems to have the biggest soundstage of all headphones under 500$
only letdown is that its more of a pure gaming headphone, the lack of bass makes rock, metal or other music sound very bad and weak (unless you listen to jazz, vocal or classic)
but thats what i have the dt770 for
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 06:57 AM - 03/03/12
You wont like the akg Odin. Amazon -> Odin -> Amazon.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:11 AM - 03/03/12
why roads?

id like to have your oppinion if you dont mind
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:21 AM - 03/03/12
They sound too weak too sharp reminded me of the ad700, no warmth. We listened to some classic music with my wife and compared them to the 598. The Senns you felt like sitting in first row of theathre before stage, with the AKG last row far away. Wife pointed to AKG and said send em back. I agreed.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:37 AM - 03/03/12
yeah thats my experience as well
but thats what i target for, id like to have a headphone for multiplayer so to say
ofc ill keep my dt770 which i plan to use for movies and music, basically the stuff the akg k701 doesnt do that good

here a small impression i had lately


i was in a quite big music store in karsruhe near some relatives of mine about a week ago
headphones ive tested where mainly:

-dt770 pro for reference to what i currently have
Then I always took a different one for comparison

then
-akg k701
-akg k702/q 701 (basically the same just better look + detachable wires and stuff)
-hd650
-hd598
-denon d2000
-beyer dt880
-beyer dt990
and some others that arent worth to mention lol

ive listended to the very same songs with all of the headphones
ofc the setup they had there at the store was brilliant, so my dt770 already sounded better than at home haha

also they run a 5.1 position demotape such like the ones you know from your soundcard when adjusting the satellites
(I picked the 5.1 for gaming reference)

basically i was able to put all those headphones into 3 cathegories

- the hd650 group:
lots of bass, excellent for music such like rock and metal
very dark soundstage
but man this headphone sucks in soundstage, really
had the smallest soundstage out of all, slightly more than my dt770
but for movies and music this headphone is by far the first choice!
(not for cassic, jazz and vocal though)

- the dt group:
they re the sweet middle spot so to say
medium bass level (880 more than 990) with more soundstage
the hd598 also falls into this cathegory
the weaker and higher bass compared to the hd650 already gave a noticeable gain in the positiontape

-the akg group:
the bass was rather weak but in exchange you get a soundstage that blows your breath away
the music played in that phones are not as close to you as in the other headphones, they seem to be a bit away
like in all the other headphones the music is eg 1m away from you but in the akg its 5m away
at least it seems like that
this gave me a tracking that was a huge step forward compared to the other headphones
you feel like in a big theatre compared to a small rehearsal room with the other headphones
the sound was extremly sharp which resulted in you being able to pinpoint the direction
with the other headphones you where only able to say eg sound comes from 30-60° but with the akg it was more like 40-45°

but I need to mention that this headphone doesn’t sound that nice in music or movie
it pushes the mids and highs quite a lot, so bassy songs sound a bit unnatural
so its save to say that they are similar to the ad700, very low bass and stuff
yet they are a huge improvement to the ad700

i had a very informative and clever assissten next to me
he told me that when i want more bass with the akg i can buy different plates for the cups that create lots of more bass
he showed be some, basically cups from different headphones that also fit into the akg
(in every better headphone there are lots of plates infront of the driver, eg one for keeping dust away)
also i will need an amp he told me, they have a low impendance but still need lots of power
they arent headphones that benefit hugely from amps so he adviced me to not spend lots of money for one


also the last few days ive read some reviews on head fi
mostly hd650-dt880-akg k701 comparisons
pretty much any review came to the same conclusion
for entertaining hd650
for regular music dt880
for gaming and classic akg701 



edit:

i also tested a hd800 for fun and the most expensive headphone they had
was a sony qualia 10 or something for about 3000€
well they played in a total different league... xD
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 07:54 AM - 03/03/12
Not worth the coin imo.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:55 AM - 03/03/12
yeah i understand you

i guess ill just do it the silent way, order all my favorites from amazon and keep the one that suits the most :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:00 AM - 03/03/12
It really comes down to how many Headphones you want to have lying around, how much you want to spend and mostly what you like. Even when gaming I have no fun with non-dynamic headphones. I don't like headphones sound unnatural. It wakes me up from an immersive game, like jitters don't let me enjoy a movie.
Yes Amazon them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 08:05 AM - 03/03/12
i have 2x hd650. There isnt lots of bass tbh. The 598 have more noticable bass even.

Its just that the DT880 actually LACKS bass. Its really too weak. And it shrills out the highs. The 650 has the most natural and balanced bass and overall sound. I would take a HD650 for regular music any time over a DT880, which I had here and sent back, the 600 Ohm version. Even HD600 sounds more natural and warm to me. Also the 880 has the effect that multiple musical instruments sound slobberish, kinda like mish mash- because of the wide soundstage, but at the same time lacking bass and shrilling highs.

Anyways, everyone should compare personally. Ive had many cans at home and tested in all kind of scenarios. And imo HD600/650 are the best for gaming/music/movies. Also in terms of comfort no cans can touch the 650.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:11 AM - 03/03/12
HD650s I would try immediately if I could use open cans.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:21 AM - 03/03/12
oh year forgot about the comfort
the hd650 was really briliant in that way, also the denon d2000 was awesome (a bit better tbh)

but for gaming i wouldnt choose the hd650, there are cans that do this job better for less money
the hd650 changes the sound quite a lot, it becomes really dark
its for good for entertaining but not for 1:1 sound replay (sound feels like its filtered a bit)
you can also find this statement from other reviewers, they call it "dark effect" (teppich effekt in german forums)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 08:24 AM - 03/03/12
depending on how loud you listen, it actually doesnt leak that much sound outside.  Lets say a tv with normal volume level in the evening will be much louder than 650s. But if no tv is running or radio, its noticable ofcourse.

The only place I could find anything like that was on hifi forums which tbh... no comment. Read what ppl who actually have a clue post on head-fi. The are ppl who call the sound of the 650 "Veiled" which it might be slightly if youre used to shrill highs from cans like 701s and some beyers.

However its a matter of taste at the end. But Ive never seen ppl do super fast 120-180° turnarounds like I use to do them. Ok its also skill based, but there is no footstep sound I cant locate precisely and hear clearly.

I have an AD700 here which is rumoured to be one of the best gaming headphones right? But it collects dust here, I find the sound happens on the outside with AD700 rather than in the head as with 650s. The 700s are beast in its price range and better than any TBs etc. But that is basically it. I wasnt as succesfull with the AD700. Same with the mouse, If I had to play with any other mouse than the combination im using, Id play 40% worse  than I do now. Because the mouse Im using gives me the best precision and control. Its not too light and not too heavy, it doesnt glide too fast and not too slow on the mousepad.

Also I found the oval earcups better than round earcups, as a side note. So I found Sennheisers 555/598 and 6xx better than DT880s and AD700 earcups (which are imo oversized). As an addition to the comfort discussion.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 09:56 AM - 03/03/12
What mouse are you using Souver?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 10:22 AM - 03/03/12
logitech mx310 and roccat arvo kb.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:24 PM - 03/03/12
Just got my PC360 today and tested it right away. I am impressed actually. I tried with the PC360 with the  DSS and the mixamp. The mixamp after comparing to the DSS is much louder. I had to turn up the DSS volume output almost to its max just to get a good feel of the sounds in the game (the headset volume control was at it's max too). Then on the mix amp volume was at the midpoint while the headset volume was at max. I prefer the mixamp in the end. Overall the quality was good on the PC360. After using the TB DX11 w/ DSS, TB x31 and 32 with DSS, A40's with mixamp /DSS, Skullcandy Hesh with DSS/mixamp (yup I went there) then finally the PC360. The clear cut winner was the PC360. I am glad I got them but I know there is a better one out there so in the meantime I am gonna go with this until I have some flow and purchase the HD598. Only thing I need to figure out is how to use chat with this. Mic plug is bit big to fit in the xbox controller. Anyone know a workaround?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:26 PM - 03/03/12
The controller plugs into the mixamp. The headset goes into the splitter thing that turns 2 plugs into 1 4 pole plug which goes into the mixamp. I would suggest looking up a setup vid on YouTube if you don't get it from that crap explanation
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:53 PM - 03/03/12
I think I might have misplaced the adapter you talk about. Where can I buy that and what is it called anyway besides y adapter.

The controller plugs into the mixamp. The headset goes into the splitter thing that turns 2 plugs into 1 4 pole plug which goes into the mixamp. I would suggest looking up a setup vid on YouTube if you don't get it from that crap explanation
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:09 PM - 03/03/12
Astro website, maybe elsewhere. I'll link you when I get home if I find anything
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:16 PM - 03/03/12
http://www.astrogaming.com/3rd-party-headset-y-adapter-pkg-d

maybe search again, every mixamp comes with this adapter
you can also get a cheap one for less than a dollar if you like to
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 05:33 AM - 03/04/12
Right now I have an optical to Astro MixAmp and that's outputting to my Klipsch S4 in-ear headphones and connected to a Zalman Zm-mic1.

I do think I'm not able to hear as much due to the headphones not being up to par. Lying around I have a pair of Sennheiser HD428 : http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD428-Closed-Circumaural-Headphone/dp/B002DGTGNG

Do you think I should get the A40 headset?

I also have the Turtle Beach X31 headset which I used for MW2: http://www.amazon.com/Force-Digital-Wireless-Audio-Xbox-360/dp/B002KSPL36 but I didn't like it because everyone else in my house could hear me playing, so I bought the mixamp to use my own in-ear headphones. But now I can't hear the same things everyone else is hearing, which does suck. Even the 428s don't sound like everything is completely different, which is the sensation many people describe happens when you get a good pair of headphones connected...

I personally don't think it's going to be worth it but wanted to know what you guys thought.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:38 AM - 03/04/12
you probably wont find just any person in that topic that recommends an astro gaming headset

what you have to get is a closed headphone so no one in your household years your audio
also you will ofc hear everything with that setup

also your sennheiser is already 2-3 times better than the astro gaming headset
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 05:44 AM - 03/04/12
Hmm ok thanks...I'll try playing more with my hd428s o
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 01:10 PM - 03/04/12
http://www.astrogaming.com/3rd-party-headset-y-adapter-pkg-d

maybe search again, every mixamp comes with this adapter
you can also get a cheap one for less than a dollar if you like to

I don't have this adapter unfortunately but I did use a 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter. Plugged the PC360 mic line to the xbox controller but this doesn't work(well sort of because my party can't hear me but I can hear them). I was wondering how that adapter you linked me to is gonna work for chat because it looks like you plug both headset and mic onto the Y adapter then the Y adapter to the mixamp. Doesn't the mic need to be plugged into the xbox controller though to get chat?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:27 PM - 03/04/12
no the mixamp handles the stuff, it reads the mic input and gives you the sound output
next to the mixamp headphone plug theres the controller plug thats connected with the controller


the reason why your adapter doesnt work is that chatsound + mic is positioned at the controller, with your cable you took the chatsound but thats it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 08:03 PM - 03/04/12
no the mixamp handles the stuff, it reads the mic input and gives you the sound output
next to the mixamp headphone plug theres the controller plug thats connected with the controller


the reason why your adapter doesnt work is that chatsound + mic is positioned at the controller, with your cable you took the chatsound but thats it

So the headset and mic plug connects into the mixamp headset port  via Y  adapter and another plug connects to the controller port of the mixamp to the xbox controller?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:01 AM - 03/05/12
yes

theres a sheet that comes with the mixamp that shows all possible ways to connect it with the xbox
the way we talked about is also pictured
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 10:54 AM - 03/05/12
CaptainBiscuit, how did it go with your new setup? Are you satisfied? Im also interested in this setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:52 PM - 03/06/12
Hey guys is this a good headset to buy???

http://goo.gl/XU9xh
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: spinal_chord on 05:24 AM - 03/07/12
Right then, had a few days of testing my final set up:

1. Sennheiser hd598
2. Tb Dss2
3. Labtec boom mic
4. Steel series cross platform audio mixer

This it the absolute dogs danglys, the hd598 in all ways are better than the jvc's i bought to test, whether they're £140 better i don't know but i wanted the best set up i could afford so i had my heart set on the hd598's and i'm not dissapointed so far, my only gripe is the interference sound i'm getting, now i'm starting to think some of it could be caused by all my devices being close together, what are your thoughts on this guys????

I've got my xim3, router, dss2 etc all on my desk, when i first turn the xbox on i can here the beeping from the control pad when it's light is flashing green and when i'm in a silent enviroment i can hear a faint whine which i believe is the control pad, maybe i'm wrong, but it's the same as the beeping sound but continuous and it coincides with the green light being fully illuminated. It's a little annoying if i'm honest so if i can do something to get rid of it i'll give it a try, would ferrite cores be good to use on any of the cables either the controller or the xim3.....or even the dss2 if that would help?????

I just want it perfect, during gaming, music or videos it can't be heard but i know it's there so want rid really.

Thanks to all the people who helped me realise that an off the shelf solution isn't the best and for all the advice i was given.

Dave.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 10:43 AM - 03/07/12
Hey guys is this a good headset to buy???

http://goo.gl/XU9xh

nice, a modded pair of AD700s.  Those are very good headphones for the price, as long as you understand their shortcomings, which may or may not affect you much if you only use them for gaming.  They have a big sound stage, great mids and highs, but not much bass.   Good for games, but not great for movies, and music, unless you have an EQ, which helps, but still won't give them the deep bass that other headphones have.

That said, I have a pair of these I only use for xbox, and I like them a lot.  They are very very comfortable, and sound great hooked up to the mixamp.  Though $150 used may be a bit high, not sure what the current prices of them are unmodded.  If it were brand new, it would be a killer price though.   Though they are still not bad compared to what else you can get for $150, but maybe someone else can chime in here, so maybe you should buy-it-now.

I have a set of the Samsons on the way (hopefully they get here this week), which are supposed to be another really good "cheap" headphone.  so if you might want to wait a few more days before bidding on these.  But keep them on your watch list.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Choochoo on 11:21 AM - 03/07/12
Right then, had a few days of testing my final set up:

1. Sennheiser hd598
2. Tb Dss2
3. Labtec boom mic
4. Steel series cross platform audio mixer

This it the absolute dogs danglys, the hd598 in all ways are better than the jvc's i bought to test, whether they're £140 better i don't know but i wanted the best set up i could afford so i had my heart set on the hd598's and i'm not dissapointed so far, my only gripe is the interference sound i'm getting, now i'm starting to think some of it could be caused by all my devices being close together, what are your thoughts on this guys????

I've got my xim3, router, dss2 etc all on my desk, when i first turn the xbox on i can here the beeping from the control pad when it's light is flashing green and when i'm in a silent enviroment i can hear a faint whine which i believe is the control pad, maybe i'm wrong, but it's the same as the beeping sound but continuous and it coincides with the green light being fully illuminated. It's a little annoying if i'm honest so if i can do something to get rid of it i'll give it a try, would ferrite cores be good to use on any of the cables either the controller or the xim3.....or even the dss2 if that would help?????

I just want it perfect, during gaming, music or videos it can't be heard but i know it's there so want rid really.

Thanks to all the people who helped me realise that an off the shelf solution isn't the best and for all the advice i was given.

Dave.

Yeah I couldn't handle the buzzing/hissing sound from the "Steel series cross platform audio mixer", i had them for about an hour before I wanted to die, I returned them and just put a basic xbox live headset around my neck and called it good.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 11:56 AM - 03/07/12
They are currently over 100 new on amazon, don't know if that's the cheapest place to get them
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:58 AM - 03/07/12
stetab i guess theres no correlation to the ebay user stephantfw and your mw3 pc account stephan eh? :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 02:07 PM - 03/07/12
lololol i dont know what you are talking aboot
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 03:25 PM - 03/07/12
Hey guys is this a good headset to buy???

http://goo.gl/XU9xh
I can chime in on those cause I just recently bought them myself, they're a excellent competitive gaming headphone- I can hear everything specially with sitrep pro, but lack bass for single player campaign gaming fun immersion. I love em cause all I play is fps, I play for 3-4 hours straight with no comfort issues at all. If those are new with that mod that's a good price cause that's what it cost me for new ones with the modmic to go with it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:31 PM - 03/07/12
gotcha you can buy a headphone amp which will increase the bass level of the ad700 a lot
not compareable to that cheap bass boost you know from the dss for example
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 05:25 PM - 03/07/12
Any recommendations on a inexpensive headphone amp?  Also, has any1 tried the fischer audio oo3 headphones for gaming?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 06:03 PM - 03/07/12
I just got the samsons delivered at work.  First impressions - looks/materials aren't really blowing me away, but I guess you can't expect much from a $55 pair of 'phones.  The headband and earpads feel really cheap, but the earpads do come off easily, so at least you can upgrade them. 

Also, clamping force is a lot tighter than the AD700s (and I have a skinny melon too).  Though it looks like you can stretch the wires out pretty easily.  The cable is rubber and has gold plated plugs, and the 1/4" plug has threads and actually screws onto the 3.5mm plug which is a nice touch.

Soundwise, I can't tell yet, as I only have a pc with onboard sound here, but when I get home, I can compare them directly to my AD700s.  But so far, I can tell the AD700s are way more comfortable.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:14 PM - 03/07/12
gonna wait for your review three :)
maybe thats the new budget reference then



@ gotcha

define inexpensive ;)
a usefull amp starts at about 100-200$, for 150-200$ you already get some proper stuff that is worth it
its not cheap indeed

but if its just about the bass you seek for, a fiio portable amp with bass boost is the budget buy
its not the tightest bass though but surely makes a big difference
(costs about 20-50$ depending on the model)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:30 PM - 03/07/12
I just got the samsons delivered at work.  First impressions - looks/materials aren't really blowing me away, but I guess you can't expect much from a $55 pair of 'phones.  The headband and earpads feel really cheap, but the earpads do come off easily, so at least you can upgrade them. 

Also, clamping force is a lot tighter than the AD700s (and I have a skinny melon too).  Though it looks like you can stretch the wires out pretty easily.  The cable is rubber and has gold plated plugs, and the 1/4" plug has threads and actually screws onto the 3.5mm plug which is a nice touch.

Soundwise, I can't tell yet, as I only have a pc with onboard sound here, but when I get home, I can compare them directly to my AD700s.  But so far, I can tell the AD700s are way more comfortable.

Yes please let us know ASAP. I am dieing to read your review as I have been looking into this for two weeks. I have this on my ebay watch list LOL.


Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 12:18 AM - 03/08/12
ok, spent some time with the Samson SR850 and AD700s back to back.  The AD700s are about a year old, so they've been burned in, etc.

Anyway, first listening tests on some MP3s.  The two headphones do sound really similar.. On various songs, you could hear the mids and highs being a little better on the AD700s.  Sometimes, the highs sounded a bit shrill when compared to the samsons.

The samsons have *almost* as good midrange and highs as teh AD700s. there is just that little bit more clarity and detail on the AD700s, especially the mids as they really pick up vocals well, and make voices sound very life-like.

That said, I can't say the samsons are very far behind the AD700s in mids and highs, they are pretty close.  Unless you listened to them back to back, I'm not sure you'd be able to tell much difference.  But there is just a little extra "sparkle" on the AD700s.

The Bass on the Samsons is definitely better than the AD700s - it's not going to blow you away, but it's more full.  you hear a lot more detail in the kick drums, and the mid bass is also more present than on the AD700s.  it's not boomy at all, but I didn't mess with the EQ much either.  You do need a bit more volume on the Samsons to make them sound as loud as the AD700s, but not much.

So IMO, the two headphones are pretty close in their sound.  The AD700s have a little edge in clarity, and slightly better mids, and highs..  Though the samsons have better low end and bass.

Also the AD700s are twice as much as the samsons, but definitely not twice as good.  That is saying a lot for the ~$55 Samsons.  Just to be sure that I wasn't imagining things, I put on my old crappy PC headset I got for like $15.  It sounded like crap compared to these two other headphones, lol.

I played a little bit of MW3 with both headphones, and Most of the same holds true.  The AD700s seem brighter, with the samsons giving you a bit more bass and little darker sound.  Not a night and day difference, but it's noticeable right after you switch headphones.  Not sure I'd notice much otherwise.

One thing that is noticeable is the comfort of the AD700s.  You hardly notice they are on at all.  The samsons are tight and clamp your head.  I stretched out the headband wire, and it made them a lot better.  Also the earpads kinda suck on the samsons.  they are stiff and plasticy.  But the AD700 earpads actually fit just fine, so that would be a good mod to do on them. 

I read that the samsons improve with burn-in, so I'll try to do another comparo after a few weeks.


(http://threewheeling.f0e.net/photos/samson/IMG_0892.JPG)

(http://threewheeling.f0e.net/photos/samson/IMG_0893.JPG)

(http://threewheeling.f0e.net/photos/samson/IMG_0897.JPG)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:30 AM - 03/08/12
nice read, they dont look as bad as you described ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 09:26 AM - 03/08/12
define inexpensive ;)
a usefull amp starts at about 100-200$, for 150-200$ you already get some proper stuff that is worth it
its not cheap indeed

but if its just about the bass you seek for, a fiio portable amp with bass boost is the budget buy
its not the tightest bass though but surely makes a big difference
(costs about 20-50$ depending on the model)

I just bought the hd 598 and im liking them alot. Im using them together with the TB DSS. Would you say that the fiio amp will make the bass more powerful for me? And if so, how do I connect the fiio amp together with the TB DSS? Is it just between the TB DSS and the headphones?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 09:50 AM - 03/08/12
nice read, they dont look as bad as you described ;)

True, the actual cans on the samsons do look nice.. but the big difference you'll notice is the quality of the earpads and the headband.  They are pretty cheap materials (plastic/vinyl), but at half the price of the AD700s, that is to be expected.  And the ear pads can be easily upgraded, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.   I just need to find out where I can buy some nice earpads!

I also forgot to mention that I played MW3 through a mixamp, which is known to lack bass.  I'll hook up my yamaha receiver to the xbox, and give the headphones another listen.   I have a clip-on mic I was also going to try, but when I wasn't looking, my cat stole it off my desk and chewed up the wire  D-:   Good thing it was only $2 lol.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:00 AM - 03/08/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 10:07 AM - 03/08/12
Good review threewheels. Considering that there is a slight difference in audio quality between the Samson and AD700 in exception of its build quality. I think I may just get these. I found some for less than $50 shipped so a great deal like that shouldn't be missed.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:14 AM - 03/08/12
define inexpensive ;)
a usefull amp starts at about 100-200$, for 150-200$ you already get some proper stuff that is worth it
its not cheap indeed

but if its just about the bass you seek for, a fiio portable amp with bass boost is the budget buy
its not the tightest bass though but surely makes a big difference
(costs about 20-50$ depending on the model)

I just bought the hd 598 and im liking them alot. Im using them together with the TB DSS. Would you say that the fiio amp will make the bass more powerful for me? And if so, how do I connect the fiio amp together with the TB DSS? Is it just between the TB DSS and the headphones?

yes it goes between the dss and the headphone
the dss has a bass boost function doesnt it?
anyways yes with a portale fiio amp you get more boost

just pay attention that it has this function and get the one that suits you the most
(there are about 4-5 portable amps from fiio, all 10-50$ or so)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 12:14 PM - 03/08/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low

wow, didn't know that.  will definitely try that tonight!

Good review threewheels. Considering that there is a slight difference in audio quality between the Samson and AD700 in exception of its build quality. I think I may just get these. I found some for less than $50 shipped so a great deal like that shouldn't be missed.

For the price, I'm pretty impressed.  I am trying to find out if the woven cloth earpads from any of the turtle beach headphones fit, as they are only $2 each.   Also discovered that the velour earpads for the beyerdynamics 770 fit, but they are about $30.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 01:21 PM - 03/08/12
Quote
yes it goes between the dss and the headphone
the dss has a bass boost function doesnt it?
anyways yes with a portale fiio amp you get more boost

Yeah, I have cranked the bass boost to max on the DSS but its a bit weak in some games still. And I must say that the sound in MW3 is @#$% weak with the HD 598 + DSS. Gonna try out the Fiio I think. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: CaptainBiscuit on 03:52 PM - 03/08/12
Had my hd598 nearly a week now. These things are marvellous.  Sound in mw3 is sublime through the dss. Best thing I ever bought apart from xim. Movies and music are also amazing. Enjoying them!! ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:12 PM - 03/08/12
so did we prevent you from buying a gaming headset? ;)

if so, mission accomplished :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lc505 on 07:51 PM - 03/08/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low

wow, didn't know that.  will definitely try that tonight!

Just tried this and permanently lost Xbox Live chat through my Mixamp  :o
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 11:05 PM - 03/08/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low

wow, didn't know that.  will definitely try that tonight!

Just tried this and permanently lost Xbox Live chat through my Mixamp  :o

yes, if you let your pc set the mixamp as the "default" listening device, it will get all input from the USB, and you lose your mixing function.  You have to select your old soundcard, and set that as default, so the mixamp only sees power from the USB.  That should keep your chat working.

Also, I found the "advanced" tab which has some DSP settings including Bass Boost.  The Bass Boost works, but it cuts down the mids and highs as it boosts the bass, so I turned it back off, as it sounded better without it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 08:01 AM - 03/09/12
I bought the Fiio E5 Headphone Amplifier today and tried it out together with the DSS + HD598 and im actually impressed with the Fiio. It made quite a diffrence, very noticable in MW3. The sound feels more "filled". I was abit worried about unbareable hissing, but I sure cant hear it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:33 AM - 03/09/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low

wow, didn't know that.  will definitely try that tonight!

Just tried this and permanently lost Xbox Live chat through my Mixamp  :o

yes, if you let your pc set the mixamp as the "default" listening device, it will get all input from the USB, and you lose your mixing function.  You have to select your old soundcard, and set that as default, so the mixamp only sees power from the USB.  That should keep your chat working.

Also, I found the "advanced" tab which has some DSP settings including Bass Boost.  The Bass Boost works, but it cuts down the mids and highs as it boosts the bass, so I turned it back off, as it sounded better without it.

thats odd, i can have both when using it through pc
(mixing and pc)
maybe they changed it in a later revision?
or it depends on your os (got win7 64 bit)








@ reader


and now imagine how it would sound like with a 150-200$ amp that is by far better than any fiio ;)
but thats just trashtalk, for gaming all you need is the fiio
sounds are compressed on the disk and usually in poor quality
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lc505 on 10:09 AM - 03/09/12
three if you miss bass on the mixamp connect it via usb to the pc, install the popup driver and go into system settings -> audio
youll find the mixamp as an external soundcard, doubleclick and you have plenty of stuff to customize

you can set the bass level there, its on ~10% on default which is really really low

wow, didn't know that.  will definitely try that tonight!

Just tried this and permanently lost Xbox Live chat through my Mixamp  :o

yes, if you let your pc set the mixamp as the "default" listening device, it will get all input from the USB, and you lose your mixing function.  You have to select your old soundcard, and set that as default, so the mixamp only sees power from the USB.  That should keep your chat working.

Also, I found the "advanced" tab which has some DSP settings including Bass Boost.  The Bass Boost works, but it cuts down the mids and highs as it boosts the bass, so I turned it back off, as it sounded better without it.

I've lost XBL chat completely, even when not connected to PC at all.

I'm using XP and didn't see any of the options listed here either. The only options available were selecting it as a device and volume levels/hardware acceleration  ???
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 11:42 AM - 03/09/12

thats odd, i can have both when using it through pc
(mixing and pc)
maybe they changed it in a later revision?
or it depends on your os (got win7 64 bit)


I believe what the instructions say, is select your PC's card as default.  Then run an optical cable from your PC's card to the mixamp, and you will get both audio + chat mixing.  But if you don't run the optical cable, and just use the USB for both power and data, it says the mixing function does not work.



I've lost XBL chat completely, even when not connected to PC at all.

I'm using XP and didn't see any of the options listed here either. The only options available were selecting it as a device and volume levels/hardware acceleration  ???

oh, that's not good :-(.   I wonder if there is a way to reset the device?

I'm not sure if the other sound options show up under XP.  Though enabling the bass boost mutes the mids and highs, so it's not worth it IMO.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lc505 on 06:06 PM - 03/09/12

I've lost XBL chat completely, even when not connected to PC at all.

I'm using XP and didn't see any of the options listed here either. The only options available were selecting it as a device and volume levels/hardware acceleration  ???

oh, that's not good :-(.   I wonder if there is a way to reset the device?

I'm not sure if the other sound options show up under XP.  Though enabling the bass boost mutes the mids and highs, so it's not worth it IMO.

I've been trying to get it back with no success. My mixamp was connected to my xbox via optical at the time. After connecting the mixamps usb to pc and installing drivers my XBL chat turned into a constant loud feedback noise until I unplugged it. A way to somehow reset it seems like the answer but I haven't found it, think I'm going to have to email Astro.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:41 AM - 03/10/12
there are two options

you can set mixamp to the default output soundsource (external soundcard)
and you can set the mixamp to the default input soundsource (mic)
you probably only unticked the first one

go into your system settings again, hook up the mixamp
go into sounds, there you should see all your soundcards as well as the mixamp

now rightclick the pc soundcard and tick both boxes
and untick both on the mixamp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 12:48 PM - 03/10/12
i just placed my order for usb mixamp,  does anyone know how to hook it up so i can use the dss1 for audio & mixamp for chat?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:01 PM - 03/10/12
the mixamp goes behind the dss

dss -> mixamp mp3 port
mixamp is connected to the controller as well as to the headset and mic
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 08:00 PM - 03/10/12
What's the best option for a headset when I just want to use a DSS?

I don't want to buy any additional mixamp or spectrum. So basically what's are some good xbox headsets with voice chat controls.

Currently using a Turtle Beach X11

Edit/Update:

Take it back.. Looks like the best wired option and voice chat included will be the X12s that have bigger speakers and a bass boost.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: AussieBacom on 05:42 AM - 03/11/12
I have a Tutrle Beach x41, no complaints except for its price.

Ive been told that SOund Blaster offer a great range of affordable heatset products with good quality for price aswell.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 09:50 AM - 03/11/12
the mixamp goes behind the dss

dss -> mixamp mp3 port
mixamp is connected to the controller as well as to the headset and mic
Odin, would that need a 3.5 to 3.5 connection? For the dss to the mp3 port that is.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:11 AM - 03/11/12
yes but the mixamp comes with such a cable, you dont need to buy one
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 01:57 PM - 03/11/12
I have a Tutrle Beach x41, no complaints except for its price.

Ive been told that SOund Blaster offer a great range of affordable heatset products with good quality for price aswell.

Yeah the x41 seem cool but I don't want to deal with wireless/batteries. I'll check out some Sound Blaster headsets then.

Thanks for some input.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:18 PM - 03/11/12
i have no clue about the creative soundblaster headsets, but i highly doubt they re a huge step up compared to tritton, steelseries, turtlebeach, astros and whatsoever

dss + samson sr850 + mic if you want to stay under 100$
this setup > anything those brands above have to offer, even the 200$ range headsets
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:02 PM - 03/11/12
I concur though im not too keen on samson products maybe their headsets are better than other products ive tried.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 03:45 PM - 03/11/12
Samson sr850 + DSS + Fiio E5 = Under $125.
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 05:56 PM - 03/11/12
Samson sr850 + DSS + Fiio E5 = Under $125.

What would I need a fiio for? Looked at it and I seen in the thread that maybe the headset is too quiet? But don't a DDS have a volume?

Oh for the zal...nvm lol hmmmm would it be worth it to get that head set when i'm using x11s right now?

Would not be bad for a $60 upgrade :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:34 PM - 03/11/12
would it be worth it?
depends on what you want

a headphone is several times better than any gaming headset you can buy
better positioning, audio quality and entertainment
price is usually the same as with a headset

if you dont like the clipmic you can also take one of those antlion headsets with magnets


the fiio e5 was recommended for being able to mix the volume of the audio chat
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: AussieBacom on 10:02 PM - 03/11/12
I have a Tutrle Beach x41, no complaints except for its price.

Ive been told that SOund Blaster offer a great range of affordable heatset products with good quality for price aswell.

Yeah the x41 seem cool but I don't want to deal with wireless/batteries. I'll check out some Sound Blaster headsets then.

Thanks for some input.
I made a battery mod from some old battery shells and hooked up a 2.4volts from a power adapter and it works a charm, never runs out of power now :), theres turotials on how to do that stuff on youtube.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 11:26 PM - 03/11/12
Too much work for so little in my opinion. The headset they linked is just as good and much cheaper.

I'll have to convince my wife now lol.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 01:15 AM - 03/12/12
Was wondering about the zalman clip on mic and do I need some type of cable to plug it to the Fiio?

Wanted to know also with the Fiio is there a mic mute option or another mic I can use with a mute option?

I tend to be considerate to other online gamers with mic spam/background noise.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:39 AM - 03/12/12
i posted in the other thread too, but i would recommend this mic

http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G

I have the zalman and its a pain in the @#$% to use with xbox, its ok with pc
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 11:06 AM - 03/12/12
i posted in the other thread too, but i would recommend this mic

http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G

I have the zalman and its a pain in the @#$% to use with xbox, its ok with pc

Love the look but the price might be putting me off unless the Zalman truly bugs me.

I'll hold that mic in my wish list though :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Reader on 02:54 AM - 03/13/12
i posted in the other thread too, but i would recommend this mic

http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G

I have the zalman and its a pain in the @#$% to use with xbox, its ok with pc

Oh, nice mic indeed. Would be awesome with a similar solution for a PS3 headset!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:51 PM - 03/14/12
Look at what I just aquired. Its a little big but im excited to hook it up to the old box for lolz.

 (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s88/amakrakis/2012-03-14_15-37-56_490.jpg)

Im psyched, think ill only pay like 50 bucks for it too as it was broken when I got it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 01:52 PM - 03/14/12
OOOOO that looks fun.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Slim829 on 01:44 AM - 03/15/12
hey, whats up guys. been lurking this particular thread for quite a while and have gotten some great info since im looking for a good set of headphones. ive been debating over the ad700s and the hd555s with the DSS processor. ive seen a few of you guys mentioning the fiio amp. what exactly is this for? im thinking its just to boost quality, but i could be wrong.....im a noob to this stuff
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:11 AM - 03/15/12
not particularly boost quality, although it could be used for it

its more used in terms of mixing the chat along with the dss as its not able to do it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Slim829 on 03:24 PM - 03/15/12
i see. makes sense. so im guessing it would hook up between the DSS and xbox controller?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Flamemonkey on 03:47 PM - 03/15/12
Alright, I know it's not TOTALLY related, but I figured you guys would have some good insight on this:

For PC gaming, what do you guys think of the Razer Tiamut? I'm just looking at them right now, but I don't really need any surround sound on my PS3, just my PC, so I was looking at these. I haven't so far had any issues with Razer products, but you guys probably know better than me.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:32 PM - 03/15/12
180€ for a piece of junk imo >.>
10 small drivers, 5 in each cup makes me laugh pretty hard
just imagine what you could get instead for 180€, incredible


well monkey if you have a decent soundcard, then you definitely should get a different headset/headphone
but if you are running on onboard, and all you want is positioning, then yes this headset can be considered to buy
i mean a good headphone just shines with a soundcard

but dont expect any nice music of movie entertaining with this piece, this razer one is good for positioning and thats it!
(still good soundcard + headphone = better positioning)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 05:01 PM - 03/15/12
Get a pair of Superlux HD 681 for$36.00 on Amazon!!

Use a equalizer to lower the higher frequency and you basically have a $300 headset.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:20 PM - 03/15/12
Get a pair of Superlux HD 681 for$36.00 on Amazon!!

Use a equalizer to lower the higher frequency and you basically have a $300 headset.

zspy you shouldve went with the sr850 od ad700
the superlux is nice, no doubt
the reviews i read were promising, definitely better than headphones in the same pricerange
but in the headphone market price is usually equivalent to output
(usually, ofc there are exceptions)

but you have a dss, so you can upgrade whenever you feel like it :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 05:42 PM - 03/15/12
With a filter mod they blow both those cans out the water. Not including the ring mod, new head band, akg velour pads or re-wire mod.

Google the rockgrotto forums and see for your self.

But in the end he will be using it for PC meaning no need to mod and the price will beat anything you can throw at them.

If you don't believe me get a pair yourself...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 05:55 PM - 03/15/12
http://rockgrotto.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=review&action=print&thread=4769

Try there for the mod if you plan on using the headset other then PC gaming.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:42 PM - 03/15/12
http://rockgrotto.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=review&action=print&thread=4769

Try there for the mod if you plan on using the headset other then PC gaming.

lol im shocked, you are right, just had a relook at the specs of the three
but this is only possible because the drivers of the superlux, sr850 and ad700 all only go from 10-30.000 hz
so with gambling around the case, yes it makes sense that you can go equal
but its practially impossible to sound better than the two as the driver cannot output higher frequencies thus limited in their possibilities
so blow out of the water is a bit exagerated, all you can do is make the filtering more fitting for the stuff you do, which ofc can be better than the two others on default case

but still theres no way to get above eg an hd598 or akg k701 with 10-38.500/39.800 hz


also something you arent able to change is the soundstage of the drivers itself
havent checked the drivers in detail, but im sure the three all use different drivers, with the ad700 probably the most quality one thus having the best soundstage, which is the key for successful positioning

well thinking of this then, the ad700 still should have the upper hand on the superlux by a noticeable margin


anyways, regarding the price this is a super clever mod that boosts this headphone on a different level :)
people do similar things with the hd555 to make it an hd595
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 07:48 PM - 03/15/12
Should of said and ment more bang for your buck I guess lol....still can't beat $36 bucks!!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:52 PM - 03/15/12
Frequency response is just advertising BS at this point. Just like "watts" in car audio etc.

When compressing a digital signal, one can safely assume that any frequency beyond approximately 20 kHz will not have any effect on the perceived sound of the finished product. You can hear down to 12Hz in ideal lab conditions. Nobody cares about bass in gaming anyway.
@#$% game sound in COD probably cuts off below 20kHz anyway

If you do like bass though what you need is Sony MDR-XB1000 with 70mm drivers and Frequency Response : 2 to 30,000 Hz
2Hz, you can't hear it but you can feel it :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:23 AM - 03/16/12
Cd audio cuts off at 22.05khz... Your sample rate which is 44.1khz decides that as you need at least two samples per wave to properly reproduce it. your hearing actually prolly cuts out between 16kHz and 18khz. Most mixes drop off sharply under 60hz. It prevents crazy stuff happening to the speakers bc the waves are so big and your starting to hit the threshold of human hearing there so there may be anomolies you cant hear effecting the speakers and overall sound. Thats cd quality.. Mp3s actually reduce bit depth after large transients in music, it actually masks the quality reduction pretty well. in cod who knows.It does make the crazy sound search seem a bit trivial though.

Probably the most important thing to us as gamers Is the positional audio, not freq response, not frequency response curves, but plain old positional audio... Who knows  though really?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:49 AM - 03/16/12
Sound quality in gaming is important for immersion as well.

Standing next to an Abrams in BF3 when somebody hits it with a Javelin sounds and feels scary/epic/piss-my-pants good with my setup... and I don't have the best setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Winnnie on 08:19 AM - 03/16/12
I just dont get it.

Where do you plug the mic in? I have headfones that have 1 green for sound and 1 pink for mic.
The dss, dss2 i cant see where i plug the pink!!

(Im not being rude for once...even though i often try to plug the pink, but 3 kids later)

Winnnnnie
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 09:21 AM - 03/16/12
hahahaha classic Winnie
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 11:02 AM - 03/16/12
iirc from what I read, the drivers in the superlux and sr850 were the same?  They are 50mm I think, while the AD700 uses a 53mm driver.

Anyway, I was hoping to have a follow up review of the SR850s with some new woven cloth earpads from the turtle beach PX5 headset ($2.00 each!), but instead of sending earpads, they sent the little foam thingy that goes over the boom mic instead.  and they took a week to get here.  #$%$#

but at least they sent the correct talkback cable (works perfectly for connecting your controller to the mixamp).
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:12 AM - 03/16/12

stetab thats a fault a lot of people do, saying you dont hear above 10-20.000 hz anyway so theres no difference

but thats wrong
a driver that can output a bigger frequency range is capable of creating clearer and nicer sounds
ofc you still end up hearing only the 10-20.000 hz range but the same song will sound a lot different


its pretty much like with engines in cars
you go out and buy a BMW 6 with lets say 300 horsepowers
ofc as usual, the engine is locked at 250 km/h (in europe, 160 mp/h)

for comparison, you buy a ferrari with almost 800 horsepowers
the engine is locked at 250 km/h as well (160 mp/h)

i guess we both agree that the ferrari has more power even though both use the same speed range
bmw might need 4 seconds from 1-60 mp/h and the ferrari 3 seconds
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:39 AM - 03/16/12
I just dont get it.

Where do you plug the mic in? I have headfones that have 1 green for sound and 1 pink for mic.
The dss, dss2 i cant see where i plug the pink!!

(Im not being rude for once...even though i often try to plug the pink, but 3 kids later)

Winnnnnie

Plug the pink end into the controller big fella.  You need one of these (or something like it): http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Smartphone-Computer-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331919676&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:54 AM - 03/16/12
winnnie green goes into the dss, pink goes into the controller :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:31 AM - 03/17/12
i know the higher the filter is set the smoother everything will be, but if you are using a 3000$ headset to listen to mp3s... haha lolz.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:10 AM - 03/17/12

stetab thats a fault a lot of people do, saying you dont hear above 10-20.000 hz anyway so theres no difference

but thats wrong
a driver that can output a bigger frequency range is capable of creating clearer and nicer sounds
ofc you still end up hearing only the 10-20.000 hz range but the same song will sound a lot different


its pretty much like with engines in cars
you go out and buy a BMW 6 with lets say 300 horsepowers
ofc as usual, the engine is locked at 250 km/h (in europe, 160 mp/h)

for comparison, you buy a ferrari with almost 800 horsepowers
the engine is locked at 250 km/h as well (160 mp/h)

i guess we both agree that the ferrari has more power even though both use the same speed range
bmw might need 4 seconds from 1-60 mp/h and the ferrari 3 seconds


Everything "Audiophile" became a joke to me the day I found out sites like Head-Fi don't allow double blind testing. It's like trying to have a logical discussion with someone about their religion, not going to happen. 

If you are going with a car analogy, xbox audio would not be highway driving. It's a one mile commute in traffic behind a school bus. In which case you should be walking/riding a bicycle not driving a Ferrari. If you insist on driving, comfort should be a priority in this situation, in which case the ATH-ADX00 headphones can't be beaten :P

Also you said AD-700 frequency response is 10-30000Hz, when its actually 5 – 30000Hz. (1) (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/d2dafc5d2d7d1498/index.html) The cheaper AD-500 is 10 - 30000Hz,(2) (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/d2dafc5d2d7d1498/index.html) so at only $85 shipped, that might be a good choice for gaming.


I just bought AD-900 drivers for 26 dollars.



-----------

According to the frequency response theory, these headphones are better than the Sennheiser HD800, and they can be had for $1100 less. $1300 less than the Grado PS1000 which can only manage a measly 50kHz. Weak @#$% Beyerdynamic t1 can only reach 50kHz

Sony MDR-SA5000
Frequency Response : 6Hz -100000Hz (yeah they really do 100000Hz, my fruit bat and dolphin confirmed it)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 02:27 PM - 03/17/12
Is this a good deal? It comes with the SR850, DX11,DSS and Fiio E5 . If it is I better get it quick!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320869868556?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:37 PM - 03/17/12
you can get all 3 pieces new for 160$, you probably can go even slightly cheaper when buying new


@ stetab

yes thats how it works, but companies like sennheiser or beyer put more effort into their built quality, also they let you pay more for their brand than sony

ive recently was in a big audio store, and from holding the headphones in your hand, how the plastic/metal feels, yes this is a big price point id say :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 02:53 PM - 03/17/12
It comes with a Turtle Beach DX11 also? Still not a good deal?

you can get all 3 pieces new for 160$, you probably can go even slightly cheaper when buying new


@ stetab

yes thats how it works, but companies like sennheiser or beyer put more effort into their built quality, also they let you pay more for their brand than sony

ive recently was in a big audio store, and from holding the headphones in your hand, how the plastic/metal feels, yes this is a big price point id say :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lilgreaze on 02:56 PM - 03/17/12
It's like trying to have a logical discussion with someone about their religion, not going to happen. 

if it's with you, i can see why
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:02 PM - 03/17/12
3 mix a samson sr 850 is 60$ or less
fiio e5 is 20$ or less
dss2 costs 66$ or less

overall you end up with less money but all is brand new and under warranty
all prices are from amazon.com, so theres probably another 20$ you can save when doing research

make sure you buy the dss2 and not the dss1
the ebay link goes with the dss1, this doesnt allow you chat mixing so the fiio e5 would be totally worthless

also the dss1 is much cheaper than the dss2 so this ebay offer is quite expensive for a used product
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:05 PM - 03/17/12
It's like trying to have a logical discussion with someone about their religion, not going to happen. 

if it's with you, i can see why

LOL you must love you some inaudible frequencies and deities
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 03:18 PM - 03/17/12
Yeah your right. Thanks.......again.



3 mix a samson sr 850 is 60$ or less
fiio e5 is 20$ or less
dss2 costs 66$ or less

overall you end up with less money but all is brand new and under warranty
all prices are from amazon.com, so theres probably another 20$ you can save when doing research

make sure you buy the dss2 and not the dss1
the ebay link goes with the dss1, this doesnt allow you chat mixing so the fiio e5 would be totally worthless

also the dss1 is much cheaper than the dss2 so this ebay offer is quite expensive for a used product
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lilgreaze on 03:21 PM - 03/17/12
It's like trying to have a logical discussion with someone about their religion, not going to happen. 

if it's with you, i can see why

LOL you must love you some inaudible frequencies and deities

it was just pretty condescending.  it's not surprising that people don't have logical conversations when you insult them
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:37 PM - 03/17/12
It's like trying to have a logical discussion with someone about their religion, not going to happen. 

if it's with you, i can see why

LOL you must love you some inaudible frequencies and deities

it was just pretty condescending.  it's not surprising that people don't have logical conversations when you insult them

Oh, sorry that I inadvertently hurt your feelings because it wasn't intended. Not trying to go off topic, but you are begging for it. It's just my experience that when you try to talk to someone logically about something that they strongly believe with no supporting evidence, it doesn't go well. Supporting evidence leads me to believe that we were not created in our present human form a few thousand years ago, that evolution does in fact take place, and that a power cable that costs several thousand dollars does not make my music sound better than a power cable that costs 50 dollars. Browse Head-Fi for a bit. Bring up the fact that they most likely can't tell the difference between a hundred something dollar interconnect composed of rhodium, silver, and od1n knows what vs. a coat hanger in a double blind test. Hint: there is no discussion, instaban. If you have any other non audio related concerns feel free to see me in IRC, PM me, or start your own thread, and have a nice day.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 03:41 PM - 03/17/12
Yea I dont do those sites cuz I could tell they were noobs off the bat... Trying to sound smart and using the wrong terminology out of context. I like some of the charts and graphs they have though its very informational sometimes. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:44 PM - 03/17/12
Guys, if you haven't already done this to you MW3 disc it might help. I don't know as I haven't ordered yet.

http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AP-CDSL


(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/audiophiles.png)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:49 PM - 03/17/12
yes i agree, if youd put 10 headfi members into a room, cover their eyes and let them listen to different quality cables, id guess they couldnt tell the difference

its always a question on how far you want to go, what you are willing to invest, and if it makes sense

i mean no one would buy an hd800 for gaming, especially with the xbox soundcard and a game called cod
probably anything above an hd650/akg k701/dt 880 will make solely a difference

in addition, the regular user doesnt need these expensive setups, thats why everyone in here usually says to go with a ad700 or similar, which does an excellent job for little money


BUT

i guess we all do agree on that headphone > headsets :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:52 PM - 03/17/12
Agreed. Everyone, please go to google and type "clearaudio goldfinger v2" and click i'm feeling lucky/click the first search result.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:33 PM - 03/17/12
I have one of these and I love it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 04:50 PM - 03/17/12
You would
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 09:18 AM - 03/18/12
Does any1 know of any other xbox games where I can do a side by side comparison with dss & mixamp like the crysis 2 intro? I don't have that game anymore
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:39 AM - 03/18/12
Beyerdynamic MMX 300 ? Price is steep but seems like this brand is very highly considered. I remember Roads mentioning a  Beyerdynamic headphone he recommended but I don't remember which model it was. Roads if your online could you refresh my memory? I did a search but couldn't find that post. Ever since I started reading this thread I can't seem to be satisfied with just one headphone. I always wanna one up my current one I have and get a better one it seems. I think I am addicted. My hearing will go bad in a year.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:17 AM - 03/18/12
people here have owned them and decided they are not worth the price tag. Anything from DT 770 up from them is going to be good.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:37 AM - 03/18/12
roads mentioned the dt770

the mmx300 has too much bass imo, its a nice headphone but you dont want to have this much bass for gaming
also its quite expensive as you say

if you really want to spend this much money, you should rather look into the hd598/akg k701/dt770 range
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Winnnie on 06:57 AM - 03/20/12
Im still a little lost.

I have a set of headfones, old 5.1's with a mic.

I could get the DSS and thats the 5.1 sorted, would i still need to buy something else to plug the mic into?

Or can i plug the mic into the dss?

Thanks!

Win.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:43 AM - 03/20/12
no the dss is solely for game audio and has nothing to do with the mic
the mic itself goes directly into the controller port, eg with a 3,5mm to 2,5mm adapter :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: cejohnsonsr on 05:09 PM - 03/20/12
I've learned (& relearned a few times over the years) that you get what you pay for. My advice is to be patient, save your $ (if you need to) & then get what you REALLY want. For me that was the Turtle Beach Ear Force Delta. It's not cheap, but......

That's also what I'm doing with my control devices. I just bought the Razer Nostromo based on advice I got in this forum. The XIM3 will be ordered this weekend. Last piece of the set will be the Cyborg M.M.O. R.A.T. 7 which will be the following week. (The mouse is actually against some advice I got in this forum but I really want it so.....)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:08 PM - 03/20/12
rat 7 mmo is incompatible, i really wonder why everyone comes up with it

i mean its not in the compability topic, and by using the search bar youll find out that some people said it doesnt work
you can invest those 129$ much better
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 11:41 AM - 03/23/12
77 pages...Jeeze...


So currently I have the following setup and would like input on new headphone setup.

Astro A30
Mixamp (wireless)

The Astros are fine but my cheap Sony headphones that I use at work are falling apart so I have 2 options. Get a good pair of headphones for work or upgrade my gaming headphones and use the Astros at work. I run all my music through my laptop at work and listen via Spotify so I dont have any mixing capability. I need a pair of closed back cans for work bc I share an office with another person. I was looking at the Grado SR80 but read through as much of this thread as I could and it seems Sennheiser or the Audio Technicas are the choice for gaming cans. Im willing to consider adding mixing devices to my gaming setup and/or an amplifier. For work I just want good sound quality, comfort, closed back system. For gaming I want as good as is reasonably priced - <$200 total upgrades. I would also like it to be future system compatible with whatever Xbox comes out with next.

Input?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:26 PM - 03/23/12
http://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-DT770-PRO-250-ohm/dp/B0006NL5SM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332527178&sr=8-1

amplified

could be a good deal with the Behringer just know its not loud enough without amplification but 250 Ohm sound better.

http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-770-PRO-250/dp/B006CU928I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332527178&sr=8-2
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:00 PM - 03/23/12
dss + headphone + external mic and you can go along with 150$
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:02 AM - 03/24/12
He already has a Mixamp so no need for the dss if he finds the sound OK.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 01:03 AM - 03/24/12
the dts say professional on the side? :-[ i thought i was the one with cans that said that.  :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:30 AM - 03/24/12
You mean DT not DTS is my guess? there is 250 Ohm 770s and 80Ohm. There is no pro/non pro version. My 250Ohm say "DT 770 PRO 250 Ohm". Oh and you can also get a 600 Ohm version but that’s hard to drive loudly enough with small amps.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:51 AM - 03/24/12
dt's my bad, just the pic you posted.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 03:01 AM - 03/24/12
Check the Beyer website there are no special 770s just the ohm versions to my knowledge. Check to be sure.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:15 AM - 03/24/12
if you want nice bass and closed headphone, then the dt770 pro 80 ohm should be your choice

if you are fine with weak bass and therefore better positioning, you can target the ad700 or the sr850 for example
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 01:09 PM - 03/25/12
so after reading even more reviews on head fi and elsewhere Ive decided I want to just go balls out and get a system Ill have no regrets about. Im willing to get an amp, mixer and whatever else to maximize my gaming audio.

I do have some wants:

-I want to keep the ability to chat mix without going into the dashboard, so I guess that means keeping the mixamp.
-I want a good mix of bass and soundstage. I like the immersion I currently get, but want to lean toward separation and clarity. So Id say my balance between those two would be 40% bass/60% separation.

So my questions at this point are:

Can I use a mixamp with DSS2 and/or headphone amp?
Will using an amp/mixer allow me to get more our of a set of headphones (like the AD700) than without? For example, since the AD700s appear to lack bass, will I be able to keep the clarity and up the bass?
In the 200-250 dollar range what are the cans I should be looking at? AD700, AD900, DT770, HD598 and anything else? How do the best headphones at this price point stack up?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 01:43 PM - 03/25/12
Quote
-I want to keep the ability to chat mix without going into the dashboard, so I guess that means keeping the mixamp.
-I want a good mix of bass and soundstage. I like the immersion I currently get, but want to lean toward separation and clarity. So Id say my balance between those two would be 40% bass/60% separation.

not possible currently

santa

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Can I use a mixamp with DSS2 and/or headphone amp?

you can amplify the mixamp yes, you get another and daisychain them with that red thingy in its bottom. Dunno if this would drive 250 ohm. You should ask them. Would be curious if it would pass Crysis2 intromovie without cracking sound. Dont forget to ask them that too. Or get a fiio amp. Or get a low ohm headset.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:03 PM - 03/25/12
if you want to throw out money

dss2 for dolby
mixamp for chat mixing
little dot mk2 for amp and bass support
maybe some additional tubes with better bass
some decent headphones, preferably hd650 or akg k701

~ 1000€ :P

(i wouldnt use this with a xbox though)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 03:14 PM - 03/25/12
couldn't he just get one of the small ~$50 mixers people posted waaay back in this thread to mix the chat and game sound
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 04:51 PM - 03/25/12
@Roads I have a wireless mixamp, so I dont have any red input/output. I only have an aux in, 2 usb and an optical in and out. Can I still run another amp and a DSS2?

Im interested in the Beyer DT990 with the mixamp, DSS2, external amplifier and an antlion mic. Thoughts on this setup and suggestions for the amplifier? Thoughts on those cans?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:26 PM - 03/25/12
i have no clue on the wireless mixamp, but all it needs is an aux in so you should be fine

the dt990 definitely needs an amp, all proper amps do use red and white cinch in
but you are going a way over the top with this setup
if you are using ot for music and movie ok, but solely for xbox this is far too much for the weak xbox soundcard
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 05:50 PM - 03/25/12
@od1n Ive read you recommending the a700 setup. What do you think of a mixamp/AD900/antlion setup? I dont have a problem scaling things back, but the A30s definitely have a good deal of bass which makes the immersion kind of fun in BF3. Id like to keep some of that while adding a ton of clarity/separation. Thats the only hesitation i have with the AD700 and ive read the AD900 are everything the 700s are plus a bit better bass.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:17 PM - 03/25/12
As you said you need closed, just get a DT770 80 Ohm for your Mixamp and you are done. They are easy to mod additionally. The DSS has better sound but you cant mix as easy and good as the Mixamp no matter what you do.
That is the decision you need to do.
I dont think the slightly better sound with the DT770 250 Ohm justifies fiddling around with a second AMP especially a DSS. You want to play right? I mean play the game?

That is the easy/good combination, The perfect sound is the DSS2 with FiIO amp and the 250 Ohm Beyers. The fiddling around with the devices and no mixing is the drawback.

Sound is always as bad as the weakest chain part. Mixamp is always deteriorating  sound.

You all should write a mail to Astro telling them their sound is bad on crysis 2 intro and DSS is not. They should try. I am sure they have no clue.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:35 AM - 03/26/12
stash from what you said previously, the dt770 is really the very best choice you could go with
we dont want to irritate you by mentioning more and more headphones

basically the dt770 is all you seek, bass, closed, excellent audio
on a sidenote, pretty much any headset has more bass than the A30 with its 20mm drivers ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lc505 on 06:02 AM - 03/26/12
Is the DSS2 the one to get? I've read reports that the sound isn't as good as DSS1.

(Mixamp STILL not working, losing patience with Astro support)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:29 AM - 03/26/12
i dont know if the sound is any weaker, so far no one in here said so and i dont really have any trust in the turtle beach forums ;)

they base their tests on the turtle beach headsets, which imo are not good enough for a real comparison
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 07:55 AM - 03/26/12
od1n and roads thanks for your input. I hate to run you in circles, but I guess I misspole in my OP. I do need closed cans, but for work. Thats why I am going to use the A30s at work and get an upgrade for my gaming setup. Im not opposed to open or closed for this use. Im actually narrowing down the list to the Ad700, AD900, Samson SR850 and one of the Beyers - possibly the DT880.

Ive come around to the idea of starting with a true entry level headphone and seeing which direction I want to upgrade after that. Im leaning toward the AD700 to use as my 'COD' headphones and for when Im feeling competitive in BF3 as I wont miss the immersion bc COD's sound is terrible. The Samson is also peaking my interest bc it seems like a better all rounder.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:19 AM - 03/27/12
oh i see

then id go with the samson, its very cheap and you cannot go wrong with it
if its not your type of headphone, the money lose is small

the ad700, 900 and samson dont have lots of bass if thats still a criteria for you
beyer is much better in this cathegory
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 12:43 PM - 03/27/12
hey guys i bought an astro mixamp and hooked them up to a pair of in-ear headphones

but it looks like i've made a mistake. is the astro mixamp pretty crappy?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:57 PM - 03/27/12
its the best device for chat mixing, the dolby decoding aint that good tbh
for example the dss does a better job there, however it cannot mix chatsound

its a give and take depending on what you prefer, game sound or chat mixing
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 09:41 PM - 03/27/12
what is the best bang for buck xbox surround sound headset?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:17 PM - 03/27/12
There is nothing such as a "good" surround headset.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 11:07 AM - 03/28/12
There is nothing such as a "good" surround headset.

Why not? is it better to buy a seperate headphones and a mic or something then? I'm quite new to xbox
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:40 AM - 03/28/12
A surround headset has several small and mostly low quality drivers in each can. The human ear hears directions by its sound quality and not by really coming from the front. We learn sound direction. So you want two good drivers on your ear stereo but the sound is dolby suround emulating true surround on a hifi sound system. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 01:50 PM - 03/28/12
In case no one heard this from anyone here in this never-ending saga of posts.. (i surely do not recall any lol..)

My sneaky sweet missus got me the wireless "TurtleBeach MW3 EarForce Delta" as a surprise valentine gift earlier this year whereas i was planning to get just the Earforce DSS 2 (was out of stock then lol..) to use it with my high end AKG n Senns.

Now, in regard to experience with gaming headsets i have only used the Tritton AX Pro before this, which i hated btw. Too heavy on my neck and hurt my ears after just a half an hour session.

Now the Delta, is just sweet, compared to the AX Pro that is.. Better sound, more comfort, no pain either on my neck or my ears and oh the freedom lol.. I can keep it on my ears and run to take a pee break without a hassle  ;D u don't know how much fun that is guys lol..

I haven't even tried the voice changing and sound shaping features, so later on that.

Now the best thing that actually happened was when i put my AKG in the wired stereo output connector of the Transmitter/Console device of the Delta with Dolby Digital Surround (DSS) enabled lol..

I knew right there n then what the EarForce DSS users were talking about here lol.. I can hear footsteps and gunfire positions like never before now   :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:33 PM - 03/28/12
The miss is a keeper me thinks ali....the quality of those big brand gaming headsets arnt so great theyre just easy you know? A one step solution. They are way overpriced for the quality. I just wished tb didnt have the chatmixing on the headphones instead of the dss. I guess they do that to ensure their product gets used with their product. Annoying.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 05:24 PM - 03/28/12
The miss is a keeper me thinks ali....the quality of those big brand gaming headsets arnt so great theyre just easy you know? A one step solution. They are way overpriced for the quality. I just wished tb didnt have the chatmixing on the headphones instead of the dss. I guess they do that to ensure their product gets used with their product. Annoying.

Thanks man, i know she is  :D

Yeah i guess, i was in a dilemma at the time i was considering the DSS 2 without the integrated chatmixing feature. Now i use the Delta with my wired akg headphone on solo play n with the wireless TB headset for the onboard chatmix with the Ewix Clan n buddies  :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:40 PM - 03/28/12
roads is 100% right

if you want to learn more about this read the first 20 pages of the topic, it pretty much explains it very clearly
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 01:00 PM - 03/29/12
Alright, I read all 79 pages of this thread this afternoon and am all caught up on the latest and greatest in audio technologies haha

I currently have an Astro mixamp hooked up to my PC and my Xbox.

I'm thinking of getting a DSS2 ($75) to hook up behind the Astro so I can keep game chat, PC hookup simultaneously (through optical), and still get a better quality dolby decoding.

Setup would be:
Xbox optical out --> DSS2 Optical In
DSS2 1/8" out --> Astro Mixamp 1/8" In (Question #1: Will the Astro still @#$% up this sound since it's not the one doing the decoding or will this passthrough work fine still?)
PC optical out --> Astro Mixamp Optical in
Astro mixamp chat out --> Controller chat in
Astro mixamp Y splitter --> Zalman clip mic & headphone

Question #2:
I need help deciding on a pair of headphones.
a. AKG K701s for $199: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000EBBJ6Y/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

b. Shure SE215 for $99 (I've previously preferred in-ear so everyone around me can't tell I'm gaming at my home office, but I don't mind changing that): http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-K-Sound-Monitor-Black/dp/B004PNZFZ8

c. Sennheiser HD598 for $196 (have previously found their headphones to have too much bass for gaming but am willing to give them another try): http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0042A8CW2/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

d. Audio Technica AD700 for $73: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000CMS0XU/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&condition=refurbished

I don't know how to decide between these. Money is not really an issue - they're all sub-$200 so I don't mind.

Question #3:
I need the ability to quickly mute my mic. I have the Zalman clip mic. Any suggestions on what to add in between to control this? Volume would be an added bonus but it just needs to be a simple mute so I don't have to yank out the mic cord like I'm doing right now.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 02:14 PM - 03/29/12
As far as the DSS piping sound through the Mixamp, I do believe you can do this.  You'd want to turn off the dolby processing on the Mixamp though, as the DSS already puts it into the stereo signal.  The only issue I see with this, is that once the DSS signal is passed into the Mixamp, you'll get the same limitations of the Mixamp hardware added to the DSS signal (frequency response, weak bass).

I'd think you want to run your headphone directly out of the DSS, and only use the mixamp for chat input/output.  I believe someone else posted how to do this properly.

for your mic question, I use a Turtle Beach talk-back cable to connect the controller to the mixamp.  it has a mute switch on it that works, and it's only $5.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:19 PM - 03/29/12
first off wow, nice job man reading all the stuff

1)
yes this will work
the mixamp in (mp3 port) is just a paththrough, it doesnt have to do anything with the dolby chip

2)
if you find the bass too high on sennheiser headphones you most likely will only find the akg or the ad700 acceptable
they have very low bass, at least without an amp
this leaves me to the next point, the akg needs an amp
even if its just 62 ohms its a very power soaking headphone
ofc you can still drive it with the mixamp & dss but it wont sound as nice as with the amp
also it might happen that you end up having the volume on max and still its not very loud

3)
wait for the lastest xim firmware, it comes with a push to talk feature for the xbl chat
this should give you the necessary mute function you seek

or chain a switcher between the mic and the mixamp
but this just adds more wires imo
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 02:28 PM - 03/29/12
As far as the DSS piping sound through the Mixamp, I do believe you can do this.  You'd want to turn off the dolby processing on the Mixamp though, as the DSS already puts it into the stereo signal.  The only issue I see with this, is that once the DSS signal is passed into the Mixamp, you'll get the same limitations of the Mixamp hardware added to the DSS signal (frequency response, weak bass).

I'd think you want to run your headphone directly out of the DSS, and only use the mixamp for chat input/output.  I believe someone else posted how to do this properly.
You and Od1n differ here but I'm not too worried because the setup is always reversible...if I hook up headphones directly to the DSS2 I can hook up the Y-splitter headphone output of the Astro Mixamp to the AUX in of the DSS2. Same effect achieved...

for your mic question, I use a Turtle Beach talk-back cable to connect the controller to the mixamp.  it has a mute switch on it that works, and it's only $5.
sweet I have an old one of these from my X31s I think - didn't even think about using it til now. Thanks...

2)
if you find the bass too high on sennheiser headphones you most likely will only find the akg or the ad700 acceptable
they have very low bass, at least without an amp
this leaves me to the next point, the akg needs an amp
even if its just 62 ohms its a very power soaking headphone
ofc you can still drive it with the mixamp & dss but it wont sound as nice as with the amp
also it might happen that you end up having the volume on max and still its not very loud
jeez that's one MORE thing to plug in and add to the line here...oh well...what do you recommend? a fiio e6 headphone amp for $28? http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E6-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B005HJWWW8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
and what do you think? AKG or AD700? I only play MW3.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 02:33 PM - 03/29/12
Hey guy i just bought Superlux hd 661(second pair of headphones).I read that they must have burn-in. Ill give a big review after 4 days so stay tuned! :D

I will compare them to my HD 598's
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 02:56 PM - 03/29/12
Ordered the DSS2, AD700, and Fiio E6 amp. Let's see what this baby can do.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 03:00 PM - 03/29/12
Hey guy i just bought Superlux hd 661(second pair of headphones).I read that they must have burn-in. Ill give a big review after 4 days so stay tuned! :D

I will compare them to my HD 598's

For the burn-in part, hush now folks or Od1n will get ya  :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:13 PM - 03/29/12
Ordered the DSS2, AD700, and Fiio E6 amp. Let's see what this baby can do.

nice choice, im sure youll like it :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 03:23 PM - 03/29/12
I can confirm the dss1 & mixamp work together, I'm using it with the ad700's & it works good. I haven't tried an amp with it though. Is there any other game besides crysis 2 that I can try the intro test comparison between mixamp & dss? I dont have that game anymore
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 05:03 PM - 03/29/12
I have mixamp + Sennheiser PC360's and the sound was pretty darn good on black ops but on MW3 it just doesn't feel up to par (If i have my volume set to max it's not even that loud)...has anyone else experienced this? I also wonder if getting a DSS2 + Fiio E6 would improve the sound drastically.  I still love mixamp's mixed chat  :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:48 AM - 03/30/12
chibisan an amp usually boosts the sound, some frequency that where very silent before get this boost and you start to actually hear them
so yes the sound picture will become more colorfull

but for mw3 the effect wont be very big, the sound in the game is very bad
you know all the game sounds usually are heavily compressed, its not like you listen to a 50mb wave soundfile
therefore you have to blame the game and not your setup :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 09:57 AM - 03/30/12
chibisan an amp usually boosts the sound, some frequency that where very silent before get this boost and you start to actually hear them
so yes the sound picture will become more colorfull

but for mw3 the effect wont be very big, the sound in the game is very bad
you know all the game sounds usually are heavily compressed, its not like you listen to a 50mb wave soundfile
therefore you have to blame the game and not your setup :)

Thanks Od1n!  Hey so for MW3 you don't think it'll make much of a difference then as for as Dolby digital decoding if I got a DSS2 ?  Fiio amp sounds like that is at least a must for my current setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:14 PM - 03/30/12
the dobly digital will make a noticeable difference, the fiio whereas wont make a big difference
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 12:15 PM - 03/30/12
Got my AD700s....oh my these are comfy....time to play!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 12:35 PM - 03/30/12
the dobly digital will make a noticeable difference, the fiio whereas wont make a big difference

cool thanks again  :)  I'll just order both and if the Fiio isn't that much of an improvement I can at least use it with my ipod (with the ipod cable of course) hehe
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 02:32 PM - 03/30/12
Holy @#$% is all I have to say!

Don't need the Fiio PS.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:50 AM - 03/31/12
better or weaker than before? ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:19 AM - 03/31/12
Holy @#$% is all I have to say!

Don't need the Fiio PS.

The Fiio just adds a little boost IMO. I had the E5 and it made it a bit louder. It was used with the PC 360 ,SR850 and DSS. I just picked up the DT770 pro and will use it with the mixamp so I can't wait to try that out. I was thinking of getting a mod mic but the price was just not worth it ($32.00 + shipping). Any good alternative?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:31 AM - 03/31/12
dont overrate the fiio, its a very very cheap amp, so see it as a way to control the volume

good amps start at 200$
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:32 AM - 03/31/12
Holy @#$% is all I have to say!

Don't need the Fiio PS.

The Fiio just adds a little boost IMO. I had the E5 and it made it a bit louder. It was used with the PC 360 ,SR850 and DSS. I just picked up the DT770 pro and use it with the mixamp so I can't wait to try that out. I was thinking of getting a mod mic but the price was just not worth it ($32.00 + shipping). Any good alternative?

Not really. You can make your own version of it, but it seems to be the only product of its kind at the moment. Zalman clip mic is okay if you don't mind talking loudly
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:43 AM - 03/31/12
Holy @#$% is all I have to say!

Don't need the Fiio PS.

The Fiio just adds a little boost IMO. I had the E5 and it made it a bit louder. It was used with the PC 360 ,SR850 and DSS. I just picked up the DT770 pro and use it with the mixamp so I can't wait to try that out. I was thinking of getting a mod mic but the price was just not worth it ($32.00 + shipping). Any good alternative?

Not really. You can make your own version of it, but it seems to be the only product of its kind at the moment. Zalman clip mic is okay if you don't mind talking loudly

Do you have a link to a tutorial of making your own "mod mic"?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:48 AM - 03/31/12
dont overrate the fiio, its a very very cheap amp, so see it as a way to control the volume

good amps start at 200$


yes it's a cheap alternative,by the way has anyone tried this?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHHA400
 
or this

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMA400


One of them was being sold as a combo pack with the DT 770 pro in amazon that roads provided a link to.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 09:22 AM - 03/31/12
better or weaker than before? ;)

haha way better. i can see why it's called a sound"stage" - it sounds HUGE with these on. to be fair, the cans are HUGE themselves.

i can hear footsteps - but you're right, in previous games the sound was much better to soundwhore off. mw3, not so much...

i got around to charging the fiio and hooking it up because i just had it laying around and i'll admit, it does help. i had the dss2 volume turned up all the way previously to play and it was just loud enough. this gives me a little flexibility in volume. good suggestion to get it....

i ended up hooking up the headphones directly to the dss2 and putting the astro mixamp into the AUX in of the dss2 instead of vice versa. the astro mixamp passthrough does indeed muffle some of the sounds unfortunately. it's not very noticeable but it's definitely doing it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 12:07 AM - 04/01/12
Just tried the DT 770 Pro 80ohm with the mixamp and boy does it need more juice. Sound quality is there alright but I feel that it can be much better. The mix amp was already maxed out and it wasn't even that loud or maybe I am just going deaf. I am definitely going to need a headphone amp, I can't even imagine how the DSS2 will power these cans up. Sucks that I returned the Fiio E5 I had two weeks ago,I should have kept it. Really looking into the E6 or Behringer HA400. What do yall think? E6 or Behringer? Read some good reviews about the Behringer HA400 but nobody in here has seemed to bring it up to topic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:24 AM - 04/01/12
DOS then im sorry but you must have received the 250 ohm
check the side panel of the cups, it should tell you the ohm

i have a dt 770 pro 80 ohm as well and in combination with the mixamp i cannot exceed more than 40% volume or my eyes start to hurt
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:31 AM - 04/01/12
Od1n, Its the 80ohm. Checked the box and the cups. Really at 40% for you its already loud for you? I bought this brand new at a local audio shop. Maybe the mixamp is seeing it's end of days huh ? I did buy it used from a guy in my area. What cha think?

Update: Tried both the PC 360 and DT 770 @ 50% volume and both sound almost exactly alike in terms of volume output. So I think its my mixamp that's about to give. IDK.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:44 AM - 04/01/12
Yeah mix amp should power it well. Check that your voice/game mixing knob is more toward game
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:44 AM - 04/01/12
maybe wrong cups?
dunno how to meassure the ohm on a headphone

it must be the 250 ohm, because 250 ohm would turn out exactly the way you said
even on 100% volume it would be not loud enough

80 ohm instead can usually be driven pretty easily by the mixamp
all the headphones mentioned in this topics are around 30-80 ohm
the hd598 (50), ad700 (32), sr 850 (32), hd555 (50)
and the ones i forgot, but they all are around this value and usually can be driven very easily by the mixamp or the dss



and like stetab said, check the lower volume knob
if you are unsure, put it into the middle
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:47 AM - 04/01/12
You can check resistance with a multimeter
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:29 AM - 04/01/12
Od1n / stebab it was a bad driver all that time. I kinda knew something was wrong with one side of the cup I thought it was just the DDSS. I am going to return it today. Left driver gave out when I tried it on the PC with the sound card. Funny thing after listening to the Crysis 2 intro @ 50% volume on the PC and within a minute of the intro the driver gave out, it sounded awesome too before it died on me. I was like @#$%? Really? Roads...good choice of video to test a headphone. Thanks. LOL.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 10:00 AM - 04/01/12
Hey guys!

After 100h of budning my Superlux HD661 i want to give them a review :)
This is my second pair of headphones(owning a Sh 598's).The point was to have outdoor/travel headphones.
First 60mins of lisening to them was a disaster.High tones was very sharp and not comfortable.They dont have a big bass.Mids are ok.
First issue was tightness of them.Foam hide ear very well but after 30 min I noticed pain in my ears.You cannot change vertical in these.
Everything is plastic, but has a very sturdy feel to it from top to the bottom.They look very nice and modern(I had the red version)
After 100h of burning hight tones changed to "warm" feel.Bass was a little deeper.Headphones worked with DSS very well :)
Positioning was good but no compare with SH hd598.The bass was only better(closed construction).Summarizing: After 5 days I returned them back...
The pain of my ears was to big ;/.They are very fun headphones with good sound(very good with DSS).

If my Sennheisers are 10/10 Ill give Superlux 7/10.

Yesterday I bought Sony Sony MDR-XB500 with powerfull bass(Im a bass whore)
After burn Ill give a review :D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:26 PM - 04/01/12
hehe you re on a spending spree eh? ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 02:10 PM - 04/01/12
yea :D

Next is DSS2 and Avermedia game capture :)
And a good PC to kick your @#$% in bf3 od1n :DDD
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:16 PM - 04/01/12
that will never happen... :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 10:39 PM - 04/01/12
I have just read all 80 odd pages of posts xD I have decided to get either the HD 598 or the AD700. I want to get the DSS 2 aswell. I want to use chat also so I will be getting a AntLion mod mic or a clip-mic and a 3.5mm to 2.5 mm jack adapter. I don't really want to get the Steelseries audio mixer because of the faint hiss people have experienced, things like that irritate me. What is the purpose of using an amp such as a fiio amp as opposed to plugging the mic directly into the controller via the 3.5 to 2.5 adapter? will it perform in a similar way to the Steelseries audio mixer?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: cejohnsonsr on 12:40 AM - 04/02/12
I don't even know what most of the stuff you guys are talking about is. I bought a Turtle Beach Ear Force Delta & I really like it. It's comfortable, & it works. I can hear all kinds of things I couldn't hear before. Footsteps, grenade pins being pulled, reloading, etc...

I also use it to listen to music through my XBox. I have a bunch of Classic Rock on mt laptop & I have a subscription to Xune (did I spell it right?). Anyway, the music comes through great. I can hear all the highs, mids & lows just like I would if I was listening to the band right there in my living room. I'm an old fart who went to a lot of concerts in the old days so, yeah, I really do know what it's supposed to sound like. It does.

Only thing I don't like is the bluetooth chat puck. Sometimes it will work & sometimes it won't. I never really know why. I don't chat all that much anyway so......

Ed
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: mikael on 02:03 AM - 04/02/12
I have just read all 80 odd pages of posts xD I have decided to get either the HD 598 or the AD700. I want to get the DSS 2 aswell. I want to use chat also so I will be getting a AntLion mod mic or a clip-mic and a 3.5mm to 2.5 mm jack adapter. I don't really want to get the Steelseries audio mixer because of the faint hiss people have experienced, things like that irritate me. What is the purpose of using an amp such as a fiio amp as opposed to plugging the mic directly into the controller via the 3.5 to 2.5 adapter? will it perform in a similar way to the Steelseries audio mixer?

whatever u do dont get the dss2 its not even close as good as the dss1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mr Brzezinski on 05:22 AM - 04/02/12
What mic will have better quality? The new MicMod or the Zalman?

#cejohnsonsr
Captain Price is that you?!
:D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:14 AM - 04/02/12
@ cejohn

you like it because you havent heard anything better so far :)
for the price of a turtle beach headset you can get a very decent headphone + dss, giving you a much better audio experience

@ mikael

really?
more like the mixamp or slightly better
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 11:40 AM - 04/02/12
I love my DSS2 for the simple fact that it had equalizer settings! Being able to turn down bass is a plus for me so I can hear sounds i'm MW3 better.

Plus you get directional settings.

People think the 7.1 is better but what games are able to handle it? Especially if your playing MW3...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:00 PM - 04/02/12
Hey guys/gals I was wondering if its possible to get audio from the xbox to the PC? Basically, I wanna use the headphone jack from the sound card. Can this be done?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 07:16 PM - 04/02/12
really?
more like the mixamp or slightly better
If I get the DSS2 and pair it with a cheap fiio amp and headset buddy would this enable me to speak on xbox live without the steelseries audio mixer? is there any drawbacks to doing it this way?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:05 AM - 04/03/12
yes you can do that and it should work too


@ DOS

depends on your computer soundcard
some eg only have a stereo in, others an optical in
ofc optical will be much better, but its also only available with the expensive soundcards
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 10:00 AM - 04/03/12
I think I remember seeing a drawing someone did of how to set up the DSS/DSS2, Fiio e5, Xbox 360, controller and Mic to hook up the ability to use voice chat.

Do any of you remember that, or is it in this thread somewhere on how it should all be set up?  I tried searching, but failed to find anything on it.

If there isn't any drawings, and I was dreaming it, can someone describe how it should be set up?
Thanks! 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:22 AM - 04/03/12
You talking about this drawing:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31EYDbny9WL.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 12:57 PM - 04/03/12
I'm thinking finally getting some chat mixing. Here is my shopping list:

headset buddy (http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Smartphone-Computer-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333479178&sr=8-1)
fiio e6 amp (http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E6-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B005HJWWW8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1333479328&sr=1-2)
Antlion Mod Mic (http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1333479373&sr=1-1)

My questions are is that a reasonable price for a headset buddy? Is the upgrade from the Fiio E5 to the E6 for $8 worth it? Which one is better?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:17 AM - 04/04/12
@ Od1n

Is there a sound card out there that you recommend under $100? It must have both optical in/out and can support Dolby headphone. (Lets you hear surround sound when using headphones). Looking forward to your reply. Thanks.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:28 AM - 04/04/12
"Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-Express" might be the cheapest to get with a decent dolby decoding and optical in
its about 80$ or less

pretty much any creative card has an optical in, competitors as well but if it comes to gaming then creative gives the best results
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 11:35 AM - 04/04/12
"Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-Express" might be the cheapest to get with a decent dolby decoding and optical in
its about 80$ or less

pretty much any creative card has an optical in, competitors as well but if it comes to gaming then creative gives the best results

I was thinking the same thing. Thanks a bunch!

Can't wait to use the DT 770 Pro with it !
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 10:16 AM - 04/05/12
Are these two the same thing?

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Smartphone-Computer-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

http://www.amazon.com/Micca-Earphone-Headphone-Splitter-Computers/dp/B002ZODFS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333549023&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 10:30 AM - 04/05/12
Sandak, those are different.  The headset buddy splits (or combines) the signal into one audio and one microphone port.  Note the 4 pole plug on the male side (3 stripes), indicating stereo audio + microphone channel.

The Micca product is simply a splitter that splits the audio into two identical ports.  This is for hooking up 2 sets of headphones to one source.  It will not split or combine a microphone channel.  Note the 3 pole plug (2 stripes) on the male side - No microphone channel.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: g0retekz on 10:58 AM - 04/05/12
Are these two the same thing?

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Smartphone-Computer-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

http://www.amazon.com/Micca-Earphone-Headphone-Splitter-Computers/dp/B002ZODFS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333549023&sr=8-1

the second one is just a splitter and will NOT work.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 11:51 AM - 04/05/12
Ahh okay, good to know. Thx.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Adexus on 03:47 PM - 04/05/12
Hey guys, been reading through a lot of pages on this thread and many, many... many more threads on different sites about which headphones to buy and I've come down to the Beyerdynamic 770's or the Sennheisers 598s, I'll be using these with the Astro Mixamp for movies, gaming (PC, 360), and music.

I currently use the A40s which to me aren't comfortable and the right speaker is more predominant and it's really irritating, I've had the headset and Mixamp replaced by Astro and the problem still persists, it's almost as if the speakers are rotated clockwise slightly, they just aren't balanced so I'm looking for something new... and better!

I'd like something closed back but I haven't found anything else other than the Beyers that I like, so any recommendations on that front? And I do like the strange, classic look that the 598s have but how much sound do they actually leak? Wish there was a closed back version :(

Any advice you could give me would be awesome, thanks guys!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:07 PM - 04/05/12
hd598 is open, means anyone next to you will hear almost the same as you
the dt 770 instead doesnt leak any sound as its closed
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Adexus on 04:12 PM - 04/05/12
hd598 is open, means anyone next to you will hear almost the same as you
the dt 770 instead doesnt leak any sound as its closed

Thanks for the reply, would you be able to hear an open back, say in the next room if played at a reasonable level? I'll be mainly using them at night so as long as they aren't too bad then I think I may go for them as I've heard open backs have a more natural sound and usually have a better soundstage which would be awesome for gaming.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:48 PM - 04/05/12
you could, depends on how noisy your surrounding is
if its in the night any anything else is silent, then maybe you will hear them in the next room

if you can buy them with a 30 days return policy so you can test it out
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:15 PM - 04/05/12
I have open headphones and nobody complains, if they are in another room it shouldn't bother them
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Adexus on 06:36 PM - 04/05/12
Hmmmm decisions decisions, why is choosing headphones so hard! :P

Is there any other models you guys recommend to use with the Astro Mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 07:23 PM - 04/05/12
I went through 7 headphones and ended up with two that I like best.  The PC 360 and the DT 770. Paired them with the mixamp and DSS. I had the SR850 but ended selling that to get 770. It's funny because I am like kinda known at a local bestbuy for buying and returning. I bought headphones,gaming mouses,monitors,etc. Tested them and if I didn't like it I would return them. Luckily for me their return policy is a "no hassle" one. So in summary I would recommend you buy it try it and you no like it return it. LOL.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Adexus on 07:41 AM - 04/06/12
I went through 7 headphones and ended up with two that I like best.  The PC 360 and the DT 770. Paired them with the mixamp and DSS. I had the SR850 but ended selling that to get 770. It's funny because I am like kinda known at a local bestbuy for buying and returning. I bought headphones,gaming mouses,monitors,etc. Tested them and if I didn't like it I would return them. Luckily for me their return policy is a "no hassle" one. So in summary I would recommend you buy it try it and you no like it return it. LOL.

Lol oh right, well I guess if they have one then you may as well use it!

I think I'll go for the DT990 Pro, the site that have them have a 30 day money back guarantee and a free 4 year warranty!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nyarlathotep on 04:47 PM - 04/06/12
Quote
"Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-Express" might be the cheapest to get with a decent dolby decoding and optical in
its about 80$ or less

Careful... everything I've seen concerning that card states the optical input only supports 2.0 audio, not 5.1.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 05:19 PM - 04/06/12
That would be strange since optical was developed for multiple audio signals.... They should call it ghettoptical.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 05:51 PM - 04/06/12
Yeah I looked into it before. Its somewhat expensive to get a card that takes optical 5.1+ in and let's you manipulate it and put it out to your headphones with something like Dolby headphone. This was back in the xim2 days so things may have changed by now.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 08:44 AM - 04/07/12
What's the best way to use the AD700 with DSS2 and a modmic to be able to use voicechat? what else would I need?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 11:41 AM - 04/07/12
What's the best way to use the AD700 with DSS2 and a modmic to be able to use voicechat? what else would I need?

The research and from the stuff on this thread, I'm trying to do the same thing. I think the only other thing you would need is an amp. I'm thinking about getting the fiio e6 which is pretty inexpensive.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Nyarlathotep on 11:52 AM - 04/07/12
You need a way to connect the microphone to the 360 controller: http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Adapter-PC35-PH25-Computer/dp/B002D41HKS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1333820949&sr=1-1 .

You have a choice to either use "speakers" in the chat settings, or use "headset," which will require the headset output be connected to the DSS2.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 02:50 PM - 04/10/12
better or weaker than before? ;)

haha way better. i can see why it's called a sound"stage" - it sounds HUGE with these on. to be fair, the cans are HUGE themselves.

i can hear footsteps - but you're right, in previous games the sound was much better to soundwhore off. mw3, not so much...

i got around to charging the fiio and hooking it up because i just had it laying around and i'll admit, it does help. i had the dss2 volume turned up all the way previously to play and it was just loud enough. this gives me a little flexibility in volume. good suggestion to get it....

i ended up hooking up the headphones directly to the dss2 and putting the astro mixamp into the AUX in of the dss2 instead of vice versa. the astro mixamp passthrough does indeed muffle some of the sounds unfortunately. it's not very noticeable but it's definitely doing it.

Hey dF (or anyone else who might know?), I just got my dss2 to add to my astro mixamp/Sennheiser PC360 setup.  I tried putting xbox optical to DSS2 and then headphone out from mixamp to DSS2 Aux In but only get a hiss noise.  Is the only option to go optical from xbox to mixamp and then optical out from mixamp to DSS2 optical in? trying to preserve the chat volume from the mixamp.

Thanks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dFshadow on 03:39 PM - 04/10/12
better or weaker than before? ;)

haha way better. i can see why it's called a sound"stage" - it sounds HUGE with these on. to be fair, the cans are HUGE themselves.

i can hear footsteps - but you're right, in previous games the sound was much better to soundwhore off. mw3, not so much...

i got around to charging the fiio and hooking it up because i just had it laying around and i'll admit, it does help. i had the dss2 volume turned up all the way previously to play and it was just loud enough. this gives me a little flexibility in volume. good suggestion to get it....

i ended up hooking up the headphones directly to the dss2 and putting the astro mixamp into the AUX in of the dss2 instead of vice versa. the astro mixamp passthrough does indeed muffle some of the sounds unfortunately. it's not very noticeable but it's definitely doing it.

Hey dF (or anyone else who might know?), I just got my dss2 to add to my astro mixamp/Sennheiser PC360 setup.  I tried putting xbox optical to DSS2 and then headphone out from mixamp to DSS2 Aux In but only get a hiss noise.  Is the only option to go optical from xbox to mixamp and then optical out from mixamp to DSS2 optical in? trying to preserve the chat volume from the mixamp.

Thanks
Xbox optical out --> DSS2 optical in
DSS headphone out --> headphones
Mixamp headphone out --> DSS2 AUX in
Mixamp microphone in --> microphone
Mixamp chat out --> controller

That should do it - that's how I have mine set up
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 04:25 PM - 04/10/12
better or weaker than before? ;)

haha way better. i can see why it's called a sound"stage" - it sounds HUGE with these on. to be fair, the cans are HUGE themselves.

i can hear footsteps - but you're right, in previous games the sound was much better to soundwhore off. mw3, not so much...

i got around to charging the fiio and hooking it up because i just had it laying around and i'll admit, it does help. i had the dss2 volume turned up all the way previously to play and it was just loud enough. this gives me a little flexibility in volume. good suggestion to get it....

i ended up hooking up the headphones directly to the dss2 and putting the astro mixamp into the AUX in of the dss2 instead of vice versa. the astro mixamp passthrough does indeed muffle some of the sounds unfortunately. it's not very noticeable but it's definitely doing it.

Hey dF (or anyone else who might know?), I just got my dss2 to add to my astro mixamp/Sennheiser PC360 setup.  I tried putting xbox optical to DSS2 and then headphone out from mixamp to DSS2 Aux In but only get a hiss noise.  Is the only option to go optical from xbox to mixamp and then optical out from mixamp to DSS2 optical in? trying to preserve the chat volume from the mixamp.

Thanks
Xbox optical out --> DSS2 optical in
DSS headphone out --> headphones
Mixamp headphone out --> DSS2 AUX in
Mixamp microphone in --> microphone
Mixamp chat out --> controller

That should do it - that's how I have mine set up


Can someone explain to me what is the benefit of doing this? This is the first I read about combining DSS and mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 04:32 PM - 04/10/12
So you can mix chat and game audios.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 04:49 PM - 04/10/12
Xbox optical out --> DSS2 optical in
DSS headphone out --> headphones
Mixamp headphone out --> DSS2 AUX in
Mixamp microphone in --> microphone
Mixamp chat out --> controller

Ah ok cool I'll give this a shot! 

Thanks Df  ;D

Hey Dos, the benefit to this setup is to have a volume for your incoming chat..an expensive chat volume lol  The mixamps worked pretty good and I wanted to try the DSS2's since people say it outputs better dolby (I verify it does sound better) but seeing as I already have the mixamp I might as well keep it for the chat volume.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 07:25 AM - 04/11/12
Chibisan, I'm in the same boat as you, I already had the Mixamp and then bought the DSS2 when it came out so I figured why not use it for chat.

I've been using that same physical configuration and have been loving it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 09:54 AM - 04/11/12
is there any benefit to using a mixamp with the dss2? or would a cheap fiio e6 amp have the same effect?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 10:04 AM - 04/11/12
is there any benefit to using a mixamp with the dss2? or would a cheap fiio e6 amp have the same effect?

the benefit is that they can mix in chat with the mixamp (and have full control over chat volume), while getting the better sound quality from the DSS.   

Before I had a mixamp, I would just use the xbox dashboard to set my game and chat volume levels.  If this works well enough for you, then you don't need a mixamp.  But it doesn't always work that well with other audio components.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 08:52 AM - 04/12/12
The cheap fiio amp would have the same effect, the only reason we're using our Mixamps along with the DSS2 is because we already own the Mixamp so we might as well use it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:35 AM - 04/12/12
Could sell it easily for 90-100. And by easily I mean someone clicks "buy it now" within an hour
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Stash Musial on 03:32 PM - 04/12/12
as an update. I went with the AD700 and returned it for the AD900. It did what I expected it to and was excellent with sitrep on COD, but it just didnt cut it with BF3. I paired it with a fiio e5 and the low end still wasnt what i wanted. The AD900 is a little better, but the main reason I upgraded was the AD700 had a tremendous amout of sibilance with certain music. Ive already got my eyes on 2 other pairs of headphones that I plan on getting soon. My 2 cents - if youre a COD player, the AD700s are great. If you play other games, youll probably want something more well rounded.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Souver on 08:01 AM - 04/13/12
Let me recommend you the HD600, the HD598 is great too (have it here also), but if your budget allows for an HD600 you will not regret it. One of the best when it comes to listening fatigue after long sessions and great positional audio and balanced, saturated sound overall.

I agree with HD650/600 reviews on nwavguy.blogspot.com, you can check them out.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 06:41 PM - 04/13/12
I have ordered a DSS2 some HD598s, a clip on mic, FiiO E6 amp and a 3.5mm to 2.5mm Jack adapter. How do I connect this together? will I need to order any additional cables?

p.s. will this work like the headset buddy? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270751107505?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_2043wt_1396
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:36 PM - 04/13/12
i think the setup was expained on one of the 80er pages, just click through the last 4 pages and you should find the setup :)
that adapter wont work

you need one that splits into 2 3,5mm jacks
also the correct adapter was posted somewhere on the 80er pages
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 05:11 AM - 04/14/12
I need to find out where to buy a 3.5 to 2.5 headset buddy in the UK can anyone help? I tried ebay and amazon uk so far. It is on amazon.com but they wont take Maestro UK debit card payment.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:17 AM - 04/14/12
maybe pick the one with the best review

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speed-Link-Xbox-Live-Headset-Adapter/dp/B0014BIQ32/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neewer-Audio-Converter-Adapter-Headset/dp/B007BKYV84/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2-TECH-headset-adapter-compatible-X-Box/dp/B0018CEOR4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-8
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 01:03 PM - 04/14/12
Got the modmic in today and was wondering if I will need the headset buddy to get the mic to
Work with the DT 770.  I plug the mic directly to the controller via 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter but couldn't get it to work properly. When hookup up to the mixamp via the astro Y adapter it works without issue. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:54 AM - 04/16/12
A simple adapter won't work.  The controller is expecting a four pole 2.5mm plug.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:56 AM - 04/16/12
Controller isn't 3 pole?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:03 AM - 04/16/12
Mic, left channel, right channel, and ground.  Four.  Unless I'm remembering it wrong.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:15 AM - 04/16/12
i think mono
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:23 AM - 04/16/12
It's not split into separate channels???

My setup has been working for so long that I haven't fiddled with it in a while.  I el-forgot-o.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 09:32 PM - 04/16/12
How are you guys getting your mod mic to work? I tried two adapters both from radio shack. First one was a 3 pole and the second was a four pole. It works on the mixamp with the Y adapter from astros but when I am using the DSS and plug the mic into the controller it just wont work.

These are the adapters:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2603246

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062474&filterName=Cable+type&filterValue=Audio+adapters
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:26 AM - 04/17/12
those wont work, you need one with 2 wires at the end
like an Y adapter, but not for 3,5mm but 2,5mm

check out my post on page 84 with all those .co.uk amazon links
get something like this, also available on amazon.com for us
those definitely do work and also have a proper mechanical connection to the controller
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:46 AM - 04/17/12
What Od1n said... you need a splitter not an adapter.  If you are shopping at Radio Shack this one will work: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102595
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:09 AM - 04/18/12
What Od1n said... you need a splitter not an adapter.  If you are shopping at Radio Shack this one will work: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102595

I can confirm that this does not work. I went in to the store and purchased it(actual item in link) and tried it. Negative on that.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:32 AM - 04/18/12
Did you try both jacks?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:48 AM - 04/18/12
probably broken, this piece definitely should work, so either the cable, headset, mic or controller is broken
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 12:42 PM - 04/18/12
probably broken, this piece definitely should work, so either the cable, headset, mic or controller is broken


@ tuffrabit I tried both.

@ Od1n Can't be the mic because it works on the mixamp. Not the controller because I used a xbox live headset and it worked so I think its the adapters. Should I just get the "headset buddy"?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:55 PM - 04/18/12
yes you can

but if you have a mixamp, why dont use use it instead?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 04:15 PM - 04/18/12
Hey guys ...I got my DSS2 + mixamp full set up (and Fiio e6 though it doesn't make that much of a diff) and I recently unlocked sitrep pro...I'm finding it hard to detect directional footstepping.  I can clearly hear when someone is near but when i'm against a wall i can hardly tell what direction it's coming.  Does anyone else notice how much more horrible MW3 directional sound is compared to black ops?  Using specialist to combine sitrep pro + dead silence on 1st kill : )
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:48 PM - 04/18/12
you really shouldnt use sitrep pro
it totally destroys your personal experience with directional sound
once its unlocked, the whole distance-loudness changes and you usually think someone stands 1m next to you but hes actually 20m away
dead silence is the only thing you should use, and if its specialist then get dead silence quite soon and deal with sitrep pro once you got it
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Chibisan on 05:02 PM - 04/18/12
you really shouldnt use sitrep pro
it totally destroys your personal experience with directional sound
once its unlocked, the whole distance-loudness changes and you usually think someone stands 1m next to you but hes actually 20m away
dead silence is the only thing you should use, and if its specialist then get dead silence quite soon and deal with sitrep pro once you got it

I don't mind hearing the footsteps super loud, but its because I don't necessarily know which direction its coming from in this game.  Sitrep pro has saved me a lot too but sometimes it does mess me up if i'm creepin along a wall and i hear footsteps from the other side of the wall.  I can't tell which side of the wall the person will emerge lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 06:34 PM - 04/18/12
yes you can

but if you have a mixamp, why dont use use it instead?


I should but the DSS just sounds better overall with the DT 770. I was looking at using both just like what other members are doing but I need to figure out how to power the mixamp up since the USB is already powering up the DSS. I don't think I have anymore USB ports on my xbox(fat version) to plug another cable.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:52 PM - 04/18/12
yes you can

but if you have a mixamp, why dont use use it instead?


I should but the DSS just sounds better overall with the DT 770. I was looking at using both just like what other members are doing but I need to figure out how to power the mixamp up since the USB is already powering up the DSS. I don't think I have anymore USB ports on my xbox(fat version) to plug another cable.



I use this for usb stuff

 http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Mini-Surge-Protector-Charger/dp/B0015DYMVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334796700&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 08:25 AM - 04/19/12
I need to figure out how to power the mixamp up since the USB is already powering up the DSS.
The DSS2 has a USB pass-through.  Couldn't you just run one USB cable from the 360 to the DSS2, and then another cable from the DSS2 to the Mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: barrow on 08:27 AM - 04/19/12
I can't let this sit-rep pro hate go without getting involved.  I LOVE sit-rep pro.  Yes the sound in MW3 was a big step down from Black Ops, but I think Sit-Rep Pro gives you the best sound-whoring experience.   ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Jon_Jon on 08:51 AM - 04/19/12
hmmm....I'm happy with my Sennheiser X320...really happy with this Senn XBox headset... 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:19 AM - 04/19/12
im sure you have, every xbox has 2x front and 2x back usb
1x xim3
1x dss
1x mixamp
leaves one usb for whatever you want to, eg a keyboard for typing
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:30 AM - 04/19/12
or this: http://www.amazon.com/Vacuum-Cleaner-hoover-Keyboard-Product/dp/B000MVD55E
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:46 PM - 04/19/12
lol, looks like a handy tool for fluffy rabbit coat ;)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 12:57 PM - 04/19/12
For me too I have a wierd pubic shedding problem.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 03:13 PM - 04/19/12
I have some headphones and a separate mic attached with the dss2 I also use chat with a http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_0_1/275-5758344-5399052

to convert 3.5 to 2.5 audio and mic jacks. I bought a fiio e6 and I don't know how to integrate it into the setup. It all already works but when i try use the fiio amp I hear no voice chat.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 03:20 PM - 04/19/12
Od1n...

If I, or somebody else, create some high detail connection guides covering the various audio/chat setups discussed here can it be stickied?

I've got that setup list for the desk mixer, but it's buried somewheres around page 4ish (i think).  Nobody sees it.  It seems as though there are a select few of us who are answering the same round of questions over and over again.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 10:33 PM - 04/19/12
Xbox optical out --> DSS2 optical in
DSS headphone out --> headphones
Mixamp headphone out --> DSS2 AUX in
Mixamp microphone in --> microphone
Mixamp chat out --> controller

You guys forgot to mention that a Y adapter( I used the Astro Y adapter) is needed when you are in the "Mixamp microphone in --> microphone" step.  Below is my ghetto layout of what I did. ;)



                                                                  ///// Y ADAPTER  @ <------MIC
{MiXAMP HEADPHONES OUT }  @  <||||||||||       
                                                                  \\\\\ Y ADAPTER  @ <-----AUX CABLE-----> @ DSS AUX IN




Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 04:39 AM - 04/20/12
I've got that setup list for the desk mixer, but it's buried somewheres around page 4ish (i think).  Nobody sees it.  It seems as though there are a select few of us who are answering the same round of questions over and over again.

I saw that but that mixer looks different to the Fiio e6, this amp only has one jack input and one jack output. I've got the rest in properly what do I connect to the amp? the mic or the audio jack? and then where does it connect to
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:15 AM - 04/20/12
Od1n...

If I, or somebody else, create some high detail connection guides covering the various audio/chat setups discussed here can it be stickied?

I've got that setup list for the desk mixer, but it's buried somewheres around page 4ish (i think).  Nobody sees it.  It seems as though there are a select few of us who are answering the same round of questions over and over again.

ofc, makes a lot of sense to sticky it :)

maybe id edit it into the first post of this topic then and sticky it instead
(wouldnt split the conversation maybe, ofc including credits to the writer )
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 07:48 AM - 04/20/12
Sweet.  I think the biggest issue to address is getting voice and chat working with a given config.  I see at least four different common configuration floating around.  I'm not including devices that are designed to incorporate chat (mixamp, aimon hp) because their user guides should suffice.  If I've forgotten one please add it.


I don't mind doing all three, but if somebody wants to grab one feel free.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 08:07 AM - 04/20/12
Sound Blaster Creative Recon3d
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dsl1 on 10:57 PM - 04/20/12
Without seeing this thread I went and purchased an MMX300 and Mixamp.

While the MMX is a nice upgrade from what I was using, I am thinking I can do better. Gaming wise the imaging is okay but not spectacular and I feel weird using headphones with a mic to listen to music.

Should I return and go for some HD600's?

If so, which mic is recommended?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 06:46 AM - 04/21/12
Without seeing this thread I went and purchased an MMX300 and Mixamp.

While the MMX is a nice upgrade from what I was using, I am thinking I can do better. Gaming wise the imaging is okay but not spectacular and I feel weird using headphones with a mic to listen to music.

Should I return and go for some HD600's?

If so, which mic is recommended?

Thanks!


A lot of members in here seem to like the HD 598 and mod mic combo. It's something maybe you might wanna consider. I have the DT 770 + mod mic and it's awesome. I also have the PC 360 which is good as well. I am thinking of going with the TT x32 just for its wireless function. I have so much wires on my desk it looks so messy. Unless there's a good wireless headset out there that someone can recommend the x32 or x42 is my only option. Its a downgrade IMO but I have to deal with it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 08:35 AM - 04/21/12
no you are fine with the mmx300
its a bit pricy but a good headphone

the mixamp and the dss reduce the bass a lot anyway, so the huge bass of the mmx300 shouldnt disturb you that much

ive listened to the hd600 and 650 and i found them extremly dark, like using an equalizer in the back
they are very nice for music but i wouldnt use them for gaming as their soundstage is pretty small compared to other headphones in that price range
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dsl1 on 01:50 PM - 04/21/12
I ordered the HD598 to compare the MMX300 to.

We shall see which I like more.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GotchaOpen on 08:13 AM - 04/23/12
Just a heads up for any1 on a budget, I bought a pair of those koss ksc75 clip ons for my iPod last week, tried them on the mixamp & they actually sound pretty darn good. Only paid 16 bux shipped for them shipped. Also on a side note if your looking for something to rest your headphones on, I bought this the other week & works really well.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000G66N2M/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1335190032&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000G66N2M/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1335190032&sr=8-1).  I use them with my ad700's & it does the job good. (bananas not included) :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 02:56 PM - 04/23/12
Just a heads up for any1 on a budget, I bought a pair of those koss ksc75 clip ons for my iPod last week, tried them on the mixamp & they actually sound pretty darn good. Only paid 16 bux shipped for them shipped. Also on a side note if your looking for something to rest your headphones on, I bought this the other week & works really well.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000G66N2M/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1335190032&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000G66N2M/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1335190032&sr=8-1).  I use them with my ad700's & it does the job good. (bananas not included) :)


It's peanut butter jelly time !!!!!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 09:37 AM - 04/24/12
So is it a better idea to go with one of those pucks that connects to the controllers or go with a headset buddy (http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-01-PC35-PH35-Smartphone-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS?ie=UTF8&coliid=IVQVAIOKD34SY&colid=2YBFAXEPPRBVV) if I want to do chat mixing with a Fiio E6?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:39 AM - 04/24/12
Either is fine.  They both accomplish the same task.  Just depends on whether you prefer added mass or a potentially weak 2.5mm jack to your controller.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 09:57 AM - 04/24/12
Either is fine.  They both accomplish the same task.  Just depends on whether you prefer added mass or a potentially weak 2.5mm jack to your controller.

I don't mind the added mass. I'm assuming by added mass, you mean the puck?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:43 AM - 04/24/12
Yeah... the puck.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 12:46 PM - 04/24/12
Apparently they don't sell those pucks in the US? Can't find any on Amazon that is. I guess I'll have to go with the headset buddy.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 01:42 PM - 04/24/12
Sorry for the millions of questions, but will I need a 2.5mm to 3.5mm converter to use this headset buddy (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SK66OY/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3SPLR0MSOYZ8O)?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:06 PM - 04/24/12
Nopers.  It's 2.5mm on one end and 3.5mm on the other two ends.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 02:26 PM - 04/24/12
You sure about that? From the product specs:

Convert two 3.5mm (1/8 inch) plugs to single Smartphone 3.5mm plug

EDIT: I found the one that I need. Not your bad Tuff. This is the one I need http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Adapter-PC35-PH25-Computer/dp/B002D41HKS/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335299198&sr=1-2
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 11:20 PM - 04/28/12
Try again buddy...

mixamp freq response: 35 - 20,000 Hz
dss freq response: 20Hz - 20kHz

Taken from the respective manufacture's websites.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Mouse N Keybord on 11:50 PM - 04/28/12
Wall o text...
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 12:46 AM - 04/29/12
That comparison with the DSS and mxamp in terms of sound quality is a joke. I have been switching back and fourth with the two and  I found  and conclude the the DSS outputs much better sound.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:45 AM - 04/29/12
Also a true 5.1 speaker setup is better than cans any day. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:34 AM - 04/29/12
yeah true speaker system amak, but pretty much no one in here can put a good 5.1 system in his room, neighbours go crazy for sure ;o

im sure he meant the 5.1 headsets that razer, tritton and astro are selling
yeah they re pretty bad compared to virtual 5.1 in good headphones

also the dss does sound better, really
make sure to have tested the dss1 as it sounds better than the dss2
also it very much depends on the game you tested, i recommend crysis 2 or BF3 as those games have an excellent sound quality
you can forget about cod games, their sound is like tetris gameboy sound compared to the two above :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 06:45 AM - 04/29/12
I want the cheaper option the DSS 2 to use with my stereo headset, but it seems it doesnt have a microphone jack unless im missig it or another way to connect the microphone.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:48 AM - 04/29/12
please read the topic, it coveres what you seek ;)

the dss1/2 NEVER supported microphones, you need to use a headset buddy
however theres a workaround with dss2 and a small pre-amp
its somewhere in the topic starting at page 60+ or so
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 07:01 AM - 04/29/12
Has anyone in the UK found an xbox headset buddy/adapter that doesn't produce a faint hiss or buzzing sound? I've got a Speedlink xbox headset adapter and it does it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_vg_h__title_1/280-9026880-5921334
and I've heard that the SteelSeries one does too, is there any other adapters that don't or does anyone know a way around this?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 07:09 AM - 04/29/12
Odin i have a turtle beach  amigo 2, Would that work fine with the DSS 2. Plus with the DSS 2 can i just use the usb port on my ps3 to get sound because the sound port on my monitor is knackered.

Sorry for all the questions i know some are getting annoyed however I have a very bad mania and OCD attack in the last few weeks so im still in the settling stages.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:36 AM - 04/29/12
no i dont think you can use this amigo 2, also i aint sure about sound through usb with ps3

dss works for ps3, im sure they tell you the possible ways on their homepage
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:09 AM - 04/29/12
Has anyone in the UK found an xbox headset buddy/adapter that doesn't produce a faint hiss or buzzing sound? I've got a Speedlink xbox headset adapter and it does it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_vg_h__title_1/280-9026880-5921334
and I've heard that the SteelSeries one does too, is there any other adapters that don't or does anyone know a way around this?

Headset Buddy is a brand.

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Adapter-PC35-PH25-Computer/dp/B002D41HKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335712107&sr=8-1

Use their stuff.  Good products for the price.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 12:22 PM - 04/29/12
Headset Buddy is a brand.

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Adapter-PC35-PH25-Computer/dp/B002D41HKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335712107&sr=8-1

Use their stuff.  Good products for the price.

You can't buy the headset buddy in the UK as far as I know, and amazon.com wont take Maestro UK debit card payment.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:25 PM - 04/29/12
here you have some amazon.co.uk links

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speed-Link-Xbox-Live-Headset-Adapter/dp/B0014BIQ32/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neewer-Audio-Converter-Adapter-Headset/dp/B007BKYV84/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2-TECH-headset-adapter-compatible-X-Box/dp/B0018CEOR4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-8
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 03:08 PM - 04/29/12
I will have a look through that odin

Cheers.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 09:04 AM - 04/30/12
here you have some amazon.co.uk links

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speed-Link-Xbox-Live-Headset-Adapter/dp/B0014BIQ32/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neewer-Audio-Converter-Adapter-Headset/dp/B007BKYV84/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Live-Headset-Adapter-Black/dp/B004S1NYEQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2-TECH-headset-adapter-compatible-X-Box/dp/B0018CEOR4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1334413010&sr=8-8

I've got the black Speedlink one and it has a faint hiss, has anyone tried any of the others?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:07 AM - 04/30/12
Dude... honestly, the hiss is probably the controller and not the adapter.  The adapter is an extremely simple passive device that splits the signal.  I seriously doubt it is introducing something into the system that isn't already there.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 10:09 AM - 04/30/12
tuff is right

i have one of these adapters, the speedlink one
theres no hiss sound, its impossible that its added by this device
you can break it up, all youll find are 2 wires and thats it
yes its quite overpriced for just two wires, but theres no chance the hiss comes from the adapter

the problem is the controller
only official microsoft controller do not have this hiss sound, and even with them there are some "faulty" controllers that do have this hiss sound
the major part ofc doesnt

ive read multiple of these hiss sound problems during the last year, and pretty much every case was solved by getting an official microsoft controller
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 10:18 AM - 04/30/12
Ditto on Od1n.  I use a GameStop (MadCatz) controller with a HeadsetBuddy and I have hiss on the chat channel.  It happens.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: lc505 on 03:03 PM - 04/30/12
I have a high pitched buzzing noise from my official wired controller.

Also, the speedlink adapter wont't work with a chat pad so I just ordered the headset buddy (postage to uk was reasonable).
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:50 AM - 05/01/12
as i said, not every official microsoft controller is of good guilt
let it have a few bad solderings inside and there you have your buzzing

also you can reduce the buzz by not using the maximum on the potentiometers, for example mixamp @ 50% and 50% not 80% and 20%
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 10:57 AM - 05/01/12
I got a turtle beach dpx21set off the bay. Its  not even been used andi saved 30 pounds on it.

However i wish i did my reviews on it properly. I hear turtle beach headset hiss which i cannot stand.

The headset will be used for ps3.

I hear that getting a usb as adapter may fix this hiss. But would that mean no mic chat?

I do have a turtle beach amigo 2 which im sure i can use for my pic mic i have.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:16 PM - 05/01/12
id get rid of the turtle beach, sell it for a good price and use the money to get something of more value
will solve all your hiss problems and gives better audio
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 12:27 PM - 05/01/12
What do you suggest? The mixamp is really expensive. I have some goldring dr 150s and a seperate mic.

Which astro mixamp to get? Do they have dolby?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 12:33 PM - 05/01/12
wow if you already have such a headphone and mic, all you need is the dss1 or dss2 and a headset buddy
costs are about 50-80€, something you should get in return of the turtle beach
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 12:37 PM - 05/01/12
Ive just actually seen the astro a40 mixamp on ebay, not the headset just the mixamp. But which one comes with the a40 setup they sell on their site? The pro or 5.8.

Its a good price also.

Do i have to use batterys with the mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 12:39 PM - 05/01/12
wow if you already have such a headphone and mic, all you need is the dss1 or dss2 and a headset buddy
costs are about 50-80€, something you should get in return of the turtle beach

Yea i made a mistake. Im just going to sell it on the bay and get my money back.

I asked you this question though odin. The DSS doesnt have a seperate mic jack.

My mic is not built into the goldrings. What do i do. Get the DSS or the mixamp or is their anway around the mic issue with the dss?

I can get a mixamp on the bay for the price of a new DSS but how do they compare to one another?

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 12:46 PM - 05/01/12
as i said, not every official microsoft controller is of good guilt
let it have a few bad solderings inside and there you have your buzzing

I have the official Microsoft controller too there seems to be quite a few people with this problem surely we don't all have faulty controllers. On the SteelSeries website there is an FAQ and it says:
"Intermittent static noise or buzzing is usually a result of signal interference. Since the Audiomixer is an analog device, it is susceptible to noise or interference from devices that emit radioactive signals. There will usually be a low level buzz audible when not listening to any audio. However, normal sound output should entirely eliminate all audible buzz. "
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:05 PM - 05/01/12
toys just came up with a good point in a different topic, put away your cellphone or dont sit right next to the wlan-router
this can cause buzzing, written in the turtle beach forums i think
also i have the steelseries mixer here and never had any buzzing with it on different headphones

@ dmxdex

no the dss doesnt support microphone thats why there isnt any port for it
its just for the audio
but thats not a problem as the microphone is connected right to the controller-mic-port with a so called "headset buddy"
on the last page i posted some of those "buddies", also tuff posted a link i think

if you dont like your current microphone and you plan to get something more professional, check out "AntLion Modmic"
a pretty decent solution for headphones
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 01:15 PM - 05/01/12
Odin im on ps3 mate, not xbox. If thats what you mean of course.

Im happy with my mic for now.

Like i said i have ps3 so i cant connect mic to a pad. I however do have a turtle beach amigo 2 is that would work for using my mic?

Once i can sort out my mic its then just a question of the dds 1 or 2 vs a astro a40 mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 01:17 PM - 05/01/12
I finally got a chance to mess with my Fiios E6 and headset buddy with the ant lion boom mic.

Two questions...

1. Do I plug the non-mic cord into the aux in or analog in?
2. Should I switch the xbox to only output chat to the controller?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 01:51 PM - 05/01/12
What i can do is just take the DSS from the dpx21 and use it with my goldring dr 150s. Now im sure the turtle  beach amigo 2 will work for just my microphone as it has a mic jack along with headphone jack, that should give me psn chat.

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:16 PM - 05/01/12
dmxdex i have no clue about ps3 setup, how mic is attached and so on, sorry

@ sandak

1) controller - headset buddy audio cable - fiio e6 - dss2 audio input
thats how you need to set it up
just look at the fiio, theres just one in and one out i think

2) set it to controller only or headset only how its called i think
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: dmxdex on 02:23 PM - 05/01/12
I will give it a go tomoz and report back odin. I did get the amigo to work with the turtle beach x11 last year. I had to run the headphone jack into the tv and the mic into the amigo 2 to get mic.

I will try it out tomoz and report back so for future reference peoole can use that combo.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: darkshadowhawk on 08:29 PM - 05/01/12
toys just came up with a good point in a different topic, put away your cellphone or dont sit right next to the wlan-router
this can cause buzzing, written in the turtle beach forums i think
also i have the steelseries mixer here and never had any buzzing with it on different headphones

Just as an update for people who have had the hissing or buzzing noise with a headset adapter i bought a fiio e6 amp and connected it up today. I turned the voice and game volume to 10 in xbox settings and turn the amp down a bit. I no longer hear the static noise that I heard without the amp!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:02 PM - 05/02/12
analog tape always had a hiss, and analog is still far superior than any digital technology we have today.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:13 PM - 05/02/12
yeah, tube amps > digital amps any day :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 04:25 PM - 05/02/12
not even with analog you capture the whole wave in entirety with digital you just take samples and use a formula to fill in the rest. analog natural compression cant be touched. we cant all have a 4ft by 8ft machine in our den though.

also tube amps boost what we call even ended harmonics (these compile the timbre of a sound... harmonics) digital and solid state boost odd ended harmonics which are not cosanant to our ears.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:00 PM - 05/02/12
also tube amps boost what we call even ended harmonics (these compile the timbre of a sound... harmonics) digital and solid state boost odd ended harmonics which are not cosanant to our ears.

This is correct.  This is also why I play guitar through one of these:

(http://www.heartofaworshipper.com/TraynorYCV40%20Frontback.gif)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 05:14 PM - 05/04/12
Hey y'all you think the XP500 or XP400 is worth buying? I am really considering getting a wireless headset. I was very close to buying one today but I wanted to get my fellow ximmers opinion. It seems like there are no great wireless gaming headsets out in the market. I only started looking at this because it's has rechargeable batteries and wireless chat. Seems like TB is the only brand right now with wireless chat features. I understand that the sound quality can't even compete with headphones such as the ad700,hd598,DT 770 pro and etc. but I can live with that since I can always switch over to my PC 360 and DT 770 if I feel like I need some quality sound.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:37 AM - 05/05/12
from what i heard they eat batteries for breakfast, lunch and dinner, sometimes even in between
other than that this headset is decent @#$%, worth about 50-70€ but priced at 200€
if you really feel like throwing away such a big amount of money - just to go wireless - then have fun :)

im curious if you can actually use them then, most wireless headphones have issues with the router, phone or whatever wireless device in the household
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 01:23 PM - 05/05/12
from what i heard they eat batteries for breakfast, lunch and dinner, sometimes even in between
other than that this headset is decent @#$%, worth about 50-70€ but priced at 200€
if you really feel like throwing away such a big amount of money - just to go wireless - then have fun :)

im curious if you can actually use them then, most wireless headphones have issues with the router, phone or whatever wireless device in the household

Should not have interference because its dual band 2.4 and 5 ghz. It's a risk I'll take.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:49 PM - 05/05/12
for the first yeah, but in 1-2 years pretty much any device goes 5.9 ghz, dont forget about this

theres also this turtle beach wireless adapter that makes headsets/headphones wireless i think
never looked to much into them
theres also the mixamp wireless version
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 11:06 PM - 05/05/12
sennheiser 350/360 + steelseries audiomixer good sound but cheaper than mixamp and with mic
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 08:35 AM - 05/06/12
I also had some difficulties about buying which headsets will be the best buy...
So I did some researches and I think I can give some advice...

The MAIN point is - buy a Dolby decoder then use your own headset.
So, for a decoder, the best reviewed (for gaming purposes) are the Turtle beach Earforce DSS / DSS2 (seems like DSS is better, but I haven't tried them so I don't know) and the Astro Mixamp Pro.

Based on sound quality, the DSS seems to be more cost effective, but eventually I bought the Astro Mixamp because it does look a lot better, but I can tell you that the Mixamp is quite good, if you love fancy-looking gaming setup.

Then for the headphone...
If you are going on to professional gaming and some public competitions,
pay a fortune and go for the Astro A40..
But to be honest, except for the communication system, the other parts of the A40 doesn't add up to its cost.

If you're JUST buying a headset for gaming purpose, Audio Technica ATH-AD700 is what I recommend to you.
32Ohm, not so power hungry, and a very clear and wide soundstage.
It is not very expensive (comparing with other high-quality on ear headphones)
And use a clip on headphone for communications, Labtec LVA 7330 is what I am using right now.

But if you want to use the headphone for music or video watching, AD700 won't be your choice.
Coz AD700 doesn't have a heavy bass, and thus I would buy Beyerdynamics DT880...
But you have to pay a bit more money to upgrade to DT880... and you have to buy 60Ohm version, or else you need an extra amp to drive the DT880...

So... all on your choice actually  ;D
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:42 AM - 05/06/12
Then for the headphone...
If you are going on to professional gaming and some public competitions,
pay a fortune and go for the Astro A40..
But to be honest, except for the communication system, the other parts of the A40 doesn't add up to its cost.

na id never suggest anyone to pay for this @#$%
A40 are the same crap like tritton or turtle beach, id never use professional and those brands in the same sentences

even if you do professional lan gaming, mixamp + headphones is the way to go
always :)
(unless you have contracts with those brands)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 02:51 PM - 05/06/12
Then for the headphone...
If you are going on to professional gaming and some public competitions,
pay a fortune and go for the Astro A40..
But to be honest, except for the communication system, the other parts of the A40 doesn't add up to its cost.

na id never suggest anyone to pay for this @#$%
A40 are the same crap like tritton or turtle beach, id never use professional and those brands in the same sentences

even if you do professional lan gaming, mixamp + headphones is the way to go
always :)
(unless you have contracts with those brands)

Well.. I just don't want to insult anyone who own A40 in the forum anyway..
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 04:50 PM - 05/06/12
ofc not, but i see it as a mission to keep people away from those products ;)
why spending money for a product when you can get much better quality for the same money
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 08:58 PM - 05/06/12
astro live on sponsoring pros so kids think its the @#$% to get..  and the earcuffs sucks @#$%
well any onear headsets is nobuy for my dumbo ears if i want to game more than 1 hour
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 09:44 PM - 05/08/12
Just got some new ear pads for my Samson SR850s.  The Samson ear pads are plastic and stick to my face which kinda bugs me.  So I ordered some velour pads from the Beyerdynamic DT770s.  The beyer pads are actually a bit smaller than the samsons, so I needed to do some serious stretching on these guys to get them to fit.  Eventually, I got them on, and used a bit of electrical tape just to keep them in place.  They are very comfy tho!

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0971.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0972.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0973.JPG)

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:00 AM - 05/09/12
Did those pads change the distance the drivers are to your ears?  You notice any difference in sound stage?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Threewheels on 10:16 AM - 05/09/12
the beyer pads seem like they might be slightly thicker than the factory pads, so they may be slightly further from my ears.  but I suspect they'll break in a bit over time and compress a bit.

I can't say if the soundstage changed or not.  I haven't used the headphones in a couple days, so I couldn't tell if there was a sound difference.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:54 AM - 05/09/12
Has anyone tried the tritton detonators? I might need a cheap headset if I can't get hold of a mix amp for a little while
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 03:46 PM - 05/09/12
Has anyone tried the tritton detonators? I might need a cheap headset if I can't get hold of a mix amp for a little while

quote from the tritton page about the detonator

Quote
Utilizing the highest quality drivers available for use in commercial headsets - - Neodymium - - high-fidelity game and chat audio is pumped through a pair of amplified 50mm speakers for rich bass and crisp highs.

lmao, how achievable... :o

same headset, refering to the "rich bass and crisp highs while reading this quote

Quote
Frequency Response: 25Hz-20kHz


if you are low on money just get a headphone and use it in stereo mode
works very very well, after some time you can get a dss then
currently im using stereo too despite having a mixamp next to me

get a sennheiser hd555 and open it up to a hd595 or so, should give you much better results than this 70€ headset
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 04:50 PM - 05/09/12
Just got some new ear pads for my Samson SR850s.  The Samson ear pads are plastic and stick to my face which kinda bugs me.  So I ordered some velour pads from the Beyerdynamic DT770s.  The beyer pads are actually a bit smaller than the samsons, so I needed to do some serious stretching on these guys to get them to fit.  Eventually, I got them on, and used a bit of electrical tape just to keep them in place.  They are very comfy tho!

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0971.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0972.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3812499/IMG_0973.JPG)



Looks good man

I'm trying to find some new pads for some JVCHARX700 cans i have lying around that I never used. I'm going to shoehorn my old AD700 drivers into them too! :)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 05:38 PM - 05/09/12
Has anyone tried the tritton detonators? I might need a cheap headset if I can't get hold of a mix amp for a little while

quote from the tritton page about the detonator

Quote
Utilizing the highest quality drivers available for use in commercial headsets - - Neodymium - - high-fidelity game and chat audio is pumped through a pair of amplified 50mm speakers for rich bass and crisp highs.

lmao, how achievable... :o

same headset, refering to the "rich bass and crisp highs while reading this quote

Quote
Frequency Response: 25Hz-20kHz


if you are low on money just get a headphone and use it in stereo mode
works very very well, after some time you can get a dss then
currently im using stereo too despite having a mixamp next to me

get a sennheiser hd555 and open it up to a hd595 or so, should give you much better results than this 70€ headset

I have hd555 and ad700 sat here but the dss is such a long way to fix a problem that shouldn't exist, the maixes chat should be built into it which is why I'm after the mix amp
I know the sound quality will be lacking but its an easier setup than the dss and whatever else is needed to mix the chat
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 05:51 PM - 05/09/12
steelseries audiomixer have independent game volume and chat volume and its cheap
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 06:41 PM - 05/09/12
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80ohm w/ antlion mod mic anyone? PM me for dee tales.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 07:16 PM - 05/09/12
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80ohm w/ antlion mod mic anyone? PM me for dee tales.
What's this antilon mod?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 08:24 PM - 05/09/12
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80ohm w/ antlion mod mic anyone? PM me for dee tales.
What's this antilon mod?


This.

http://www.modmic.com/

(http://)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GodToMen on 02:21 AM - 05/10/12
so i just bought the HD-598 headphones and got my friends old DSS because people were saying it was better then the DSS2. what other things will i need if i want chat in the headphones? ZALMAN ZM-MIC1 was something that someone said would work and i saw the astro mixamp but i want to know if there is anything im missing?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 06:10 AM - 05/10/12
so im thinking about selling my ad700s and getting senn pc360s with a mixamp pro

or should i just get the mixamp pro and keep and mod the ad700s?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 07:36 AM - 05/10/12
Keep ad700
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 07:49 AM - 05/10/12
So for some reason my Fiio E6 doesn't seem to be amplifying the sound chat coming out of the controller. Anyone run into this issue?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 09:00 AM - 05/10/12
Keep ad700

Any reason?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 10:05 AM - 05/10/12
Better!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 10:15 AM - 05/10/12
U used the senns?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 10:28 AM - 05/10/12
Yes, I have the same issue, when I remove the Fiio E6 and just connect using the Headset Buddy, I can hear everyone talking, but as soon as I add the Fiio, I can barely hear anyone.  Not sure if that's the same issue you have, but I tried a variety of configurations with my DSS2, and couldn't get it to work properly.

So for some reason my Fiio E6 doesn't seem to be amplifying the sound chat coming out of the controller. Anyone run into this issue?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 10:50 AM - 05/10/12
I can still hear fine when it's going through the Fiio E6, but the volume doesn't seem to do anything.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:04 AM - 05/10/12
so i just bought the HD-598 headphones and got my friends old DSS because people were saying it was better then the DSS2. what other things will i need if i want chat in the headphones? ZALMAN ZM-MIC1 was something that someone said would work and i saw the astro mixamp but i want to know if there is anything im missing?

set xbox audio settings to "play through speakers" and attach the zalman mic with a 2,5mm to 3,5mm adapter to the controllers mic port


@ sandak

does the fiio work properly?
test it with an ipod or so, maybe you mixed up the in and out?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: sandak on 11:40 AM - 05/10/12
I'll check with my iPhone... I've checked in and out 100 times, I'm pretty sure they are right.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 11:45 AM - 05/10/12
Yes, I have the same issue, when I remove the Fiio E6 and just connect using the Headset Buddy, I can hear everyone talking, but as soon as I add the Fiio, I can barely hear anyone.  Not sure if that's the same issue you have, but I tried a variety of configurations with my DSS2, and couldn't get it to work properly.

So for some reason my Fiio E6 doesn't seem to be amplifying the sound chat coming out of the controller. Anyone run into this issue?

Turn chat volume to full in xbox preferences. Put the switch into the middle position so the Fiio is not locked then then press volume up.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: mist4fun on 11:47 AM - 05/10/12
I just got the razer chimaera. It's not the best headset but it's good enough. I got it so I can have a complete wireless experience when running it through my mixamp. The chat cable connects between the chimaera base to the mixamp then to the controller. I'm also able to listen to my pc and a second input at the same time with this setup.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 11:49 AM - 05/10/12
I just got the razer chimaera. It's not the best headset but it's good enough. I got it so I can have a complete wireless experience when running it through my mixamp. The chat cable connects between the chimaera base to the mixamp then to the controller. I'm also able to listen to my pc and a second input at the same time with this setup.

Is this the 5.1 headset?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 11:56 AM - 05/10/12
U used the senns?

I use the PC360 most of the time then the DT770 pro. Only because the mic boom is so convenient for me. If I wanna chat I pull it down, if I wanna go silent I pull it up. Also I  feel like when I am using my other said headphone It seems like I am talking louder but on the PC360 I can here myself talk so I don't have to raise my voice in chat. My other headphone has much better SQ however compared to the PC360 which still IMO meets my SQ expectations.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:09 PM - 05/10/12
Would you say they are good? Iv used hd555s and got ad700s so not sure if i should
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: mist4fun on 12:38 PM - 05/10/12
It's the stereo headset. The way I would have had to route the 5.1 headset it would have used he stereo connections. The mixamp is supposed to covert it to 5.1 anyway.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:04 AM - 05/11/12
Over ordered the senn pc360s and astro mixamp  :P
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 12:27 AM - 05/11/12
Over ordered the senn pc360s and astro mixamp  :P

You won't be disappointed. I'm running the same setup. However, I've never used any other good cans so my comparison is limited. The premium price for the mic was so worth it especially because I use them with Lync at work or if I'm gaming and need to yell at my woman. ^_~
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 12:51 AM - 05/11/12
yeh iv got hd555s ad700s and orcas, my hd555s are modded to the max lol and i was going to do the same with the ad700s but i fiugred i want a premade quality all in one i can use on both xbox and pc and not have to worry that my solder joints are perfect or the cables dont snag and break due to a weak mod
fortunately i spent a hell of alot of time on the hd555s and love them to bits and never had any issues

(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152420.jpg)

(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/IMG_20110912_152459.jpg)

but just for that  the mic is solid and built in and the rest

cant wait for it to arrive lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 02:40 AM - 05/12/12
hey guys is this an alternative to the astro y adapter?   
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PC-Headset-Smart-phone-Adapter-Dual-3-5mm-3-5mm-/280765033058?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item415ee66a62#ht_6227wt_1272

Can't buy the astro one as postage is too expensive to aus for something so small.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:09 AM - 05/12/12
no

it will work but theres no real isolation on the cable as you can see
have a cellphone next to it or something emitting magetic waves and all you will hear is LKAJDSLKAJSDLKADSJKlads

do not save on cable prices, the weakest part in the audio chain is responsible for the quality you get
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 11:20 AM - 05/12/12
Quality reply od1n
Are there any high quality 3rd party cables or would it be best for customs? I might make a decent one as astro cables are terrible I find

from what i remember is this the right pinout for the splitter?

(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/rosswaa/3830088256_46368c9236_o.jpg)

if it is ill make my own as iv got some van damme starquad and hicon connectors kicking about  ;D

cheers
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 04:58 PM - 05/12/12
thanks for that.

there must be a decent 3rd party one? I'm not paying $25 postage for a $7 cable.

astro shipping prices are ridiculous. Only reason i'm getting it because someone is selling the mixamp on ebay in australia so im getting it pretty cheap. Wouldn't even consider it otherwise because of the postage.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 05:06 PM - 05/12/12
astro cables arent that bad after all, surely there are better quality cables out there, but for the work they have to do they are sufficient for sure
you cannot expect good quality from the very old xbox soundcard, in addition to that the regular game uses extremly tight compressed soundfiles
the combination of both makes it even worse

therefore astro cables offer more quality than you might need for the xbox useage
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 06:13 PM - 05/12/12
astro cables arent that bad after all, surely there are better quality cables out there, but for the work they have to do they are sufficient for sure
you cannot expect good quality from the very old xbox soundcard, in addition to that the regular game uses extremly tight compressed soundfiles
the combination of both makes it even worse

therefore astro cables offer more quality than you might need for the xbox useage

Truth

You could have pure gold interconnects and it wouldn't sound any better
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 07:24 PM - 05/12/12
The gold plated plugs are more for anti erosion purposes rather than better audio anyway... But you shouldnt worry too much about your cables unless the interference is really bad.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: scrotesmd on 08:33 PM - 05/12/12
Im guessing the xbox720 should be 7.1
Title: Re: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: stetab on 09:31 PM - 05/12/12
The gold plated plugs are more for anti erosion purposes rather than better audio anyway... But you shouldnt worry too much about your cables unless the interference is really bad.

Not plated, just gold :P
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: RoskaL on 01:36 AM - 05/13/12
astro cables arent that bad after all, surely there are better quality cables out there, but for the work they have to do they are sufficient for sure
you cannot expect good quality from the very old xbox soundcard, in addition to that the regular game uses extremly tight compressed soundfiles
the combination of both makes it even worse

therefore astro cables offer more quality than you might need for the xbox useage
I don't mean for sound, all the headset y splitters I have had from astro break and crackle like mad, I want something that will last and won't have to worry about with having to spend the 15 quid for something that will only last a few weeks
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 02:23 AM - 05/13/12
astro cables arent that bad after all, surely there are better quality cables out there, but for the work they have to do they are sufficient for sure
you cannot expect good quality from the very old xbox soundcard, in addition to that the regular game uses extremly tight compressed soundfiles
the combination of both makes it even worse

therefore astro cables offer more quality than you might need for the xbox useage
I don't mean for sound, all the headset y splitters I have had from astro break and crackle like mad, I want something that will last and won't have to worry about with having to spend the 15 quid for something that will only last a few weeks

http://intrl.startech.com/Cables/Audio-Video/Audio-Cables/35mm-4-Position-to-2x-3-Position-35mm-Headset-Splitter-Adapter-Male-to-Female~MUYHSMFF   

or

http://www.theheadsetbuddy.com/pc-computer-headset-to-3-5mm-smartphone-adapter/

on amazon as well but they wont ship to me in australia :(
fine for most of you guys obviously.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: x DOS X EQUiS x on 11:33 AM - 05/15/12
Does anyone know if the USB port in the front of the DSS is only used for power? I ask because I have my eyes set on this PC headset that uses USB connection istead of the usual mic and headset jacks. Can someone confirm this. TB did say that  the DSS can be used on any headset/headphone.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: mikael on 12:29 PM - 05/15/12
Yes, its just to power it. I tried that and it doesnt work.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 10:22 PM - 05/21/12
With help from here, I figured out how to hook the DSS2 up with the FiiO E6 to get voice chat w/volume control to work with my headset.
Here's an image to show where all of the wires go for those needing help.
The headset adapter I have on my controller, is from HeadSet Buddy, it's their new prototype 360 adapter I got when the wired version I had kept slipping out of the wired 360 controller. This one fits nice and snug.

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s377/GrenZeiram/Headset_Setup/IMG_2423.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 11:30 PM - 05/21/12
You are not producing hiss with that construction? Its so incredible you need such a cable trap to make this work without a Mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:01 AM - 05/22/12
nice job... let that be your intro to pro audio.... and dont have anything using rf signals close to it... but nice job man
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:29 AM - 05/22/12
nice headset you have there, but lol @ the sticks of that controller, even the dpad has one!


@ roads

maybe no hiss due to that halo custom microsoft controller?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 06:05 AM - 05/22/12
Surprisingly I do not hear a hiss with this setup! Yes, the wires drive me crazy, since I game on a couch with the XIM3.
I have a wireless 5.8 MixAmp that I like, because of lack of wires, but if I have the volume and voice nobs in a certain configuration, I will get a hiss. I've figured out where to keep the volume on the MixAmp to where I like it. The only time it gets adjusted is when my son uses the mixamp with his headset.

Normally I'm using the XIM3 with this setup, so add to the wires a wired 360 controller, mouse & NAV!

For the sticks on the controller, I have an old pair of control freak tops, which I had a bad habit of popping them off when playing a game, usually in the heat of a battle, I'd be killed almost as soon as they came off, so I found another solution, modsticks, which replace the original 360 sticks. You have to take your controller apart to put these on, but they never pop off when gaming, and you can adjust the height with various spacers. For the D-Pad I drilled a hole in the center of it and screwed in a nob to make it easier to reach.

For the headset/headphones, I went through so many brands, looking for the sound I liked best, I finally ended with the MMX-300s because, to my ears, the sound quality seemed the best.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 08:20 AM - 05/22/12
You compared the MMX 300s to DT770 pro 80 Ohm Beyers?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 09:11 AM - 05/22/12
The list of headset/headphones I've bought and tried are:
Astro A40 (bought in 2008, I believe)
Tritton AX Pro
Sennheiser PC-360
Astro A40 (2011 version)
Sennheiser HD-595
Yapster TM-YB100A (my son's headset)
MMX-300

I sold all of them except for the HD-595, Yapster & MMX-300. Technically the Yapster isn't mine, but I bought it for my son, since he's rough on headsets, for $15 it does a decent job, and if he breaks it, I don't feel bad dishing out another $15 to replace it. I use the HD-595 for music mostly and some iPad gaming. MMX-300 all for gaming and movies (If it's just me watching) I haven't tried anything else, I've had all of them at once at one time, and after testing for a long time, I decided to keep the ones I liked the best.
I never did try the DT770s, I was going to get them, but I decided (especially with my new daughter) that I spent enough on headset for awhile.

I've used the wired and wireless mixamps from Astro, and also the DSS & DSS2. I really like the DSS2 because of the equalizer it has, and the ability to adjust the location of the surround sound.  If it was wireless, that would be a big bonus. 

If anyone wants my opinion on any of the headset/headphones that I've used, let me know, and I'll give you my thoughts on them.
 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 09:32 AM - 05/22/12
The 770s are said to have less bass. I calle dBeyer back then and had a chat with a technitian he recommended the 770s over the MMX saying they would be more "woodchopper". Good thing about the MMX, you dont have to mod them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: willthetech on 11:25 AM - 05/22/12
Astros FTW!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:27 AM - 05/22/12
The list of headset/headphones I've bought and tried are:
Astro A40 (bought in 2008, I believe)
Tritton AX Pro
Sennheiser PC-360
Astro A40 (2011 version)
Sennheiser HD-595
Yapster TM-YB100A (my son's headset)
MMX-300

apart from the sennheiser and the beyer the rest of that list is decent @#$% :)
you can be glad to have picked that headphone over the others
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GrenZeiram on 12:18 PM - 05/22/12
The 770s are said to have less bass. I calle dBeyer back then and had a chat with a technitian he recommended the 770s over the MMX saying they would be more "woodchopper". Good thing about the MMX, you dont have to mod them.

What does "woodchopper" mean?   ???
I've never heard that term used before in audio!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 12:26 PM - 05/22/12
He meant more bass less hights.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 01:03 PM - 05/22/12
basically your headphone is the bass monster under the bass monsters, therefore the woodchopper term
with the dss2 you can regulate the bass as far as i know, therefore you should be fine

(bass usually plays against precise audio positioning)
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 09:42 PM - 05/22/12
Just got ad700's in the mail with my astro mixamp. It's amazing. Awesome value for what you get.

I'd reccomend this setup to anyone.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 12:29 AM - 05/23/12
Same here!!
Feels spectacular when you play MW3 with it, you virtually hear everything in their precise direction  ;)
Not those with Dead Silence though  :-\
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: kryptik66 on 12:17 PM - 05/23/12
Same here!!
Feels spectacular when you play MW3 with it, you virtually hear everything in their precise direction  ;)
Not those with Dead Silence though  :-\

There has been a recent patch and now if you use SitRep Pro you can hear everyone including Dead Silence players
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 12:40 PM - 05/23/12
Same here!!
Feels spectacular when you play MW3 with it, you virtually hear everything in their precise direction  ;)
Not those with Dead Silence though  :-\

There has been a recent patch and now if you use SitRep Pro you can hear everyone including Dead Silence players

That's right. N they r patching it again so that u don't hear your own footstep if u wear Dead Silence.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 01:34 AM - 05/30/12
Just got ad700's in the mail with my astro mixamp. It's amazing. Awesome value for what you get.

I'd reccomend this setup to anyone.


I actually want to build on this somewhat, I haven't had too much test time with it because of uni assessment... but this is what I'm getting so far.

Basically i used x11's for 2 years or so, so generally im used to avg stereo sound while playing. What I'm getting right now is that I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the ad700's. I don't know if it's the mixamps surround sound or the ad700's huge soundstage.

It feels like i hear things miles away that I could not hear before but i can't differentiate  how far away it is too well, It feels like im hearing so much more and I'm being overwhelmed.

it might just be a practice thing because im not used to it from using the 11's for so long.


In the short time frame I've played so far, I did pick up some pretty sweet soundwhore kills, but it also got me killed a few times as I wasn't used to the soundstage/ clarity.

Anyone have experience like this? I'm assuming it's just something I'll adjust to and get better with practice.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 06:35 AM - 05/30/12
Just got ad700's in the mail with my astro mixamp. It's amazing. Awesome value for what you get.

I'd reccomend this setup to anyone.


I actually want to build on this somewhat, I haven't had too much test time with it because of uni assessment... but this is what I'm getting so far.

Basically i used x11's for 2 years or so, so generally im used to avg stereo sound while playing. What I'm getting right now is that I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the ad700's. I don't know if it's the mixamps surround sound or the ad700's huge soundstage.

It feels like i hear things miles away that I could not hear before but i can't differentiate  how far away it is too well, It feels like im hearing so much more and I'm being overwhelmed.

it might just be a practice thing because im not used to it from using the 11's for so long.


In the short time frame I've played so far, I did pick up some pretty sweet soundwhore kills, but it also got me killed a few times as I wasn't used to the soundstage/ clarity.

Anyone have experience like this? I'm assuming it's just something I'll adjust to and get better with practice.

Which Mixer / decoder are you using?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 06:37 AM - 05/30/12
astro mixamp.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: willthetech on 06:56 AM - 05/30/12
I had this set up before – ad700 with the mix amp, and yes you will know the direction someone’s fart is coming from in the game ,they have that good of soundstage. I got rid of them not because of the soundstage and lack of base but because I didn’t like to have 2 cereal bowls covering my ears. The bad thing is not getting used to the new soundstage but using another headset and having no soundstage at all.:(

Astros FTW!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 07:09 AM - 05/30/12
astro mixamp.

I think you can reduce the soundstage by enabling the "tunnel" effect on the mixamp..
The bottom is above the 2.5mm jack... Does that help?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 07:16 AM - 05/30/12
I had this set up before – ad700 with the mix amp, and yes you will know the direction someone’s fart is coming from in the game ,they have that good of soundstage. I got rid of them not because of the soundstage and lack of base but because I didn’t like to have 2 bowls of cereal covering my ears. The bad thing is not getting used to the new soundstage but using another headset and having no soundstage at all.:(

Astros FTW!

yeah i know everyone said the soundstage was good, but this is insane! ha.

astro mixamp.

I think you can reduce the soundstage by enabling the "tunnel" effect on the mixamp..
The bottom is above the 2.5mm jack... Does that help?

not sure what you mean by this? is there supposed to be a button near the 2.5mm controller jack on the mixamp?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: willthetech on 07:47 AM - 05/30/12
I had this set up before – ad700 with the mix amp, and yes you will know the direction someone’s fart is coming from in the game ,they have that good of soundstage. I got rid of them not because of the soundstage and lack of base but because I didn’t like to have 2 bowls of cereal covering my ears. The bad thing is not getting used to the new soundstage but using another headset and having no soundstage at all.:(

Astros FTW!

yeah i know everyone said the soundstage was good, but this is insane! ha.

astro mixamp.

I think you can reduce the soundstage by enabling the "tunnel" effect on the mixamp..
The bottom is above the 2.5mm jack... Does that help?

not sure what you mean by this? is there supposed to be a button near the 2.5mm controller jack on the mixamp?

I think he means the sorround button on the right side, that will disable the whole 5.1 emulation thing :( , you will get used to them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Oxxy on 08:01 AM - 05/30/12
ahh yeah, no thats not the problem. 

But yes you're right, I think definitely over time i'll get used to it the more I use it.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 11:55 AM - 05/30/12
the reason should be the game, i guess mw3?
stuff like sitrep pro do ruin it in this direction, also the overall sound quality is quite bad

in games like bf3 you are able to judge distances via audio a lot better as the soundfiles arent compressed to 10kb
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 05:29 PM - 06/03/12
Just ordered a senn pc350, senn pc360, and astro mix amp.  A lot of distracting background noise at my house so thought i might get detracted with the open ear design of 360 but now i will be able to try them both out see which i like best and take back the one i wont use. Anyone have experience with these headsets and mixamp?Everything i read pretty much said it was a good mixamp but that the senn headsets were better and since i didnt want to mod anything i went with what i thought was top of the line senn gaming headset with built in mic.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 06:03 PM - 06/03/12
a good choice, i guess youll settle for the pc360 ;)

as for the background sound, yes maybe a closed headphone might be the better choice
when i wear mine, i dont even hear when my cellphone is ringing or someone knocks the door lol
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 06:49 PM - 06/03/12
Yes for isolation closed are great.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: KnOck on 08:39 PM - 06/03/12
Yes for isolation closed are great.
great sound sweaty ears:P in mw3 its not needed at all for sound whoring but i like full no touching my ears headphones more than sore ears after 2 hours
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 06:08 PM - 06/06/12
Just tested the pc360 sound quality is a huge improvement over my tritton ax pros but sound separation or the ability to tell exactly where the sounds are coming from is not as distinct.  I might have to get used to single drivers vs tritton.  Going to try the 350 now but im sure they are going to be the same.  On the trittons you have the ability to turn the base all the way down which allows you to hear footsteps better is there anyway to do this with the astro mix amp?(im assuming not). Does the dss or dss2 give you better sound distinction over the astro? or is there another mix amp that will give you better sound positioning? My main goal is to sound whore and tell exactly where foot steps and gun shots are coming from.  front left right back ect... 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 07:45 PM - 06/06/12
Liking the pc360 better. The 350 have a slight bit more bass but i actually want less bass so i can hear footsteps better.  I can hear the highs a little better on the 360 might be because the added bass on 350 drowns them out.  Also was sweating my head off with the 350.00 even though it was nice not to hear the little ones yelling.   Since ive improved my in game audio i now want to get rid of that annoying humm that comes in thru the xbox chat line.  Has anyone tryed connecting a Ground loop isolator thru the mic line? Was wondering if it would effect the way i hear or sound to others on xbox live.  I always turn the game audio off in between mw3 rounds becuase the music is so annoying and when doing so the hiss from the mic line really stands out. was thinking of this. 

I have a chat cable with 2.5mm male on one end and 3.5mm male on other with astro mix amp that has 2.5mm female input.

GLI -  http://www.amazon.com/PAC-Ground-Isolator-3-5-Applications/dp/B001EAQTRI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339033108&sr=8-1

3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter - http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Female-Stereo-Headphone-Adapter/dp/B002OLITRY



I would use the chat cable to plug the 2.5mm male directly into controller and the other 3.5mm male into the ground loop isolator. I would put the 3.5mm male output of the ground loop isolator into a 3.5mm female to 2.5mm male adapter and plug that directly into the astro mix amp. Has anyone tried this?
Title: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 10:21 PM - 06/06/12
Found out what my idle hiss is from when first powering on. Pc360 with astro mixamp. Tried batteries and pulling and replugging crossover no bueno. Pulled controller 2.5mm and bingo. Cable may be damaged or getting feed back from other cables as its bundled with all the other cables but I did buy shorter cables. Might try a higher quality better shielded cable that is shorter to see if it fixes the problem.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: roads on 10:39 PM - 06/06/12
YOu might also try another wired controller if you can. The crappness lies within!
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 10:42 PM - 06/06/12
its the xim3 that's producing it if i remove the xim3 from the equation my hiss goes away ive always had it with every headset its coming from the chat cable but only when using xim3. i figured this might be a way to filter it out.  Have anyone of you compared the dss or dss2 with the astro mix amp? Thoughts on them?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: amak1 on 02:50 AM - 06/07/12
the hiss sucks but it doesn't matter in game. trust me its not clouding your acoustic vision. remember analog tape, hiss central but in the end hiss is a part of analog and everyone would agree the sound caracteristics of analog are far superior to digital.


anyway some ppl have disabled lights in their controllers and peripherals and that has reduced the hiss, might be worth a try. i havnt tried the filters yes but toys reccommends them.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: GodToMen on 05:06 AM - 06/07/12
so im still using a HD-598 and a zalman mic with the dss... is there a way to get chat to play into the headset where i can boost it separate from the in-game audio?
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: iDarkness on 06:50 AM - 06/07/12
Best at the lowest budget : Astro Mixamp PRO + SteelSeries Syberia V2.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: deFiniLoGy on 07:32 AM - 06/07/12
Best at the lowest budget : Astro Mixamp PRO + SteelSeries Syberia V2.

Just don't buy "Gaming headset".
They suck in sound quality.
But Astro Mixamp PRO is good though, or you can get a TB DSS2 /DSS,
pair it up with a headphone (Audio Technica AD700 for me) then a clip on mic or mod mic (search on google).
Title: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: holidayshrimp on 07:09 PM - 06/07/12
Best at the lowest budget : Astro Mixamp PRO + SteelSeries Syberia V2.

Just don't buy "Gaming headset".
They suck in sound quality.
But Astro Mixamp PRO is good though, or you can get a TB DSS2 /DSS,
pair it up with a headphone (Audio Technica AD700 for me) then a clip on mic or mod mic (search on google).

Pc360 is marketed as a gaming headset and it rocks. Hd555 drivers at over double the price but flipping mutable mic is worth it. Not all suck. Most do though.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 08:55 PM - 06/07/12
holiday do u keep the dolby button  on or off? i have xbox set to 5.1 and with dolby button off on astro i can hear sound placement/ separation  better but with it on footsteps are louder but a little harder to pin point exactly where they are. i  think it sounds better on but keep trying it both ways
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 09:07 AM - 06/08/12
@ zTrueFear

great post, you clearly havent read any comment in this topic or else youd know your setup is somewhere in the lowest region when it goes about "Best Xbox gaming headsets"
i can do better gameplay than in this video with my akg, does that mean my setup is better?!
(well yes it is, but you get what i mean, gameplay shows not a lot about the capability of ones setup :P)



@ Blessup

the hiss was fixed in a very old firmware already, you usually only should experience it with turtle beach x11 or x21 & dss
also the steelseries mixer can be a reason, but any other headset shouldt have the hiss anymore
actually there where close to none his reports after the patch

this makes me thinking its not your xim but one of your adapters
yes the xim3 changes the electricity flow and yes this results the hiss, but with proper cable and controller you wont hear it as its isolated



@ GodToMen

yes you can, but only with the dss2
with dss1 there are ways but it adds too much wires and adapters, you wont like it at all
(tuffrabit went that way somewhere in the 40 pages range i think, and he hated all the wires and extra boxes lol)

with dss2 its much easier as you just need 2 more wires and a preamp
but i heard dss2 quality is not as good as dss1 (yet better than mixamp)
never had the dss2 though
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 08:31 PM - 06/09/12
i would agree with you od1n but if i leave everything setup exactly as is but remove the xim3 from the equation the his goes away.  Im going to try a ground loop isolator and see what happens.  ive had it thru every headset mixamp combo ive tried.  Own tritton ax pro, astro mix amp with pc350 and pc360.  wireless model of turtle beach but i took those back couldn't stand them, and even the stock Microsoft chat headset.  Its a wine noise that goes thru the chat line can really be hurd when cranking up the chat volume in-between games. 
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 07:33 AM - 06/10/12
as i said, yes its true that the xim3 changes something and is somehow responsible for the hiss, but again with proper working devices this is not heard at all, not even on sound 100% in a quiet surrounding
that means that either your controller is faulty or some other parts of your setup, its not the xim3!

see arctic for example, he uses the very same setup as you and doesnt experience any hiss
or a friend of me, also xim3 users, has a pc360 + mixamp and also has no hiss
such like any other mixamp users with other headphones, none of them has a hiss

if really every mixamp user has this hiss, we would have much more hiss topics in this forum

also i doubt a ground loop isolatior will help as im sure some of the other cables are bad isolated or broken
for the first id try to borrow an original ms controller from a friend to see if it removes the hiss
then id change the chatport cable from the mixamp
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 10:44 AM - 06/10/12
using a brand new ms controller and new chat cable.  The his will also go away if i unplug that chat cable.  I think most people dont make a big deal of it because its not audible during game.
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:42 PM - 06/10/12
brand new controller doesnt have to say anything about being faulty or not, in most cases its just the headset port that has some issues
its a pretty common issue, google it up and youll find A LOT of complaints about it

try to get a hand on a different controller if you can, preferably new and ms branded
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: BlessUp on 08:14 PM - 06/11/12
So ive been using this astro mix amp with pc360 for a few days now and the sound quality is good but im not happy with the positional audio.  I can figure out where enemies are by hearing their footsteps but i only know where they are ruffly located due to the floor sound they are running on.  Im thinking about buying the dss2 since a lot of reviews shows it has a higher audible frequency response and the new dss2 also has some effects that might help like speaker angles. My biggest concern is being able to control voice chat and turning down game volume in between games so i dont have to hear that awful mw3 music. Is it possible to run the voice thru the astro and the game audio thru the dss2 so i can control game and voice chat independently.  Or do i need to purchase an adapter like this?

http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Spectrum-Audio-Mixer-Xbox-360/dp/B004BK45CO

And does the dss2 sound just as good as the original dss?

Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: Od1n on 02:48 AM - 06/12/12
your plan works, yes
actually both do
however i dont see any real gain with that setup when playing mw3, the sound is just that bad
no device will or can make better sound out of a bad soundfile
Title: Re: Best Xbox gaming headset??
Post by: FreshNsoClean on 11:56 AM - 06/12/12
So ive been using this astro mix amp with pc360 for a few days now and the sound quality is good but im not happy with the positional audio.  I can figure out where