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Title: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 02:52 AM - 09/28/11
The hip isnt great but the ADS is loads better then anything ive tried. My very first and I'm tweaking blind really so go easy.

HIP:

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.15


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0

In game sens at max...tweak sensitivity to your liking.

***update from Mist*** (give all configs a try though)

Quote from: mist
The new exact deadzone is 5571 for both hip and ads, consider that when tweaking your config.

Quote from: zen
Can someone that liked 3800 on the beta try 4455 please?

Its crude but I just took off the difference between Mist old 4916 between my 3800 and applied it to the 5571.

So I'd like to hear from someone that liked and used 3800.

Cheers

Zen
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Dirtee on 06:39 AM - 09/28/11
BEAUTIFUL!!

Buy far the best one! Smooth as a babies butt and fast accel!!

Got sinsi on 20 for both on my 1600dpi mouse!

Udpade!

Got my deathadder respawn today!! Set it to 1000hz polling, 3500dpi then have the xim sensi set to 18 and 16

Its awesome!!!  Never been able to follow runners that have run past and snipe them dead all whilst in zoom before!
Simply awsome!


Cheers dude!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 07:22 AM - 09/28/11
Wow thanks man. I'm sure there's so glaring problems with it. I just kept tweaking until tweaks werent helping. Hopefully some one like mist will look at it and clean it up. The ADS is good for me though
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: RedTalon on 08:51 AM - 09/28/11
The ADS is very good Zen. The hip is pretty decent too.

This is now my choice over the Reach ST.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 09:27 AM - 09/28/11
Cheers dude, glad people are getting some joy from it.

 I'm going to have another tweak at the HIP one but I'm very happy with the ADS. Anymore tweaking on it is giving negligible results, that's probably due to my in-experience..

There might be a good ST to use for the HIP...but I'm going to give the HIP one more tweak tonight. See if I can get it better. I'm sort of getting used to how I've set it up now though....I keep just getting in to games and playing....ultimately I know its not worth spending too much time tweaking as the ST will be coming from OBsIV on launch.

please feel free to tweak and report back guys....I'll update the config with anything that works.

Deadzone and x.y are spot on though IMO
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: MegaMassacre on 10:18 AM - 09/28/11
Woo, thanks Zen for the config. I'll try it out tonight. Couldn't play BF3 last night cause the servers were down or something. EA never learns.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 10:21 AM - 09/28/11
If you are having trouble getting on its always worth trying to sign out of your profile and clear systems cache. Let me know how you get on with this.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: MegaMassacre on 10:24 AM - 09/28/11
If you are having trouble getting on its always worth trying to sign out of your profile and clear systems cache. Let me know how you get on with this.

Will do. I was suprised I was the only one out of my 96 friends that had the Beta. Sucks playing with a squad that like to lay prone in the back of the map >_>
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Quad Damage on 10:34 AM - 09/28/11
Good config, thanks.
Better than the STs I tried - Reach, BF, CoD.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 10:41 AM - 09/28/11
Great config zen atta boy now we haVe something ready for everyone joining tommorrow... Good job and @#$% is the look mechanic on this game good... It is ridiculously glitchy.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: pulpbiggles on 10:52 AM - 09/28/11
I like this config, feels good both hip and ads. Need to turn my sensitivity down though!! This config really improves the grainy feeling feeling I was getting on small movements.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 11:06 AM - 09/28/11
No grain here but yea I have my sensetivity down aswell... Hip is fast as hell... But yea man great job again.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 12:33 PM - 09/28/11
So glad you guys are getting some joy with it. I did go to tweak the hip sens but I doubt there's better I can come up with. I think that's a job for the smart translator.



Once the tweaking goes over 20 mins its hard to see the wood for the trees so I'll leave it there and maybe Mist or someone with some experience can take a look
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 12:36 PM - 09/28/11
Well I been playing gears for a week so everything feels crazy fast to me
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: RedTalon on 12:39 PM - 09/28/11
Played it for a few hours today Zen. For the hip I ended up using the Reach ST and your ADS config for the ADS.  Fast and accurate run and gun + headshot city.

Good job!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Ultim8 on 01:09 PM - 09/28/11
zen is that -50.0 on hip or -0.50,  gonna get on now and play with your config,  sounds good mate well done.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 01:22 PM - 09/28/11
Played it for a few hours today Zen. For the hip I ended up using the Reach ST and your ADS config for the ADS.  Fast and accurate run and gun + headshot city.

Good job!

Sweet I'll test that. Most of my tweaking time was spent on the ADS as I thought it was needed the most.

Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 01:23 PM - 09/28/11
zen is that -50.0 on hip or -0.50,  gonna get on now and play with your config,  sounds good mate well done.

Hello mate,,,,,,updated the post its -0.50
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Ultim8 on 01:58 PM - 09/28/11
try hip at -0.40 mate feels bit better for me.  ADS is awesome got 8000+ points in a game :D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 03:29 PM - 09/28/11
I tried it at -0.40 but got positive acceleration.

I found a range for both the ADS and HIP that works well but done so much tweaking I've gone blind to change.

Can you guys try out the ADS and HIP at 4200 deadzone and let me know if you think its better or worse.

Anything over or under 3850-4200 doesnt feel good so the sweet spot is in that range. Maybe the answer is  bang in the middle at around 4000. anyway please test for me and report back.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Ultim8 on 03:39 PM - 09/28/11
will do mate,  had enough for one night but getting my ratio back up after last nights testing.

Current ratio is 1.337  yes that is correct how good is that!!! :)  means Elite in gaming slang for those that don't know :P
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 03:56 PM - 09/28/11
You guys notice most of the ppl lying prone arnt bipoding lmg's.... Killed two full squads trying to prone to alpha in the grass... @#$%? Are bf kids that happy they got prone now? Lol
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Ultim8 on 04:19 PM - 09/28/11
yeah prone is good,  also bipods are on assault too.
Game feels so much more responsive compared to BC,  really does feel like cod.

Guns feel really good too, recoil is great and your really benefit from burst firing.

Laser pointers in your eye, halogen bulbs, scope glint,  heavy barrels, bipods.....just gets better everything is balanced and has pro's/cons.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: jaltuve on 07:37 PM - 09/28/11

3850 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.25

I've been working on my own config for the PS3 and figured out the dead zone to be around 4200 SQUARE, but I got the absolute best results setting it to around 3800. My accel and DD values are also EXACTLY like the ones I'm having good results with the PS3, so my guess is that the look mechanics for both the XBOX and PS3 version will be identical.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: RJP on 09:11 PM - 09/28/11
The hip isnt great but the ADS is loads better then anything ive tried. My very first and I'm tweaking blind really so go easy.

HIP:

3850 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.25


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

3850 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0

In game sens at max...tweak sensitivity to your liking.

If someone that knows what they are doing wants to step in be my guest  8)
Thanks man the best iv used so far
Thumbs up from me
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: asdone on 10:32 PM - 09/28/11
Amazing!!!
Thank you very much
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Dirtee on 10:37 PM - 09/28/11
I tried it at -0.40 but got positive acceleration.

I found a range for both the ADS and HIP that works well but done so much tweaking I've gone blind to change.

Can you guys try out the ADS and HIP at 4200 deadzone and let me know if you think its better or worse. And the ADS with 0.15+ DD and let me know about those 2 separately?

Anything over or under 3850-4200 doesnt feel good so the sweet spot is in that range. Maybe the answer is  bang in the middle at around 4000. anyway please test for me and report back.

Tried both for an hour and honestly i cant tell the diffence!

HIP seems a little slower if anything
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 12:32 AM - 09/29/11
Yeah I'm going to leave it where it stands.....thanks for trying it out.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 12:34 AM - 09/29/11

3850 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.25

I've been working on my own config for the PS3 and figured out the dead zone to be around 4200 SQUARE, but I got the absolute best results setting it to around 3800. My accel and DD values are also EXACTLY like the ones I'm having good results with the PS3, so my guess is that the look mechanics for both the XBOX and PS3 version will be identical.

Thats awesome...good work sir
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Dirtee on 02:36 AM - 09/29/11
Yeah I'm going to leave it where it stands.....thanks for trying it out.

I actually like the hip being a little slower than the first attempt!
As then theres not as much contrast between hip and ads.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Gabbagod on 02:47 AM - 09/29/11
Wish these configs were good for me. My deathadder 1800 only ever seems to accept my own settings, other people's configs never seem to feel right. Hopefully ill get better results with my Mamba. Read good things about Zen's config so dying to try it. I think it's the Deathadder's negative acceleration that makes other configs feel strange or maybe because im on a cloth pad at the moment and everything feels too slow.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 02:49 AM - 09/29/11
Hmm I had to step my sens way down for this config.... At 5700 its quick as hell for me.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: willthetech on 04:11 AM - 09/29/11
@Zen I am new to this...do i choose custom config and then make the changes or do i choose the old st and then make the changes.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 04:43 AM - 09/29/11
I would reccomend copying bc2 so you have the binds already then change the translator to standard and settings from there
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Dirtee on 05:05 AM - 09/29/11
Wish these configs were good for me. My deathadder 1800 only ever seems to accept my own settings, other people's configs never seem to feel right. Hopefully ill get better results with my Mamba. Read good things about Zen's config so dying to try it. I think it's the Deathadder's negative acceleration that makes other configs feel strange or maybe because im on a cloth pad at the moment and everything feels too slow.

I dont have a deathadder (3500dpi version on the post :-)) but my old 1600dpi gigabyte gm m6880 works wonders with zens settings !

Im not fantastic player but today on my birthday i had massive fun sniping the top (ridiculusly high level already) players out! One by one! I was a mashine! Lol

And couldnt have done it without zens settings lil

You shall also enjoy this when your mamba arrives! Deffo! Lol
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Gabbagod on 05:09 AM - 09/29/11
Im not fantastic player but today on my birthday i had massive fun sniping the top players out!

Happy birthday! Good way to spend your birthday me thinks!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: SiNister on 07:04 AM - 09/29/11
i changed the deadzones to 4900 on both and it works better imo. Ps3 btw.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: jaltuve on 07:27 AM - 09/29/11
i changed the deadzones to 4900 on both and it works better imo. Ps3 btw.

I'm also using a PS3. I determined the DZ to be around 4200 using a trick that was mentioned sometime ago in this forum, which is setting sensitivity to 0.01 and moving the mouse like crazy until there is 1 pixel movement in-game.

4200 seems to be the exact dead zoze value, but I use 3800 which gives me a bit more control. Also, unlike BC2 which is round, DZ for BF3 is SQUARE and requires about -.25 dampen to feel right. I assume going over or under 4200 is a matter of preference..

Zen configuration is definitely spot on.. it simply requires some adjustments and thats it.

Zen, thank you very much sir!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 07:32 AM - 09/29/11
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Interesting tip about the deadzone. I just did it by moving the mouse mm's to get it to register and kept tweaking. That's a great tip though thanks.

Oh and just had a little tweak with the deadzone as I've seen a couple of people mention 3800 as mine was so close I thought I'd round it down. Doesnt really make a difference but it keeps things simple so I updated the first post.

Everytime I try more tweaks I get nothing else back and just stick to the OP.

I heard people mention Mist getting on the ST vibe for this....is that possible to get something? Be great if we could.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 09:25 AM - 09/29/11
Here is what I came up with.

Deadzone 4922 sq[]
Sens 12 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.50
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 0
Diag Damp 0.04


Deadzone 4922 sq[]
sens 22 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.60
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 0
Diag Damp 0.00

I like to think the forum helped with the movement speed. So good job guys. :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Beezles on 09:28 AM - 09/29/11
can't wait to expirement tonight! woot woot! wife has it all downloaded and ready to go :D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 09:40 AM - 09/29/11
Here is what I came up with.

Deadzone 4922 sq[]
Sens 12 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.50
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 0
Diag Damp 0.04


Deadzone 4922 sq[]
sens 22 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.60
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 0
Diag Damp 0.00

I like to think the forum helped with the movement speed. So good job guys. :)

Sweet....what I'm going to do tonight is set this up separate then and use a config switch to go between the OP and this. Nice way to compare. Will post back thoughts. thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 10:00 AM - 09/29/11
Theres a bit of acceleration that needs to be compensated for. after that is smooth like butter.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 10:03 AM - 09/29/11
WhT do you guys hVe your ads delay set at? I think it might be throwing me off a little in twitch encounters.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: troysloth on 10:15 AM - 09/29/11
WhT do you guys hVe your ads delay set at? I think it might be throwing me off a little in twitch encounters.

I set mine to 64ms.  I don't know if there is really much of a delay in BF games, but that's what I use for BC2 and works ok there.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 10:32 AM - 09/29/11
they added ads toggle. Kinda cool. will need to set it up with switchers. which sucks because need them for vehicles but still really nice to have.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: JerryHatrick on 10:34 AM - 09/29/11
Nice Zen, very nice indeed :)

Thanks mate
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 10:49 AM - 09/29/11
WhT do you guys hVe your ads delay set at? I think it might be throwing me off a little in twitch encounters.

I think you may get an instant sens switch on BF3 but do the 64ms as mentioned.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: KnOck on 11:37 AM - 09/29/11
great config man you made it playable ;D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 11:53 AM - 09/29/11
Yep zen sounds good... Knock told you so lol  :P
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: mist4fun on 12:00 PM - 09/29/11
Great config zen! It feels really good. The only thing I changed was the deadzone, Kodeks deadzoner gave me an exact deadzone of 4916 for both hip and ads. Thanks for the config.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 12:05 PM - 09/29/11
Master seal of approval lol
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 12:06 PM - 09/29/11
Here is what I came up with.

Deadzone 4922 sq[]
Sens 12 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.50
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 0
Diag Damp 0.04


Deadzone 4922 sq[]
sens 22 -adjust as needed
Accel. -0.60
Y-X Ratio 1.80
Smooth 4 added smoothing to ads
Diag Damp 0.00

I like to think the forum helped with the movement speed. So good job guys. :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: FarKim on 01:12 PM - 09/29/11
Thanks Zen, your settings work great for me.
Sensitivity in this game is crazy fast which is great. At 5700 dpi I have sensitivity of 12/15.

Anyone know if we're likely to receive a ST for this during the beta?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 01:59 PM - 09/29/11
Great config zen! It feels really good. The only thing I changed was the deadzone, Kodeks deadzoner gave me an exact deadzone of 4916 for both hip and ads. Thanks for the config.

nice......I'll give that a shot. Glad its got your stamp of approval! Is the ST out of the question I guess? I heard talks of doing a slightly dodge one but dont know if that's possible
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Darth_Spud on 02:02 PM - 09/29/11
Well i thought i'd give these settings a go and WOW! I went 28 - 9 on fist go! I did however change the ADS deadzone to 3850 - Just felt slightly better to me  :o Well done Zen, best config so far!!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Massicor on 02:02 PM - 09/29/11
Hmm weird zens settings turned out to be REALLY BAD for me :S anyways i used the halo reach config for both hip and ADS and it was decent  ..got 42 - 2 with sniper (and iv only played 3 games) cant wait for the accual ST ...gonna rape everyone :D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Massicor on 02:09 PM - 09/29/11
accually i might have made 1 or 2 mistakes with the settings :P didnt put " minus" on
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: TRT568 on 02:13 PM - 09/29/11
Used Zen's settings with mist's deadzone and it seemed excellent. Certainly good enough to hold us over until the retail release and corresponding ST is released. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 02:18 PM - 09/29/11
+1 if this was bad company it would need an ST. I'm not saying it doesnt need one. I'm saying it works really well with just a standard. The ST will be awesome. But no need to mess around trying to halfway make one with this glitchy beta.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 02:22 PM - 09/29/11
Used Zen's settings with mist's deadzone and it seemed excellent. Certainly good enough to hold us over until the retail release and corresponding ST is released. Thanks :)

I'll set up a config switch with both and compare. If I prefer I'll update the OP with mists deadzone.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: xhellionx on 02:48 PM - 09/29/11
i used Zen's ADS config and used Reach ST for hip and then switched the hip deadzone to Mist's suggestion and voila!  beast mode=engaged.  i am playing on ps3 however...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Edwood on 02:55 PM - 09/29/11
There is very little acceleration, pretty much no aim assist, and weirdness added to the movement in the BF3 Beta.  It's the flattest movement I've ever seen in an XBox 360 game.  I guess that's what happens with a quick and sloppy PC port.

Zen's settings with Mist's deadzone works the best so far for me.  Better than the Reach ST by far.  Very linear movement, very fast, very snappy.  Love it.

Not saying that an ST wouldn't be better, but tweaking this set up more, will likely get it 90-95% of the way there.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 03:00 PM - 09/29/11
Awesome that you guys are digging mist deadzone. I'll get on as soon as I can and update the OP if needs be. Cant connect right now though...think UK is having some problems with servers
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: ZioComposite on 03:17 PM - 09/29/11
It was tweeted about 1hr ago 360 is down at the moment.  Pending a fix.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: JP360 on 03:26 PM - 09/29/11
Using Zenīs config and 5700dpi on the mouse which sensitivity values are you guys using assuming that the game sensitivity is set to max?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: KnOck on 06:28 PM - 09/29/11
It was tweeted about 1hr ago 360 is down at the moment.  Pending a fix.
maybe its the sliding around on the @#$% glitch they are looking at lol
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 06:32 PM - 09/29/11
Using Zenīs config and 5700dpi on the mouse which sensitivity values are you guys using assuming that the game sensitivity is set to max?
Thanks.
The sensitivity in-game is always set to max. always assume this when viewing configs. On the xim 3 try sens around 12.00.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Gnice4u on 06:35 PM - 09/29/11
Another thank you to Zen.  Your settings work well for me.  The primary reason for me getting the Xim was to be "sharp" for BF3.  I've only had my Xim for a very short while, but couldn't be happier.  And a large part of that satisfaction comes from great community support like Zen provided.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: hmmjudge on 10:08 PM - 09/29/11
I've seen the most success with mist's deadzone setting.
I like to make very fine movements with my mouse, and the 4916 deadzone gives me better success with this.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Incognito on 11:37 PM - 09/29/11
Props Zen, I'm using your exact settings with the default sensitivity of the BF:BC2 translator and it is fantastic.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Darth Tatertots on 01:14 AM - 09/30/11
Zen, congrats on the standard trans, it works awesome!  I am using mists deadzone as well, my xim sens is at 12 for hip, 15 for ads and it works great!  Played for 4 hours and never changed a thing once i got my sens dialed in.

Again zen, thanks for the time and effort, well worth it!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 01:47 AM - 09/30/11
Tried the 4916 config on a switcher so I could toggle between the two and I get much more grainy skipping on 4916. 3800 seems to have a smoother higher fidelity for me. Try them both out on a switcher so you can toggle configs while ADS. Using the pistol makes it really obvious. May be difference of mice though. But try this technique to see which works best for you
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Brutalimp on 03:13 AM - 09/30/11
This works amazing dude, I just got a round where I got 95 kills with the bolt action rife using iron sights with this config. I felt like I was deer hunting lol.

I was able to make very precise movements and pick off people across the map with no scope using this config. If that's not proof of how precise it is, I don't know what is. I also felt like 3800 DZ was more smooth than the 4916 DZ.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Beezles on 05:07 AM - 09/30/11
I haven't tried the 3800 DZ, but the 4916 worked fine for me.  My sensitivities are @ 15 for both hip and ADS, 5700 dpi.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: jaltuve on 05:10 AM - 09/30/11
Tried the 4916 config on a switcher so I could toggle between the two and I get much more grainy skipping on 4916. 3800 seems to have a smoother higher fidelity for me. Try them both out on a switcher so you can toggle configs while ADS. Using the pistol makes it really obvious. May be difference of mice though. But try this technique to see which works best for you

using 4916 seems to skip a lot and is not as smooth. 3800 seems to be definitely a sweet spot. Zen, you have a PS3 as well? have you tried this config?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 05:48 AM - 09/30/11
Nope just egg box 360
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: asilver on 06:51 AM - 09/30/11
Zen, you rock.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 06:54 AM - 09/30/11
You're welcome dude. Can wait to see how the smarty performs games going to be awesome with it.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: KrazyKarl on 07:18 AM - 09/30/11
nice 1 zen, played a bit last night and it felt great....very CoD like quikness with bf3....cant wait for the 25th and a smarty!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Loki on 08:40 AM - 09/30/11
I haven't tried the 3800 DZ, but the 4916 worked fine for me.  My sensitivities are @ 15 for both hip and ADS, 5700 dpi.

Thanks, I will try this 8)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: xhellionx on 09:07 AM - 09/30/11
Tried the 4916 config on a switcher so I could toggle between the two and I get much more grainy skipping on 4916. 3800 seems to have a smoother higher fidelity for me. Try them both out on a switcher so you can toggle configs while ADS. Using the pistol makes it really obvious. May be difference of mice though. But try this technique to see which works best for you

using 4916 seems to skip a lot and is not as smooth. 3800 seems to be definitely a sweet spot. Zen, you have a PS3 as well? have you tried this config?

i retract my original statement regarding this config.  i am using this config on ps3 and it works decent...probably not as smooth as it is on xbox though.  there definitely is some acceleration issues on ps3.  it works ok for now though.  i'll try tweeking for ps3. 
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Beezles on 09:27 AM - 09/30/11
I haven't tried the 3800 DZ, but the 4916 worked fine for me.  My sensitivities are @ 15 for both hip and ADS, 5700 dpi.

Thanks, I will try this 8)

i'm a fairly high sensitivity player
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: mist4fun on 09:30 AM - 09/30/11
Really? Weird. That's where deadzoner reports movement, anything under that number should be skipping, anything over should have an acceleration/floaty/lurching forward feel. Anyway, as always use what feels best for you.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: willthetech on 09:33 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Juncti on 09:34 AM - 09/30/11
This worked great for the few minutes I managed to connect to the beta.

Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Ultim8 on 09:40 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!

Found this:

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/xXJon2011Xx/BF3controls.jpg)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: jaltuve on 09:42 AM - 09/30/11
Really? Weird. That's where deadzoner reports movement, anything under that number should be skipping, anything over should have an acceleration/floaty/lurching forward feel. Anyway, as always use what feels best for you.

Mist,

Is there an easy way for you obtain the DZ value for the PS3? can it be done?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: tuffrabit on 09:45 AM - 09/30/11
Mist would have to have a PS3 and a converter to run the XIM3.

The transfer cable and the .net deadzoner should work equally well if hes got all that.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: RedTalon on 09:50 AM - 09/30/11
Mist would have to have a PS3 and a converter to run the XIM3.

The transfer cable and the .net deadzoner should work equally well if hes got all that.

What? No bacon?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: dmxwyrw on 09:53 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!

Found this:

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/xXJon2011Xx/BF3controls.jpg)

Some of these are off. fire select is d-pad down. back is spot and hold for scoreboard. or is this the alternitive mapping?
I didnt change anything in my config from BC2 and it works great. dpad up down is the only thing changed/added from bc2.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: amak1 on 10:02 AM - 09/30/11
Hmm if the smartys work equally well for xbox and ps3 why wouldnt the standard translator?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: willthetech on 10:09 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!

Found this:

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/xXJon2011Xx/BF3controls.jpg)


Thanks!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: willthetech on 10:10 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!

Found this:

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/xXJon2011Xx/BF3controls.jpg)

oh thats right...i can get the mapping from the bc2 ST

Some of these are off. fire select is d-pad down. back is spot and hold for scoreboard. or is this the alternitive mapping?
I didnt change anything in my config from BC2 and it works great. dpad up down is the only thing changed/added from bc2.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 10:12 AM - 09/30/11
Really? Weird. That's where deadzoner reports movement, anything under that number should be skipping, anything over should have an acceleration/floaty/lurching forward feel. Anyway, as always use what feels best for you.

That's the weird thing I'm getting the acceleration/lurching with the 4916 deadzone. I doubt I would notice in blind test but with a switcher set up it was very obvious as I could ADS and move around the iron sights while toggling between the two.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: dmxwyrw on 10:16 AM - 09/30/11
shoots mist4fun is the master. but, I got 4922 which is close to 4916. i tired it at both and don't have issues. did you try that setup I posted zen? does it suck?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: KrazyKarl on 10:19 AM - 09/30/11
Can someone please post the controller button mapping for bf3 for xbox 360, I would like to set it up before I start playing. Thanks!

Found this:

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/xXJon2011Xx/BF3controls.jpg)

my lb is grenade....and this maybe a stupid question but this is my first bf game ive played....what is spot/social??and are they even in bf3??seems like that button map is from a diff. game....oh and commo rose, what is this?? :o
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: mist4fun on 10:21 AM - 09/30/11
Yep anything between 4916 and 4980 registers micro movement. 4916 is where the smallest pixel movement occurs, you really have to look for it. :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 10:27 AM - 09/30/11
shoots mist4fun is the master. but, I got 4922 which is close to 4916. i tired it at both and don't have issues. did you try that setup I posted zen? does it suck?

It didnt suck and I know where you're coming from with smoothness but it adds interpolation weirdness. So even though it give the appearance of smoother aiming its not giving more fidelity but it is creating floatyness. I experimented with it a lot before but prefer it off.

No tweaks that I do seem to bring anything better (Or much worse) but its good that people are posting tweaks so all can try different stuff. Thanks for posting yours up dude.

Doing the toggle switcher is great for comparing setting otherwise you just go numb to differences.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: mist4fun on 10:34 AM - 09/30/11
Yeah definitely, that's how I compare configs too. I haven't actually used your deadzone yet, I immediately grabbed the deadzone from deadzoner and then used the rest of your config. I'll check it out this afternoon.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: Zen on 10:41 AM - 09/30/11
Please do Mist. I'd really like to know if its a difference of mouse wares or something else.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config*
Post by: tuffrabit on 12:09 PM - 09/30/11
Mist would have to have a PS3 and a converter to run the XIM3.

The transfer cable and the .net deadzoner should work equally well if hes got all that.

What? No bacon?

Should be the same transfer cable that got a grease bath.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: Zen on 12:16 PM - 09/30/11
Just managed to get a final tweak that adds something. Change the hip DD from -0.25 to -0.15. Now feels more one to one in the hip. Please update and feedback.

Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: dmxwyrw on 12:40 PM - 09/30/11
yeah taking the DD down is much better.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: tnk on 01:01 PM - 09/30/11
For me I have a strange mix of both deadzone's that work, for the hip, I use Zen's 3800, but for ADS, 3800 causes skip's so setting it to mist's 4916 worked like a charm, am using a G700 set at 5700 dpi, with 10 sens on ADS and 15 on hip, very wierd. Is having two different deadzone values normal, and does it always depend upon mouse brand/type and dpi used?

Thanks a lot to Zen and mist for the great config info.... am loving this beta.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: Zen on 01:25 PM - 09/30/11
yeah taking the DD down is much better.

I kind of just stuck that on first time around with a bit of tweaking. This time I set up two config and kept tweaking and switching and -0.15 gave best results. Feels decent at the hip now...happy with that
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: mitchy on 01:42 PM - 09/30/11
ive been using:

4916
5.00
-0.25
1.80
0
0

ADS is the same except 6 sens and 1.65 y-x
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: RedTalon on 01:44 PM - 09/30/11
Uh Zen, shouldn't the subject be "Updated 30 Sept"? :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: KrazyKarl on 01:50 PM - 09/30/11
Just managed to get a final tweak that adds something. Change the hip DD from -0.25 to -0.15. Now feels more one to one in the hip. Please update and feedback.

gonna give it a try now  8)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: kyuubi on 01:57 PM - 09/30/11
I have to admit, this is by far the best standard translator I've used in any game.  Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: KrazyKarl on 03:57 PM - 09/30/11
so in the time i was changing the new DD value the ea servers went down again...so i played a game of blops(raped 35-7 :) ) and it felt so easy compared to bf3..so after that game bf3 was back online and i played a couple games(15-5 and 13-6) and i have to say the DD increase was noticably different and better IMO...those last two games are compared to me struggling to break even in the 6-6 range and usually ending up in the 6-9,10,15 lol range with a 17-10 game as an exception...once again, great standard config zen.....oh yeah, and for the first time i use mist's 4916 dz..so yeah those 2 changes combined made a good difference so thanks mist 4 that too
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: KrazyKarl on 04:01 PM - 09/30/11
to add to my above post...this is my first bf game so dont knock the sh!t score if it is, lol...and im still wondering from the button map posted earlier,what is spot/social??and are they even in bf3??seems like that button map is from a diff. game....oh and commo rose, what is this?? :o  do these things apply to bf3?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: mist4fun on 06:24 PM - 09/30/11
The spot button is the xbox back button, if you hold it too long it will display the scoreboard. I'm not sure commo rose is in the game for consoles, is it?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: dmxwyrw on 06:49 PM - 09/30/11
I think the only thing is say crosshairs on an objective like mcomm station to order an attack.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: easy10pins on 07:54 PM - 09/30/11
The hip isnt great but the ADS is loads better then anything ive tried. My very first and I'm tweaking blind really so go easy.

HIP:

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.15


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0

In game sens at max...tweak sensitivity to your liking.

If someone that knows what they are doing wants to step in be my guest  8)

What translator did you use as your base?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: dmxwyrw on 08:00 PM - 09/30/11
none its a standard translator
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: RESISTANCE on 08:06 PM - 09/30/11
props a noob question, But how do i set these settings from scratch? I've never done it.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: dmxwyrw on 08:40 PM - 09/30/11
watch the videos here http://xim3.com/?page_id=187
change the translator to standard and then enter the settings.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: RESISTANCE on 08:43 PM - 09/30/11
watch the videos here http://xim3.com/?page_id=187
change the translator to standard and then enter the settings.

lol, I checked that page & didn't see that video now i see it, I'm blind as a bat.

Thank you, Will post feedback once i try it out.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: striker777 on 09:46 PM - 09/30/11
Awesome work Zen, Thanks!  Being playing BF3 Beta on the PC and decided to try it out on the 360.  The XIM3 works great with your settings. Got 2nd place after I mapped my buttons correctly.

PSA: Fire Mode is your friend folks.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: NY Dynasty on 09:48 PM - 09/30/11
watch the videos here http://xim3.com/?page_id=187
change the translator to standard and then enter the settings.

so I would use the BC2 translator then?  n thanks for this setup guys, I tried the beta last night n got owned!!!  had to play with a controller as I didnt know which ST to use (I see some ppl here used the reach) and was tempted to try it out on the 360.  will give this a shot in the morning...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: Incognito on 10:21 PM - 09/30/11
Yeah, you're best off starting with the BF:BC2 translator and changing the Smart to Standard for both Hip (Primary) and ADS (Secondary) and enter the values in Zen's original post.  By using the BC2 translator the key binds will be pretty close to what you'll probably want to use for BF3 and it'll save you some time.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: FarKim on 10:23 PM - 09/30/11
Just had a quick test of 3850 vs 4916. First test both looking down pistol sights and small amount of game play and I was unable to tell the difference.
I will do more testing tonight as I have it set up with a switcher.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: NY Dynasty on 11:04 PM - 09/30/11
Yeah, you're best off starting with the BF:BC2 translator and changing the Smart to Standard for both Hip (Primary) and ADS (Secondary) and enter the values in Zen's original post.  By using the BC2 translator the key binds will be pretty close to what you'll probably want to use for BF3 and it'll save you some time.
thanks, its my first time doin this, I actually only used the xim3 for BC2, luckily it had a premade ST.  I would copy the BC2 one, make my changes and then rename it, right?  the beta is pretty glitchy though, had a lot of issues ADS but not gonna cancel my preorder either way...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: five4time9champs on 11:33 PM - 09/30/11
just tried these setting and my 1st match on bf3 i went 26-13. love em!!!! i like the fast movements. why does the gfx look glitchy though? beta glitches maybe?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: scottpriley on 11:35 PM - 09/30/11
question,  i know what the deadzone is but how to u edit it on the xim3. i went to smart advanced i saw everything except for that
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: amak1 on 11:40 PM - 09/30/11
Dont switch it to smart advanced switch it to standard... Then youll see the settings.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: scottpriley on 11:42 PM - 09/30/11
lol thank you, went 42-11 with the bc2 hope this makes it even better
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Nov
Post by: PhilAshio on 12:39 AM - 10/01/11
4916 feels great for general twitch gameplay but it can't handle precision sniping. While you can't feel aim assist at 4916, 3800 is a little too sticky with aim assist.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 12:57 AM - 10/01/11
Just had a quick test of 3850 vs 4916. First test both looking down pistol sights and small amount of game play and I was unable to tell the difference.
I will do more testing tonight as I have it set up with a switcher.

Yeah without a switcher it would be too hard to compare.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 12:58 AM - 10/01/11
4916 feels great for general twitch gameplay but it can't handle precision sniping. While you can't feel aim assist at 4916, 3800 is a little too sticky with aim assist.

Have you tried turning the aim assist off?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 12:59 AM - 10/01/11
Uh Zen, shouldn't the subject be "Updated 30 Sept"? :)

Yeah I was being a dumb @#$% :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: amak1 on 01:59 AM - 10/01/11
Yea tried the new dd and it does work a little better.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 02:32 AM - 10/01/11
Yea tried the new dd and it does work a little better.

Its a minor change. This games going to need a smarty to really get the juice out of it. Can't wait for full release.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: JP360 on 03:37 AM - 10/01/11
You use aim assist off?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 03:43 AM - 10/01/11
No I keep it on but I doubt it will make much difference. It didnt do much on BC2
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: b1eachy on 03:56 AM - 10/01/11
lol had a @#$% week at work.... came home downloaded beta.... got your config.... instant smiles.

nice work Zen your a godsend

Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Dirtee on 05:49 AM - 10/01/11
just thought i had to show the awesomeness on the xim3 with zen's settings on BF3

(http://i51.tinypic.com/b6enuv.jpg)

i can't even remember getting over 35 kills in a bfbc2 match lol! must be BF3 insane sensitivity!  i likey!!

we lost also! lol

Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: PhilAshio on 09:33 AM - 10/01/11
4916 feels great for general twitch gameplay but it can't handle precision sniping. While you can't feel aim assist at 4916, 3800 is a little too sticky with aim assist.

Have you tried turning the aim assist off?

I usually don't like to turn AA off because games that give you the option seem to have a bunch of other stuff going on with AA like bullet magnetism. I'll give it a try though. Even with AA sniping is much better at 3800.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Oshi7 on 09:49 AM - 10/01/11
Stupid question... how do I set it to be a square dead zone? It just has a circle next to it.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: b1eachy on 10:34 AM - 10/01/11
u move to the circle with ur pad and press up or down... not sure which...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: ki11er on 10:35 AM - 10/01/11
This really is better than the smart translator for BF2, thanks for the holdover till the smart translator comes out :)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: ki11er on 11:04 AM - 10/01/11
For some reason, I am having issues with this deadzone, I still skip around everywhere.


Ive only read first and last page so I will go and read the inbetween pages. mx518

****EDIT*******


4200 works wonders for me for ADS. Hip is fine as it is.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Lunchbox on 11:10 AM - 10/01/11
Wow i just looked at my BF3 config( Zen's) and realized i been using a circle dead zone vs a square dead zone. Will change to square and test it out. Is there a major difference between using a a circle or a square dead zone ?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: mykal on 11:14 AM - 10/01/11
Nice config Zen, one of the best standards I've tried.  I'll be switching between 3850 and 4916 to see which dz feels better to me.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: mykal on 11:16 AM - 10/01/11
Wow i just looked at my BF3 config( Zen's) and realized i been using a circle dead zone vs a square dead zone. Will change to square and test it out. Is there a major difference between using a a circle or a square dead zone ?

Yes, especially when moving your mouse diagonally.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 03:29 PM - 10/01/11
Wow i just looked at my BF3 config( Zen's) and realized i been using a circle dead zone vs a square dead zone. Will change to square and test it out. Is there a major difference between using a a circle or a square dead zone ?

Yes it will make a huge difference.

Glad to see more people enjoying this,.

Ki11er Try out 4200 and 4916. Set them up on a switcher and toggle between them.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Lunchbox on 03:29 PM - 10/01/11
Ya the square dead zone made a difference. You were right mykal its really better on the diagonal movements.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Lunchbox on 03:31 PM - 10/01/11
Iam using the 3800 dead zone right now. Will try out 4200 / 4916.  Oh and Zen thanks for creating this config.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 03:37 PM - 10/01/11
No worries dude. I enjoying tweaking away like a geek ;D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 04:28 PM - 10/01/11
tried it Zen with Mist's DZ at 4916 and it was definitely very responsive n smooth, felt better than the controller I was forced to use, lol....but sad to say, I still only went 6-15, 4-15, and 7-12  :o  Obviously, I got a lot of work to do, definitely need to know this map a bit more n the overall gameplay.  I run a g700 at 5700dpi so my sensi is only at 8/10.  Will try the DZ at 4200 but I seriously doubt it will make an immediate positive impact on my K/D, lol....thanks again...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 04:30 PM - 10/01/11
O h yeah, how do u go prone?  I only done like 2 times n it was by accident!!!  before this, I only played BC2 for a year in the BF series...
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Dirtee on 04:39 PM - 10/01/11
O h yeah, how do u go prone?  I only done like 2 times n it was by accident!!!  before this, I only played BC2 for a year in the BF series...

hold down the crouch button!

i used down scroll for crouch in bfbc2 which don't work if you need to prone so i switched it to forward mouse button!

and now have reload on down scroll ( still need to hold reload to pick up kits but if i scroll slowly it acts like a hold and picking up kits is not used as much as prone so I'm happy with that)

also constantly tapping the BACK button (set to circle on my sony nab controller) will spot peeps also in any KIT!!

very handy and racks up score!


Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 05:02 PM - 10/01/11
Also, under the Video tab in the options page where u can also adjust brightness, what is the "open screen adjust" for?  I was playing with it but left it at fully open, should this be set at a certain spot?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: ki11er on 05:15 PM - 10/01/11
It still seems whatever I do(talking about ADS), it still moves about an inch back and forth  even if I move my mouse the smallest amount.

Heres what I got(I have tried the 4916, 4200, 3800

Hip:
DZ: 3800 square
Accel: -.50
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: -0.15

ADS
DZ: 4200 square
Accel: -.45
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: 0
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: paulg123 on 07:10 PM - 10/01/11
Sorry I've only just got my xim couple days ago and I want to try zen's settings for bf3 but how do you adjust  both sets of settings in one configuration for hip and ads ? I'm missing something here
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: mist4fun on 08:03 PM - 10/01/11
When editing the config press Y to access the secondary mouse settings page (ads).
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: CrossCrucial on 08:43 PM - 10/01/11
It still seems whatever I do(talking about ADS), it still moves about an inch back and forth  even if I move my mouse the smallest amount.

Heres what I got(I have tried the 4916, 4200, 3800

Hip:
DZ: 3800 square
Accel: -.50
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: -0.15

ADS
DZ: 4200 square
Accel: -.45
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: 0


What are your sensitivities set to? Try using something low like 12 HIP and 15 ADS. add a small delay of 24-32ms as well.

This config has worked great for me, after having not using my xim3 for over a month. G700 5700DPI.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Sleepy on 03:10 AM - 10/02/11
Also, under the Video tab in the options page where u can also adjust brightness, what is the "open screen adjust" for?  I was playing with it but left it at fully open, should this be set at a certain spot?

I put the Arrows all the way to the edge of my screen and when playing in game my HUD was bleeding over the end of the screen, so I put it back to default. I say leave it at default, either that or its beta and its borked and not working as intended.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 04:48 AM - 10/02/11
tried it Zen with Mist's DZ at 4916 and it was definitely very responsive n smooth, felt better than the controller I was forced to use, lol....but sad to say, I still only went 6-15, 4-15, and 7-12  :o  Obviously, I got a lot of work to do, definitely need to know this map a bit more n the overall gameplay.  I run a g700 at 5700dpi so my sensi is only at 8/10.  Will try the DZ at 4200 but I seriously doubt it will make an immediate positive impact on my K/D, lol....thanks again...

Give 3800 a try as well. You wont notice a difference between any of them though unless you set them up on a switcher. Its so subtle to keep testing blind.

Even 3900 for me gives worse results then 3800. So try them all out.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 05:24 AM - 10/02/11
Also, under the Video tab in the options page where u can also adjust brightness, what is the "open screen adjust" for?  I was playing with it but left it at fully open, should this be set at a certain spot?

I put the Arrows all the way to the edge of my screen and when playing in game my HUD was bleeding over the end of the screen, so I put it back to default. I say leave it at default, either that or its beta and its borked and not working as intended.
sorry, but was is the default??? ???
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 05:24 AM - 10/02/11
tried it Zen with Mist's DZ at 4916 and it was definitely very responsive n smooth, felt better than the controller I was forced to use, lol....but sad to say, I still only went 6-15, 4-15, and 7-12  :o  Obviously, I got a lot of work to do, definitely need to know this map a bit more n the overall gameplay.  I run a g700 at 5700dpi so my sensi is only at 8/10.  Will try the DZ at 4200 but I seriously doubt it will make an immediate positive impact on my K/D, lol....thanks again...

Give 3800 a try as well. You wont notice a difference between any of them though unless you set them up on a switcher. Its so subtle to keep testing blind.

Even 3900 for me gives worse results then 3800. So try them all out.

will do Zen....
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: ki11er on 07:34 AM - 10/02/11
It still seems whatever I do(talking about ADS), it still moves about an inch back and forth  even if I move my mouse the smallest amount.

Heres what I got(I have tried the 4916, 4200, 3800

Hip:
DZ: 3800 square
Accel: -.50
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: -0.15

ADS
DZ: 4200 square
Accel: -.45
Y-X: 1.8
Smoothness: 0
DD: 0


What are your sensitivities set to? Try using something low like 12 HIP and 15 ADS. add a small delay of 24-32ms as well.

This config has worked great for me, after having not using my xim3 for over a month. G700 5700DPI.

Ive got a 1600 dpi mouse, 12 sensitivity would be nothing . . .
Ive also been around for a while, just had a break from xbox, its not something simple like sensitivity.

HEY MIST! WHATS UP! lol
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: ki11er on 11:58 AM - 10/02/11
Ive done a little more experimenting, and maybe it is just the game.
I tried it with the controller on max sensitivity and it seems that the amount that it moves is the smallest that the game will allow. Hopefully they will do some more tweaking before the actual game comes out because so far I am not impressed with the beta.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: dmxwyrw on 12:38 PM - 10/02/11
I've also found that small movements to the left are less then to the right.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: mist4fun on 12:51 PM - 10/02/11
^^ Some games are like this, duke nukem for example.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Chubby Skunk on 01:09 PM - 10/02/11
@#$%. How do you set the Deadzone?!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 02:57 PM - 10/02/11
after using this config for 4 hrs the only problem ive found with it is making very small adjustments when sniping long range or even long range with a acog 4x M16 it jerks a little to much instead of smooth. But all round this config is amazing and i thank Zen for it, cant wait for a proper ST tho :D

Yeah it can only go so far. I've tweaked more and more but it never offers more fidelity then whats been put in this thread already. I too am really looking forward to the ST.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: BradFazner on 03:30 PM - 10/02/11
thanks zen!  works great, and was lots of fun!  ;D
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Od1n on 07:01 PM - 10/02/11
@#$%. How do you set the Deadzone?!

load a smart translator you dont need / copy an existing smart translator

press edit config, and the right at the very first page, you will see something like Translator : Smart
change this to "standard" and you will get access to all the values you need for Zen's config
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: chrome- on 08:18 PM - 10/02/11
4916/4916 works good for me...using g500 mouse, if there is a better setting let me know..
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: NY Dynasty on 08:43 PM - 10/02/11
after using this config for 4 hrs the only problem ive found with it is making very small adjustments when sniping long range or even long range with a acog 4x M16 it jerks a little to much instead of smooth. But all round this config is amazing and i thank Zen for it, cant wait for a proper ST tho :D

Yeah it can only go so far. I've tweaked more and more but it never offers more fidelity then whats been put in this thread already. I too am really looking forward to the ST.
will adding some smoothness help with this?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 01:04 AM - 10/03/11
after using this config for 4 hrs the only problem ive found with it is making very small adjustments when sniping long range or even long range with a acog 4x M16 it jerks a little to much instead of smooth. But all round this config is amazing and i thank Zen for it, cant wait for a proper ST tho :D

Yeah it can only go so far. I've tweaked more and more but it never offers more fidelity then whats been put in this thread already. I too am really looking forward to the ST.
will adding some smoothness help with this?

No its just interpolated. So while it may seem smoother and provide more fidelity it doesnt, its just the appearance at the cost of lag and a slightly floaty feeling. I've experimented with the 1-5 range and it just ultimately degrades performance...its weird because it makes performance look better at the expense of the response being reduced.

If you want to add a little dont go above "5" on Hip & ADS...that gives the best effect of smoothing without effecting performance too much.  But what it seems to give on one end it takes away from the other.

Be interested in more people trying it out though and see. I've tested smoothing for at least 30 mins so far and "5" was the sweet spot as above. Can some give this figure I try and post back thoughts.

I always like to re-test stuff with new eye on a different day/

So

Smooth "5"

on both ADS & HIP and report back to see what you think.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: lR3ACTOlR on 08:47 AM - 10/03/11
I have been using this config and its really good. Has anyone had the issue where all of a sudden the XIM loads a different configuration? For some reason sometimes it will load my BC2 config after I respawn or the match first starts. It has happened a good 8 times in about 12 hours worth of gameplay for me.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 08:52 AM - 10/03/11
I have been using this config and its really good. Has anyone had the issue where all of a sudden the XIM loads a different configuration? For some reason sometimes it will load my BC2 config after I respawn or the match first starts. It has happened a good 8 times in about 12 hours worth of gameplay for me.

I;ve not had though.....sure you havent set up a weird switcher along the line?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Threewheels on 10:18 AM - 10/03/11
Zen, this is a very good starting point.  I used this a bit yesterday, and made a few little tweaks, but haven't had very much time with the game yet to really hone it in.


Also, for anyone that is having issues with ADS being a bit jumpy, try taking the deadzone down to 3700.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: CaptSackJparrow on 01:01 PM - 10/03/11
same with it being a little jumpy. I think its an excellent setup zen I just find extremely precise  movements over long range jumpy.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 02:33 PM - 10/03/11
same with it being a little jumpy. I think its an excellent setup zen I just find extremely precise  movements over long range jumpy.

Have you tried these deadzones? 4200 & 4916?

TBH I cant get any more fidelity out of the XIM3 on this standard config however much I tweak (And I've tweaked alot). So its as far as it can be taken without a ST.

only a week left on the beta now anyway
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Jdawg on 04:48 PM - 10/03/11
This standard config is amazing!! I've been using it the last couple of days and it feels like it seriously could be a smart translator XD. The game handles quite beautifully with the Xim 3 too!

Great job Zen :D

Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Gnice4u on 09:22 PM - 10/03/11
What are your sensitivities set to? Try using something low like 12 HIP and 15 ADS. add a small delay of 24-32ms as well.

This config has worked great for me, after having not using my xim3 for over a month. G700 5700DPI.

Are others finding 24-32ms delay working for them as well? 
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Slain Immortal on 10:35 PM - 10/03/11
Zen this config is awesome! Thank you so much for your work in getting this fine tuned. This is way better than anything I was fiddling with on my own. Excellent work. God, I love my Xim3.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: amak1 on 10:42 PM - 10/03/11
@#$% zen you made a lot of ppl very happy with this .... I switched my delay to immediate seems to work fine for me.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: clybonic on 11:07 PM - 10/03/11
AWESOME WORK ZEN!!!!
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 12:46 AM - 10/04/11
@#$% zen you made a lot of ppl very happy with this .... I switched my delay to immediate seems to work fine for me.

That's what I use.

And yeah its nuts how many people are using this.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: mushroom on 04:52 PM - 10/04/11
zen.... this is just for you :

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8545/dsc00015gx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/dsc00015gx.jpg/)

thanks great config!!!! I FK them^^
the next party i do 54 7 bot no pics sry (done with Mk11 modo 0)
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Zen on 12:41 AM - 10/05/11
Well done dude. That's awesome. I had a good 55-6 game yesterday running the SCAR. That's actually too many good guns in this game. I'm glad they unlock slower in retail
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: SoFistdecaydead on 02:00 AM - 10/05/11
Slightly off topic, but has anyone figured how to get a decent switcher setup going with ADS lock enabled?
There seems to be a lot of maneuvers that disengage ADS (sprint, prone, reload, sidearm, knife), and because of such, I have to bind a 2nd switcher key in the case where my ADS lock Config is still enabled, and I am no longer ADS.
The only theoretical answer I have found to this is to use 1 config for both Hip/ADS, but I am sure that secondary mouse settings do not stay in affect if the Right Click is pressed, rather than held.
Any ways around this?
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: Edwood on 02:09 AM - 10/05/11
Man this game is so damned unstable, well, the EA Servers are at least.  I think I might have to pass on this one.  I was going to get the PC version until I heard about the mandatory spyware browser thing.  @#$% that.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: FarKim on 02:50 AM - 10/05/11
I've tried 3850 and tried 4916 and after a lot of testing... I can't tell the fricken difference, so I'm going with 3850. In case anyone is interested, I have the delay set to immediate with no problems.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: dmxwyrw on 09:39 AM - 10/05/11
Actually in browser works really well. there's voice chat before entering a server. no need to setup team-speak. some people have trouble with that. Its alot more like xbox plus you can choose what server to enter and take your whole group with you.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: SkeptiicaL on 10:06 AM - 10/05/11
The hip isnt great but the ADS is loads better then anything ive tried. My very first and I'm tweaking blind really so go easy.

HIP:

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.15


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0

In game sens at max...tweak sensitivity to your liking.

If someone that knows what they are doing wants to step in be my guest  8)

srorry im new but what is DD? and what is deadzone i assume this is with smart advanced correct? i dont see DD or deadzone anywhere
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: dmxwyrw on 10:14 AM - 10/05/11
in the config screen select standard as the translator.
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: SkeptiicaL on 10:29 AM - 10/05/11
in the config screen select standard as the translator.

ah ok thank you
Title: Re: Zen's work in progress BF3 Standard Config***Updated 30th Sept
Post by: jwdavis1 on 02:44 PM - 10/05/11
Man this game is so damned unstable, well, the EA Servers are at least.  I think I might have to pass on this one.  I was going to get the PC version until I heard about the mandatory spyware browser thing.  @#$% that.

Go play MW3. This "unstable game" is a 1 month old (at open beta release) client, with minimal functionality. The open beta is primarily to test server load and DICEs new infrastructure/server back end. Most if not all of the bugs we see in this old client were already or have been addressed since 9/29. It's a beta, understand what you are participating in.

It's responses like this that make we seriously understand the types of gamers that play FPS's. I went into GameStop to pre-pay my preorder this week and they told me they had 5 cancellations that morning because of the "crappy beta"... I could not be happier that those kiddies are going back to blops and MW3. It's just less fail in my squad at release of BF3 :). /soapbox

RTFM

Dax
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:47 PM - 10/05/11
You guys don't seriously think that DICE just took the nightly build from Sep 28th and made the beta?  The build we are running is most likely months old and has already had most if not all of the bugs fixed.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: jwdavis1 on 02:48 PM - 10/05/11
Mushroom makes me look like a nub! Zen I love your profile. Thank you a million.
(http://oi55.tinypic.com/al4vi9.jpg)

My config if anyone is interested - G13 and G500
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/msox36.jpg)

Dax
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: mushroom on 08:28 AM - 10/06/11
lol this is a good game too! (try mk11 with 4x scope or simple red dot, in cqb one shot in chest or head kill... in most distances only two shot needed...)

i heard many guys that said BF3 is crap because of the beta... but many people don't understand what is a beta! these guys are not needed in the final game, so this is not so bad !!  ;D

(sorry for weird English... i try my best ! ::) )
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 08:29 AM - 10/06/11
You guys don't seriously think that DICE just took the nightly build from Sep 28th and made the beta?  The build we are running is most likely months old and has already had most if not all of the bugs fixed.

Dice tweeted to state that all the bugs reported from the beta feedback were already fixed by the time the beta was available to download. Given that all those bugs are apparent in about 10 mins play time that sounds about right.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: McMick on 02:04 AM - 10/07/11
I'm using Zen's config (thanks Zen) but I'm having a problem.  If I press RMB to go ADS whilst moving the mouse quickly the secondary sensitivity doesn't kick in.  This means if in the heat of the battle I turn and ADS at the same time I'll pass the target as the ADS is using the hip sensitivity.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 02:53 AM - 10/07/11
Have you taken the secondary delay off?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: McMick on 06:46 AM - 10/07/11
No, it's set to 32 ms.  I simply can't figure out what's wrong.  It makes it impossible to run and gun as the ADS sensitivity depends on whether I'm quickly viewing left of right when pressing RMB.  Never had this issue before, weird. Thanks for the help BTW.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: McMick on 06:51 AM - 10/07/11
OK, so just turned the delay off and it's all working correctly. Thanks Zen.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 07:57 AM - 10/07/11
Yeah its the same as BC2 where there's no delay when ADS.  Glad its sorted
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: snarkle on 10:09 AM - 10/08/11
I have a 3500 dpi mouse. My HIP sens is fine at about 20 or 25. But my ADS is set to 450 and it is still not sensitive enough. Anyone know what the problem could be?

(using Zen's config btw)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: ZioComposite on 11:44 AM - 10/08/11
weird, can you take a pic of your ads config?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: snarkle on 01:20 PM - 10/08/11
weird, can you take a pic of your ads config?


Bahh I figured it out. I was setting up a switcher to a different profile without realizing there were primary and secondary mouse options (Y button on main config page). All makes sense now. Newbie mistake.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 03:19 PM - 10/08/11
Wow 450!!! that I think would perfectly simulate what it must be like to be a crack head holding a gun LOL ;D
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: dmxwyrw on 04:51 PM - 10/08/11
I have a 3500 dpi mouse. My HIP sens is fine at about 20 or 25. But my ADS is set to 450 and it is still not sensitive enough. Anyone know what the problem could be?

(using Zen's config btw)

Turn the in game sensitivity all the way up. Take the xim3 sens waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to 14.00. you are just black dotting.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Lunchbox on 04:07 PM - 10/09/11
Off topic here but does any one know when the Beta ends ?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: TRT568 on 04:38 PM - 10/09/11
Off topic here but does any one know when the Beta ends ?
10th :)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 09:04 PM - 10/09/11
10th... Dont know if thats the last day or it will end promptly on that day.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: mushroom on 06:20 AM - 10/10/11
http://youtu.be/1b26BD5KjH0?t=1m6s

see you all in the battlefield!!!!
and thank you zen to give us this config, it made this beta epic!

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2076/hitmushbetabf320h.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/hitmushbetabf320h.jpg/)

in a rush with score 60 - 9 I shoot 35 guys with .44mag it was awesome xD
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 06:29 AM - 10/10/11
You're welcome dude. I wonder if I got fragged by someone using this config ;D

Glad we are stuck in to the wait for the game now. Towards the end I just wanted it to go down so we could get round the dark side of the moon and back in to the full game. Going to bust a little 1943 for the lols over the next couple of weeks.

Will keep this on my XIM3 though although.......am I right in think the US gets this early? if so then great as I'm UK.


Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: amak1 on 07:46 AM - 10/10/11
....sigh.... Its over now.... Your config really pissed off some noobs though zen thanks lol
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Scoobz on 02:02 PM - 10/10/11
Hey Zen, luv the config bro! Quick question though, what do i set the Delay as? Its at 120ms right now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 02:08 PM - 10/10/11
Set delay to 0ms. That's what I do. Most BF games don't need a sens delay.

Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Scoobz on 02:17 PM - 10/10/11
So its "Immediate'' cause i couldnt find 0ms
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 02:23 PM - 10/10/11
Oh yeah sorry........ that

no more beta = :(
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Scoobz on 02:31 PM - 10/10/11
Haha as soon as i loaded the game up it said connection to EA was lost  :-\ Well i'll save your config on the xim3. It was a great setup while BETA  was up and running. Thanks Zen!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Hazeem on 05:01 AM - 10/11/11
i didnt have the time to reply until now, zen thank you for the configs it was enjoyable & i will continue to use it in retail until the release of the ST.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: snarkle on 08:35 PM - 10/11/11
The beta was a blast. Can't wait until the 25th.


Another thanks to Zen for the config!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Slain Immortal on 05:05 PM - 10/14/11
Had a blast with the BETA. Thanks again Zen for your config. Odd fact. 6 years on xbox live playing COD, Halo, and various other shooters. Play a few days worth of beta with Zen's config and I get my first two hate/rage messages.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Xeonplz on 01:13 AM - 10/25/11
what game config do i use?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: twau on 01:17 AM - 10/25/11
Have this config saved on my XIM3 since the BETA, this is the first one I will try with BF3 until we get a ST.

Thanks for your work!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Xeonplz on 01:41 AM - 10/25/11
Will someone please make a walk through on how i can make this config myself!? I bought this game at midnight and forgot i don't have a official release =[
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: jwdavis1 on 02:28 AM - 10/25/11
Maybe its the lack of suppression in the early guns/rounds... but lord this config seems "floaty" and hard to shoot unlike the beta. Of course I was using the Ump45 suppressed for the majority of my 40 levels in beta though... anyone else notice this? (using the same setup I used in beta 4916DZ, -0.50Acell, 1.79 Y-Xr, -0.15DD 13hip sens/12ADS

Dax
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: mist4fun on 02:29 AM - 10/25/11
The new exact deadzone is 5571 for both hip and ads, consider that when tweaking your config.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: eternalwisdom on 03:35 AM - 10/25/11
Hey mist how long before the official ST?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config
Post by: Zen on 04:05 AM - 10/25/11
The new exact deadzone is 5571 for both hip and ads, consider that when tweaking your config.

Have updated the original post.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 04:24 AM - 10/25/11
Can someone that liked 3800 on the beta try 4455 please?

Its crude but I just took off the difference between Mist old 4916 between my 3800 and applied it to the 5571.

So I'd like to hear from someone that liked and used 3800.

Cheers

Zen
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: jaltuve on 07:48 AM - 10/25/11
Cheers

Zen

Zen, I have the 'exact' same configuration I used for the BETA now for the final release, however I feel the controls floaty and sluggish. Have you noticed the same? I believe the look dynamics have changed (at least for the PS3 version which is the one I have) with the BETA it worked like a charm! it was perfect!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: huyrawr on 07:54 AM - 10/25/11
any ETA on the real config? im using these configuration atm but just wondering if anyone know the ETA on the release of the config?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:06 AM - 10/25/11
any ETA on the real config? im using these configuration atm but just wondering if anyone know the ETA on the release of the config?

Don't think I remember seeing Mist of OBsIV say anything about an ETA for the BF3 smarty.  You can pretty much count on it being a day or two after release, unless something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 08:38 AM - 10/25/11
Cheers

Zen

Zen, I have the 'exact' same configuration I used for the BETA now for the final release, however I feel the controls floaty and sluggish. Have you noticed the same? I believe the look dynamics have changed (at least for the PS3 version which is the one I have) with the BETA it worked like a charm! it was perfect!

Hello mate. I dont have the game yet. Try 4455 and 5571 and report back your findings. It seems the deadzone has changed a little in the retail build. 4455 should be about right if you liked 3800, but I'm really just pulling numbers out my arse without the game. By the time I get the game (Thursday/Friday) I imagine we'll have a ST.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: tuffrabit on 08:47 AM - 10/25/11
I played 2 hours with 3800 on both Hip and ADS.  Worked fine.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: twau on 09:04 AM - 10/25/11
If you also want some nice keybindings with this Standard Config you can compare the keybindings to the PC-version:

PC-controls: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/362ce107_PC-controls.PNG
XBOX-controls: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/8d7c4418_xbox360-controls.PNG
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 09:17 AM - 10/25/11
What are the default vehicle controls for PC?
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Post by: nij2k11 on 09:38 AM - 10/25/11
Gutted I have to wait till Friday to play this....This game is the main reason I bought the Xim..Can anyone comment on how these settings work in the chopper? I was a chopper whore back in the BF2 days :)
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Post by: tuffrabit on 09:42 AM - 10/25/11
Can anyone comment on how these settings work in the chopper? I was a chopper whore back in the BF2 days :)

Pick up the controller for planes a copters.  At least until Joystick support hits the XIM3.
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Post by: Zen on 09:59 AM - 10/25/11
Gutted I have to wait till Friday to play this....This game is the main reason I bought the Xim..Can anyone comment on how these settings work in the chopper? I was a chopper whore back in the BF2 days :)

Its not all bad. You'll get a nice smart translator right from the get go to play with
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Post by: tuffrabit on 10:03 AM - 10/25/11
No need to wait to play.  This config works very well for the release version.
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Post by: rivaltactics on 11:10 AM - 10/25/11
bump for everyone else looking for these  thank you!
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Post by: Dirtee on 11:19 AM - 10/25/11
Gunna try Zen's classic config, mist's deadzone and zen's adaption on mist's deadzone Tomorrow!!! As i have a friend that works in a game store and he ordered my copy for me and gets it early!

Could have downloaded the Complex rip, but deffo not gunna do that with this epicness of a game.

Ill report back my findings on those settings asap!!
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Post by: Zen on 11:35 AM - 10/25/11
Cheers buddy! yeah post back. I really want to hear from someone that liked 3800
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Post by: jwdavis1 on 12:15 PM - 10/25/11
Gunna try Zen's classic config, mist's deadzone and zen's adaption on mist's deadzone Tomorrow!!! As i have a friend that works in a game store and he ordered my copy for me and gets it early!

Could have downloaded the Complex rip, but deffo not gunna do that with this epicness of a game.

Ill report back my findings on those settings asap!!

He get's it early? It was released to the public last night at midnight... you're LATE bro :)

Dax
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Post by: ZioComposite on 12:22 PM - 10/25/11
He may also live outside of the US.
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Post by: hk11 on 01:34 PM - 10/25/11
I have a quick question about this.  Im pretty new to the XIM in general (a couple of weeks and really only CoD) and when I used this setup with the deadzone that mist posted, it seems a little jerky.  Almost like I'm getting a bad frame rate.

Is the deadzone what controls that?  I only had a couple of minutes at lunch to play around with it and I am reading up.
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Post by: Zen on 01:53 PM - 10/25/11
I have a quick question about this.  Im pretty new to the XIM in general (a couple of weeks and really only CoD) and when I used this setup with the deadzone that mist posted, it seems a little jerky.  Almost like I'm getting a bad frame rate.

Is the deadzone what controls that?  I only had a couple of minutes at lunch to play around with it and I am reading up.

It will most likely be that yes. Give all the deadzones a try and see what you think. and fear not a ST is out very shortly
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Post by: Skyflakes on 02:28 PM - 10/25/11
Is the new deadzone better?
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Post by: jwdavis1 on 03:07 PM - 10/25/11
Is the new deadzone better?

just my testing... NO. It's wayyy too floaty. I used 4916 for 40 levels in beta and it was even a bit floaty (tried it for 3 hours last night). I've done a bit better going back to 3800 today but even with that it doesn't seem to be quite right and people are getting the jump me often when I'm swinging from target to target.   

Hip 13 sensi / ADS 12
5700dpi G500 @ 1000 poll rate
full game sensi
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Post by: mist4fun on 03:12 PM - 10/25/11
For the brief amount of time I played last night I may have noticed a velocity jump near where the black dot would be, was this present in beta?
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Post by: Jdawg on 03:17 PM - 10/25/11
How are these settings holding up with the retail version of the game? Do they need tweaking at all?

also, are does it feel different with the new firmware upgrade? I'm skeptical upgrading my xim 3 to the newer firmwares after reading all those posts. I feel that I have a bunch of good configs and if I upgrade my firmware I'm going to have to update them all which kind of upsets me. Or maybe I just don't know enough about it.
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Post by: tuffrabit on 03:32 PM - 10/25/11
How are these settings holding up with the retail version of the game? Do they need tweaking at all?

It feels playable enough to hold you over till the ST.

also, are does it feel different with the new firmware upgrade? I'm skeptical upgrading my xim 3 to the newer firmwares after reading all those posts. I feel that I have a bunch of good configs and if I upgrade my firmware I'm going to have to update them all which kind of upsets me. Or maybe I just don't know enough about it.

The firmware upgrade doesn't affect standards.
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Post by: Jdawg on 03:37 PM - 10/25/11
How are these settings holding up with the retail version of the game? Do they need tweaking at all?

It feels playable enough to hold you over till the ST.

also, are does it feel different with the new firmware upgrade? I'm skeptical upgrading my xim 3 to the newer firmwares after reading all those posts. I feel that I have a bunch of good configs and if I upgrade my firmware I'm going to have to update them all which kind of upsets me. Or maybe I just don't know enough about it.

The firmware upgrade doesn't affect standards.

awesome. Ty Tuff :)
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Post by: Skyflakes on 04:13 PM - 10/25/11
I tried 3800 and the new 5571. They feel weird, hopefully the ST will be out soon. I keep over aiming on the target.
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Post by: reqless on 04:18 PM - 10/25/11
Yeah I haven't touched MP yet and don't want to until the ST comes out. The standard is just too floaty, ffffuu Dice, why'd you have to go and muck up the controls?
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Post by: Skyflakes on 04:21 PM - 10/25/11
Yeah I haven't touched MP yet and don't want to until the ST comes out. The standard is just too floaty, ffffuu Dice, why'd you have to go and muck up the controls?

Tell me about it man. Also, why the hell I cant back out of a lobby? Its pretty stupid that I can only back out during a match
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Post by: jwdavis1 on 04:42 PM - 10/25/11
would it be a smoothness or Y-X  ratio that might be causing the floatyness?

I'm not sure where Myst got the new 5571 DZ at, but it's bad, way worse than the 4916 I used from Beta IMHO.

Dax
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Post by: killasnap on 04:54 PM - 10/25/11
any body been able to play a game??  I keep getting lost connections to EA's servers....
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Post by: jwdavis1 on 04:58 PM - 10/25/11
any body been able to play a game??  I keep getting lost connections to EA's servers....

Been playing since midnight last night, they seem to be down now though... all the "kiddies" are home from school now I suppose.

Dax
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Post by: glenn28210 on 05:03 PM - 10/25/11
I have a quick question about this.  Im pretty new to the XIM in general (a couple of weeks and really only CoD) and when I used this setup with the deadzone that mist posted, it seems a little jerky.  Almost like I'm getting a bad frame rate.

Is the deadzone what controls that?  I only had a couple of minutes at lunch to play around with it and I am reading up.

are you usin a high dpi by chance? (im curious about something I've been trying). Also, have you tried using the smooth knob in the smart advance tab
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Post by: amak1 on 05:29 PM - 10/25/11
im using 5580 as dz along with all of the other settings from zens original config... It works well. Im just annoyed they changed it. I was thoroughly happy with the old config.
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Post by: hooch on 05:40 PM - 10/25/11
Trying to change my settings, but I cannot even get into the game, just comes up with a blackscreen. Friend said he could see me in game, but I can't see or hear anything. Is this a problem with my config?
AMD Phenom II x2 550 3.4ghz
4gb ram
radeon hd 5700 series
cheers
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Post by: chaosticbunny on 07:51 PM - 10/25/11
I just want to put my two cents in.

Using mostly the original settings, with the new deadzone. Feels absolutely fantastic!

primary
DZ 5571
S 9.50 (personal preference) (G500)
a -0.50
y-x 1.40
s 0
DD -0.25


ads
DZ 5571
S 10.50 (personal preference) (G500)
a -0.50
y-x 1.40
s 0
DD 0
d immediate

*edited for cosmetic corrections and my mouse type
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Post by: psult4n on 08:58 PM - 10/25/11
Works pretty good so far, thanks.  Im using 12 prim 14 sec, and G500 mouse.

Also, are the 360 servers down or is it just me?
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Post by: chaosticbunny on 09:17 PM - 10/25/11
they have been crashing since prime time.
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Post by: reqless on 09:30 PM - 10/25/11
I just want to put my two cents in.

Using mostly the original settings, with the new deadzone. Feels absolutely fantastic!

Just tried this, funny how a small tweak can make it feel so much better! Thanks :)
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Post by: Long Tra.ng on 10:06 PM - 10/25/11
Thank you for posting. I just got home from work so I am working on helping you guys out. I am using dz 4455 riight now and it seems to work better than 5kwhatever. I don't remember, set your dz before anything. if it floats, it is too high.

i might take some advice from another user and set the ingame sens to half way so vehicles and ds3 can be manageable.  i could never fly helos in bc2 b/c my in game sens was maxeed out and we all know it is difficult to do it with the xim.

cheerrs i will report back
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Post by: Grindbox420 on 10:08 PM - 10/25/11
I just want to put my two cents in.

Using mostly the original settings, with the new deadzone. Feels absolutely fantastic!

primary
DZ 5571
S 9.50 (personal preference) (G500)
a -0.50
y-x 1.40
s 0
DD -0.25


ads
DZ 5571
S 10.50 (personal preference) (G500)
a -0.50
y-x 1.40
s 0
DD 0
d immediate

*edited for cosmetic corrections and my mouse type
I like this one but I changed the acceleration on the ADS to -.45 and it seems more in line with the hip speed.
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Post by: Hazeem on 11:05 PM - 10/25/11
could anyone confirm if the xbox and ps3 versions are one and the same when it come to the standard config and deadzone ?

did not get the game even when it came earlier than the official release date because of greedy stores here in kuwait, the ps3 limited edition cost 30 dinar (about 109$) so i dont have a choice i need to wait until the prices go down  :-\.
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Post by: amak1 on 12:57 AM - 10/26/11
109.... Ouch sux man
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Post by: Zen on 01:36 AM - 10/26/11
Can someone that liked 3800 on the beta try 4455 please?

Its crude but I just took off the difference between Mist old 4916 between my 3800 and applied it to the 5571.

So I'd like to hear from someone that liked and used 3800.

Cheers

Zen

Did anyone try the above? How was it?
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Post by: SiMan on 06:50 AM - 10/26/11
Can someone that liked 3800 on the beta try 4455 please?

Its crude but I just took off the difference between Mist old 4916 between my 3800 and applied it to the 5571.

So I'd like to hear from someone that liked and used 3800.

Cheers

Zen

Did anyone try the above? How was it?

i'll try it tonight after work.  and i also saw a post that the bc2 st was good, too. 

i can't wait for a real ST on this game, tho.  i don't want to touch mp until then :)   i'm hoping obsiv will give an update some time today.  he's been quiet for awhile now :)  perhaps he's working hard on the ST ?? hehe

i'll keep u posted. 
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Post by: swendle on 07:02 AM - 10/26/11
I've tried every config with dead zones ranging from 3800 to 5571, nothing really feels really right im afraid. Don't get me wrong, the game is playable with most of the configs for singleplayer but if you hop into multiplayer, you'll definitely feel like your at a disadvantage. Here's hoping the ST will sort out the kinks.
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Post by: Jon_Jon on 07:17 AM - 10/26/11
...everything standard right now are garbage for me...

its like playing with my XCM's XFPS sniper pro adapter : (

please come out with ST very very soon...please...

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Post by: jaltuve on 07:25 AM - 10/26/11
I've tried every config with dead zones ranging from 3800 to 5571,

Agree! Zend config was 'PERFECT' for the BETA, but they (DICE) messed up the look dynamics for the final release. On top of that there is a terrible input lag now due to vSync being enabled for BF3. What a mess...
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Post by: Zen on 08:17 AM - 10/26/11
Yeah just saw this thread talking about input lag
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3-console/1445078-huge-input-lag.html
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Post by: tuffrabit on 08:28 AM - 10/26/11
Yeah just saw this thread talking about input lag
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3-console/1445078-huge-input-lag.html

OUCH... my brain.  There is so much stupid in that thread.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Loki on 08:38 AM - 10/26/11
I think ZEN's config feels good not great yet with a sensitivity of 9.5 (deadzone 5571).
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Post by: Loki on 08:39 AM - 10/26/11
I like this config, feels good both hip and ads. Need to turn my sensitivity down though!! This config really improves the grainy feeling feeling I was getting on small movements.

What is your sensitivity/deadzone set to?
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Post by: amak1 on 09:19 AM - 10/26/11
5580dz 16hip 14ads
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Post by: thekidcplus on 09:20 AM - 10/26/11
Zens config with dz 5571 works fine for me, like in beta :)
Oh and for hip i use halo reach
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Post by: chaosticbunny on 10:48 AM - 10/26/11
The biggest thing I liked about my set up was that the x-y at 1.4 appears to give me a perfect circle by my mouse movements. This is all merely personal preference but I was hoping it would help some out, were all very anxious for the ST, but needless to say, I have been playing very well so far.

see you guys in game
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/#!/bf3/soldier/t3hst0rmtr00p3r/stats/229639164/xbox/
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Post by: hk11 on 11:13 AM - 10/26/11
Im going to have to try some of these additions.  I was able to get mine working pretty well last night but not as good as it could be for sure.  I bet I'm checking like 40 times a day for a ST.
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Post by: dub on 11:55 AM - 10/26/11
I used the config from the beta and it was sufficient, going to apply the deadzone tweaks later today and see if there is much improvement. It's certainly serviceable but it is noticeably not as responsive as in the beta... I was a jank dispensary, only a few of those moments so far.

Looking forward to an ST sooner rather than later!
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Post by: guitarpanda on 12:23 PM - 10/26/11
Yeah, this game could really use the smarty, hopefully it turns out well. meow.
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Post by: yucko83 on 12:40 PM - 10/26/11
Was tweaking the deadzone while playing campaign and found that dz  at 4100 seems dead on. I found this on a mission right after the quake when you have only your knife and are crawling through rubble with a reticule that is only a dot. Adjusted dz till dot moved 1-1 on the screen. I will upload the rest of my settings after I get home from work.
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Post by: mist4fun on 12:46 PM - 10/26/11
Did you use kodeks deadzoner? You really should discover the deadzone on a weapon as the deadzone could be different for a certain area of the game or in this case a knife. Having the deadzone for the knife and building your config around it isn't going to help when you using a gun :)
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Post by: yucko83 on 02:56 PM - 10/26/11
I understand what you're saying, but this deadzone is working perfectly for me with any weapon. My setup may not work for everyone's setup. But I'm am having performance near an ST IMO. I feel so good with it. Someone else should try it and let me know what they think.
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Post by: mist4fun on 03:19 PM - 10/26/11
That's all that matters then :)
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Post by: SecondSight on 04:20 PM - 10/26/11
Anyone else noticing input lag on bf3 compared to the beta.

I dont have it yet so I cant check myself but there is a few people saying it has alot of input lag in the game.
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Post by: mist4fun on 04:24 PM - 10/26/11
I saw the same thing on Demize's twitter. I'm not sure about input lag as I've only played less than thirty minutes of bf3 :( Maybe they feel the deadzone change that happened since beta?
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Post by: SecondSight on 04:27 PM - 10/26/11
I think this input lag feeling might be ps3 only as every thread and post I read on google was on ps3 and none of them were on the xbox.


I hope its only ps3 that has this problem and not the xbox. :-P


After reading some more I am pretty sure the problem is ps3 only. Thy claim the aiming is very sluggish like it has input lag and that it has acceleration.

Glad this problem isnt on xbox too but I do hope they can patch this for the ps guys.
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Post by: Cogito on 04:33 PM - 10/26/11
I have been using mist's dead zone recommendation with much success. I did end up having to turn the smoothness up a bit. Also, no input lag on my end.

I beat the campaign on hard with aim assist off in about 6 hours.. Now that's results!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SecondSight on 04:34 PM - 10/26/11
I have been using mist's dead zone recommendation with much success. I did end up having to turn the smoothness a bit. Also, no input lag on my end.

Xbox or ps3?
Title: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Cogito on 04:35 PM - 10/26/11
I have been using mist's dead zone recommendation with much success. I did end up having to turn the smoothness a bit. Also, no input lag on my end.

Xbox or ps3?

XBOX
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Long Tra.ng on 05:27 PM - 10/26/11
I think this input lag feeling might be ps3 only as every thread and post I read on google was on ps3 and none of them were on the xbox.


I hope its only ps3 that has this problem and not the xbox. :-P


After reading some more I am pretty sure the problem is ps3 only. Thy claim the aiming is very sluggish like it has input lag and that it has acceleration.

Glad this problem isnt on xbox too but I do hope they can patch this for the ps guys.

Yeah, i noticed that while i was tweaking on my PS3. I figured it was something dice implemented to make using the analog sticks easier. it makes sense to have the first 1.5 inches of the deadzone to be slower. I noticed it only does this whenever you start from cold zero but if you are already moving, it doesnt.  and it only does it from the HIP. ads is fine. I figured it would be on xbox as if its a console feature.

i tweaked my XIM to change this from a "lag" or "slow start" to more of a "bumper" or "sensi accelerator"

what we gotta understand is that it works fine. its not a bad thing at all. we just need to adapt to it. I remember when i killed it on CS, nobody liked accel but i was always using it and didnt even know. I grew accustomed to it and ill tell you i was one of teh top tier players in the world. it helped me whip around quickly, multi target acquisition and have control at slower speeds.

another thing everyone is neglecting is the Deadzone of BF3. all the configs on here are using square. BF3 deadzone is a circle!! I tested this by looking for zigzag. [] will produce zigzag regardless how close I was to the actual dz value. O did not. having it on circle gives me much smoother results. I will be  finishing my first release of config tonight. I will sshare it asap.

let us hope this "feature" affecting ps3 is really just the XIM and a ST will fix it for the general population sake. I think it just needs a bit of boost. I am fine either way. I adapt to anything in the matter of a few days. just dont think about it and play. 

I am not home but for those who are getting more of a lag or delayed response, try my deadzones. I believe HIP is 5400ish? and ADS is 6700ish? this is with g500 1000mhz poll. and its [] not O!
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Post by: mist4fun on 05:39 PM - 10/26/11
The zig zagging you're seeing doesn't mean the shape is wrong, you can have the correct shape and size and some games still zig zag. By using a circle instead of a square you are smoothing out your whole config and losing that "snappy" feel.
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Post by: conclave on 06:09 PM - 10/26/11
I tried this on PS3 with a dead zone of 5571. I was pretty happy with the results.

At first, I had a dead zone of 3800, which was left over from the beta. This felt "floaty" or "laggy" and the difference in dead zone seems to make sense. I can run the dead zoner app later to verify that the PS3 really is the same.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: yucko83 on 06:12 PM - 10/26/11
Here's my configuration. I'm using a Razer Naga. I was using zens original setup during the beta and then tweaked from there till I found something that felt right.
Let me know what you guys think.
*update:  tried mists dz and it works even better now

HIP
DZ: 5571 square
SENS: 21.55
ACCEL: -0.45
Y-X: 1.80
Smoothness: 1
Diag Damp: -0.05

ADS
DZ: 5571 square
SENS: 24.00
ACCEL: -0.44
X-Y: 1.80
Smoothness: 0
Diag Damp: -0.05
Delay: Immediate
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Long Tra.ng on 06:22 PM - 10/26/11
The zig zagging you're seeing doesn't mean the shape is wrong, you can have the correct shape and size and some games still zig zag. By using a circle instead of a square you are smoothing out your whole config and losing that "snappy" feel.

are u sure about that mist? there is no difference in "snappiness" between the two. both are just as fast as the other with the same sensi and other settings.  each game has its own dz value and dz shape. if you use a dz that is not the correct shape you cause problems. i have a printout of the explanation of this. i believe i got it off this site..or maybe it was the FnS site.

when using [] for dz, even if i fine tuned the value, i would move my g500 perfectly straight up (used a straight edge guide) and the xhair would actually move up in at 5 or 10 degree angle. if i moved it slowly, i can see the zigzag come alive, but this only happens when moved slowly.

when I tested O dz the exact same method and values, it moved perfectly straight up and down and left to right with no zagging. i tested twitch fragging with both as well bc i like my set up smooth and super fast for twitch fragging. no difference
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Long Tra.ng on 06:36 PM - 10/26/11
I think this input lag feeling might be ps3 only as every thread and post I read on google was on ps3 and none of them were on the xbox.


I hope its only ps3 that has this problem and not the xbox. :-P


After reading some more I am pretty sure the problem is ps3 only. Thy claim the aiming is very sluggish like it has input lag and that it has acceleration.

Glad this problem isnt on xbox too but I do hope they can patch this for the ps guys.

the input lag is not just PS3. there are many guys who are xbox gamers who report the same issue.

after doing some reading on it, i realized some ppl swear there is IL but some say theyre delusional. I am wondering if polling rates could make this worse or better?  there has to be some variable we can manipulate if some ppl experience and some ppl do not. 

what do you guys think? any other theories?  i tend to experience it in campaign but i have only done XIM tweaking and like i said before, it only occurs when the xhairs move from cold zero, not while moving.  i have also noticed the first inch or so of movement is more "controlled" and slower than the remaining of movements as if they implemented that as a feature to help micromovements?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: jaltuve on 06:49 PM - 10/26/11
what do you guys think? any other theories? 

Sure, I've said it many times already both via tweets AND in the BF3 forums but nobody seems to care, they introduced this input lag problem by enabling vSync.  Unfortunately, if they disable it now then we get the terrible screen tearing problems we had in the BETA..

Personally, I really don't mind getting the screen tearing back as long as it fixes the input lag problem. Lag hurts the 1-1 feel with the XIM3
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: MVG on 07:05 PM - 10/26/11
What is a deadzone.. I'm really nooby at this :(
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 07:29 PM - 10/26/11
Here you are http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=13332.0
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 08:17 PM - 10/26/11
I dont notice much input lag on xbox. Havnt really been looking for it though. Will test. Did notice some in the beta.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: hangemhigh on 10:28 PM - 10/26/11
I can't get over how much different  Zens config feels now even with the updated deadzone,  it felt pretty good on the beta but now i just can't use it. As a qiuck fix trried the homefront Smart , felt a little better, will have to do some tweaking tommorow
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 01:20 AM - 10/27/11
BF3 ST is available for RC testing. Please give feedback in the RC section.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 01:55 AM - 10/27/11
Sweet!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SiMan on 02:07 AM - 10/27/11
BF3 ST is available for RC testing. Please give feedback in the RC section.

Super sweet. Thanks for the notice. I'm going to check this out now
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SecondSight on 02:08 AM - 10/27/11
Sweet!

Zen you going midnight release tonight?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 02:19 AM - 10/27/11
Nah. Got my game coming from GAME UK. Got dispatched on Tuesday so might be here either today or tomorrow.

Have got the afternoon off today so would be great if it came. If not I'll just get a couple of hours in on Friday night.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Hazeem on 03:11 AM - 10/27/11
need someone to confirm if the ST can work on ps3, i am counting on you testers XD.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: sscarr on 03:14 AM - 10/27/11
Is there an ETA on how long the ST will be in testing?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 04:03 AM - 10/27/11
Just apply to join if you want it ASAP
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: brutalmaster on 08:44 AM - 10/27/11
How do you adjust the diagonal dampen?  I cant seem to find that setting on my xim3.
Thank you
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: yoakim_larsson on 09:52 AM - 10/27/11
Sorry for this.....Is probably a stupid question but Zen ... How do you sign up for testing?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 10:27 AM - 10/27/11
Your account profile... I really like this standard woth the updated deadzone... Dont know what all the riffraff is about. Havnt tried your formula yet zen been having to much fun outaiming noobs.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Nyx on 12:59 PM - 10/27/11
Is there an ETA on how long the ST will be in testing?
Just tested the St with the PS3 and I think the ST works for the PS3 aswell. In my opinion is the ST very good playable right now and much better than all the standarts I have tried today.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Cache on 01:18 PM - 10/27/11
Just wanted to say thank you to Zen and everyone else for this config info and testing.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Skullcount on 01:50 PM - 10/27/11
Config is awful.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 02:16 PM - 10/27/11
Yes thanks zen your config was perfect in beta! I wish they would have left the mechanic as it was for retail.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Od1n on 02:29 PM - 10/27/11
apart from toys/tonesters cod config, this one is probably the most popular standard translator ;)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 02:55 PM - 10/27/11
Yes thanks zen your config was perfect in beta! I wish they would have left the mechanic as it was for retail.

I know right. Typical DICE. They have to change the look mechanic on their games for every one in the series plus addition add-ons.

Seems there's a lot more PS3 players complaining about the input lag thing.

Anyway the new ST is superb. Much better then this filthy STD (Standard Config)

It was good in the beta but now DICE have made me look bad ;D
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: jaltuve on 03:44 PM - 10/27/11
Yes thanks zen your config was perfect in beta! I wish they would have left the mechanic as it was for retail.

Hey Mist, with the BETA (which I downloaded for BOTH my PS3/XBOX) I noticed the look mechanics were exactly the same. I loved how Zen Standard translator worked.. it was AMAZING! perfect! it felt like a smart translator!

Unfortunately, the RELEASE version of BF3 has some 'input lag' problems due to DICE's decision to enable VSYNC.  True, enabling vSync SOLVED the screen tearing problems of the BETA, but introduces input lag as a side effect.

What if DICE patches BF3 to remove vSync? this can have a negative effect on the ST don't you agree? and by the way... can I be part of the ST test team? I'm very interested in testing it with the PS3!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: crazyscorpion04 on 04:52 PM - 10/27/11
I have been using the homefron st and its actually ok for both for me. The only think is the delay lag
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: tuffrabit on 06:01 PM - 10/27/11
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/7668784.page#17827688

Go complain there.  I've already got some smartie mcsmarties throwing their puny 16 year old weight around.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Long Tra.ng on 06:09 PM - 10/27/11
I have been using the homefron st and its actually ok for both for me. The only think is the delay lag

I am wanting to conclude the lag delay is due to peoples' TVs and monitors/vid cards. 

I don't have any lag with my DS3 but my TV is a quick Panny Plasma.  My XIM had like an inch or so of this circle of slow movement then outside that circle it would be nice and quick. I was almost like trying to open a window in a fast moving car - its slow and sluggish to open it until you got it 45 * out and the wind helps swing it open. meh, probably a bad analogy but im sure you guys know what's going on.
But I got a work around by playing with my settings for a while.

isnt a ST just a finely tuned STD? I have my first version of my settings. they work pretty good. going to post it in a new thread b/c i will be updating it and adding to it
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 10:25 PM - 10/27/11
It's not a display issue, at least not for most people. Most of us use monitors, myself included. I personally think it's a symptom of fps drops.

Oh and a Smart Translator isn't a finely tuned Standard Config, it's much more than that.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 11:33 PM - 10/27/11
Rabbit you need a new tv.... Lol jk  :P ... Im not a big fan of video game forums its full of little kids. would not installing this game to the xbox hd have any effect on input lag? Just curious cuz I dont really notice it and its the only thing I can think of that I may have done differently than some ppl.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Skyflakes on 12:08 AM - 10/28/11
It's not a display issue, at least not for most people. Most of us use monitors, myself included. I personally think it's a symptom of fps drops.

Oh and a Smart Translator isn't a finely tuned Standard Config, it's much more than that.

How's the beta ST for BF3? Can't wait til it goes public
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 01:37 AM - 10/28/11
It's not a display issue, at least not for most people. Most of us use monitors, myself included. I personally think it's a symptom of fps drops.

Oh and a Smart Translator isn't a finely tuned Standard Config, it's much more than that.

How's the beta ST for BF3? Can't wait til it goes public

It pisses on this crap ;D
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: MGSnake19 on 02:44 AM - 10/28/11
It's not a display issue, at least not for most people. Most of us use monitors, myself included. I personally think it's a symptom of fps drops.

Oh and a Smart Translator isn't a finely tuned Standard Config, it's much more than that.

How's the beta ST for BF3? Can't wait til it goes public

It pisses on this crap ;D

WOW really!! man i'm glad to hear that. Now release it, i command u   ;D
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 08:01 AM - 10/28/11
Why not join? and if you can leave feedback in the RC even better
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Slain Immortal on 03:33 PM - 10/28/11
Can't figure out how to join the test group. I've looked in my profile settings and see no option. Am I just blind?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 03:39 PM - 10/28/11
Profile/Modify profile/Group membership....Rc tester
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SweetChill on 08:33 PM - 10/28/11
Does the ST remove the floaty feeling of the guns? I carved up every match of the beta using this config, now i'm happy to be in the top 3 on my team. Anyone else have the same experience, or did i just suddenly become bad at video games? Lol
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SoFistdecaydead on 11:07 PM - 10/28/11
Is there some feature (or will there ever be) where I can configure BF3's Hip and ADS ST's with ADS Lock enabled in game?
I know I can use a switcher, but there seems to be about 5+ ways to disengage ADS, and I'm only allowed 2 switchers. Only way out I found was to constantly stare at the XIM3 and determine if I'm still on the Hip profile, or the ADS, and then assign another switcher to the ADS profile so I can go back to Hip quickly.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: NY Dynasty on 04:03 AM - 10/29/11
I seen a couple ppl here say that the retail version of BF3 is actually a "O" deadzone, is this true?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 08:48 AM - 10/29/11
No its square according to Mist. I havent tested or tweaked this STD config. I would but I dont get a lot of game time so I'm just using the ST that Mist built and loving it.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: murdo on 12:48 PM - 10/29/11
how do see the deadzone on xim 3 and adjust it? sorry if in the wrong section, but folks seem to be on the topic more than most.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 04:03 PM - 10/29/11
Switch to a standard config. Watch the learn vids for all the ins and outs
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: moogoo88 on 11:32 PM - 10/29/11
I smashed together Zen's and Mist's configurations and the below child was born:

I think we should list what setup we have for each test.  Otherwise people are just going to try the settings with a completely different setup, have a completely different experience, then get on and trash the settings.

G13
G700 5400DPI 1000mhz polling
GT720 Projector 1080p
Razer Vespula mouse pad speed side
Game Sensitivity at max
Auto aim OFF

BF3 - Campaign.

Zen's Config:  I started with Zen's config (good work by the way, it must have been pain staking) and found that there was some acceleration and for ADS precision head shots, most of my fine movements weren't registering as smoothly.  ADS had much more constricted mouse movement, so naturally I had to set the ADS sens is a tad bit higher. 

I then changed the DZ to Mist's suggestion of 4916 and it's money every time.  I'll pick up a g3 or HK at every chance and just start stacking bodies.  ADS mouse movement still has the same issue as Zen's config, but there isn't much I have been able to do about it, thus I look forward to the smart translator release.

Although both, configs had issues with ADS mouse movement, DZ 4916 felt much better and allowed for steady precision head shots at distances of one or more battlefield 3 city blocks. 

I tried smoothness at 1, but felt constricted so I went back to 0.  Willy is freed.

HIP
DZ: 4916 square
SENS: 17.25
ACCEL: -0.51 (Feels more 1-1 when making 180 turns)
Y-X: 1.80 (Standard)
Smoothness: 0 (Feels more "free" than 1)
Diag Damp: -0.15 (Standard)

ADS
DZ: 4916 square
SENS: 18.50 (Can't fix the ADS sluggishness yet.  Tried everything.  Wait for smart translator)
ACCEL: -0.51 (Feels more 1-1 when making 180 turns)
X-Y: 1.80 (Standard)
Smoothness: 0 (Feels more "free" than 1)
Diag Damp: -0.15 (I completely forgot why I changed this)
Delay: Immediate (120ms, 64ms, all the same to me)

I will try DZ 5571 square tomorrow.  DZ 5571 square sounds like a top secret government base, code, virus code, and zombie city all in one.

Excellent job guys.  I know it must have been pain staking since there are 8000 dead zones to try.  I don't expect someone to try my configuration, and hope I can help someone start somewhere especially when they have the same peripherals that I have.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 01:14 AM - 10/30/11
The config I wrote worked decent on the beta but they've changed the look mech so its not really up to date. Glad you had a starting point though. I'd urge anyone that wants to give some good feedback to join the RC group though and use the new ADS ST which is wonderful
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 01:45 AM - 10/30/11
Yes definitely. moogoo88, it seems as if you've put a good amount of time into comparing these configs. We could use another tester on the BF3 ST who gives feedback such as what you've posted above. If you're interested drop a request

Profile - Modify Profile - Group Membership - Request RC Tester
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 09:03 AM - 10/30/11
Yeah just the sort of input we love at RC group. Jump in moogoo88
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: badbeat on 05:34 PM - 10/30/11
What DPI and polling do you guys use?  Do you use the in game auto aim thing?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: moogoo88 on 05:59 PM - 10/30/11
@mist, @zen:  Done.  Thanks bros.  I won't be able to test out the smart ST till tomorrow evening. 

@badbeat: check my above post.  After Blops always tried to "help" me track and fire on targets, I ended up missing more with it on.  I just don't dig the mouse moving without me doing it because it throws me way off.

g700 - No better mouse for me as I can roll fingers to hit aux mouse buttons without losing positive control while in an intensive one-on-one firefight.
5400 DPI - there is a thread going around saying that dpi should be set in multiples of 90.  I simply found that 5400 was more precise for me than 5700.
1000hz polling - was at 125hz for the longest and it just didn't feel right.  125hz even had me changing mice to see if it was just me.  Then I found many g700 users at 1000hz, so I tried it and it's never felt smoother.  Butter smooth.

I suggest doing a search on the mouse you're using, and test from there.  Happy hunting.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: TaCo on 09:48 AM - 10/31/11
I've been using Zen's config with a DZ of 5580 and its been good to me so far K/D at 2.5+... but I have not attempted sniping, that is where the real test is.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: SoFistdecaydead on 11:37 AM - 10/31/11
Hmm, I've had quite different results with the different deadzone values depending on which mouse I use.
I possess both an mx518 and a Cooler Master Storm Inferno. The Inferno with 4000 dpi and 1000 Hz polling rate feels fine on all of the DZ values Zen and Mist have posted up, however, with the mx518, I only see success with 4916 and the 3800. I must then jack up the sensitivity as as the mx518 is no where close to the Inferno's specs.

This might explain how some find different DZ values successful.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: asilver on 11:46 AM - 10/31/11
I have been sniping on zens config with a ADS sens of 6, 5700dpi, 125polling. Add a touch of smoothness (4) and all that jitter just goes away. It plays alright, takes some getting used to for sure. I feel like the x/y could be better. forget 'drag shooting' but over all aiming at far distance is great. Love that bullet drop.

How does the new ST work for vehicles?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: YayForJam on 12:51 PM - 11/01/11
moogoo's config is working pretty well for me
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: moogoo88 on 04:24 PM - 11/01/11
moogoo's config is working pretty well for me

Good to know Jam.  I've actually made some adjustments recently, but posted on the tester threads.

Though I'm sure you've made your tweaks, I'll throw my latest up:

G13 WASD
G700 5400DPI 1000mhz polling
GT720 Projector 1080p
Razer Vespula mouse pad speed side
Game Sensitivity at max
Auto aim OFF
Single Player
HD Pack Installed

Hip ST:  I actually went back to Zen/Mist's standard settings for Hip.  The Smarty had me dead zoning before a 180 turn.  Even after toggling the sensitivity higher, I ended up with 57.00 and it just couldn't get any better from there.  I didn't try Smart Advanced because I think it's all about the dead zone.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

HIP ST
DZ: 4916 (haven't found any better) (DZ 5571 square too floaty; felt as if it was registering every third pixel)
Sensitivity:  17.25
Acceleration:  -.051
y-x ratio:  1.80
Smoothness:  0
Diag Dampen:  0.15

ADS Smart Advanced ADS.B2
Sensitivity:  56.70
Acceleration:  0
Y-X Ratio:  1.80
Smoothness:  4
Boost:  0 (honestly I haven't read up on what this does)
Delay:  Immediate

I was told to modify the y-x ratio down from 1.80 - 1.0.  I haven't tried it, because I've grown used to the actual ADS.B2 smarty.  I had to raise the sensitivity, but it's perfect for all weapon optics, to include scopes.

You can stop reading here if you want.  Or read it when you have time.  The below just describes issues I've had with the Standard, Smart Advanced, and should explain why I've went with the ADS.B2 Smarty, final decision.


ADS Smart ADS.B2:  I haven't tried ADS.B1 because I just joined, but this is leaps and bounds beyond what the Standard was capable of doing.  I did have to tweak and ended up using smart advanced.  I definitely concur that the ADS isn't meant for scopes.  The mission where you're a sniper and have to cover a team on the ground with a thermal scope was where I got most of this test down.  At best, it felt grainy and twitchy.  I couldn't get a precise 1-1 for accurate scope shots.  I'd get on target, then have to use other fine muscles to readjust from there.  I was constantly switching between smoothness one and four and this really depended on if I was using the eotech or scope.  I didn't have to make a switcher for scopes vs holographic sights because I was being engaged enough where I could just press pause and go up and down.  In the end I set the smoothness to four because it was the middle ground for surgical scope shots and eotech target acquisition.  Could the grainy, twitchy scope target acquisition be because of the frames dropping?  Someone please educate me. 
     My secondary weapon was a silenced m4 with eotech (I wish you could turn that brightness down like in real life because in dark environments it just makes the background darker) and that was a freakin laser beam attached to my hand, and waving it around like a light saber made me the jedi Yoda has been looking for.
     So even with the scope inabilities, I was still surgical.  And not surgical like I can stitch wounds with my mouse, but more like stack bodies wherever I wanted.  In single player there is absolutely no need for automatic fire selected on any weapon as it wastes bullets, time, and is not needed when you can put guys down with a single shot or double-tap.  As long as you're accurate, there is no argument.  Real world tactics right there, but your mileage may very. 

Input Lag:  I don't experience any, but that's probably because I'm playing single player.  The single player does stutter at certain points of the story, but it effects the whole machine like it's going to freeze.  It has already locked up on me once. 

Vehicle:  I maxed out the sensitivity to 500 and still felt sluggish.  I just read up on the "boost" option so I will give it a try.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: savethehumans on 05:09 PM - 11/01/11
I feel like an idiot enough, but ive searched long enough, and will just ask..
I just got my xim3 and really only wanna play bf3 and Dead Island.

My question is "where are you making these changes?" like the deadzone etc?

Is it in the config or on the xim manager?  I cant seem to access the smart trans on the xim...just the config section.

I loaded 8 smarts with the manager, but am missing a step...HELP me please. lol

/facepalm
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 05:17 PM - 11/01/11
Using your controller on your xim3 device select add config, now pick a config you're going to copy, press the A button on the controller. You now have a new config, press up on your dpad and rename the config, press A on the controller to lock that in.

Now select "translator" and change it from smart to standard, apply the config settings, these are your hip settings. Press Y on your controller to access your aim down sight settings, change smart to standard and input your ads settings. Set up your keybinds, save your config and you're good to go.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: savethehumans on 05:19 PM - 11/01/11
Ok I figured it out...smart like rock...I thought ST was smart not standard..and you guys were editting a smart T.

I amn still curious how to change between smart translators on the xim3...
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 05:19 PM - 11/01/11
How to change between smart translators? Can you be more specific?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: savethehumans on 05:51 PM - 11/01/11
How to change between smart translators? Can you be more specific?

Well if I have a game like dead island loaded with the manger...and I start the game...how to I put it to the DI smart translator?   I must be missing something...
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: mist4fun on 07:12 PM - 11/01/11
You press start and back on your xbox controller and select load config. Dead Island should be listed. If it's not there then you didn't download it to your xim3 device. After adding the game in xim manager you need to select the game from the library and press the blue down arrow button to que the game to be downloaded to xim3. Let me know if you run into an issue.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Long Tra.ng on 10:33 PM - 11/01/11
5400 DPI - there is a thread going around saying that dpi should be set in multiples of 90.  I simply found that 5400 was more precise for me than 5700.


has anyone else heard of/tried this? I want to but right now my config is too good to let go! I really don't have any input lag, don't have any floating, jitters, negative acceleration, etc.

here is what I am currently using for you guys to try:

half in game sensi for ds3 vehicle play if needed. if you use full in game sensi, just tone down the sensi values below until you're comfortable.
g700, 5700dpi, 1000mhz polling
playstation move nunchuck
c4gen teflon large mouse pad
panasonic 42inch s1 custom calibrated by yours truly

HIP
DZ: 5571 []
sensi: ~8.5
accel -.50
YX: 2.00 (I don't like standard 1.80 because I want my mouse to move on the y axis 1:1 to the x axis. lot of campers above you in this game.
smooth: 0
DD: 0

ADS
same as above but accel is set to ~6.5 for now
delay 200ms

I have vehicle configs too but its essentially the same but with sensi set to my liking. usually higher for non ads and lower for ads.

Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 01:33 AM - 11/02/11
Yes the avago 9500 works best in multiples of 90. Probably not something you could actually feel outside of placebo but technically its true
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: NY Dynasty on 02:43 AM - 11/02/11
@mist, @zen:  Done.  Thanks bros.  I won't be able to test out the smart ST till tomorrow evening. 

@badbeat: check my above post.  After Blops always tried to "help" me track and fire on targets, I ended up missing more with it on.  I just don't dig the mouse moving without me doing it because it throws me way off.

g700 - No better mouse for me as I can roll fingers to hit aux mouse buttons without losing positive control while in an intensive one-on-one firefight.
5400 DPI - there is a thread going around saying that dpi should be set in multiples of 90.  I simply found that 5400 was more precise for me than 5700.
1000hz polling - was at 125hz for the longest and it just didn't feel right.  125hz even had me changing mice to see if it was just me.  Then I found many g700 users at 1000hz, so I tried it and it's never felt smoother.  Butter smooth.

I suggest doing a search on the mouse you're using, and test from there.  Happy hunting.

question on polling?  in the tutorial, Obs states that nothing more that 125 is needed and that actually, not advised but then here (and you not being only one), I see ppl having rates set at 1000.  I'm not a CPU guy so I have a question, what does polling do, why is it "better" higher like you guys have it?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: the_alien on 03:29 AM - 11/02/11
Is anyone else experiencing issues on the PS3 with this config?
My crosshair keeps moving after I stopped moving the mouse. Happens when I make fast moves with the mouse i.e. when I'm turning 90 or 180 degrees.

Is it possibly an accelleration issue or the TV?

My setup:
Sony KDL 46W5500
PS3
GT Max Adapter
XIM3
Std Cherry Keyboard
Logitech G5 Mouse

Using this config:
HIP:

5571 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.15


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

5571 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0


edit:
Just read that the Sony W5500 has an input lag up to 63ms... guess I have to get a PC.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: wanne on 06:36 AM - 11/02/11
@the_alien: You should try to new BF3 smart translator instead of THIS custom config.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: TaCo on 12:53 PM - 11/02/11
Although I think this and any other "BF3 Configs" threads should be closed. I wonder how close you guys were to the ST.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: moogoo88 on 06:36 PM - 11/02/11
question on polling?  in the tutorial, Obs states that nothing more that 125 is needed and that actually, not advised but then here (and you not being only one), I see ppl having rates set at 1000.  I'm not a CPU guy so I have a question, what does polling do, why is it "better" higher like you guys have it?

I'm wondering this myself.  I was dead set on 125hz because of that video (@obsiv please update?), and I couldn't find any mice that would feel perfect.  I was going back and forth from the G700, Naga Epic, and Naga for days before I just said, "Something else just isn't right."  So I set the polling to 1000hz and it was instantly smooth.  I haven't gone back since.  I'm going to let someone else chime in on this and research in the meanwhile.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: NY Dynasty on 03:22 AM - 11/03/11
question on polling?  in the tutorial, Obs states that nothing more that 125 is needed and that actually, not advised but then here (and you not being only one), I see ppl having rates set at 1000.  I'm not a CPU guy so I have a question, what does polling do, why is it "better" higher like you guys have it?

I'm wondering this myself.  I was dead set on 125hz because of that video (@obsiv please update?), and I couldn't find any mice that would feel perfect.  I was going back and forth from the G700, Naga Epic, and Naga for days before I just said, "Something else just isn't right."  So I set the polling to 1000hz and it was instantly smooth.  I haven't gone back since.  I'm going to let someone else chime in on this and research in the meanwhile.
so 1000 is the way to go?  eh?  fellas?  I know I can just try it but wanna hear some feedback...
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 03:31 AM - 11/03/11
I rock 1000hz and its nice... Though I didnt have problems with 125hz when it was reccommended. I def feel like 1000 feels better though its not a huge difference. Im using a razer naga unepic.   :P
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Aceright on 05:20 PM - 11/20/11
While I find Zen's works well, I do agree it is not very good with sniping as it does seem to jerk. I am using the deadzone size from Mist which is an improvement over the 3800 figure.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 03:52 AM - 11/21/11
While I find Zen's works well, I do agree it is not very good with sniping as it does seem to jerk. I am using the deadzone size from Mist which is an improvement over the 3800 figure.

Everyone is using the ST now. No need for this config,.


RE polling rates its because most mice have an optimal performance. Usually this is 500-1000hz. So although the XIM3 only see 125hz most mice perform better at higher polling rates....i.e tracking wise etc..
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Slain Immortal on 07:21 PM - 11/21/11
I just want to give a big thank you to Zen and Mist for their work on their config during the beta. Your work made the beta a blast to play and helped tide me over until the ST released. Thanks again guys. Your work was greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 04:28 AM - 11/22/11
You're most welcome. Glad so many people found it playable during the beta :)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: hicksaliens on 06:46 PM - 11/30/11
Zen you pretty much saved my experience with BF3 beta. (will and Mist too <3)



I am using a a g500. What is your exact settings  for Sens with primary and Secondary? I am just going to copy you.

I find I am using 25-27 sens but I think that is too high?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 03:58 AM - 12/01/11
Im still using the standard listed here with new deadzone just because I got so used to it... I reccommend downloading the smarty though.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: hicksaliens on 09:59 AM - 12/01/11
I did too

you like it more then the new ST?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 03:49 PM - 12/01/11
The smarties gotta be great.... Though I havnt tried it... Have it on my xim though just havnt bound my keys yet. What I like about the standard is I feel slmost no auto aim.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: dmxwyrw on 04:18 PM - 12/01/11
ooo care to throw up your totally awesomo config there amak1?  ;D
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: PaseMkr on 06:39 AM - 12/02/11
The hip isnt great but the ADS is loads better then anything ive tried. My very first and I'm tweaking blind really so go easy.

HIP:

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.50
y:x 1.80
smooth: 0
DD: -0.15


ADS (this is seriously good for me)

3800 deadzone Square
acceration -0.45
y:x1.80
smooth: 0
DD: 0

In game sens at max...tweak sensitivity to your liking.

***update from Mist*** (give all configs a try though)

Quote from: mist
The new exact deadzone is 5571 for both hip and ads, consider that when tweaking your config.

Quote from: zen
Can someone that liked 3800 on the beta try 4455 please?

Its crude but I just took off the difference between Mist old 4916 between my 3800 and applied it to the 5571.

So I'd like to hear from someone that liked and used 3800.

Cheers

Zen

I am new to the Xim, can you please tell me how I can do the above setup? I am not sure how to make these changes. Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: dmxwyrw on 10:17 AM - 12/02/11
You really should use the smart translator if you haven't yet.

Go here:
http://xim3.com/?page_id=187
Watch video titled
“Standard” (General-Purpose) Mouse Translators
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 03:29 PM - 12/02/11
Oh dmx I just used the new deadzone and made it a little larger but I think im so used to playing cod and other games where aim  assist is crazy I dont notice it in bf3. I also play with relatively high sens. Cant remember the exact numbers... But if I didnt get so used to the standard early on I would be using the smarty though but I guess laziness has been deterring me.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: solly on 12:28 AM - 12/05/11
Not trying to confuse anyone, but this is a xim 2 question in the xim 3 forum. We don't have an ST for the xim 2, so this seems like a place where the old xim 2 folks may have an idea.

I am trying to tweak the fine tune sniping aim for my xim 2. A lot of us are seeing the crosshairs skipping pixels when trying to do that fine tune aiming -- like trying to headshot someone at 100 yards.



here is what I am using:
mx518 1600 dpi setting (has 3 presets 1600,800, 400)
windows sensitivity is at 50%.
in game sensitivity is at 100%

update rate 125
3800 deadzone Square
yx ratio 1.8
translation exponent .5
sens 5500
secondary 6200
sens toggle mouseRight
diagonal dampen -.15
smoothness .1

I've tried dialing down my sensitivity, and that helped out a little. What would the TE or translation exponent do to help? anything? is this all about the deadzone?

I just re-read the OP, and it says the new deadzone is 5571? I'll have to try that, will let you know.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: jlo96f3 on 01:08 AM - 12/08/11
I love this setup.  Just saying. 
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 02:35 PM - 03/28/12
If i like this set up, i'll actually say a prayer for Tuff n Zen.. Been asking around a lot for a decent standard config, the Smart just isn't working for me.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 03:10 AM - 03/29/12
i still use this setup when i pop in bf3.... new deadzone nonetheless. be honest i don't snipe much though.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 03:28 AM - 03/29/12
Zen ma man, pls do update the deadzone, appreciate it  :)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 06:04 AM - 03/29/12
I think mist put the new deadzone in this thread at around 5500 or something. Haven't got BF3 to test at the moment but will next week. so will update then
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Zen on 10:24 AM - 03/29/12
Yeah there you go 5571. Have you tried that bad boy out? I haven't tested it yet but will use it as a base when I update this next week some time.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 03:04 PM - 03/29/12
Yeah there you go 5571. Have you tried that bad boy out? I haven't tested it yet but will use it as a base when I update this next week some time.

Will do this weekend, will get back to you for sure  8)
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 08:19 AM - 04/03/12
Yeah there you go 5571. Have you tried that bad boy out? I haven't tested it yet but will use it as a base when I update this next week some time.

Hey Zen, using it n loving it so far. Thanks man,
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 09:17 AM - 04/03/12
Update, played for 2 hours straight n i love it with 10 Sens on Hips n 9 on Ads. But note, as i was tweaking the sense on the fly in game for the optimum sens, i noticed a drift sometimes on the right side.. Is that supposed to happen if i do not mess with the sense in game?  It is fine now though..
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: amak1 on 06:29 PM - 04/03/12
your controller deadzone could be getting off, this happened to me but my controllers left stich pressed down hard and it was unplayable.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: ALIxReBORN on 02:03 AM - 04/04/12
your controller deadzone could be getting off, this happened to me but my controllers left stich pressed down hard and it was unplayable.

Will update if it happens again, hopefully not.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: tomiko77 on 02:30 PM - 04/11/12
Is the config Zen made with Mist's tweak (making deadzone 5571) a MODIFICATION to the smart translator or is it a fresh config with tweaked settings. Could either or work?
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: tuffrabit on 02:31 PM - 04/11/12
Zen's config is a standard translator configuration.
Title: Re: Zen's BF3 Standard Config ***Updated with Mist's new deadzone to try***
Post by: Seawolf on 07:04 AM - 04/15/12
Tuff, I have the same mouse you have and I am having issues anytime I try and use the standard config. I am running the mouse at level 2 DPI as a base when I edit my sens settings, but the standard seems very twitchy even when I adjust the sens settings down.

I tried Zen's settings and it was unplayable for me. Way too twitchy and the deadzone was too large for me.

The smart config seems ok, but I have to run sens settings up around 200 and 180 for ADI. Is there a xim3 setup to make it feel more closely to the PC where it's fast without being twitchy and with a good 1:1 transition?

Update: I went and actually watched some of the tutorial vids and got the mouse setup using setpoint and the mouse is set to 5700DPI now. I'm trying different STs as well as Zen's setup and the one thing that is really bothering me is the short almost not noticable delay in cursor movement in game when making quick movements. I guess this is the "input lag" everyone talks about.

When making slow movements around corners it's not an issue, but swinging my weapon quickly to chase someone feels very strange.
I also tried adding some smoothness setting in there and while it makes the overall feel of the movement something like a PC I think it adds to the sensation of lag, but I can't stand twitchy controls. I'm still trying to tweak here and there, but I think I am asking too much from BF3 on PS3. I just wish my friend would get a PC so I didn't have to deal with it. lol