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Offline W11cE

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XIM APEX and SandhawC
« on: 02:55 AM - 01/05/18 »
For the Apex there will be a completely new version. Rewritten from zero and not many things are passing over. Here is a small list of things there will be (some technical terms, if you don't know what those mean, you don't need to care about those):

UI:
 - Uses WPF without any special tricks, you can go nuts with the resizing of the windows now.
 - More calm color scheme, possibly additional color schemes to restore the good old look.
 - Still possible to activate while on the background.

Connection:
 - Belkin transfer cable, but additional cables are possibly added in the future.
 - 1000Hz, estimated extra delay added is 600-1600us, depending on the sync of the devices.
 - Connection and mouse input health status.
 - Independent from XIM Manager. This means you can use the Manager at the same time with any device you want. SC will no longer freeze when you close down the console first.

Profiles:
 - Current active scripts and joystick bindings are tied to profiles.
 - Autoload linked game profile on XIM through profile hotkey.
 - Proper AHK script IPC. Scripts are now closed properly.
 - Scripts are checked automatically for the required lines to include files for the IPC.

Misc:
 - Keyboard keys can now be marked to behave differently on active state for better compatibility with other programs with hotkeys.
 - Additional activation and deactivation keys can be mapped.
 - Uses much less CPU than the previous version.
 - NOTE: A CPU with multiple logical cores is recommended / possibly required.

Some ideas I would want to implement, but I haven't checked yet if possible:
 - Automatically trigger mouse profiles.

Some things I would like to get feedback on:
 - Activation and deactivation indication. How should it be notified?


I am not sure about the name yet. I would not want to call it SandhawC 2 nor even SandhawC at all.
If you have any ideas for additional features, now would be a good time to tell me those.

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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #1 on: 09:23 AM - 01/05/18 »
W1ce you should not forget to mention that scripts are now running butter smooth, theres no more stutter or syncing needed :)

as for the name
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #2 on: 03:01 PM - 01/05/18 »
I feel like the visual “enabled” and “disabled” works.  As for audible notifications I would love the options to be able to turn that off for streaming or recording purposes.

As for a name something simple like XIM Connect. Or XIM Bridge

Edit:  also simplify some of the settings.  Instead of letting us pick a polling rate based on a number give us a radio check box and just give us a handful of options.

I think biggest hurdle will be trying to figure out why some people get jitter while other don’t  (unless that’s already resolved)
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #3 on: 09:42 AM - 01/08/18 »
I was thinking the name XIM Companion? I am super excited for a rebuild of this and love the application now!

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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #4 on: 04:15 PM - 01/08/18 »
can't wait  ;D
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #5 on: 10:41 PM - 01/09/18 »

I was wondering when I read that the new sandhawc needs a lower power multicore processor is there no way that a lite version of sandhawc on debian or simlar could be made for the Raspberry Pi 3 to plug into the xim apex.

Combined With the raspberry pi 2.5amp power supply this could be a really low power solution and save having a power hungry pc plugged in plus much more portable.

And with 4 usb 2.0 ports 1000hz polling,a micro sd to store data and macros it could be a fantastic addition to the xim apex what do you guys think?

Come to think of it you could stack 2 or 3 of them ?
If not with linux maybe a light or stripped down version of windows
just thinking out loud cause its better to ask then say nothing or ideas just stay as ideas :)
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #6 on: 05:36 PM - 01/11/18 »
I am the only one who thinks a Raspberry Pi3 with sandhawc into the xim apex would be Amazing ?

A silent mini form windyhoes pc is still a cool option though : )
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #7 on: 12:42 PM - 01/15/18 »
Thanks W11cE for updating SandawC with Apex. Quick question, will the new SandhawC be out on day one when Apex is released?   I really love SandhawC and am looking forward to the update ! Thanks again!!

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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #8 on: 06:41 PM - 01/17/18 »
You can name it the program "Predator" instead of Sandhawc.

With Xim Apex + Predator.... you become the apex predator?

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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #9 on: 01:19 PM - 01/18/18 »
I feel like the visual “enabled” and “disabled” works.  As for audible notifications I would love the options to be able to turn that off for streaming or recording purposes.
The problem with visual only is that it is not visible while SC is running on the background, that is why I would want to have more than that as an indicator. I was also thinking about using scroll lock for status indication, since that is rarely used and still exist on almost every keyboard.

Edit:  also simplify some of the settings.  Instead of letting us pick a polling rate based on a number give us a radio check box and just give us a handful of options.
There wont be ability to adjust polling rate. It is defined by XIM polling rate.

I think biggest hurdle will be trying to figure out why some people get jitter while other don’t  (unless that’s already resolved)
This is problematic, since there can be multiple reasons. Now there is an ability to record report data, so it is possible to see if mouse is jittering or the connection.

I was thinking the name XIM Companion? I am super excited for a rebuild of this and love the application now!
Thanks :)

I am the only one who thinks a Raspberry Pi3 with sandhawc into the xim apex would be Amazing ?

A silent mini form windyhoes pc is still a cool option though : )
Anyone ? no?
Yes I think you are the only one  :o. That is not a good idea for a multiple of reasons. The biggest one being linux. The mouse and keyboard capturing is completely different, lack of drivers for special case devices and I don't even code anything for linux. So, sorry this wont be happening.

Thanks W11cE for updating SandawC with Apex. Quick question, will the new SandhawC be out on day one when Apex is released?   I really love SandhawC and am looking forward to the update ! Thanks again!!
I don't know yet. There is still quite a lot of stuff I want to code in before release, but not all of those are necessary though. We will see when we are closer to the release.

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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #10 on: 01:58 PM - 01/18/18 »
You can name it the program "Predator" instead of Sandhawc.

With Xim Apex + Predator.... you become the apex predator?

If I wasn't so against this whole thing I would say this is win!
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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #11 on: 08:03 PM - 01/18/18 »

Thanks first for all the work on SandHawC my set up would be nigh impossible without it.

Hypothetical timeline to manage expectations:
So lets say Apex is released on Feb 1 would we be looking at Feb 1 for new software, Feb 15th or later?
Obviously not holding anyone to the timeline just want to gauge how fast I will grab the Apex because sans pc controlling software I would not be able to implement it just yet.


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Re: XIM APEX and SandhawC
« Reply #12 on: 03:36 AM - 01/19/18 »
cannot speak for w1ce but i can assure you hes working really hard to have the new sandhawc being done until launch

all that the version is missing right now are a few features but the core software itself works perfectly fine from my experience and is a huge upgrade to the original sandhawc
so if the demand is there i could see w1ce offering a beta version until the software is fully done, though i could also be wrong there
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