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The Anti-Aim Assist curve set for practically any FPS game. (Updated 9/22/17)  (Read 58672 times)

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Hello XIM community. Over the course of the last year "or so" I've posted setups for games like Destiny, BO3, Hardline and BF4. My driving force with all these setups has always revolved around my personal issues with controlling Aim Assist. As I've stated on multiple occasions, IMO XIM4 works GREAT with a lot of games. The only issue I ever have is when Aim Assist messes with my aim.

So what exactly is Aim Assist (referred to as Target Assist in BO3) and how does it work? Here's the best video I found with a quick search on youtube. It's a great video and I would encourage all to watch even if you believe you already understand how Aim Assist works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE12xuAG_U4

Ok, so why would I want settings to combat AA, isn't AA a GOOD thing? First off, YES AA actually is a GOOD thing and it does help you to not over shoot your target. The problem is AA is often so strong on consoles that when used with something as precise as a mouse it can feel like it's fighting against you at times. There are typically Three scenarios that cause AA to become a problem when using a mouse.

1.) Range of motion! AA is built to help a controller user stay on a target, using a range of motion of only about an inch. Compare that with a Mouse that may have a range of motion of up to 12 inches or MORE, depending on your settings (dpi, sens,curves,etc.) and you start to see a more accurate pic of why LOW sens players will fight AA ALOT more then high sens players will.

2.) Aiming at multiple targets! I'm sure EVERYONE has come across this problem at some point in time. You aim at a group of targets and your cross hair is drawn towards the wrong target. Keep in mind, this doesn't necessarily mean targets within the same distance or side by side. You could be aiming for a target just a few meters away and another target could cross your sights, either in front or behind the target you're aiming at and AA will often try to pull you towards the secondary target. You may not even see the other target, but you'll feel its AA.

3.) When you ADS just outside of the Enemies hit box! Unless your aim is dead nuts every time you ADS on a target you're going to occasionally experience an issue where it feels like your cursor is stuck in the mud as you're trailing a target. This is what has been referred to as the "AA Bubble effect." It's what happens when you're cursor speed is drastically slowed by Aim Assist that was created by the developer to make aiming possible with a controller. Think about that for a second. This slow down effect was created for thumb stick aiming, not a precision mouse. What's the difference? Simple, one word for ya "Velocity!" The amount of slow down needed to control Thumb stick aiming can often feel like your hitting a wall with a mouse. This is because you're typically not creating as much velocity with your mouse as you would be with a Stick. Why? Because you don't have to, it's a precision aiming device.

These three scenarios are why I started creating Anti-Aim Assist curves. As mentioned prior, when I say Anti-Aim Assist, I don't mean NO Aim Assist at all. I mean Aim Assist that feels helpful and controlled, not overpowering or intrusive.

High sens players will feel less Aim Assist then low sens players. That is purely because of the velocity issue I spoke of. So this thread will probably be more appealing to mid and low sens players. Although I believe the style of curve I'm going to show you will be helpful to everyone that is experiencing issue's 1,2 or 3 above.

Ok ... enough BS, sorry for the looong intro. I just want everyone to understand what this thread is about and how it could potentially be helpful. So on to the setup!

WHAT DO THESE CURVES DO AND HOW TO APPLY THEM LIKE A CHAMP!
I created this setup by first raising my in game ADS sensitivity as high as I felt I needed to make AA feel spot on to me. Then I divided my Sens by approx 1/3 to 1/2 (depending on the game) and made this curve to do the rest. Why? Because a curve makes it possible to use low velocity for micro movements and a much higher velocity for quick movements. By doing this I've found I can still combat AA to my liking without sacrificing my sniping game and long range shots. So YES, I use these curves and sensitivities for EVERY weapon in EVERY game "Listed" and with EVERY scope. When applied right, these curves will allow you to have more initial stick on target in both HIP and ADS, but also give you the acceleration needed to get on target (break that @#$% AA bubble) and track effectively.

I must say this curve set has made ALL of the FPS's listed below feel really REALLY good for me. So if you enjoy my style of game play then I think you're really going to enjoy these curves. If you're not familiar with my style of play, here's a brief run down and what you should expect from these curves.
- I play with Aim Assist [ON] ALWAYS!
- I want SOME AA but not too much, I want it to help me get on target but not mess with my aim.
- I want to get in the hit box, then track the target and get out of the hit box and to another enemy without fighting for control of my crosshairs.


IMPORTANT!
- All setups were created at 4000 DPI, use the calculator I've linked below if you are using a higher or lower DPI then I am.
- All setups were made on the latest firmware. (Any firmware should work, but you'll need to disable Steady Aim and remove any boost values added).
- All setups use the same two curves, just different sensitivities.
- As always, if you're over aiming or getting stuck outside the hitbox then lower or raise your sens until it feels right to you. I typically find myself starting out at about 3 points lower for the first hour or so. This applies to Hip and ADS. Once I'm in the zone I'll raise the sens to where they are now.
http://www.csgosetup.com/dpi-calculator/

Here you go, slightly different settings for multiple games, yet ONE set of curves. Use these curves for EVERY game below!

BATTLEFIELD 1
Follow all XIM recommendations for in game settings EXCEPT USA is [ON] with this setup.

HIP:
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ADS:
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BATTLEFIELD 4
HIP: 22
ADS: 16


IMPORTANT: (When possible) For all COD games I highly recommend that you use "quickdraw" and any perk needed to make aiming as fast as possible after running. Then add a 125ms ADS delay to your ADS config. I recommend these settings no matter what firmware you're running!

BLACK OPS 3
HIP: Sensitivity 21
ADS: Sensitivity 12.5

INFINITE WARFARE
HIP: Sensitivity 21
ADS: Sensitivity 12.5

MODERN WARFARE Remastered - I recommend ADS delay set to 365ms.
HIP: 18.5
ADS: 11.5

GHOST
HIP: 19.5
ADS: 14.5

DESTINY - Only tried PvE but should work with PvP at lower sensitivities.
HIP: 35
ADS: 17.5

DESTINY 2
HIP: 36
ADS: 21


CHEERS!!

« Last Edit: 05:12 PM - 11/30/17 by RML »
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM APEX | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G502 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA Setup [on]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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finally your topic is up, reading! :)
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I'm going to try this with hand cannons in destiny now....  Will feedback which feels best and how it compares to the curve you suggested using in your insane destiny set up thread

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What about anti-anti-aim assist?

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What about anti-anti-aim assist?

You'll have to talk to Ballsticks about that. Not my flavor.  :P
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM APEX | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G502 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA Setup [on]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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You'll have to talk to Ballsticks about that. Not my flavor.  :P

So this is more of an anti-anti-anti-aim assist kinda thing then?  :o

I'll shut-up now.

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You'll have to talk to Ballsticks about that. Not my flavor.  :P

So this is more of an anti-anti-anti-aim assist kinda thing then?  :o

I'll shut-up now.

You're happy with Vanilla, you should rejoice. I slightly envy you, I wish it was that simple.
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM APEX | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G502 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA Setup [on]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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You're happy with Vanilla, you should rejoice. I slightly envy you, I wish it was that simple.

Fark no. Once you've gone RML, you never go back!

I'll give the curves a bash when I get over my current gaming malaise.

As always, thanks for sharing :salute:

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Thank you RML GREAT CURVES.  Im using 0,85 x/y ratio on battlefield 4 too and it feels better,  are you using it too?  Can you explain this change in x/y?

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Thank you RML GREAT CURVES.  Im using 0,85 x/y ratio on battlefield 4 too and it feels better,  are you using it too?  Can you explain this change in x/y?

I can ... it's called shenanigans! Lol  :D

That's actually not the case for me. I use 1.0 Y,X ratio with ADS. If you're talking about HIP, then yes, I do prefer .85. I think it feels better because it kind of tightens up the X axis, makes it feel a little more responsive with that curve. As far as ADS goes, what happened was ... I pasted all of those curves in sub-configs. A few of those subs were for vehicles and I forgot to change that to 1.0. I grayed a few of them out, but I must have missed that one. I save all four variations of the curve in subs so I can easily copy/paste them into my ADS config for testing. That's why they're all different colors and only one was "ADS" Green.

But hey, if you're using that ratio for ADS and it's working for you then go with it! I can't say I'd recommend it but I've also never tried it.

Cheers!
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM APEX | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G502 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA Setup [on]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Is it possible to create curves with a profit from the aim assist?
In Overwatch the Aim Assist helps me after the last update.
And than i see curves for BO3 that work with the aim assist.

Is this for every game possible? Controller player get much advantage from the aim assist.
Can we have the same advantage?


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Is it possible to create curves with a profit from the aim assist?
In Overwatch the Aim Assist helps me after the last update.
And than i see curves for BO3 that work with the aim assist.

Is this for every game possible? Controller player get much advantage from the aim assist.
Can we have the same advantage?

You guys are killing me with this. There's something you really need to understand about AA. If you want MAX AA then you need a VERY aggressive curve to overcome it. Otherwise, you're going to feel like your crosshairs are stuck in the mud when you ADS on a target. Maxing out AA isn't going to just auto aim for you. No offense but people looking for an Aim bot mechanic is a bit annoying to me. My goal has always been to help this device aim more like a mouse on PC. Something that improves your aim, not aim for you! You know what ... Fine!

You guys want max AA, here's how!

#1 - Download this firmware, http://cloud.xim4.com/Beta/XIM4Flash-20160601-STEADYAIM0.exe (If you're on 2014 Firmware then this will be a breaking change and will erase all of your settings. But hey, if you really want MAX AA then it should be worth it, right?)
#2 - Activate Steady Aim by checking the box.
#3 - Set Boost to 90!
#4 - Apply this Curve and run it at a very LOW sens. (Or don't apply this curve and feel your cursor get stuck in the mud).
#5 - Leave feedback about this firmware in this thread or risk forever losing it! http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=46808.0

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Don't pay any attention what game this was created for, it doesn't matter, the concept is the same.

You're welcome! 

Sry ... it's early, haven't had my coffee yet.   :-*
« Last Edit: 06:41 AM - 09/18/16 by RML »
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM APEX | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G502 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA Setup [on]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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How does this compare in Destiny to say playing with st v1?
I swapped back to v1 after having no luck playing with v2.

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I thought I wanted max Aim Assist, I tried dr ballistics max aim assist set up then realized that RML's anti aim assist was actually what I was looking for.

I used the steady aim test drop 1 firmware and thought it was very good, I then used test drop 2 and thought it was better, then I turned off steady aim and thought that was even better..... now I don't even know what day of the week it is.


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I thought I wanted max Aim Assist, I tried dr ballistics max aim assist set up then realized that RML's anti aim assist was actually what I was looking for.

I used the steady aim test drop 1 firmware and thought it was very good, I then used test drop 2 and thought it was better, then I turned off steady aim and thought that was even better..... now I don't even know what day of the week it is.

Aim at the head. Pull the trigger. Works for me.