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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #45 on: 02:31 PM - 12/01/15 »
RML this new ADS curve you have is it updated on here? If not can you just share that ADS curve I would like to give it a try.

As for Angle Snapping I'm somebody who doesn't use it. However I'm going to be testing it today.

My current setup with your original Hip/Ads curves is

G502 @ 4000 Dpi (Currently testing between 500hz and 1000hz)
On a G440 Hard Pad
Hip 34.50
Ads 8.00
*With the hard pad I really bring my Ads Sensitivity down. I go by "Feels" more than numbers.

On a Puretrak Talent Cloth pad
Hip 38.50
Ads 13.50

*Turning on Angle Snapping for testing"

I can't paste the curve right now. However, if you want to try it out just go all the way to the right of the ballistic scale. Then come back to the left until you get to the first setting that is not at 100. I believe it's 96.?. Raise that up to 100 and there you go, done!

Also, if you're still feeling "The Bubble", keep tweaking your Sens up a little at a time till it feels better.

For a little insight, here's how I typically create a curve to combat Aim Assist.

- Start with a Vanilla ST and add ADS sensitivity until it almost completely overrides Aim Assist. This is usually some pretty crazy setting. For this particular game that number was 45 @ 4000 DPI,  if I remember right.

- Create a second Full Configuration and set my ADS sens to something that I'm comfortable with.

- Compare the speed of my Vanilla ST's ADS to that of my second config (what I'm comfortable with). This gives me a better understanding of just how aggressive the curve needs to be to overcome Aim Assist and how much acceleration I'm going to need to get there. It gives me an idea of a starting point.

- Move up the ADS ballistic scale to about the 35-40 range and raise this portion of the scale until the Bubble effect is barely noticeable.

- Adjust the back side of the curve so that I don't over or under compensate the target, "Tracks" properly.

- Done!

Now the real chore is finding the right setup (happy medium) to track at various ranges. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE!

Hope that helps.
« Last Edit: 02:39 PM - 12/01/15 by RML »
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Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #46 on: 03:09 PM - 12/01/15 »
Yeah your are correct it was 96. I changed it to 100 and gonna give it a go with angle snapping and a higher Ads Sensitivity.
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RML: Curve is really growing on me. Good work 😀

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #48 on: 05:32 PM - 12/01/15 »
Here are my curves with 4.00.2014.1114
Essentially very much the same as others posted for Sticky aim, just tweaked a bit.

HIP
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000E1D2B3A49525B656E77808A939CA6AFB8C2C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

ADS
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:01172D435960686F767E858C949BA3AAB1B9C0C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

Make sure angle snapping is on.
Boost to taste

For sensitivity, I use the 2.4 ratio
So Hip is 2.4 times the ADS sensitivity.
If your sensitivity gets too high, it can feel really twitchy, and hard to hold long distance shots for head glitchers.

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #49 on: 07:08 PM - 12/01/15 »
Here are my curves with 4.00.2014.1114
Essentially very much the same as others posted for Sticky aim, just tweaked a bit.

HIP
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000E1D2B3A49525B656E77808A939CA6AFB8C2C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

ADS
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:01172D435960686F767E858C949BA3AAB1B9C0C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

Make sure angle snapping is on.
Boost to taste

For sensitivity, I use the 2.4 ratio
So Hip is 2.4 times the ADS sensitivity.
If your sensitivity gets too high, it can feel really twitchy, and hard to hold long distance shots for head glitchers.

Your still on ST1 you shouldn't have really any issues with sticky aim.
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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #50 on: 07:54 PM - 12/01/15 »
Except that I have major issues with sticky aim...................

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #51 on: 08:38 PM - 12/01/15 »
If you think ST1 is bad with Sticky Aim don't ever upgrade to ST2. You will be like "F This" going back to ST1.
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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #52 on: 11:13 PM - 12/01/15 »
I think this is what I need.. do you guys know what I have to change to be able to control streaks
like the talon? they turn so slow for me..
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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #53 on: 12:34 AM - 12/02/15 »
Could the fact that when Obv was creating the xim4, he was using a 5700 dpi mouse be anything to do with so many feel that so I'd around 4000-5700 tend to be smoother?

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #54 on: 10:08 AM - 12/02/15 »
I do hate the fact I have a G502 that does 12k dpi and the Xim4 is supposed to work it's best with very high dpi and I'm here using 4k dpi.

However I'm all about the end results in game.  I've given up on using "What" I should be logically using and actually using what works.

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #55 on: 10:59 AM - 12/02/15 »
My Angle Snapping Testing. (More testing needed but read on)

For the record I've tried Angle snapping once or twice before on my G502 and it just never felt right to me.

So yesterday I ran with the angle snapping enabled. I will agree I felt it totally did away with any remaining AA force field.  I also turned up my ADS sensitivity a bit more and the AS allowed me to get right on my targets.

With that said there were some weird moments where I felt like I was fighting the AS a little bit. Remember I'm not use to it so I notice it.  A few hours of gaming wasn't enough to break down and build muscle memory.

In game while my movement and shot felt amazing 4000 Dpi, 500hz polling, Angle Snapping on, Hip 34.50 Ads 12.50 on a Hard pad my end game results where a bit off.  Now Monday night and most of Tuesday while I was getting low ping lobbies I was feeling some server lag and 50+ms ping players where owning me. 

So since I started using the RML curve last week no lie I average about a 4 kd per game. With my lowest kd around say a 3 and as high has a 40+.  Most all this with a smg.   I'm a Rusher I like to Run n Gun. Before RML Curve I was stuck between 2.74 and a 2.77KD. I was a 3rd prestige at the time so Global KD doesn't change much at this point game by game. 

With the RML curve and now a 4th prestige level 30 my kd is 2.92 Global and always going up.  Sure if I posted up with an AR I would have a 3.5+ kd but that is boring. For one game here and there that's fine or a certain map but I like out gunning people up close and personal it's more rewarding.

Now for my results with Angle Snapping I was pretty much getting between a 2 and a 2.5 kd per game. A big game here and there but I couldn't tell if it was shoot first die first or something else cause my shot felt more on with AS than without but the results where not as good. (Checking lobby leaderboard I should have had no problem with most of these players.)

Last night about the last hour of my gaming I decided to turn off AS. After that I went right back to averaging 4kd per game the rest of the night.

So yeah I'm mind blown right now. It was either one of two things or both together. 

1. I hit a bad batch of connections. Because Monday night before testing AS at the end of the night connections tanked. Even with the Duma on 14ms ping lobbies.  Something was funky cause I almost always get on the NY server but yesterday I was getting a lot of P2P hosting.

2. I was pressing to hard trying to evaluate if AS was helping or not and my focus was a bit off.


I will give it another go today with AS. Need a bigger sample size I think than that one day.

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #56 on: 12:29 PM - 12/02/15 »
My Angle Snapping Testing. (More testing needed but read on)

For the record I've tried Angle snapping once or twice before on my G502 and it just never felt right to me.

So yesterday I ran with the angle snapping enabled. I will agree I felt it totally did away with any remaining AA force field.  I also turned up my ADS sensitivity a bit more and the AS allowed me to get right on my targets.

With that said there were some weird moments where I felt like I was fighting the AS a little bit. Remember I'm not use to it so I notice it.  A few hours of gaming wasn't enough to break down and build muscle memory.

In game while my movement and shot felt amazing 4000 Dpi, 500hz polling, Angle Snapping on, Hip 34.50 Ads 12.50 on a Hard pad my end game results where a bit off.  Now Monday night and most of Tuesday while I was getting low ping lobbies I was feeling some server lag and 50+ms ping players where owning me. 

So since I started using the RML curve last week no lie I average about a 4 kd per game. With my lowest kd around say a 3 and as high has a 40+.  Most all this with a smg.   I'm a Rusher I like to Run n Gun. Before RML Curve I was stuck between 2.74 and a 2.77KD. I was a 3rd prestige at the time so Global KD doesn't change much at this point game by game. 

With the RML curve and now a 4th prestige level 30 my kd is 2.92 Global and always going up.  Sure if I posted up with an AR I would have a 3.5+ kd but that is boring. For one game here and there that's fine or a certain map but I like out gunning people up close and personal it's more rewarding.

Now for my results with Angle Snapping I was pretty much getting between a 2 and a 2.5 kd per game. A big game here and there but I couldn't tell if it was shoot first die first or something else cause my shot felt more on with AS than without but the results where not as good. (Checking lobby leaderboard I should have had no problem with most of these players.)

Last night about the last hour of my gaming I decided to turn off AS. After that I went right back to averaging 4kd per game the rest of the night.

So yeah I'm mind blown right now. It was either one of two things or both together. 

1. I hit a bad batch of connections. Because Monday night before testing AS at the end of the night connections tanked. Even with the Duma on 14ms ping lobbies.  Something was funky cause I almost always get on the NY server but yesterday I was getting a lot of P2P hosting.

2. I was pressing to hard trying to evaluate if AS was helping or not and my focus was a bit off.


I will give it another go today with AS. Need a bigger sample size I think than that one day.

Can you post your settings? Where can I find the RML curve? I like my setup now alongside dales curve but its not ideal and I hit the turn speed cap frequently...I'm on the 1120 RC

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #57 on: 01:46 PM - 12/02/15 »
Can you post your settings? Where can I find the RML curve? I like my setup now alongside dales curve but its not ideal and I hit the turn speed cap frequently...I'm on the 1120 RC

RML's setup is in the original post on page 1.  If you just want the curves just load his setup into a new BO3 config and copy the Hip/Ads plus his Y/X settings to match each.

I already have my own button key bindings.

As for my setup

G502 4k Dpi 500hz
Angle Snapping off
I use Pad tuning

With G440 Hard pad
Hip 34.50
Ads 9.50
**With angle snapping on my Ads was 12.50**

With Puretrak Talent Cloth pad
Hip 38.50
Ads 13.50
**With angle snapping on I didn't change my Ads sensitivity**

Delay of 120ms with Quickdraw

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #58 on: 02:29 PM - 12/02/15 »
@ PUBzZz, Thanks for taking the time to test out AS and your feedback. I also appreciate your support of this thread.

I may try out NO AS later on, give it a fair shake, maybe a couple of days and see how it goes. I've used it since day one so I'm sure it will take awhile to adapt.

Cheers Mate!
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Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 11/25/15)
« Reply #59 on: 03:27 PM - 12/02/15 »
Your destiny curve is like pure gold !
Really want to try this one out but does it work with 20150816 ?