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Black Ops 3 "Anti-sticky Aim" Setup. (Updated 09/16/16)  (Read 170271 times)

Offline RML

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What's up everyone?

I want to start this off by making a few statements to clarify this setup (if the title didn't do it for ya).

- IMO XIM4 works FABULOUS with COD games and there's really only ONE reason to ever alter the ST and that's Aim Assist!
- If you're a high sensitivity player you may not even need a setup like this. The higher sensitivity you play with, the less Aim assist will affect you. This is true because you simply over power Aim assist ALOT easier then a medium or low sens player can.
- Just to give you a sense of what a High sens player looks like to me, I'll break it down. Let's say you're playing BO3 at 8,000 DPI. I would consider anything over 30 Hip, 15 ADS as High. 20 Hip, 10 ADS as Medium and 15 Hip, 5 ADS as Low.
- This Setup is for Low to Medium Sens players, Like me!  ;)
- If you're a high sens player and still feel like you need some help with combating Aim Assist. Then take this setup and tweak the curves so that they are not so prevalent (lower the peak).
- This setup will take some getting used to but it will help you track targets and it will combat aim assist, so that you don't feel your aim being pulled around as much.
- The best thing about the ADS curve is that it even seems to work really well at close encounters. This is something I've struggled with ALOT in the past. My old curve worked good at medium to long range but sucked when a target got in your face. I think this curve is the best happy medium I've ever used to date to combat ALL aim assist problems.

Here are my suggestions for trying out this setup or any new setup, for that matter.

- When trying out a NEW setup you should always have something to measure it against. I suggest that this be the Vanilla ST (No curves, tweaks, etc.), unless you already have a preferred setup of your own.


- Make TWO BO3 Configs, one with your measurable setup and one with my settings. 
- Tweak your sensitivities until your turn speed feels consistent between the two setups.
- Start off with your measurable setup and play for at least a few matches. I suggest you DONOT stay in the same lobby. Play maybe 3-4 games all from different lobbies.
- Switch to the trial setup and give it the same trial as your measurable setup.
- Don't base your results off pure stats alone. You should really find your preferred setup based on movement and shot accuracy "FEEL." The stats will come! When you have a setup that feels comfortable, you have a setup that builds confidence. Confidence creates dominance!
- With this particular setup, make sure you also give HIP fire a trial with both setups as well  ;) 
- Good luck with finding the best setup for you!  :)


I'm running 4000 DPI, 500 polling rate, 22 HIP, 5.5 ADS.

So here you go!

HIP:
- HIP Sensitivity at 4,000 DPI (Yes, I recently decided to cut my DPI in half. Why? Because IMO STv2 feels better at 4000 DPI, simple as that).
- Steady Aim [OFF]
- Hip ballistic curve (This curve helps you keep a lower sens for accurate Hip fire and still makes it possible to 360 if needed. The slow decline also helps maintain control of your quick turns).
- Hip X,Y ratio variation (again to help with Hip fire accuracy).
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANQAxADEAMgAwAA8fLj5OWmNrc3uCipKaoamxuMDI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<



IMO this is the best Anti Aim Assist curve I've ever used with BO3. This curve has literally restored my faith in the Vesper which previously was the worst gun I used when it came to AA. This curve can be used with SMG's and AR's. I haven't tried it with Snipers, but if the Sniper has AA it should help but may be too aggressive for that style of play.

This ADS curve looks "Crazy" aggressive. But is mostly linear with a burst of acceleration to break the AA bubble and you won't believe how well it works "Combating AA" once your sens is dialed in. I've also fine Tuned my Hip curve as well  :)

ADS:
- ADS delay setting for Assault rifles with quick aim attachment (140 ms)
- ADS Sens
- ADS Anti-Aim Assist ballistic curve
- ADS Steady Aim [OFF]
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AFBZYmt1foeQmaOstb7IyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<




PLEASE NOTE: All codes are for the latest "Released" Firmware and Manager. DONOT copy/paste these codes into older firmware drops.


Please visit this thread for different variations of this curve that may work better for you - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=49063.0



CHEERS!!  :)

« Last Edit: 08:34 AM - 09/19/16 by RML »
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Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #1 on: 12:13 AM - 11/24/15 »
I'll give a try on the weekend. Atm I'm running with 3600DPI hip 23/ads 12, so we already run pretty close setups.
Just a quick question, why do people use curves for hip? At least I'm using curves only for ADS and can't understand what is the real point of using with HIP also.

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #2 on: 12:23 AM - 11/24/15 »
Just a quick question, why do people use curves for hip? At least I'm using curves only for ADS and can't understand what is the real point of using with HIP also.




- Hip ballistic curve (This curve helps you keep a lower sens for accurate Hip fire and still makes it possible to 360 if needed. The slow decline also helps maintain control of your quick turns).




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XB1 | C:M$ | XIM4 | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G402 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA setup [ON]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #3 on: 09:23 AM - 11/24/15 »
Cool that you're sharing.  I don't use curves, but many do, so it's great to see people helping out.

One question though.  You created your curve with Steady Aim on.  Steady Aim is basically a curve.  Have you tried creating a curve to combat AA with Steady Aim off?  Maybe you might have even better results or maybe nothing changes, but since your technically using a curve on top of a curve, I figured I'd throw it out there.

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #4 on: 01:32 PM - 11/24/15 »
Cool that you're sharing.  I don't use curves, but many do, so it's great to see people helping out.

One question though.  You created your curve with Steady Aim on.  Steady Aim is basically a curve.  Have you tried creating a curve to combat AA with Steady Aim off?  Maybe you might have even better results or maybe nothing changes, but since your technically using a curve on top of a curve, I figured I'd throw it out there.

Yeah, I'll have to mess around with that sceanrio later too. I didn't need a curve after enabling steady aim and adding some boost, where as without steady aim enabled I needed a curve to make AA feel better.

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #5 on: 03:22 PM - 11/24/15 »
Lol .. TBH, I can't hardly feel the difference between Steady aim or no steady aim. I've gone back and forth with it and it acts like the connection plays more into it then anything.

I finally just decided to leave it. Where this setup really helps is with SMG's. Take this setup, adjust your sens so that it feels equally as fast as whatever you're running with. Then tell me it doesn't help that dreaded magnet effect.

Now, if you like the magnet effect then this setup isn't for you.
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM4 | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G402 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA setup [ON]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #6 on: 03:36 PM - 11/24/15 »
Can you post a picture of the curves plz


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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #7 on: 03:40 PM - 11/24/15 »
Oddly enuff since the 1st week of release of this game i haven't noticed aim assist as much.

Not sure if ive just got use to it or if they reduced it in a hotfix.

There is a chance that im now familiar with the game and dont play as slow anymore tho but it was horrid in the 1st week

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #8 on: 10:19 PM - 11/24/15 »

- Just to give you a sense of what a High sens player looks like to me, I'll break it down. Let's say you're playing BO3 at 8,000 DPI. I would consider anything over 30 Hip, 15 ADS as High. 20 Hip, 10 ADS as Medium and 15 Hip, 5 ADS as Low.


NOTE: This setup code only works with 20150816 Manager.



RML 2 questions for you.

1. When you talk about High Sen players and you say a base of 30 Hip and 15 Ads at 8k dpi are you saying that's with using a Vanilla ST no curve?    Because for me on a Vanilla ST with no curve my Hip is a 32.50 and Ads  of 15.75 at 8k dpi.  But when I use some crazy curve my Hip could be like 13.50 and Ads 7.75 at 8k dpi.  So what would you consider me?

2. code only works with 20150816 Manager does that mean I have to downgrade firmware/manager if I'm on the latest 1120 that just came out?

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #9 on: 08:21 AM - 11/25/15 »

- Just to give you a sense of what a High sens player looks like to me, I'll break it down. Let's say you're playing BO3 at 8,000 DPI. I would consider anything over 30 Hip, 15 ADS as High. 20 Hip, 10 ADS as Medium and 15 Hip, 5 ADS as Low.


NOTE: This setup code only works with 20150816 Manager.



RML 2 questions for you.

1. When you talk about High Sen players and you say a base of 30 Hip and 15 Ads at 8k dpi are you saying that's with using a Vanilla ST no curve?    Because for me on a Vanilla ST with no curve my Hip is a 32.50 and Ads  of 15.75 at 8k dpi.  But when I use some crazy curve my Hip could be like 13.50 and Ads 7.75 at 8k dpi.  So what would you consider me?

2. code only works with 20150816 Manager does that mean I have to downgrade firmware/manager if I'm on the latest 1120 that just came out?

Thanks

1. Yes, I was talking about just using the vanilla ST. For example, with the curves I'm using 22 HIP, 9 ADS. Without the curves I'm at 36 Hip, 15 ADS @ 4000 DPI.

2. The 1120 Firmware is fine, that's what I'm running as well.

Based on your settings, I would consider you a high sens player. However, some of that depends on your mouse and pad surface. In my experience soft pads need higher settings then hard pads. This can vary from surface to surface and mouse to mouse.

Here's a couple of example's of what I'm talking about here.

- Using the G502, I went from the Steel Series soft pad to the Steel series hard pad and had to lower my sens by about 7.
- Going from the G700 to the G502 I had to Raise my sens by 6 to feel the same.

You can see that's a pretty big difference there, just with peripherals. That's why I said it's best for you to set it up to your preference.

I always suggest to make a new config copy/paste my setup and then compare it to your old. Match your sens so that they feel pretty much Identical. Then use them in game and compare them. That's really the only way to determine if the curves are right for you.
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM4 | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G402 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA setup [ON]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #10 on: 10:16 AM - 11/25/15 »
I totally understand what your saying about Mouse and Pad surface make a difference.  I have a Puretrak talent (Cloth) and a G440 Hard pad to go with my G502.

I've been testing that dude Havoxxx curve which is very progressive and requires a pretty low Sensitivity. 
I'm using 8k dpi and the difference number wise between the pad is...

Talent (Cloth) Hip 13.75  Ads 8.25
G440 (Hard) Hip 11.50  Ads 4.95

I have the G502 tuned for those pads when I use them.   What I like about the hard pad is how snappy it is.  With the cloth I like how smooth it is. 

I'm currently on ST1 because of I just don't like how ST2 deals with the Aim Assist or as it's now called in BO3 "Target Assist".  This is why your new setup has me thinking maybe this is the answer and I can go back to ST2.  Everytime a new Firmware comes out I upgrade and test it but as soon as I start hitting that force field bubble around the enemy I end up back on ST1.

I love everything about ST2 except that @#$% Aim Assist issue. It's just a killer at times.

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #11 on: 02:52 PM - 11/25/15 »
OK so I decided to upgrade back to ST2 to give this curve a shot....... Oh man am I glad I did.  Just played for about 2 and half hours.  My Aim Assist issue with ST2 is gone. At this point if anything felt funky it was totally connection based shooting at much higher ping players not being where they actually appearing. 

I was using a mix of AR's some games and SMG's the others. It felt great with both. The hip fire on this curve is amazing how under control it is. 

I used your "Code" but basically I just took the Hip and Ads curves from it along with the Y/X info for each. Left steady aim on both also.  Just didn't use your buttons and I'm using 120ms delay with quickdraw.

I also chose to go with 8k dpi
Hip 19.25
Ads 6.75

I'm going to setup a 4k dpi on my G502 later and give 4k a try for the hell of it.


RML I can't thank you enough man for sharing this.  I can finally stay on ST2!


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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #12 on: 03:34 PM - 11/25/15 »
I'm glad it worked out for you PUBzZz. Funny thing is, as much as I like the ADS curve, I'm really proud of that little HIP curve and Y,X ratio combo. I thought it was just me though, thanks for confirming. I tear it up with SMG's and shotguns at close range!

On a side note, I'll have to update the code later. I just noticed there's a NEW manager out.
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM4 | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G402 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA setup [ON]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #13 on: 03:40 PM - 11/25/15 »
Can anyone post a screenshot of this curve? Just want to make sure it looks correct on my XIM :)

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Re: Black Ops 3 (Anti-sticky Aim) Setup.
« Reply #14 on: 04:10 PM - 11/25/15 »
Can anyone post a screenshot of this curve? Just want to make sure it looks correct on my XIM :)

I'm currently at work, I'll try to get around to it soon.
XB1 | C:M$ | XIM4 | Latest | BenQ 24" Monitor | Pad: Steel Series 9HD | Sony Nav | A: Sennheiser 650's/Mod mic/Sound Blaster X7 | M: G402 | D: 4000 | P: 1000 | AAA setup [ON]

Advanced Settings Info - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=41264.0
Anti Aim Assist curve set for ANY FPS Game - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=49063.0
Destiny Advanced Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=39989.0
Battlefield 1 Setup - http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=50289.0