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RC Testers: Need your help
« on: 11:42 PM - 11/22/13 »
As you know, we are working hard on XIM4 and the open XIM4 beta for Edge users. We are still early on getting PS4 to work, however, we've discovered something that we wanted to get the community involved in early.

As far as we can tell so far, there is no wired mode for PS4 Dualshock 4 controllers.

Did you know that you could connect your DS4 wirelessly to your PS4 and then plug it wired to a PC (where it'll show up as a joystick) at the same time? Then, if you press buttons or move the sticks, it'll show up on *both* your PS4 and PC! PS4 appears to be always use BT communication over wired.

Obviously, we need wired mode. If anyone comes across any information online about this, please let us know.
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #1 on: 11:54 PM - 11/22/13 »
This is not good news. :(

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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #2 on: 11:57 PM - 11/22/13 »
Someone in chat brought up 3rd parties. There has to be a 3rd party controller coming that will be wired only.
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #3 on: 12:09 AM - 11/23/13 »
May take awhile unfortunately.
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #4 on: 12:13 AM - 11/23/13 »
That would mean that everybody would have to buy a 3rd party PS4 controller.


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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #5 on: 12:55 AM - 11/23/13 »



I've seen people use a DS4 controller on a 360 using this:   thing http://www.cronusdevice.com/

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169660-ps4-dualshock-4-controller-is-compatible-with-the-xbox-360-xbox-one-next

Probably a long shot  but would this usb device be of any help ?

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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #6 on: 01:02 AM - 11/23/13 »
I brought up that too, ds4 working on ps3/360. It doesn't matter because the PS4 only sees it over bluetooth. :( Unless they find a way to support it wirelessly without spoofing we might have to wait for 3rd party controllers.


That would mean that everybody would have to buy a 3rd party PS4 controller.

Let's hope that when they start supporting 3rd party controllers they change the radio behavior for all controllers to shut down when plugged in, not just 3rd party.
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #7 on: 01:05 AM - 11/23/13 »
Obsiv why do you need a wired mode?
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #8 on: 01:14 AM - 11/23/13 »
What about the sony stick doesn’t it generate the desired wired mode? But I am sure you tested this already.
This news pretty much hit me like a shockwave.
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #9 on: 01:16 AM - 11/23/13 »
Couldn't you authenticate by pairing the DS4 with the Bluetooth adapter as a temporary solution?

DS4 > BT Adapter > EDGE
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« Reply #10 on: 01:19 AM - 11/23/13 »
What's strange to me is I was under the impression that wireless isn't possible/undesired at tournaments/trade-shows, etc.

The controller talks to the PS4 *both* wired and wirelessly when plugged in. It's just that the console is choosing to ignore the wired com completely. XIM works fine with a DS4 attached if it's connected to a PC instead of a PS4.

Yes, we can look at wireless BT com instead, however, the amount of work involved is unknown and it's also not known if this could work. We'd like to avoid it if possible, of course.
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« Reply #11 on: 01:22 AM - 11/23/13 »
What if you stop the controllers wireless activity? or shield it or have a repeater cable that gets it out of range? Its weird but maybe worth a test what happens.It might use the wired mode. Or tamper with the DS4 so it looses the wireless capability.
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« Reply #12 on: 01:38 AM - 11/23/13 »
We thought of that. We don't have the right materials we'd need to do that experiment. A DS4 in a stainless steel container still has at least a 12m range when we tried that. As soon as it was out of range, it disconnected.
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« Reply #13 on: 01:53 AM - 11/23/13 »
We thought of that. We don't have the right materials we'd need to do that experiment. A DS4 in a stainless steel container still has at least a 12m range when we tried that. As soon as it was out of range, it disconnected.


I have a leded room here (xray) but I will get the PS3 earliest on Wednesday or friday. It wont penetrate leded brick wall.

what about going over the PC and mimicking a wired DS4 controller until a wired one comes out?
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Re: RC Testers: Need your help
« Reply #14 on: 01:57 AM - 11/23/13 »
I hope you guys can figure something out. Fingers crossed.
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